The OG of Pump Actions - Winchester 1897

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The Winchester 1897 was not only one of the most iconic pump actions ever built, it was also the first ever successful combat shotgun.
I have hankered after a later mode for years, (mostly to go and slam fire at clays) but looking over this early Damascus edition at Holts Auction was still a treat.
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@92fordpower 2 года назад

Fell in love with the 97 when my father gave me one as a Christmas gift he picked up at a pawn shop for $225 years ago. Recently added a holy grail piece to my collection in the form of a Cody Museum lettered 97 “Trap Gun” also called a Black Diamond. One day I’ll have a Trench Gun to sit alongside it!

@nachos_70firebird66 7 месяцев назад

2023 price I paid for my 30 inch 97 made in 1926 for $1000

@Berniessen 2 года назад

The 1893 is a stronger gun in terms of receiver but its unsafe as hell,and the 93 was redesigned and released as the model 1897. And yes these guns are old but if the action is tight and the barrel is good its no problem shooting it with normal (lead only) 12g shells.

@kylemonforte7583 2 года назад

1897s are still very affordable in the US. I picked up one made in 1929 for $300 just four years ago.

@homeschooldaddyjournal9839 2 года назад

That gun is loved here in the US. People would pay in gold bars for that thing

@lukedog7028 2 года назад

First time I pumped one of those it peeled the skin right off the top of my thumb. I remember someone describing the action of it as a gun that that looks like it falls all apart on the backstroke and miraculously goes back together on the front stroke. Or at least something to that effect.

@cmeeoutdoors7556 Год назад

Was just given a model 1897 made in 1911 takedown 12 gauge, 26 in barrel. Looks Almost Identical to the gun he has. I do wonder what it's worth? It's such an amazing gun

@christopherroberts7052 2 года назад

I have one of these that I obtained from my wife’s uncle.It was made in 1900 and has a 30 inch barrel.When I had it restricted to 3 shots in 1989 I also had it re proofed as it was only black powder and it came back proofed as a 2and three quarter inch magnum and I had it bored out to half choke.It does cause some interest when I occasionally take it clay shooting.

@SeaWarriorSon 2 года назад

My ‘97 (made in 1900) is still a perfectly fine gun today.

@bowbender5095 2 года назад

I have my Grandfather’s 1897, it’s a 16 ga take down made in 1928 with a 26” cylinder bore, a family treasure!

@parrisgeorge9708 2 года назад

John you touched on something that's pretty interesting. Winchester for a long time would pretty much build any number of their firearms how the purchaser wanted. The buyer would for lack of a better term "check the boxes" and pay their money. Winchester would then just build it as a special order piece. I have a model 21 that falls into that area. It's also one of the reasons some people concentrate on collecting particular Winchester firearms. Depending on the serial number the Cody Firearms Museum may have the build sheet for that particular 97. They got a decent number of the factory records but by no means all.

@gimp6019 2 года назад

1897 clone is still in production by Cimarron for cowboy action shooters

@johngeorge2081 2 месяца назад

I can't believe that it took me this long to find this video! I have my great, great grandfather's 1905, 16ga. He purchased it in Washington State at a general store on the peninsula. (We think Roslyn). I am gifting it to my Godson for his 30th birthday. He was actually in the Mounted Calvary in Fort Hood Texas. Great to know the history of this gun will be appreciated.

@markharvey7988 2 месяца назад

I regret to inform you that if the shotgun was purchased in Roslyn it was a very long way from the peninsula. Roslyn is east of the Cascade mountains not too far north of I-90. Cute little town made famous in 1990 by a comedy show called Northern Exposure

@MrNocash13 2 года назад

Shame it's looking sketchy for pump action ownership in the UK at the moment.....

@stevenh.390 Год назад

Just got a 1897, 1953 made. Beautiful gun, shoots like a dream!

@kevinmaughan4290 Год назад

Where did you get it

@TonyGarrett-p1c 23 дня назад

@@kevinmaughan4290 It seems they are most commonly seen at gun shows and gun auctions.

@funkla65 2 года назад

Yes, to have those two on the bench side by side would be a treat. And yeah, I'd say the 1897 is a further development of the Martini locking principle, with the breech face separated from the rear-pivoted locking block. The tipping bolt pumps are the slick ones. Take an Ithaca 37 or Winchester Model 12 for starters. And for ultraslick, a Remington 31 or a High Standard.

@harrymurphey2634 10 месяцев назад

.... you forgot one ... the Remington Model 17 ... designed Mr John Browning, released in 1917 but only in 20ga ... and that model was the direct father of the Ithaca Model 37 that was a slightly updated Model 17 by Peterson when the origonal patents ran out ...

