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The Odalia Blight Roast! (The Owl House Video Essay) 

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Alador Blight did nothing wrong!
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@infinity_phantomile
@infinity_phantomile Год назад
The entire fandom towards Alador: "Perhaps I've treated you too harshly"
@jazminechevarria7182
@jazminechevarria7182 Год назад
They did have they're suspects.
@royalpain9281
@royalpain9281 Год назад
I never really had any bad thoughts on Alador I always thought he was misunderstood from the beginning.
@chichiro8625
@chichiro8625 Год назад
My lil sister was like "he liked butterflys, he cant be bad I LOVE HIM"
@derrickdaniels3955
@derrickdaniels3955 Год назад
Your sister is a gem
@tr4nsg0th1ca
@tr4nsg0th1ca Год назад
I never really thought of Alador as a bad person for one reason: his expression & body language. Take a second look at how he acts, the look on his face, his tone of voice, etc.... it all points to an attitude of "I'm so sick of this bitch, but I don't want to deal with the shitstorm she'll cause if I speak out, so I'm keeping my head down." I was in a relationship with an abusive partner once, and I've experienced what he's gone through, so i feel more than a little empathetic for him. It's better to play your role as a good little peon than to cause trouble, because it isn't worth the drama that will come if you try to go against what "they" want. Thing is, while it keeps you from getting hurt, it ultimately leaves you feeling dead inside. You know you're enabling an abuser, but you're sick of being put down (or worse) so you tolerate it anyway. (I now realize that I was lucky to break the cycle, and I'm proud Alador was able to as well) I'm also starting to realize the sheer talent of the creators here for creating a realistic acting long-term spouse of an abuser.
@raven3067
@raven3067 Год назад
People are so quick to call Camilla a bad mom when they literally show you all the examples of a bad mom through Odalia.
@robby7499
@robby7499 Год назад
Yeah. The difference is that Camilla never dissuaded Luz from her interests. She actually does love her daughter’s creativity. But she also wanted her to make friends and to not put herself or anyone else in mortal danger.
@firemiracle
@firemiracle Год назад
Yes! Thank you!! Sure camila may at first didn't understood luz, but she was still a very caring mom who just wanted luz to socialize with others. Odalia though, she is no mother. She's a monster. She is willing to freaking let other witches DIE all so that she can become royalty. I really hope amity meant to never speak to odalia ever again. Odalia deserves no one, she deserves nothing, she deserves to be alone.
@joyc.e.7511
@joyc.e.7511 Год назад
Yeah, I think it's a lot of projection going on and not actually looking at some of Luz's behavior in the human realm. They took Camila's decision to send Luz to camp in the most extreme way possible and assumed the worst of her.
@robby7499
@robby7499 Год назад
Like her bringing potentially venomous snakes into school didn't cross them as a bad idea?
@bendingtwilight
@bendingtwilight Год назад
Wait people are still calling Camilla a bad mom?
@casualfanatic4217
@casualfanatic4217 Год назад
Everyone hates Odalia for the same reason that she’s a horrible person but I hate her for being an idiot. Despite being given the info by Belos himself that he wanted to kill EVERYONE on the isles, she really thought that because she’s so special she would be excluded from global genocide. The man wants to kill everyone in the world, what makes you think he’d allow you to live just because you helped him kill everyone? Alador: Odalia, The emperor plans to kill everyone on the isles Odalia: I missed the part where that’s my problem Me: Ok let me repeat that part, HE’S GOING TO KILL YOU
@joyc.e.7511
@joyc.e.7511 Год назад
I think she was of the same mind as the Coven Heads. I feel like they knew it was going to kill a lot of people, but thought that they were above that some how.
@dragonico6847
@dragonico6847 Год назад
There is a small posibility she's actually covenless. In cloud on the horizon she seems to cast a ilusion.(Luz's wanted poster) She covers hers arms so we may never know
@Zarugoza5969
@Zarugoza5969 Год назад
@@dragonico6847 i kinda like this conspiracy
@simsgirlgem
@simsgirlgem Год назад
So she’s a Karen
@esbeng.s.a9761
@esbeng.s.a9761 Год назад
yeah dictartors don't want clever people who would betray them, they want loyality about all else, so what if the people under them are idiots, just easyiere to control
@tayloredwards4968
@tayloredwards4968 Год назад
She is a horrible mother. 😡 Not only does she not care about her children or her husband. But she flat out tried to control their lives. And even going so far as to knowingly help the emperor. Knowing that he was planning on killing everyone and didn't care.
@elenadehowlerwerewolfqueen8164
To say she’s horrible is a MASSIVE understatement… words can’t describe just how bad she is…
@brandonscott5544
@brandonscott5544 Год назад
Odalia blight yep terrible mother very Very terrible very clearly
@WooffzTheCoon
@WooffzTheCoon Год назад
Thought it said ‘She is not a horrible mother 😡’ and had to re-read it
@ZyroShadowPony
@ZyroShadowPony Год назад
I always imagined darius hated alador's abominations because they were machine like. Manufacturered. While his are more organic but now im thinking odalia had a hand in this. Maybe alador was more organic and she corrupted him with the idea of industrialization of abominations
@lukedalton
@lukedalton Год назад
Honestly the rivalry between him and Alador seem a lot professional as both are basically the best specialist in abomination in the entire setting, but frankly Alador seem to be in his own class and if he was more inclined and have much more people skill he will be easily get the spot of head coven
@rocknerd_
@rocknerd_ 8 месяцев назад
Never thought of it as industry vs nature, but that idea is honestly pretty cool
@docfox4353
@docfox4353 Год назад
Camila might not be a perfect parent, but she is nowhere near as bad as Odalia. Odalia has forced her daughter to cut connections with her best friend because she came from a lower class family, forced Amity to dye her hair because she wanted her kids color coded, was willing to let her kids work in her deadly business, and is willing to overlook genocide for money.
@joyc.e.7511
@joyc.e.7511 Год назад
I don't even think Camila deserves to be in the category of "bad parent". She's never neglected or ignored Luz, she still very much KNOWS her daughter (well, before she went through some shit in the Boiling Isles). Camila only wanted Luz to go to that camp to learn how to socialize...and stop releasing snakes in schools lol. While Alador, although he loves his children, hasn't been present enough to actually know who they are as people. But it's good he's trying to do better. Odalia, if she loves her kids, only does in the sense that they are extensions of herself. They are worthy of love only when they act how she wants...and that's beyond horrible. Not to mention her disregard for life in general.
