Sponsor a migrant. That's the scheme that's needed. A minimum tax code of 40K a year [break even]. If you don't pay it you are out. But if you find a sponsor to make up the short fall, what's the problem? I can see that being used for family members mostly. There's no way in hell that Lineker or Starmer would put their millions on the line. Now as a policy, its a good idea. It shows that dispite the claims of the left about migration, they just want others to fund it.
@@spencerburrows3525 Yes, he was the one who, in 2021, opined that London was a wonderful and safe place to live. Last year, he got mugged in London and had his mobile phone stolen. Cue the salty tears. At least, he wasn’t physically injured.
@@johnnieboy5381 Hi Johnnieboy , i myself was very keen to take in a Ukrainian refugee , Helga 23 years of age Blonde 38, 24, 36, but the wife put her foot down 😂
Mr Starmer ! Sorry ! Lord Starmer has a special arrangement so that his CPS pension, the job he retired from after five years ( aged 51) is Tax Free !.
Your numbers are wrong. Where's the pension debts? Borrowing to GDP? ie. The money owed to bankers. That's all you are worried about. What about the money owed to peasants?
@@James-gf9jl So here's a question. That Pension debt. Why not send every taxpayer an annual statement with their share of the debts? What would most tax payer's reaction be to a £600,000 bill dropping on the door step?
I used to work in Stratford, London. As I walked through the shopping centre (not Westfield, Stratford Centre) on my way home from work I noted the large number of foreign looking, old people, who came here via chain migration and have obviously never contributed a penny in Income Tax or National Insurance. Free pension, free healthcare etc. etc. It's no wonder there is 'isn't any money left'.......
It has nothing to do with the employment requirements of Britain but everything to do with forcing through the kalergi plan regardless of anything else....
Include pensions and it will exceed your 3 times number. Add in dependents, the ratio is one working, one not, and you are talking 6 times the OBR number
@adenwellsmith6908 Absolutely. The fact that the OBR is even admitting that they are a net fiscal cost to the exchequer in the first place pretty much says it all.
@@MelissasArt There's an art in cooking the books on this. You can go about it in two ways. First is to exclude costs. Second is to inflate revenues. Or if you want the other answer invert. It's pretty hard to inflate the revenues. They have tried. So its the costs that they fiddle. 1. Exclude common goods. That's the EU's prefered aproach. Migrant don't pay for police, defence, democracy. All the costs lumped on natives which make them look bad 2. Exlude dependents. Doubles the costs. 3. Exclude pensions. Future costs. 4. Exclude criminal costs. When you know the fiddles its easy to spot them
@adenwellsmith6908 Unbelievable, isn't it? I really appreciate your response explaining all this. 🙂 I always thought about dependents. A massive grey area if there ever was one. I used to live in London. I remember reading how just over half of all the social housing in the city is headed by someone who wasn't even born in the UK. And that was back in the early 2010s. I left in 2012. Had enough.
Home grown labourers cost less as: We don't need to compensate for their skills gap. We can better sort out any skills gaps with more logistical ease in our own country then taking others. We can also support our own people and better allocate financial resources.
Also money paid to Brits stays in the country, circulating and generating tax revenue over and over again. A lot of money that’s paid to immigrants gets sent back to their country where it’s lost for good, no more revenue collected.
They need a house, 3 meals daily, gas, electric everything And too many come and go straight on benefits. I hate that these people have to do studies to realize the obvious
Unfortunately no matter how frustrating this is it will be lost with those pushing a certain social ideology on everyone else... after all facts don't matter when an agenda does to them!!!
Now where are all those people that have been saying that these migrants don't cost us anything? You've had enough to say in the past, so we are all waiting......
Correct. Now that's easy to implement. Assume no deficit. Mr Average is then break even. He generates on, average, enough to pay the average state spend. So change the tax code for migrants to that level at a minimum. 38,500 a year. Not paying your tax is an offence So if they paid £1000 in income tax they need to pay another £13,000 to stay. That can all be dealt with using the single justice system. Signed off on mass. With taxed at source it also means that we are using an existing system to get the money. Cheap and cheerful. The other change, no welfare bar the contributory ones. If you've paid for it you shoudl get it. If you haven't you shouldn't get it.
had a lefty on x saying that, on average wages these people bring money into the economy, okay I asked how many migrants are working average or well paid jobs or are they majority low paid workers? he just told me I was stupid and did not know what I was talking about, when asked what jobs they were doing is it nearly all low paid so costing us money he said 'who cares' when I stated that millions had arrived costing 3750 pounds per person and multiply that by 3 million for the last 2 years he just told me to f**k off and blocked me. once again their belief and our facts can not survive side by side, I think we are creeping ever nearer to civil wars if we are honest with ourselves
Are you trying to say importing low skilled,low paid immigrants coming here in tens of thousands year upon year isn't benefitting us?! Not having that😂
But, but, but - they keep telling me that the NHS would collapse without them, and that we need more highly trained brain surgeons and rocket scientists.
That number doesn't add up. It's ignoring their dependents for starters. Even for a min wage migrant. 1K a year in income tax. Most of their spending is food and rent, VAT free. So not much tax paid. Average state spend, 14K a year. That's a 13K a year loss if you ignore redistribution and welfare costs. 13K * 45 = 585,000 Pension debts on top.
@@anonymouscommenter111 The houses our people no longer appear to have a right to. It is happening in plain sight and has been for a very long time from what I have seen.
That figure revealed is about a quarter of what they say , one year in a migrant hotel room only is £35K no food no phone , no translation fees no lawyer fees with every service they are offered in 3 years is close to £240K with everything Europe wide over 200,000 people are employed facilitating the migrants , serco have the largest contract in UK for security and transporting services translation fees and lawyer fees are huge they wont cost these figures in
The thing is there was this amount of money available but still decided to punish our grand parents .... Not forgetting what we gave to Ukraine ,,,, Not British ... Should bring back what it used to mean :) ..
Doesn't the same apply to low paid unskilled Brits? We have to pay for their welfare and education for 16 years while they contribute nothing. Then minimum wage which probably means benefits. Then the State Pension.
Throw some simple maths at that figure and the long term effects are even more worrying. If we take a low estimate of 1 million migrants who fit into this category, then the total cost would be a minimum of 150 Billion if they only live to pension age. If they live to 80 then it's 500 billion. The real figures are likely much more when you consider how many migrants there are, legal and illegal.
All of this, and each could cost 0.15-0.30 cents... Even less if we just went full German... Hell, we could actually made some use of them if we had some good leaders, imagine all the free heating and other free-range goodies...
Whilst this fact is obvious and we should close the borders and deport to protect our country and culture, it is worrying how much people's lives and therefore 'worth' to the state are being quantified. We are people with minds, bodies, and souls and are intrinsically worth more than the figures on some banker or civil servant's spreadsheets.
Do we need more people to work? our unemployment rate is 4.2% plus a million or more who only work part time therefore are under employed. We are told A.I ( artificial intelligence) will strip jobs away from every major economy. Then why do we need immigrants the job prospects are bleak for the indigenous population.
