The ONE hi-fi device to rule them all! EverSolo DMP-A8 review

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A review of the EverSolo DMP-A8 streamer, DAC, pre-amp and DSP device. Review includes comparison vs EverSolo DMP-A6, testing the DAC stage vs the Geshelli Labs J2S AK4499EX, testing the pre-amp vs the Geshelli Labs A3 Pro, and discussion of all the DSP controls available.
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00:00 Introduction
00:34 Price & features
05:42 Device tour
07:51 Active output options
10:38 Sound quality
11:16 Streaming test
13:58 DMP-A8 DAC test
17:08 DMP-A8 pre-amp test
20:13 DMP-A8 strengths
21:12 DSP features
28:46 Final conclusions
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@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

Since the recording of this review, firmware v1.2.50 has been released and now allows for adjustment of the parametric EQ frequencies so you can customise to your heart's content. Enjoy!

@hushpuppykl 7 месяцев назад

How many bands? 5? Does it include the Q value?

@mfisher702 6 месяцев назад

10 band PEQ with adj fq points and Q value adj.

@PassionforSound 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for replying here and apologies that I didn't see the original comment!

@jmp622 4 месяца назад

What is needed to upgrade firmware?

@gregniemann756 7 месяцев назад

I was watching another audio file person, found you! You definitely went into the depths that’s what I want to know. I appreciate this, others don’t get inside. Thank you.

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

My pleasure. I'm so glad you found my review useful. Thanks for letting me know!

@DustinDonohue 6 месяцев назад

Does your audio file friend offer downloads?

@jw112mail 7 месяцев назад

I just want to take a moment and thank you for your quality content. It is much appreciated!

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

My pleasure! I'm glad you like it. 🙂

@EricBurbeck 7 месяцев назад

Incredibly informative and polished review. Thank you so much!

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

My pleasure. I'm glad you liked it!

@richardf2209 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for the great & thorough review of the A8. You definitely have me thinking more about a purchase. I also wanted to put in a request for a "how to" video on producing your own convolution filters. Lastly, I am a big fan of your reviews. You seem to listen for and value many of the same things I do when listening to and enjoying music. I watched your short video on reviewers and their acceptance or rejection of equipment and/or money before this video. For me, it really gave me much more insight on your approach to reviewing and showed a side of you as a reviewer that is not often seen from other audio reviewers. It was truly refreshing and added substantially more credibility, honesty, and gravitas to you as a reviewer and your reviews, as well. Thank you for your excellent reviews. They have really helped me on my audio journey.

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

Thanks so much for the feedback! I've scheduled a convolution (and EQ) filter for January and begun researching it. 🙂

@ketubeck7718 7 месяцев назад

Great review!!!!! Very informative and easy to understand great 👍👍

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

I'm so glad that you liked it!

@matthewhilty4209 7 месяцев назад

Yes ! Please show us a guide on convolution filters.

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for letting me know. I'll schedule something in for January.

@doifeellucky 7 месяцев назад

@@PassionforSoundThanks. Great insight on the DSP and also your comparison with the Geshelli gear.

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

My pleasure!

@obudaifourty9 7 месяцев назад

Finally, not just another 'glowing', but an honest not run-of-the-mill review. Thumb up and thanks 🙂

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

I'm glad you liked the review.

@mjmonjure 5 месяцев назад

Yes, please do a detailed walk through of the the DSP and/or convolution filters🤗

@PassionforSound 5 месяцев назад

Here you go: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UYwDTdnWs78.htmlsi=zXidE1oG0zfPZuNa

@drivingdan55 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for another great review. I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge. I am very interested in how to make FIR filters. I'm ordering a Umic-1 now.

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

Glad you liked it! I've scheduled a convolution filter/FIR video for January. 🙂

@aceofspades6667 7 месяцев назад

Fantastic review lanchlan you pretty much covered all of the bases and questions that I had on the onset. You gave it a pretty balanced assessment on functionality and performance. I would lean toward the separates route and personally would choose a stand alone pre amp for my 2 channel and headphone chains. A solid pre amp is a great investment and makes everything in the chain better.

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

Glad I covered everything needed, Ace! I'm a hug fan of the A8 and it's the centre of my office setup now, but I also agree with the appeal of separates.

@rm-mastering 7 месяцев назад

Great video and very extensive description of the features. I own the RME ADI 2 pro for the shear fact of DSP functionality as I require something portable with extensive configarability for my work, ok DMP A8 is biased for home audio but yes the DSP is the game changer for me on room correction alone. Thank you very much indeed for your honesty and opinions.