@foxyfox9196
@foxyfox9196 Год назад
As someone in CPTSD therapy and support groups in large part to the kinds of emotional parentification, emotional manipulations, and the physical violence that has been implied by Luz's expectations, grom monster transformation into a larger and scarier twisting of her mom when she yells "have you been lying to me" and "you're breaking my heart" as well as her casual chancla usage against an already incapacitated man that she just didn't like what he was saying at that point. Fuck camila. Fuck people that act like you have to be "the worst" to be called out for how terrible you are. And fuck the entire concept of comparing traumas oftenin a way that is less sympathetic to poc and low income children than it is to sad white rich kids (especially as that often fails to take into consideration all the trauma tht comes with poverty and/or being minority independent of any parenting)| Plus if she really knew and cared about luz and just wanted her to socialize better, she wouldn't have sent her to a tax camp and thrown out her favorite books. She would have found some camp that centers around her interests where she can make friends that enjoy the same things she does in a structured environment that showcases appropriate and inappropriate use of creativity and props. A drama camp, anime, book club, some arts and crafts camp. Something that nurtures what is good and natural about Luz, while also helping her to grow up ion helpful ways,. So no, I'm not giving credit for her knowing more than alador. I mean ffs, she's like 10. How is she getting dead birds, spiders, snakes, etc and bringing them to school so often? My mom had 5 kids and 2 jobs and often college herself. She still never overlooked when a kid would try to keep a mouse in the house or bring any kind of animal (let alone fireworks) to school. (brother once got expelled for bringing a knife, but those are pretty easy to hide) Come on now. Half of her behavior issues is about the fact that she's crying for help and attention and doing shocking things is the only option she sees to either impress her peers, or to have her mom pay attention to *herA* needs for once (instead of just relying on Luz/classic role reversal)
@foxyfox9196
@foxyfox9196 Год назад
@@joyc.e.7511 Shes so emotionally abusive/emotionally parentifies Luz (very common after divorce or death of another parent or other traumas in the parents life.) so severely she's literally Luz's biggest fear and Luz is too preoccupied with how to emotionally take care of her mom to actually live her own life on several occasional. aNd they hint towards physical abuse as wall (mostly luz's expectations, habit of flinching, and complete fear of a violent reaction when she knows she's upset eda who only said something like "I won't trust you if you make a mess" She's a shit mom. They come in a wide variety. This one just happens to be terrible in a way that way too many identify with and try to excuse away from their own parents or even themselves. Which makes her extra important to call out, vs the one literally joining the evil team and broadcasting pure evil vibes. Most abusers are just regular people. Many child abusers are "imperfect parents who try their best". That's just reality. -Someone in long term therapy due in large part to having a mom like camila
@joyc.e.7511
@joyc.e.7511 Год назад
@@foxyfox9196 My heart goes out to you and I hope things are going better for you. But Camila is NOT abusive and is the one parenting Luz, not the other way around. What about Luz's or Camila's behavior made you think differently? Luz behaves like the child she is. The whole reason Camila wants to send Luz to camp is because she believes it's best for her. and wants her to be able to socialize with people her own age. That's parenting. Camila was Luz's biggest fear because she is the closest person to her. Luz has a hard time making friends due to her eccentric personality, but her mother has never tried to limit her (till she brought live snakes to school). Based on all the things that Vee was going to throw out in episode 10, it's obvious her mother has always supported her and let her be the imaginative child she is. So lying to her, especially on this scale, would bother Luz more than anything else. I think you're reading too much into Luz's flinching as well as her and her mother's behavior. The show has never shied away from depicting abusive relationships (Hunter and Amity) and I'm certain they would have addressed it if that was how she was. I completely agree that many abusers hide behind the guise of "imperfect parents trying their best" and "tough love" but Camila LITERALLY is just trying her best. She hasn't raised Luz perfectly and maybe the camp idea came off as too drastic. But it was just a normal camp that would have been good for Luz. She probably would have made some friends, like Vee did. Everything we've seen of Camila has been kind and I believe that's how she actually is and always puts Luz first. Not emotionally manipulative. NOT a shit mother. Your basis for saying she is would put all mothers into that category. What better way could Camila have acted?
@foxyfox9196
@foxyfox9196 Год назад
@@joyc.e.7511 The fact that Luz even has to center Camila's feelings. Weaponizing her feelings to manipulate and extort Luz into appeasing her mom's negative feelings while she was already under stress and really needed a fucking PARENT to be the one providing emotional comfort and support to her. Hell her entire reason for being upset about the aniversary of her dad's death is because she feels the need to be there for her mom, who still grieving. Implying Luz isn't really able to focus on her own feelings. She's the CHILD
@Manyfetch
@Manyfetch Год назад
"All happy families are alike, but every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way" is why toxic family dynamics are pretty popular in fiction
@revanius2213
@revanius2213 Год назад
I think it makes sense that Odalia had Willow and Gus expelled as well even though her main target was Luz. Remember how she's part of the Oracle Track, she might have used her magic to determine the best way to get Luz to come to Blight Maner so she can use the Abomaton on her.
@zakarymoninger7845
@zakarymoninger7845 Год назад
Also, I think Odalia sees this as upholding the "deal" she made when Amity was five. She said that if Amity stayed friends with Willow, that she would use her influence to ensure Willow wouldn't attend Hexside, so when she discovers Amity has a bunch of unapproved friends, she does exactly that and rubs it in over the necklace.
@felixrivera895
@felixrivera895 Год назад
She's not a homophobe, she's a capitalist! GET HER!
@fnaf6491
@fnaf6491 Год назад
Odalia: WHAT ARE YOU DOING?! Alador: that was the sound of a F***ING DIVORCE
@leemorrell
@leemorrell Год назад
HAHA, Helluva Boss reference!!!!
@alexjewett7455
@alexjewett7455 Год назад
16:10 luz isn't the only one responsible. Willow agreed to go along with the cheating plan, but she also helped Luz escape by filling the hallway with vines. And gus lied and told Luz he got the ban lifted, which is how she got thrown into detention in the first place, then he also helped her destroy detention. I'm just saying, the other two aren't entirely blameless, here.
