The One-Eyed Celtic ODIN (Response to @FortressofLugh) 

This is the second of two responses to Fortress of Lugh, on two crucial and connected topics. He refuses to engage in discussion with me on these topics, and seems to consider himself above such discussion. But such a big channel getting these basic things wrong and doubling down when critiqued requires a response. *Note: I have also added one important correction in the video description, as I misspoke on the subject of Oscar.

I was convinced at first by the Lugh = Woden hypothesis, but the myth parellels you point out here have informed me otherwise. From the depth of research here, I can well see the root Celtic Heathen revival. A good cup of mead ought to be raised to Lord Fionn

Very impressive response. Thorough research

While I have not listened to this one yet, I found his Odin video disappointing. A lot of reaching and some rather obvious angles and elements missing, and I think it ended up giving an errant overall impression of Odin for it.

Tyr is my choice for danish deities. Lugh for keltoi. Ironic. Well maybe not, maybe I just picked up they're the same.

Very good video!❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥

Makes sense to me. I initially liked the Lugh = Odin equivalence but their positions in their respective pantheons didn't reinforce it. There's said to be a triad of brother's in Lugh, Ogma & Dagda and it can be compared to Odin, Vili & Ve (or Odin, Lodurr & Hoenir) but even in that comparison I'd be more inclined to equate Odin with Dagda as they are both father figures in cloaks and maybe more commonalities but nothing overwhelming.

Also as a Scot today I would pronounce Wotan with an F sound replacing the W if I was talking in the Scots language so Fintan is pretty close to W(F)otan and there are a few places around the UK with the name “Findon” or various subtlely different spellings.

Amazing 🎉

Odin always struck me as having a lot more in common with the Dagda. Are they both not just basically masters of every possible art just like the Greek Hermes? Though not sure what stories they share in common as I am an absolute novice at Celtic mythology.

Odin is all the Gods at end of his life cycle. The other Gods are him in different ages and the stories refflects the outcome from following his left or right version "good and bad" Finn is the same regarding the celtic male gods. Finn is the Finnish line of one souls many travels ;)

I thought Cian was aking to Pushan, and that he, for some reason, is the one who recovers the magical cow and sleeps with Éithne; now, in the beginning of the video you pointed out Finn McKinneley is equal to Fionn. Am I missing something? By the way, Mars doesn't count as the One-Eyed God of the romans, right? He's more akin to Indra/Arjuna, Fearghus/Tuireann, right? Because, there seems to be one character during the monarchical period of Rome who defended the city from the etruscans, and his name was Horatio Cocles, and, supposedely, Cocles means "One-Eyed", since he, technically, has one eye shut, probably because of a wound.

Odin is more closely related to Nuberu and Taranis if anything like the celtic all father right Nuberu being a god with a missing eye but it's foggy from there just similarities