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

My pleasure! I'm glad you liked the review.

@mfisher702 7 месяцев назад

Excited to soak up your pending video on FIR and filters. I need this. Thanks.

@PassionforSound 6 месяцев назад

I've opened a big can of worms for myself to sift through and research on this one. Buckle up! 😂

@mfisher702 6 месяцев назад

Sorry for being impatient. Quick peek looks like plug miniDSP UMIK-1 into REW. Select it as input source. Upload mic calibration file. Position mic at left ear position and run a measurement with long 20 / 20K sweep. Save output file as Left.wav then repeat for right. Then import those files in the A-8 FIR menu? I guess this will give the A-8 the basis to create a filter that's "opposite" of the measurement to theoretically reach a flat response? Thanks for entertaining all of our eager replies.@@PassionforSound

@PassionforSound 6 месяцев назад

That's the basics of it, yes. The problem I've found with that though is that it's killing the imaging on my Harbeths. Any frequency response adjustment also risks producing timing/phase issues too and I think thats the problem, but I have to do more testing to get it right and be sure of what's going wrong.

@mfisher702 6 месяцев назад

Great. Thanks.@@PassionforSound

@rockman22 6 месяцев назад

Also, I absolutely love that there is a loudness feature. For metal music, getting the v shape in the sound is really important to me, its what I would be trying to do with the PEQ anyway so thats really awesome that its included, with 4 intensity levels to boot. This box is on my very short list for a future upgrade.

@PassionforSound 6 месяцев назад

That's great to hear from someone who finds the loudness feature useful. I figured there would be certain situations where it is valuable so now I know. Thanks!

@lukedodd3580 3 месяца назад

Thanks for the review, I love my DMP A8 as someone getting back into digital, and upgrading from CD transport and old Weiss DAC2. The A8 is giving me plenty of options to test and learn, whilst producing very nice sound, whilst it may not be the best preamp, coupled with my McCormack DNA 500 power amp, Whatmough and BW 804 speakers gives me plenty to experiment with. Would love to see you produce a video on DSP.

@PassionforSound 3 месяца назад

It doesn't cover all of the DSP settings, but try this: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UYwDTdnWs78.htmlsi=um53UGsVAG7nUZX9

@edbrumbaugh9202 6 месяцев назад

Great review, thank you. Just ordered (preorder) the A8 yesterday. I would be interested in a video on working with the various aspects of the DSP capabilities in the A8. Thanks again.

@PassionforSound 6 месяцев назад

I've got a video coming about how to setup a FIR filter or EQ, but I'll probably stop there on this one. Too many product reviews to get through!

@alextruong3001 4 месяца назад

Thank you for reviewing Eversolo A8. I have A6 and am thinking of switching to A8

@PassionforSound 4 месяца назад

Depending on what you need, it can be a nice upgrade. If you're only looking for better sound quality, an external DAC can get you even better gains if you don't mind an extra device in your stack.

@HeavenReservation 11 дней назад

I have one in the living room. Its really amazing, the quality is so clean!

@madds6678 7 месяцев назад

Excellent review I was looking forward to the A8 review as whether to upgrade my A6 master edition the DSP function certainly has me interested but for the moment I’ll keep enjoying the A6 & wait to see if a master edition comes out of the A8.

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

I would be surprised if we see a Master Edition of the A8 because I have a feeling they've adopted the same components in the A8 as were used in the A6 Master. That said, unless you need the DSP, the jump in price doesn't equate to the jump in performance IMO.

@davidhardaker192 7 месяцев назад

@@PassionforSound That's what I call an honest unbiased opinion - thanks

@joseadan5024 7 месяцев назад

Best answer of the year!!!@@PassionforSound

@kafkaworkshere 7 месяцев назад

Stellar review! I own the A6, which I'm only using as a streamer with a phone-sized display and a decent remote control via my smartphone. I running it with the Qutest/SBooster and Wandla as alternative DACs and then the Ferrum Oor/Hypsos amp and power supply. If I upgrade to the A8, it will be to get an upgraded streamer and DSP.

@PassionforSound 6 месяцев назад

Yep. The A6 is brilliant already for your setup.

@trun1979 6 месяцев назад

How do you rate it as DAC vs the Wandla?