@jlwiseman98
@jlwiseman98 Год назад
Honestly I think the reason ppl like belos more then odalia despite his actions being worse is odalia is far closer to home. Like yeah, philip is a cult leader, abuses his nephew, and he's a tyrant bent on genocide.....but he's also a 300 year old puritan who turns into a goop monster, wears a silly bird mask, gets upset when a teenager makes fun of his clothes, and gets splat by a God child. He's great obviously as metaphors and showcasing real life manipulatiors, but his character is SO ridiculous in concept that its easier to enjoy him as a fictional character then odalia. Not to mention we have more of his backstory (i still maintain the fact that he's a tragic villian, so to even a small extent the audience can feel bad for him despite what he did and did to himself). Odalia is not nearly as goofy, nor do we get sympathetic aspects to her, she is always relentlessly awful and cruel and manipulative and selfish and her behavior is sadly reminiscent of people that do exist and you may be related to. Like there are way more people out there like odalia blight then philip wittebane, and you're far more likely to know someone like her then philip. Belos is evil but he's also completely ridiculous and easy to goof on. Odalia never gets too goofy, she stays as realistic as one could get making a selfish manipulative witch mom. So while belos did worse, the fact the fandom enjoys him far more then odalia makes a lot of sense.
@danielasarmiento3101
@danielasarmiento3101 Год назад
So the Dolores Umbridge effect?
@bthsr7113
@bthsr7113 Год назад
@@danielasarmiento3101 Fair comparison. Tom had some reasons to be angry, and despite racism underlying his world view, he was also a snake nosed supervillain obsessed with immortality. Dolores was much more mundane as a bigoted beurocratic bish.
@meepbeep2464
@meepbeep2464 Год назад
hmmm reading this gives me a feeling that odalia might become the main villain in season 3...
@MasterKnightDH
@MasterKnightDH Год назад
​@@bthsr7113 And that's not even getting into Tom having been conceived under a date-rape drug used by a destabilized woman. We're just after him for making his far-reaching choices to be a dangerous moron regardless. But Odalia, like Scumb*tch, is just frustrating with no real attempt at a valid excuse. And with Odalia, my favorite part is her abuse of Alador. We do NOT need abusive wives like that exploiting the system, thank you.
@vroomvroom9146
@vroomvroom9146 Год назад
I have another way Amity’s memory could’ve been the way they have been. It seems like Odalia uses the kids as a weapon against Alador telling him they’re gonna have to “help with the family business” to get him to shut up. Also during their time at hexside when they expelled the squad she seemed to cue when Alador could speak which he stuttered as if he was told what to say. I just have a small feeling that she would’ve used that as a threat before
@avch1209
@avch1209 Год назад
I don't know why but I imagine her and Kikimora competing now for who is the best maid for the collector and even wearing aprons with stars
@paigestubbs9718
@paigestubbs9718 Год назад
😂 who would have more stars? Odalia or Kikimora? I think it would be Odalia
@radiantduality8366
@radiantduality8366 Год назад
People with Alador before Odalia: "Why are you such a terrible parent?" People with Alador AFTER Odalia: "Ah. I see. You're the good parent."
@Bostonterrierslol
@Bostonterrierslol Год назад
I swear I had no idea Rachel MacFarlane voiced Odalia. But it is so fitting
@moxxiedemongamer3019
@moxxiedemongamer3019 Год назад
that's what I'd thought too
@SnazzyjazzBro
@SnazzyjazzBro Год назад
She was heavy on the British snobbery accent that I didn't recognize her.
@FrogKanna
@FrogKanna Год назад
Odalia is a bad mother but in my opinion she’s a good Edition to the story, it gives children watching the show an idea of “hey this behaviors real bad, if an adult where to treat me like this I would tell someone.” Or at least that’s what I like to think, it’s simply my interpretation of it. She’s also a good edition to help develop Amity, not only that she has a lot of potential and if Amity was the mc then Odalia would be a much bigger player in the story. Either way I like her as a character and I hate her as a person.
@megawonszrzeczny9
@megawonszrzeczny9 Год назад
I love your profile picture
@mesiagamer5217
@mesiagamer5217 Год назад
You're not wrong about the bad parent pattern in animation. It sucks cause when there are good parents it celebrated and not standard. Honestly I can only think of Stoic the vast from How to train your dragon of the top of my head even with his issues he genuinely loves his son and genuinely trying his best to raise him and prepare him for what's to come.
@floricel_112
@floricel_112 Год назад
then we also have mister Ping from kung fu panda who, despite being Po's adoptive father and would like for him to inherit the restaurant one day, he truly loves Po, genuinely sees him as his son and is supportive on his kung fun dream. He never belittles him or his dream, telling him "you're a big fat panda. You can't do kung fu! Your destiny is soup!" or stuff along those lines; and when Po is feeling down and questions himself, mister Ping cheers him up and helps him understand things by revealing to him the secret to his special soup
@Bezaliel13
@Bezaliel13 Год назад
Alador: "Gonna miss dem hips do." Amity and the twins: "DAD!"
@robby7499
@robby7499 Год назад
My man
@Bezaliel13
@Bezaliel13 Год назад
@@robby7499 😁
@leemorrell
@leemorrell Год назад
Darius: *smacks Alador upside the back of the head* "BOI, STOP! You and that old hag are divorced!"
@Bezaliel13
@Bezaliel13 Год назад
@@leemorrell 😁
@Ed_Gein_crafts
@Ed_Gein_crafts 3 месяца назад
Darius doesn't skip Glute Day so Alador should still be happy with all that cake
@shadowwriter4538
@shadowwriter4538 Год назад
It's easy to hate Odalia for being a horrible person and terrible mother and wife; we're suppose to hate her for that. However, I really hate for being a stupid businesswoman and being so blind as to side with Belos's plan, thinking that she would survive or even benefit from without any real contigencies. She knew the whole plan and still didn't try to make absolutley sure she and "the family" survived. Even if she turned out to be conveless witch (since I've heard people say that she might) and safe from the draining spell, she had a literal army she could take control and use against Belos, stop his plan and come out on top as the Boiling Isle's saviour and likely be recognized as the next ruler. It's like that thought didn't even cross her mind. Odalia is easily on a list of villains that are the worst of them all simply because if I, or any of us, can come up with a better plan than she did then you know she failed. She's even stupider than Bradford Buzzard (Ducktales 2017).
@nicholasholladay-elser7307
@nicholasholladay-elser7307 Год назад
With where she looked before Alador said 'You knew?' I think she was looking where her Oracle Coven mark would be, indicated she predicted something along those lines beforehand and thus was not surprised. At least that's how I interpreted it.