The same writer [Max Muller] says, ‘God was most likely an old heathen name of the Deity.’ Now we are acquainted with the old heathen names of the Deity among the northern peoples who make use of this word; and the nearest to it of these names is that of the Lombard and Westphalia Guodan. In the Germanic languages, the name appears in such forms as to show either that the initial g is not an essential part of the root, or that it marks the original presence of a letter similar to the Hebrew letter which might be retained as a broad vowel, a simple breathing, or a guttural. I hold to the latter opinion, and find the rendering by the broad vowel in Odin, Oden of the Scandinavian. connects Gwydion, son of Don, of the Welsh mythology, with Odin, making them the same person. It is hard to distinguish this personage from Aeddon, who is Buddwas, and who came from the region of Gwydion. Aeddon presents us with the same form of the root as Odin, while Gwydion is guttural, like Guodan. The prefix of the Coptic article to the vowel form would give some such word as Bodan or Boudan; but, with the aspirate, it would make the Maesogothic Vodans and the old Saxon Wuodan or Wodan, which the old High German, strictly in accordance with Grimm’s law, changes to Woutan. Then the final n, which so far has appeared in every form of our word, is an essential part of it. The Frisian Weda drops it, and it is wanting in the Welsh Aedd, in which we see the Danish Gud and the German Gott. Now this is the same as the Choda of the Persian, a language that has many remarkable points of resemblance to the Germanic tongues. The same word is found in the Sanskrit, and survives in the Hindustani Khuda. But the names of Buddha, which are by no means well understood, are simply names for God with the termination restored, not as n, but as m. These are Codam, Godama, or Gautama; and give us back again the Gotan and Goutan of the Teutonic dialects. A link of great importance is furnished by a name of Woden, Wegtam, the Wanderer, which preserves the initial g along with the softened form of the Coptic article, and gives the termination of Gautama. Buddha, different as it appears in every respect from the word with which it is often ignorantly joined, is in reality the same, having doubtless come into the Sanskrit through some other channel then that by which Gautama entered. In it, we find the final liquid wanting, the German w, in plain disregard for Grimm’s law, changed to b, and the Frisian Weda reproduced. In confirmation of this I may refer to the case of identity already established between the Germanic wot or wout and the Sanskrit budh, to perceive or know, of which the Welsh form is by no accidental coincidence gwyddoni. Thus in Buddha, Wotan and Gwydion we find not only the supreme god of the northern families of the Aryan stock, but also the symbol of knowledge among those different peoples.” Others, such as Professor George Faber, suggested even a broader spread of the Buddha’s name and suggests that the Cuthites were Buddhists who returned home with the Jews after their Babylonian exile; “In short, Cadmus, [also known as Etam] or Buddha was venerated from the extremity of Siam to the remote western isle of Ireland; for the Codom of Pegu, the Gautam of Ceylon, the Cadam of Phoenicia and Egypt, the Cadmus and Cadmilus of Boetia and Samothrace, and the Chadmel of the ancient Irish, were all one and the same character. I might mention various other places, where Cadmus was thought to have come in the course of his wanderings, such as Rhodes, Thera, Thasus, Eubea, Sparta, Attica, Lesbos, and Ionia: but I must not neglect to observe, that, while some bring him from Egypt or Phoenicia; others, preserving genuine tradition with greater accuracy, represent him as coming from Babylonia, the region whence also in their progress westward, the Phoenicians or Pali migrated into Palestine. This was the seat of the first empire of the Chasas or Cuthites under Nimrod, the centre whence the two primeval superstitions branched off in every direction. Here the worship of Cadam or Buddha commenced: and, in each country where they afterwards settled, the enterprising Shepherds of the Scuthic stock were always peculiarly devoted

It's great to have this very clear overview, since from what little I understood about Efnysien I hadn't picked up on how neatly he fits into the Rudraic pattern so far

That Oscar, death of Odin, Fenrir one is confusing. 11:18 OK, you got to it again. (This makes me think of Roman Mithras, though, with his knee up, stabbing the bull. I read one version which said Gilgamesh held the bull of Heaven so Enkidu could kill him. So many bits and pieces.) I'm thinking with the salmon eating nuts this maybe comes from a myth where god is killed and a tree grows from his buried body and the nuts from the tree become a mainstay food for the humans left with no god to benefit them.

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Isn’t it Loki, and not Odin, who transforms into a fish?

I would like to see some citations please! I would think it to be common practice. You present much, but it is on you to have substantiating sources. Not trying to discredit you, but it is in your own interest to have detailed references! Edit: I am not only deadass, but a dumbass too

if you know astrology you will work this out very quickly.