@kafkaworkshere 6 месяцев назад

@@trun1979 I don't yet have an answer. I bought the A6 and the A8 to compare the two against each other, as well as to compare their DACs against the Qutest and the Wandla. A/Bing is clumsy, clunky affair. I can tell you that the streamer sounds great. Running it, in pass-through mode, it's really impressive. Both the Qutest and the Wandla were as clear and detailed as I've ever heard them, with fresh artifacts popping out from songs I'd heard for decades. My intent was simply to use one of these devices as a streamer and keep my Qutest and Wandla as external DACs. Considering the Qutest to cost 3X the A6 and the Wandla to cost a thousand more than the A8, all I wanted was the best streamer I could get for less than the price of the HiFi Rose. I also couldn't resist that 6 inch display. The A8 is reputed to have a better DAC because of its AKM chips, though it doesn't hurt that it also comes packed with dual Femto clocks and a hybrid PSU. I started listening to it first and it's incredible. Going back to the A6 (to listen to its DAC) just happened. I'm barely into it even as we speak. All I can say, a few tracks in, is that I'm surprised and dazzled. I don't yet hear anything disappointing. I'm not yet hearing the step down I should be hearing from the lesser sibling in EverSolo's pair of integrated streamer/DAC/amplifier combos.

@davidp3096 2 месяца назад

Just upgraded my DMP-A6 master edition with this a teddy pardo outboard linear power supply. No more brightness, more bass weight. Strongly recommend it.

@PassionforSound 2 месяца назад

Thanks for sharing the suggestion

@matthewhilty4209 7 месяцев назад

Wow what a insane do it all preamp. I am tempted to replace my old parasound P6 in my secondary setup with this to reduce the clutter of multiple boxes.

@balooo2863 7 месяцев назад

I have the A23+ and shopping a P6 but lately the used market for any P series Parasound has gone bonkers pricey. I’m using a Sonos second gen connect into a Smsl SU-9 into the A23+ fantastic matching. Always wondered if the P6 would be an improvement🤔

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

Yes, the DMP-A8 is a very capable, single box solution that also sounds brilliant.

6 месяцев назад

I would absolutely love to see a video where you would take us through the proper use of DSP to set-up speakers. I'm really thinking of buying this unit to connect to my powered speakers, and the DSP function is clearly a USP for me thanks!!!

@PassionforSound 6 месяцев назад

It's on the way. Stay tuned towards the end of January 🙂

@eric-johannes 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for your honest and balanced review of the A8! Very well done! I own the A6 ME and use my external Musical Fidelity MX-DAC (which imho still sounds better than the internal ME DAC solution). As I suspected, there won't be any advantage in buying an A8 when using it as a streamer only (using USB and thereby bypassing the internal DAC clock chips).

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

Correct! 🙂🙂

@QQ-td9id 7 месяцев назад

Look inside of them. IF you notice they have similar but Different PS modules then it is too quick to say they sound exactly the same without quantitative SNR, distortion etc. measurements to confirm that. For me, I am buying them to test them as streamer of my 10TB local music lib comparing to using JRiver (which can do professional DSP functions with support of any VST plug-in like emulating tube tones, so far found no streamer on the market can do so) on PC with multiple layers of reclocking, galvanic isolation to external DAC.

@eric-johannes 7 месяцев назад

I'd gladly be proven wrong of course! That would mean it is worthwile to upgrade. Let the comparing and testing begin 😂

@alvidrez7956 7 месяцев назад

That's what I'm wondering . I have a schitt bifrost 2 and I like the way r2r dacs sound so not worried about the internal dac of the a8 unless it's better than what i have

@PassionforSound 6 месяцев назад

I'd take the Bifrost 2/64 over the DMP-A8 DAC stage.

@jacobpaternostro9109 2 месяца назад

Thank you for the excellent review. Another review of the a8, I believe from the British Audiophile, says a preamp was needed for better sound. Wondering your thoughts on that and if you have suggestions for a good power amp (or preamp + power amp or integrated amp) to pair with Eversolo.

@PassionforSound 2 месяца назад

I don't do a lot of speaker listening and have higher quality preamps already so I haven't properly tested the preamp on this. I do believe he is correct though. The only integrated amps I can suggest from experience are the Enleum AMP-23R and Linear Tube Audio MZ3, but both are a bit unique and won't suit everyone. Alternatively, a few of the headphone amps I've reviewed are also very good preamps (Burson Soloist GT or Voyager, etc.) but I'm not sure if you also need a headphone amp.