@HazbinCovenWitch
@HazbinCovenWitch Год назад
I thought she was looking at her nails, like she was bored.
@Fusilier7
@Fusilier7 Год назад
Odalia is not only a bad mother to Amity and the twins, she's also a bad wife to Alador, and the worst person on the Boiling Isles, right up there with Belos. The fact that Oldalia remained loyal to Belos, despite knowing Belos' plan to commit mass genocide, she continues to collaborate, thinking she would be exempted and rewarded, well lady, you cannot have a hierarchy without people, but you will be the richest and evilest person in the graveyard.
@TooningIn2008
@TooningIn2008 Год назад
Let’s hope she doesn’t get redeemed or forgiven
@joyc.e.7511
@joyc.e.7511 Год назад
There's nothing to redeem, honestly.
@firemiracle
@firemiracle Год назад
I hope so too. It's good to give others second chances, but people like odalia??... screw her, she deserves nothing! 😠
@joshuajackson8120
@joshuajackson8120 Год назад
@@joyc.e.7511 or to forgive for
@slaybutton1692
@slaybutton1692 Год назад
I think that's what Alador's for. Odalia shows the kind of abusive parent you should cut off while Alador shows the kind of abusive parent that is worth forgiving because they legitimately try to be better and realize their errors
@necrodeus6811
@necrodeus6811 Год назад
@@slaybutton1692 100%, their both abusers on different paths. Alador hurt amity a lot but he's trying to change.
@Nobody-tm9vr
@Nobody-tm9vr Год назад
Honestly, I'm so curious what she is going to do in S3. I have the feeling her role is not finished yet.
@firemiracle
@firemiracle Год назад
All i hope to see is odalia being abandoned by her family. Alador deserves full custody of his kids because odalia never even saw them as her kids. I swear, i know belos is horrible but i'm sure we can agree that she is equally horrible like him.
@robby7499
@robby7499 Год назад
Honestly see her trying to pull a Mr. Northwest moment and trying to become a "Horsemen of the Apocalypse" for the Collector.
@namesdontmattergaming2756
@namesdontmattergaming2756 Год назад
@@robby7499 And then the collector turns her into a Mrs Potato head, and rearranges her toy limbs 💀
@jbcatz5
@jbcatz5 Год назад
I hope she gets disgraced like the Northwest parents in Gravity Falls. She’s irredeemable.
@jaohonaxa
@jaohonaxa Год назад
I think there's a 70% of her staying evil/just losing her family, and then maybe a 30% or less chance that she tries to redeem, only because redemption is a major theme of this show, but in her case it would be a stretch.
@Captain_TinyBean13
@Captain_TinyBean13 Год назад
Odalia = Umbridge. They are basically all in the same, they have to act a bad character but their voice actor or actor is quite kind.
@zacglover3345
@zacglover3345 9 месяцев назад
If odaila is umbridge then belos is voldemort
@mackthompson616
@mackthompson616 Год назад
i think willow and gus getting expelled was for luz’s (and amity’s) character development. she has shifted from the mindset of “the BI is cool and i wanna learn magic!” to “the BI is home and i put the pressure of saving the world and protecting my friends on myself,” and so her motivation doesn’t come from getting herself back at Hexide but getting Willow and Gus back, self sacrificing as is her norm now. If only Luz got expelled, she may internalize Odalia’s message, accept expulsion, and distance herself from her friends. This would make it harder to have Amity’s arc in the episode bc it’s a moment of sudden danger that pushes her over the edge of snapping the necklace. I’m not saying there isn’t other, more logical plots for this episode to show this characterization & character growth but it makes sense why they did what they did
@TheRoomforImprovement
@TheRoomforImprovement Год назад
Say what you will about Alador, at least he realized his poor parenting and changed for the better.
@leemorrell
@leemorrell Год назад
You're damn right, he did!!! And that's on Character Development!!!💯
@sarahelroub1800
@sarahelroub1800 Год назад
I would not be surprised if the name blight was Odalia’s family name and had alador change his when they got “married”
@paigestubbs9718
@paigestubbs9718 Год назад
probably
@shirendjorgee9320
@shirendjorgee9320 Год назад
That isn’t bad in itself, as women are often expected to do so anyway. Not defending Odalia, but I don’t think this is an example of her bad behaviour
@sarahelroub1800
@sarahelroub1800 Год назад
@@shirendjorgee9320 it wasn’t necessarily referring to her toxic behavior, just that with what we’ve seen of her, it makes sense that the family name Blight came from her
@ifeeldead463
@ifeeldead463 Год назад
I guess the reason she didnt care thaat Amity stopped hanging out with Boscha and Skara is cuz it didnt affect her academic skills and the business + Boscha and Skara probs didnt tell their parents who in turn didnt tell Odalia.
@forestbunny4933
@forestbunny4933 Год назад
I think especially with the later implications, Alador was modtly just trying to placate Odalia by using her own wants and logic to make her stand down. He already showed he didnt approve of Odalia going too far, it doesnt make him a good dad, but it does show he wanted to protect the kids
@flutenanyidk1806
@flutenanyidk1806 Год назад
Get my girl Camila's name OUT OF YOUR MOUTH! Yeah, she's not perfect, but she loves her kid and tries her best. Plus, she goes to THE DEMON REALM for her. Also, she only recomennded that camp in a desperate attempt to give Luz friends, and liked her crazy antics- even understood them. I know this video is old, but I STAN Camila, and especially with the release of Thanks to Them, all I have to say is... "GO MAMA!!!" Edit: Odalia's thighs, existing. Amity's scrawny frame, also existing. Amity is either a late bloomer, or looks more like her dad.
@williehughes1690
@williehughes1690 Год назад
I always wondered if Odalia had the twins at one point wear the same type of Oricale communication pendant.
@demonchildDLC
@demonchildDLC Год назад
I'm honestly wondering if I'm the only person that caught the resentment in Alador's eyes whenever he looked at Odalia. There was definately nore going on behind the scenes between the two of them. Alador barely looks at Odalia, and when he does, his expression says he'd rather be anywhere else than next to her. Most prominently (aside from King's tide) when she crushed the Butterfly thing he was trying to study, then grabbed him and reached in to the clothes. To me, the look read something like "I hate you" Maybe if we had a whole season three, or even a season four, we could have seen more in to the dynamic and history of Alador and Odalia.