@montanamountainmen6104 Год назад

I have a reproduction 97 solid frame with a 20 inch imp. cyl. barrel. I've killed many ducks, grouse and rabbits with it.

@Shot_Gunner Год назад

I really enjoy the shotgun content. I actually own a Winchester Model 1897 Riot model. Excellent shotgun, shoots very well.

@Helm-w1q 8 месяцев назад

That is a fine looking shotgun you got there. I don't think a finger pump shotgun has ever been made. I have a 1901 in good shooting condition.

@gnarshread 2 года назад

I've never thought about the history of pumps. Thanks for the education.

@forddude1976 Год назад

Was the Winchester 1897 Mead in 2+1 to meet the section 2?. I'd really like to have a copy of the trench gun ie hand sheild and bayonet. What is the UK law on deactivated I'd even have a deactivated one.

@davidghirardi6282 2 года назад

Hola soy de Argentina muy buenos videos. Saludos.

@trucks_n_tractors_6335 2 года назад

I own one passed down from my great grandfather still take it out and shoot it every now and then

@enmarge3778 Месяц назад

In france you would pay about 2200 Euros for something like this, starting price!

@tgsoutdoors Месяц назад

Ouch

@ShepFL002 2 года назад

Love your videos young man

@johngeorge2081 2 месяца назад

Right you are. After a quick conversation with my uncle and a reference to the family tree/history, it appears that he traveled to the Peninsula where he stayed for nearly 3 years before sending for his wife and then 4 year old girl...who leaves a wife and 1 year old in Kansas while in Washington? They then settled in the Roslyn area where they stayed for nearly 20 years, eventually settling in the Tri Cities area. Records show Kennewick (sp?).

@tgsoutdoors 2 месяца назад

🔥

@DFox-ud3gx 2 года назад

Johnny I think the 1897 was a trench gun in ww-1 . My grand Father was there and he talked about this gun .

@tgsoutdoors 2 года назад

It was under the M97/M1917 guise, with a massive bayonet and heat shield.

@tomhman6441 2 года назад

Really nice review

@kerm9807 2 года назад

Pumps are awesome 👌

@MegaRiffraff 2 месяца назад

👍🏻

@bigboybiker4851 2 года назад

Hi I know it's nothing to do with this video but how much dose a game shoot cose I have just invested in my shot gun license a will be wanting to go on a game shoot.

@grantloop9221 23 дня назад

They have a problem cycling 3" magnum slugs and buckshot, the scraggly plastic gets hung up in the ejection port. There were no plastic shotgun shells when these guns were designed and made but they do love 2 3/4" Winchester PDX Defenders.

@aprilgalbraith5421 2 года назад

Wow thats just like the model 12 winchester

@matt7220 2 года назад

Love this! Excellent video as usual ! Cheers !

@NoneYaBidness762 2 года назад

I’ve got an 1897. Neat shotgun.

@joetruth5924 2 года назад

Great video John. Would love to see one on the Winchester Model 12.

@twinpotracer 2 года назад

Bloody interesting, that.

@The_Young_Aristocrat 2 года назад

You need to review a L. C. Smith which was America’s Purdey, Boss, or Holland and Holland which ever is what you think is the best shotgun maker is.

@grannypanties4214 2 года назад

I love American guns but to compare an L.C. Smith to a Purdey or H&H is a bit much. I’ve handled LC Smith’s of many grades but quality of the fit, finish, lockwork etc just isn’t on the same level as a London best. It’s not that the American guns are bad, they’re just as good as many English guns and kill birds just as dead, but the top end English guns are just on their own level.

@The_Young_Aristocrat 2 года назад

@@grannypanties4214 I meant it to be that L. C. Smith was the best sidelock shotgun makers in America.

@theashbys8863 2 года назад

Cheers Jonny needed this vid today

@tgsoutdoors 2 года назад

Hope all is well

@theashbys8863 2 года назад

Cheers mate all is well

@zatszats 2 года назад

Pump actions... Next stop: Baikals...

@tgsoutdoors 2 года назад

Baikals are Cancelled

@zatszats 2 года назад

@@tgsoutdoors Yes, I agree. But ARs are freely sold so that every american wacko can kill his classmates. Guns are guns, no matter where they are built.

@NoneYaBidness762 2 года назад

@@zatszats freedom is scary. Doesn’t sound like you’d know about that.

@zatszats 2 года назад

@@NoneYaBidness762 If freedom means the "right to bear arms", no, I don't have the slightest idea.

@NoneYaBidness762 2 года назад

@@zatszats It should and it does.

@iankelley7574 2 года назад

This shotgun might be worth restoring to its original beauty.

@traviscochran6280 2 года назад

I know an elderly farmer who has one and uses it to shoot pests on his land. He has also been known to shoot an occasional pheasant or even deer with it. I don't think he even owns another gun.