@epi2045 7 месяцев назад

I have a custom tube preamp, dedicated NuPrime DAC, and Wiim Pro streamer. Three boxes which I don’t mind but I do like this since it checks all the boxes including balanced pre-amp. One unit going into my Mark Levinson amp is tempting.

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

That's what I love about it too!

@miguelsilvestri 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for the great review. Any thoughts on further comparisons vs the A6 with the LHY LPS-A6 Linear Power Supply upgrade? Sounds like that might be the way to go when paired with the Geshelli J2S AK4499 to clearly surpass the A8 at a cheaper price.

@PassionforSound 6 месяцев назад

I don't plan to test the power supply for the A6 because I've got too much other gear to get to, but it would likely be a nice addition

@user-sm3cp8wo5q 6 месяцев назад

Nice reviews - good job ! I would like to know if the A8 sounds better than RME dac or Cambridge Audio CNX ... thanks

@PassionforSound 6 месяцев назад

That's an interesting question and one I can't answer. What I can say is that the 4499EX chip used in the A8 has been preferable to me over any other chip-based DAC I've tried so far. In other words, if those are built around other chips, the A8 is likely better.

@SmokeyMesa 7 месяцев назад

The DSP stuff sounds awesome. While I could see something like this helping streamline my system, it would be nice if they included a sub out with the DSP feature.

@StephenMcGregor1986 7 месяцев назад

Maybe something like an Anthem MRX 1140 might be a better fit for you? An AIO solution with all the things. Effective tuning that's easy for most general home users to get use from. Or are you using studio gear?

@balooo2863 7 месяцев назад

@@StephenMcGregor1986 I was thinking the same thing. I own a Anthen MRX 540 (intended pairing) and think I already have state of the art room correction etc with ARC so the main feature being DSP with the DMP-A8 is kinda useless for me. The more I dig into this unit it is becoming apparent this is "probably" a decent preamp but as a superior streamer/dac its just above entry level which is not what I need for this price. To hear Passion for sound state the Gresseli JNOG with the latest AKM and op amp upgrade has a better sounding dac gave me pause. Another reveiwer states the latest sub $600 Gustard varient sounds better too. This DMP A8 release is turning into real Sh*t show marketing gone off the rails. A6 owners are pissed,the reviewers are calling each other out, 2 reviewers say its the best thing they ever heard under 3K ,2 reviewers say its only true value is as an all in one box and the Sound Quality is meh and you can do better for less $$$. and now this thread. This is not what I was expecting. I am going cancel my pre order I'm not convinced the DMP A8 is what I was hoping for sadly.

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

I wouldn't go so far as saying the sound quality is meh. I think it sounds wonderful. I just think people need to have fair and reasonable expectations. I also agree that a dedicated subwoofer output would have made sense and to then tie the HPF/LPF to specific outputs which I don't think I saw an option for (but I didn't dive super deep on that)

@Pete.across.the.street 7 месяцев назад

Yes, dsp video please🎉🎉🎉

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

Done. Scheduled in January 🙂

@PepeLorus 4 месяца назад

Excellentes explications, je vous remercie !

@PassionforSound 4 месяца назад

I'm glad it was helpful for you!

@PepeLorus 3 месяца назад

@@PassionforSound, j’ai une question : y a t il une fonction Balance sur cet appareil ? J’ai une paire de Martin Logan ancienne et un panneau sonne moins fort que l’autre Je pourrais éventuellement rattraper cela avec une Balance Encore Merci pour votre très bon travail

@minimaann 7 месяцев назад

Will be good with a guide on convolution filters from the A8 - will like to see how good it is vs the minidsp with dirac live.

@Struds89 7 месяцев назад

Yes, a guide for how to compensate for room modes would be great. If there also is a comparison with dirac, then it would be fantastic!

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

I can't promise a Dirac comparison, but a basic tutorial on creating FIRs for the DMP-A8 (or Roon) I can do. I've scheduled it for January.