@a.kitcat.b
@a.kitcat.b Год назад
THE THICC THIGHS CANNOT SAVE YOU FROM DESTROYING LIVES.
@TeenGohan.
@TeenGohan. 2 месяца назад
But it *CAN* excuse you.
@jaohonaxa
@jaohonaxa Год назад
A major reason I want Camila to go back with them to the Boiling Isles is I think a confrontation between her and Odalia. It would be amazing….especially if Camila brings her chancla…. Either Camila helps Odalia realize the error of her ways, or Odalia just gets her ass beat...win and bigger win.
@floricel_112
@floricel_112 Год назад
welp...... you got two more wishes. Use them wisely
@jaohonaxa
@jaohonaxa Год назад
@@floricel_112 I intend to. I legit cheered at that moment.
@austinmorrison6953
@austinmorrison6953 Год назад
Camilla’s not a perfect mother from what we’ve seen but it’s not like she totally wanted to change Luz as a person. She just wanted her daughter to improve in friend making. Plus, y’know that whole thing about bringing live snakes and fireworks to school… Odalia? Yeah she can burn alongside Belos. I don’t think she even cared about Amity at all outside of carrying on her family name.
@Jotnarballs
@Jotnarballs 10 месяцев назад
Isn't it heavily implied that Camila Noceda is neurodivergent as well? In the flashback, it was revealed that the summer camp thing wasn't even her idea- its just that so many adults criticized her for the way she took care of Luz for so long that the principal saying "if you don't do this she's going to suffer like you once did" eventually drove her to make a decision out of fear. Dunno, but that sounds like some kind of generational trauma to me.
@dylans.1741
@dylans.1741 Год назад
Odalia is eerily similar to Coco Chanel, in that she's assisting genocide just to save her own skin
@katie15732
@katie15732 Год назад
I thought you said Coco Melon for a sec 💀
@dylans.1741
@dylans.1741 Год назад
@@katie15732 Coco Melon is something very different 😅. I don't know of those guys aiding and abetting genocidal maniacs
@lornbaker1083
@lornbaker1083 Год назад
That shouldn't have made me laugh as hard as it did thank you for this
@dylans.1741
@dylans.1741 Год назад
@@lornbaker1083 No problem
@Gooberwares
@Gooberwares Год назад
The fact she married alador FOR HIS TALENT not cuz she loved him but because HE benefits her and when she couldn’t be impressive enough she pumped out 3 kids to do it for her !! She was parent mom times 100
@tcoolguy2972
@tcoolguy2972 Год назад
I always thought the reason Darius doesn’t like Alador is because of the abamotrons and he feels they disrespect abomination magic
@Rikkiroo1008
@Rikkiroo1008 Год назад
odalia being part of the oracle track, she probably looked into the future she practically used Alador, and she paid attention to Aminty cause Aminty is the more powerful one of her siblings. And she probably confronted Belos possibly, if she saw into the future.
@robby7499
@robby7499 Год назад
Honestly really appreciate the character. I love her design, but was also curious on whether she was always a greedy sociopath or if she was made into one. From flashbacks she seemed to be a lot like her daughter Amity especially with her hairstyle. Makes me wonder her exact relationship with the Clawthornes.
@jacobvalbuena4289
@jacobvalbuena4289 Год назад
Clearly no, because when see her younger self again the only face she made was a sketchy glare.
@robby7499
@robby7499 Год назад
Hence me saying whether she was always sociopathic. Made me curious about what her parents were like to make her that entitled. But whatever the case, she tried to mold Amity.
@SnazzyjazzBro
@SnazzyjazzBro Год назад
I think she was always that sociopath. Her background cameos of her youth shows her smiling rather evily. And based on Eda & Alador's one interaction I think they're on the lower end of neutral (in spite Eda's dismay of using Luz as a test dummy)
@williamfincher2260
@williamfincher2260 Год назад
I think Belos told Odalia because he knew she would be likely to sell out everyone.
@zacglover3345
@zacglover3345 9 месяцев назад
Belos played her like a triangle (because it's the easiest instrument to use)
@TheAntiDisneyEmperor
@TheAntiDisneyEmperor 6 месяцев назад
@@zacglover3345that is the sickest burn I’ve ever heard
@topcat59
@topcat59 Год назад
Theirs a part of me that thinks odalia might be vicariously living for her daughter, since she moved her to look exactly like her, Both in appearance and behavior.🐱
@bakedbaker9882
@bakedbaker9882 Год назад
*Through, not for, otherwise yeah.. Seen a sad amount of parents doing this and it makes me ill
@maplemaple626
@maplemaple626 Год назад
Usually, when we see a bad parent in a cartoon, that parent is later shown to have a softer side to them or at least an indication that they deep down they love their kids. But not Odalia. In Watching and Dreaming, we can see Amity reuniting with her father and Odalia just stands there, scowling at them. She doesn't even bother to see if her daughter is alright after everything that just happened. We also don't see her at all in the epilogue. This pretty much shows that Odalia never cared about, or even loved her children, and only saw them as employees.
@madhatter6790
@madhatter6790 3 месяца назад
I personally see it as shame, shame of her decisions, her actions and how far she went. She knows she goofed up but doesn't know what to do to fix it
@elizabethk007
@elizabethk007 Год назад
Oh boy, the most hated character in The Owl House. I think she serves her role as an antagonist well, especially in contrast to Alador
@Janoha17
@Janoha17 Год назад
The character I would first compare Odalia to is Jacques Schnee from RWBY. And my personal headcanon for Alador is that being forced to work through the fire flu and his staff being laid off made him rethink his attitude. And thinking on it, I think Escaping Expulsion is missing a scene of Willow giving Odalia a wake up call in the form of thorny vines pointed at her face and the glowing eyes of doom. For Clouds on the Horizon, we never see Odalia's coven sigil, and when she summons the poster it has the telltale blue of illusion magic. Alador does have a coven sigil. Which means it is entirely possible that she has been cheating the system the entire time with an illusion, and Belos allowed it because he knew that even without being drained, she would be left in a dead world. Being able to see the future, the Oracle Coven would be the biggest threat to Philip's plans, so he made sure the oracles were all blinded by loyalty.