Im waiting for someone to correct and debunk you

A particular Buddhist word for “a vow” is “Sam-vara,” also spelled Zam-bara. This was also a word for “mistletoe”141and so we have an obvious connection to Odin’s mistletoe, or that legend which has formed around his son Balder. Furthermore the mistletoe associated with Odin also has its parallels with the Buddhist vine (elambaraka) that strangles trees, but was probably lifted from the Samghabhedavastu with its account of the Buddha’s son eating an aphrodisiac. Also the winter solstice was observed and celebrated around a sacred tree, by the earliest followers of Odin, and later the followers of Jesus, and this stems from the same tradition that assigned the Buddha’s birth to the time of year when the sun retires141 and the brand of Buddhism propagated by Asoka in which the Bodhi tree of the Buddhists was decked with jewels and even a type of tinsel surrounded by a red circle which survives in many Christmas traditions as a red skirt under Christmas trees. A Pali birth account of the Buddha’s birth mentions that he was placed on a special red cloth. Secondhand accounts state that Asoka, when visiting the sacred Bodhi tree, had a red circle drawn around it where he ceremoniously entered with a golden pot to catch a fallen limb from the tree. From what I am able to ascertain from several sources, the white horses of Scandinavia have been shown to be genetically related to white horses found throughout the Himalayas. There are several unique traits shared between these white horses, their legs with black rings, similar to zebra legs, and a black line down the spine, both of these are assigned to Odin’s and the Buddha’s horse. Regarding the ravens, as it has been suggested by others, it seems that ravens are often depicted around Odin and his white horse to signify his journey from the western region of the Himalayan span, precisely where the Goths dwelt. Other legends show Odin was often followed by a magical duck, which reminds me of a Buddhist goddess which shares its name with a duck (Kakavakta).Also noteworthy is that they are both said to have a face like a crow, which is the same as a raven, and also the Buddha was said to have nursed a duck when he was a child. It has been reported by several authors that at the foothills of the Himalayan span, and throughout Central Asia, ravens are known to attach themselves to caravans crossing expansive plains, and as these travelers used the ravens as a guide,141 we could suggest an eastern origin to both the Goths and their Odin. Although Odin’s ravens appear later as messengers, it seems quite likely that Odin’s ravens originally served to represent a similar relationship as I just mentioned, also taking into account that there appears to be no such relationship between caravans and ravens in Europe. It is believed that people would not weed their gardens on Woden’s-day (which was deis Mercury to the Romans [their Wednesday] and Budavar to the Indians), for the fear that Odin’s horse might trample on the unprotected seed. Although not limited to a particular day, the Buddhist texts explain similar rules in regards to monks traveling and how they should spread their weight, among other tactics allowing them to protect seed141.Also, there is possible allegory because the Buddha’s white horse was a symbol of him entering “the path” (“marga”) which would bring to fruition his bodhiseed just as Odin’s horse, who was also said to be light on his feet, was said to carry him off to victory. One legend mentions that Odin lent his horse to Hermod (Buddhist version of Hermes) to jump obstacles leading to the Land of the Dead, which is similar to when the Buddha’s horse jumped a river in the Buddha’s search for the deathless141.The name of Odin’s horse, Sleipnir, which means “slipping out,” comes quite close to the meaning behind the name of the Buddha’s horse Kanthaka, which means “desiring (“aka”) to go” (“kant”)141.Also Odin’s horse is said to have eight-legs, while the Buddha’s horse is famous for having been carried out of a castle by the divinities on eight legs141.Although the Buddha’s horse is named Kanthaka, in general he was a jewel-horse or “Assa (“horse”)-ratanam,” and so this naturally raises the question at what point in Europe the beast of burden was known as an ass. The Sanskrit for the “Pali Assa” is “Asva,” a word associated with the Horse sacrifice paralleled throughout many of the world’s ancient traditions, but if this sacrificial ritual was the channel of transmission, we should be able to account for the Sanskrit V missing in the Pali and European languages. Also in question is the word “mane” and although Odin’s horse is later grey, he is first proved to be white141 with a black mane, just as the Buddhist Assa-ratanam. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. The earliest usage of the Teutonic Odin (Woden) suggests that it is precisely equal to Sanskrit “budh” which means “a mind awake” or vigilant. But as Odin was also known as a wanderer, just as Godama, we may at least theorize, among other Buddhist roots, the Pali word for wanderer, “addha,” in the name Odin. In very early legends, Odin is believed to have plucked out his eye because it was an impediment to enlightenment, and although this is also seen in the words attributed to Jesus, this exact circumstance was first said of a Buddhist monk. I think the previous is obvious reference to abandoning the worldly-eye for the wisdom-eye or what Asoka calls, “cakhu dane” or “giving eye.” Also, although I don’t believe it to be the case, it should at least be suggested that Odin, or Guthan, was known as “half-eyes” (Gothic “ha-ils”) meaning his eye lids usually covered half of his eyes as it was said of the Buddha. A reoccurring setting in both Buddhist fables and legends regarding Odin is a path leading to a tree with a pond or spring at the base. It is extremely difficult to explain the setting as it pertains to Odin due to the massive revisionism, and more importantly the book burnings of early Christianity in which Odin was demonized. And with this in mind I am more than a little skeptical when I read that children were sacrificed to please Odin. One legend states that Odin would stand under the corpses of people in order to obtain knowledge of where they had gone. A similar scene is found regarding the Buddha meditating at a cemetery. It was believed that at the creation of the universe, Odin was one of three divinities, the others being symbolically his brothers Vil, and Vella. As Vil means “will” and Vella means “action,” and since we have seen Odin equals “budh,” the root to Buddha, we have a resemblance to the Buddhist trinity of the Buddha, Dharma, and Sangha. Furthermore, the German “vel” and “vil” also show themselves in Buddhist words but I also associate these characters with a Scythian branch known as the Bala who were probably the same as the Kushans. Anthropologists point to a change in ancient Scandinavian funeral ceremonies, mainly the former being the body of the deceased placed in the earth, compared to the latter change of the deceased being set on fire and reduced to ashes. Although this is not exclusively Buddhist, it is indeed Asiatic. Herodotus mentions this latter custom practiced by the Goths as coming from Sakadwippa, or the eastern Scythians, the Sakas; he writes, “Where the Geta (Getae) was consumed alive on the pyre