@raw6668
@raw6668 Год назад
I know people that keep photos because it's the only source of positivity that still exists and can't part with them for even a second. So yeah, another point to Amity being abused. Also, I hate to say it, but Odalia is the type of mother that would not get the CPS after her. Not because she is not awful, but for several reasons. One, the agency is so overworked, and the foster system is so broken that they are more likely to ignore mental abuse when they have more server physically abusive cases to process. Amity appears healthy and not physically abused, or at least not enough to leave marks, so it is more likely to ignore. Two it is only very recently that Odolia can be viewed as an abusive mother instead of an overbearing one that pushes their child too far. There are not a lot of procedures to deal with such parents, especially if physical abuse is not apparent. Three, the type of abuse she is forcing Amity through is one that is difficult to prove. She doesn't seem to physically abuse her children, and what mental abuse we do see is more apparent due to the powers of being an audience but is overall subtle. I argue the signs are less obvious if no one with omission powers of being able to watch Amity's life on television would see her as such. And that is what makes Odalia scary and one I hope gets killed, for how well she could go under the radar and still hurt people with a smile on her face.
@cosiebeans
@cosiebeans Год назад
Alador would have had more development if Disney didn't cut TOH short
@zacglover3345
@zacglover3345 9 месяцев назад
Many owl house characters got the short end of the stick because of Disney
@cosiebeans
@cosiebeans 9 месяцев назад
@@zacglover3345 so true like the collectors would have had more lore, and Willow and Hunter's relationship wouldnt have been rushed etc etc. it's so unfortunate cuz Disney is such a coward company
@avch1209
@avch1209 Год назад
If Mr Blight is going to get a divorce, the audience will begin to theorize who his new partner will be. But…what woman could fill that space in his life and also give Amity that “mother's love” that she sorely needs?
@joyc.e.7511
@joyc.e.7511 Год назад
Personally, I either want him to stay single or potentially fix things with Darius and get with him. I don't think that Amity necessarily needs a mom, just female role models/motherly figures in her life. I'm certain Mrs. Noceda will be a great maternal figure and maybe even Eda at some later point.
@quinnfletcher3906
@quinnfletcher3906 Год назад
I think Alador would wind up in a relationship with Darius, who knows he might even marry him (this could make Hunter like a stepson or something). As for motherly love, I was really hoping that Lilith would be the one to give it to her, I prayed that her redemption arc would involve her becoming a mom to Amity. I don't think I am going to get that. I feel like the best I can hope for is them burying the hatchet. Now I realize that Camila or Eda would be a better fit. Eda has already formed a bond with the twins so becoming a mom to Amity won't be a stretch. Also since Luz and Amity are dating so a relationship of sorts with Camila is inevitable.
@tukki.edits_
@tukki.edits_ Год назад
Honestly I think Aledor is now a good character he made mistakes but is trying to fix them and he talks with his kids a lot more than in the past plus he stood up to Odalia
@grodriguez7225
@grodriguez7225 Год назад
My theory is at the Ambonation-Tron sales Amity was feeling down in the dumps and wanted her friends by her side so she thought "maybe I'll just take the picture so I'll have a piece of them with me".
@digieykid6096
@digieykid6096 Год назад
I’ve seen a lot of people interpreting Odalia as getting the Blight name from Alador because of its power, fame and prestige. This is of course completely fitting for her character. I however find this to be a complete and utter waste. The name Blight could not fit her more perfectly. It’s not just a name it’s a description. Odalia is a horrid, rotten thing that poisons and corrupts everything she touches. Every toxic element her family holds likely had her hand in it from Alador’s neglect to, the twins bullying, to Amity’s coldness. A family that likely could have been very healthy and happy without her was instead a nightmarish thing brining Misery to all it members until the diseased parts were removed and the healing could truly begin. She is literal Blight to everyone and everything around her especially on her family.
@BlueAngel7
@BlueAngel7 Год назад
If Belos wasn't even going to let the Coven heads live, what made Odalia think he'd let her live!
@jbcatz5
@jbcatz5 Год назад
He knows how to manipulate people, and Odalia is easier to play than a violin if you have influence she wants. She wants power and prestige, and being part of the last surviving family is such an easy pitch to her.
@faielyne
@faielyne Год назад
Why would Odalia need social points if literally everyone else is *D E A D*
@purpleshutin
@purpleshutin Год назад
A bad parent that I really want you to talk about is Spitelout from dragons: Race to the Edge. I don't know if you've even seen the show, but with the little we see of him interacting with Snotlout (his son) in the six seasons, we get to see A LOT of his horrible parenting
@TheCommenterDragon
@TheCommenterDragon Год назад
This is a very splendid and fitting roast vid Kitty Monk i love it! as i said in the chat Odalia has committed so many crimes that she deserves to be in prison, in fact i were a character in TOH i would personally lock her up and throw away the key. and as for Alador again as i said in the chat i would've liked to have seen an episode where Alador learns how to be a single stay at home dad.
@digimonalvatrax2738
@digimonalvatrax2738 Год назад
There's also a disturbing theory that Odalia treated Amity like a miniature version of herself and was the golden child. Probably why the twins treated Amity badly and caused a rift between them.
@ultrafighterk.o.7511
@ultrafighterk.o.7511 8 месяцев назад
At least Alador is like a way better version of Preston Northwest. Also, I like it when the most hated people get roasted because it feels so right.
@rgg1009
@rgg1009 Год назад
I don't hate Odalia... as a character I mean, she's not terrible. Kinda not-bad written. She wants the best for her family and herself... well, according to her views of course.
@floricel_112
@floricel_112 Год назад
typical narcissistic behaviour
@eeveefennecfox
@eeveefennecfox Год назад
Rodrigo Gameiro so in other words you like abuse? wow you need therapy if you like abuse
@rgg1009
@rgg1009 Год назад
@@eeveefennecfox Surely I didn't say that.... I'm only admiring a good writting character
@drrpdingo
@drrpdingo Год назад
Odalia looks like an older stressed out Shego from Kim possible.
@quincyconnors9391
@quincyconnors9391 Год назад
Oh please don't insult Shego. Shego's got style and standards.
@brandonscott5544
@brandonscott5544 Год назад
odalia blight terrible mother @
@avch1209
@avch1209 Год назад
Ms Blight is like the father dinosaur from Ice Age 5. She didn't want a tragedy to be avoided because she believed that she would survive with her family and then they would live like kings…but in reality she would die too
@pixxelzecatto
@pixxelzecatto Год назад
I think that the alador rat (alarat?) is alador’s palisman because we have literally never seen his palisman
@machadragonii145
@machadragonii145 Год назад
I think you said it best in third video on Ador that she's arguably worse than Fire lord Ozai from Avatar and that's a real high bar to top
@austinmorrison6953
@austinmorrison6953 Год назад
So in other words Odalia is in the same row as Nagisa’s mom from Assassination classroom before her character development and not as directly psychotic.
@egranger2128
@egranger2128 Год назад
Dana did a pretty good job at shutting down the assumptions that Camilla was a bad mom with “Thanks to Them”.
@puppetpawss
@puppetpawss Год назад
Somebody actually pointed this out elsewhere, but something to think about that just shows how awful Odalia really is: She was aware of the Day of Unity and Emperor Belos's plan, yet continued to keep trying to sign Amity up for Coven Tryouts.
@Jjjr-
@Jjjr- Год назад
The fact she had alador in a tight grip is so sad cause i guarantee he couldn't just leave because of her
@oprime
@oprime Год назад
Something tells me that Odalia spittle get along with the Green Goblin in business, cruelty and insanity.
@gagelewis6577
@gagelewis6577 Год назад
The only thing that isn't negative about Odalia is that she isn't homophobic
@brolytriplethreat
@brolytriplethreat Год назад
That doesn't mean anything when nobody on the Isles is. Except probably Belos.
@StylusShade
@StylusShade Год назад
29:55 Nice to see I'm not the only one who had this thought. Everybody was all like "Oh, she's not a homophobe? She's got at least a few standards," But, like, how can you have standards on something that you don't even know exists?
@erickamakeeaina1649
@erickamakeeaina1649 Год назад
It was mainly just a joke
@marissawindler9214
@marissawindler9214 Год назад
Odalia: “are you trying to make me look bad?” Me: honey, look in the mirror, you already look horrendous🙄😒
@MasterKnightDH
@MasterKnightDH Год назад
Apparently, Odalia needed help in that department, on the inside OR out
@lavaninja1042
@lavaninja1042 Год назад
I think you should do a Boscha video because people like despite being in like 5 episodes 2 in which cameos.I just feel like there was so much you can dig into she obviously a mean girl but she passion about her goal and seems like she will work hard to achieve it.
@carpevinum8645
@carpevinum8645 Год назад
It is a shame that Disney has neutered what the story could have been. I am glad that they have a tiny bit of rope to tie things up. Was really excited to see where the team wanted to take things. Screw you Chapek.
@Purple_SunSet_
@Purple_SunSet_ Год назад
0:58 Man I guess there is a reason why he is considered a bad parent like he got four episodes on her channel dedicated on how he tortured hunter
@loki1456
@loki1456 Год назад
Odalia literally reminds me of my mother. Which terrifies me.
@loki1456
@loki1456 Год назад
Edit: "her mother was a jackal and her father...was a used car salesman!" I almost died.
@KanaHyoshi
@KanaHyoshi Год назад
I interpreted Amity had that picture because it's a comfort item. She seemed to hate the demonstrations, so it made sense to me that she'd take the pictire with her.
@Toriyamaus
@Toriyamaus Год назад
I thought this video would be good for watching while making my brother's b-day card, but, instead I got distracted by talking in the premiere chat and now have to rush to finish it before he gets home, lol. It was really fun anyways, great video! The premiere chat was really fun and I'll miss the people involved in it.
@bethanykroemer559
@bethanykroemer559 Год назад
how’s the card going
@Toriyamaus
@Toriyamaus Год назад
@@bethanykroemer559 I am _maybe_ half way done and I deeply regret my choice of art style, lol. I really hope he appreciates it. Thanks for asking.
@katie15732
@katie15732 Год назад
I'm watching this video while finishing my essay, but I got distracted by the video too 😅
@wisdomcube3.019
@wisdomcube3.019 Год назад
Odalia just existing makes Moon Butterfly (Star's mother from Star vs the Forces of Evil), Ragyo Kiryuin (Ryuko's mother from Kill La Kill) and Rose Quartz (Steven's mother from Steven Universe) and Linda Stotch (Butter's mother from South Park) look like good mothers by comparison.
@erickamakeeaina1649
@erickamakeeaina1649 Год назад
Ragyo I would contest
@hithere911
@hithere911 Год назад
No, Ragyo is worse. At least Odalia didn't m*l*st her kids. This is in no way defending Odalia, just pointing out a glaring difference. The rest I agree are still better than her. Moon at least cared about Star, and I honestly think Rose Quartz didn't think that her past would come back to bite her son in the ass.
@wisdomcube3.019
@wisdomcube3.019 Год назад
@@hithere911 Wait, she did? Man, I did not notice that since it's been a while since I watched Kill la Kill. Side note: I bet Lois Griffin from Family Guy should be roasted for being one of the worst mothers in animation.
@hithere911
@hithere911 Год назад
@@wisdomcube3.019 Yeah. During a publicized fight. Just all around a terrible excuse of person.
@mostmajestic464
@mostmajestic464 Год назад
Personally Camilla isn’t a bad mom, she was just trying to help.
@insertnamehere1398
@insertnamehere1398 Год назад
She’s a great mom trying her best
@meepbeep2464
@meepbeep2464 Год назад
honestly she gooped up when she didn't notice how hurt Luz was when she enrolled her to summer camp, other than that I think she actually thought she was helping Luz. Like, she didn't realize that she was pushing her daughter away but she never intended to make Luz feel so alienated that she would fit in more in the Boiling Isles.
@Shadow_the_Edgehog
@Shadow_the_Edgehog Год назад
She had good intentions
@ThePrincessCH
@ThePrincessCH Год назад
@@meepbeep2464 Honestly, Luz was lucky it was just a summer camp. She might have gotten arrested if she had actually triggered those fireworks for her book report.
@russellhess2405
@russellhess2405 Год назад
She wants Gus and Willow expelled as well for isolation so Amity can’t rely on/lean on anyone
@Rediscool9
@Rediscool9 Год назад
If there is ONE single good thing about someone as loathsome as Odalia it’s that she’s not homophobic.
@DoctorBabylon
@DoctorBabylon 9 месяцев назад
28:28 “What the hell was that?” It was a Big Lipped Alligator Moment, it comes out of nowhere, doesn't make sense in context, and is never mentioned again.