Sól/Sunna is Viking/German sun god, Lugh Celtic. Odin is not Sól. Therefore Odin cannot be Lugh. Modus tollens.

All of these mythic tails are from sages trying to explain the process of what happens in you to your ego when you get taken into the void for your 30-minute silence in heaven. You and your creators, you speak with the one who sits in the fear chair inside, letting you, the Dear Man run a muck. I see what they all mean, I could not explain the experience any other more poetic way . A hard kundalini awakening to Buda Satfa , perhaps ?

Anglo saxon- woden: equivalent to mercury, Odin,- patron of rulers, king of the gods, enchanter ( magic) , sacrificed himself for wisdom, cough , cough, Odin's eye, cough,. He also made idols that could come to life , he had horns and hammer ... when you read the entire worlds mythology and creation story , you'll see it's all copy's of each other as the bible does with previous civilizations.. the Greeks, Roman's, and Egyptians all agreed they had the same gods , imagine if the languages wasn't changed during the tower of babel . How convenient 🤨 we would have world peace ✌️ ❤

lol, what? Of course the myths exist. Lugh killed one eyed Balor. Lugus in Gaul closes one eye to see the future. Both have a Speer. Lugh is the master of all arts, Odin is the all father. Cu Chullain is the personification of Lugh, and he has the warp spasm, the Speer, the frenzy rage, one eye that pops out of his head when in the riastead. Lugh even leads the Tuath De Dannan as a young boy, and cu Chulainn becomes a ‘hound’ when a young boy. You're way off here, sorry. It’s not that Finn doesn’t match but he’s not the worshipped god that Lugh is he’s. He’s just local legend, not part of the Celtic religion as a whole.