@jaohonaxa
@jaohonaxa Год назад
The only bare minimum chance I think Odalia has of being redeemed comes from the fact that while she was selfish, greedy, abusive, and cold to her family, she did in her effed up way never seem to think about leaving them behind. She always spoke about them together: "what's best for the family" "we'll be royalty" etc. It's misguided and screwed up, but there's a very, very faint foundation of caring there. Or maybe the show will end with her being broke and alone, but never regretting her choices....I think it's a 50-50 at best, maybe closer to 70-30
@joyc.e.7511
@joyc.e.7511 Год назад
The thing about her "caring" for her family, is that she still sees them as objects/part of herself. If she eventually understands that they are their own people and accepts that, then I think that eventually she'll become better. I don't like to use the word redeemed, because it makes it sound like someone has been forgiven of everything. I don't think Alador is "redeemed", it's a work in progress. Her family will probably never forgive her, but they might still interact with her, on occasion. But only if they want to.
@jaohonaxa
@jaohonaxa Год назад
@@joyc.e.7511 That's a good way to put it. I don't deny that she is toxic in every sense of the word, but having that barest minimum of care can sometimes pave the way for redemption, but only if she puts in the work, and it would take a LOT of work for her to even start that.
@robby7499
@robby7499 Год назад
Nah, once you help a madman in attempted genocide of your own species, there is no going back. She's someone who would be hard-pressed to admit she was wrong.
@robby7499
@robby7499 Год назад
And she ultimately views her family as items that she controls like her trying to mold Amity to be just like her.
@jbcatz5
@jbcatz5 Год назад
She doesn’t see her family as people, she sees them as business assets. Alador needs to invent things, Amity needs to be the daughter supporting the business and the twins probably asked to stay out of the way because they don’t have any skills Odalia sees as useful to Blight Industries beyond grunt work.
@akanueirnightmaris
@akanueirnightmaris Год назад
Simply because he probably knew he could more abomitoms out of Odalia if he clued her in to the skeam
@HestiaVesta
@HestiaVesta Год назад
I noticed that Amity only demonstrated products that were completed didn't test things that weren't completed like how Mora's jetpack was untested and could have exploded on the thing's back
@slaybutton1692
@slaybutton1692 Год назад
Yeah that's how business works, you show the best things
@HestiaVesta
@HestiaVesta Год назад
@@slaybutton1692 the point I was hinting at is that Odalia was going to force the 3 of them to test the untested and potentially very dangerous items before they were reasonable safe because they were safe and though Odalia didn't want to with Luz could be called if quickly if Odalia followed through they could have been in serious danger.
@TheAntiDisneyEmperor
@TheAntiDisneyEmperor 6 месяцев назад
@@slaybutton1692at least they have people who knew what they signed up for,Amity meanwhile wasn’t really given a choice in the matter,and you know exactly who to blame 👆
@belladonna1950
@belladonna1950 Год назад
The vest has the crystal ball of the Oracle coven in groups of 3 in with the balls overlapping in a look that reminds me of those pretenpscous Karen's with their small flower patterns.
@briancorvello3620
@briancorvello3620 Год назад
19:10 I think the abominations are effectively mindless, most of the time. I mean, Amity used one in another episode as bait for a monster
@moxxiedemongamer3019
@moxxiedemongamer3019 Год назад
5:17 Boy HATE to imagine BOTH Rick and Morty and The Owl House between terrible parental figures Granted Alador is Nothing like Jerry
@russtdragonking8004
@russtdragonking8004 Год назад
Personally I saw Alador as someone who is overworked to the point he is sleep deprived all the time. As someone going though colege and have to pull all nighters all the time I know how that can mess with your head. I mean right now I have been up for 2 days trying to get all my work done. I also feel like Alador is someone that knows he is unhappy where he is at in life but refuses to see it because of happy memorys. So I can see him telling his wife that his amity is geting stronger to help calm her down.
@Droidsbane
@Droidsbane Год назад
Actually if I remember right, Gus was also involved with the destruction of detention... I mean wasn't he the one that came up with the plan to get them out of it?
@Mangacide
@Mangacide Год назад
...I completely forgot about Jeff (that's his name right?) so when "guy that lives in a van" came up I just thought it was gonna be Greg Universe.
@ellarasei4404
@ellarasei4404 Год назад
I love the reuercing joke of Odalia being Haley and Alador being Jeff. so much so I now correlate it to American Dad
@goldenboybenny7511
@goldenboybenny7511 Год назад
Where is that dialogue at the start from “babe your having a bad dream ahhh Jeff your having a bad dream no I’m not you broke my arm” I enjoyed it.
@Rylocand
@Rylocand 7 месяцев назад
At 14:15 I believe that it was addressed in the show. In the first library episode and the first appearance of the twins, they say that Amity hides her diary in the secret library room because her mom read her previous diary when it was hidden in her room
@afrogwitch
@afrogwitch Год назад
I have this stupid hc where: Darius: ok, I was aiming to be the cool uncle, but I can be a cool dad for my dumb kid Hunter, it's fine. (reconnects with and marries Alador, ends up with 3 more kids) COME ON And the twins are just: yes, yes, YES new victims POOF no more Odalia, Darius is dad now. And will sass you.
@NostalgiaStudiosinc96
@NostalgiaStudiosinc96 Год назад
Odalia makes Norman Osborn from The Spectacular Spider-Man Look like father of year.
@demi-femme4821
@demi-femme4821 Год назад
I love how the specials meme on Odalia. First, she gets forced to clean up after the Collector. Then, Belos shows up in his terrifying goop monster form saying "oh yes, I think you'll be quite useful" and she really considers it, only to find out he was talking about Raine. And then she shows up sulking at the end, and Tibbles gets an invite to the King-ceanera over her. Like, damn.
@sparxstreak02
@sparxstreak02 Год назад
32:30 Who else wanted him to say “Also, I want a divorce.”
@oneofnone7947
@oneofnone7947 Год назад
Alidore has to have have it the worst a broken man the only thing they skipped the substance abuse but he was always out of it
@amberciel795
@amberciel795 Год назад
She's.... She's an Oracle... And she doesn't do any oracle things.... And she knows about the end kinda, so new theory. Grew up with the same type of mom she is, became obsessed with success. Had a special talent with future reading. One day, when she had just officially joined her coven, she read a bit too much into someone's future, for extra spice make it Eda, and saw what she could only describe of the end of times. She goes to the emperors coven when she's treated like she's crazy until bellows gets wind of her ruckus. He would be like "awww shiiiiii" and come up with something to tell her to calm her down and get her to not spread any of it around. And she had a new goal for greatness.
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