@rizalahmad4207 7 месяцев назад

@@PassionforSound oh can’t wait 🤗

@drkenl5727 7 месяцев назад

I am making my own deconvolution filters (with help from the Obsessive Compulsive Audiophile on RU-vid) for the Roon DSP engine and it has greatly enhanced the sound quality of my systems. I would love to see your process for making filters! 👍

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

Sure thing. I'll check out the OCA video too in case I can learn a bit more about it (I suspect I can)

@petercrook1111 7 месяцев назад

I also have a Chord DAC, and I tried the DMP-A6, but chose to return it due to among other things the inflexible way of choosing outputs. On the A8, would it be possible to "loop in" the Chord as the DAC? Meaning using one of the digital outputs "always on" but the sending the Chord balanced output back into the A8 and using the preamp there? I also have a turmtable, so I would need both analog inputs. If this was possible I could replace my current preamp... (Sorry, I almost confused myself there...)

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

Haha. Yes, that's a little circuitous! All good though, I understand. Unfortunately, there's no way to make that work with the DMP-A8. ☹️

@MrWindmad 7 месяцев назад

Great review and information! I would love to know how it compares to the new Marantz CD50n in terms of sound quality

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

Glad you liked the review. I haven't tried the Marantz so I can't help with that - sorry!

@StephenMcGregor1986 7 месяцев назад

I would love to learn all about convolution/FIR filters

@user-bp4om4fv5k 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for the detailed review! You are clearly very knowledgable in the technical aspects of the music world as well. I have a Lumin T2 which I use to stream Tidal and use its XLR outputs (internal DAC) into my McIntosh preamp. I'm wondering if the A6 (XLR out) will use its internal DAC and is a suitable replacement for my Lumin. Or is the A8 with its internal DAC a better replacement in my case? Or are the A6 and A8 comparable while using XLR out? Thanks once again.

@PassionforSound 6 месяцев назад

The A8 has the better DAC so it will outperform the A6 if you're using the XLR outputs. That would be my recommendation.

@user-bp4om4fv5k 6 месяцев назад

Thanks you.@@PassionforSound

@bristolwoodburners81 6 месяцев назад

I found the T2 more analogue/smooth sounding when i demeod bs the a6 (which i found to have a more brittle/digital presentation).

@rulbertremy8722 7 месяцев назад

Hi, Good review and advice! Which external cd drive would you recommend to play with DMP-A6

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

I'm not familiar with all the options available. I have a Pioneer USB CD/DVD/Blu-ray (I think?) drive

@richardsaila8073 7 месяцев назад

I would be interested in an A6+ w/o DAC but with high end power supply, with this A8 DSP features and additionally full D2D functionality incl. all digital inputs and outputs. No DAC, no preamp.

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

I think you're not alone in that wish. Let's see if EverSolo have anything else up their sleeve... (That's not a hint - I have no idea)

@xray111xxx 7 месяцев назад

In a one for all, the A8 is an awesome choice. But the A6 is what more are going to buy I suspect. Eversolo is all about home runs, and look out, there is more coming. Color me impressed with this company.

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

I agree. They have clearly put together an excellent design team.

@robintaylor1296 7 месяцев назад

Would definitely like to see the video on using filters etc. This is something that just doesn't get looked at enough. Its just accepted that we all know everything. 😂

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

Done. It's scheduled for January. 🙂

@pavkoslawko5647 7 месяцев назад

Would be great if you can share more insights on: 1. How do you connect Umik 1 microphone and how calibration is done in Ecersolo dmp-a8. 2. Can active subwoofer be pluged via rca at the same time as stereo amp via xlr?

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

The Umik 1 explanation will come up in my convolution filter video, but you need a separate computer for that part (i.e. you don't connect it to the DMP-A8) As for the active sub, yes, both the XLR and RCA can operate at the same time so you can definitely do that.

@SpaceEncounter 7 месяцев назад

For using REW, you need to connect the mic to the PC and the PC to the DMP-A8.

@lislotus 7 месяцев назад

Could I record the Analog Input pair (L/R) with a computer using USB Digital Output? I write some music and need a audio interface. I'd like to know if the SMP-8 could be my streamer, also my audio interface.

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

No, the analog inputs only go through the volume state and out of the analog outputs only.

@NeilLavitt 7 месяцев назад

Could you use the RCA analogue output to a sub while using the XLR outputs to a power amp?

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

Absolutely! You can choose if both outputs are used at the same time.

@SuperDTomAs 6 месяцев назад

Hello. Today I received my Eversolo DMP-A6. I first had to set the country and time and then do an update. During the update the screen went black. Since then it is black and it says Eversolo in the middle. The light ring on the rotary knob flashes off and on quite slowly. I can't change anything about it. Can you possibly help me?

@PassionforSound 6 месяцев назад

I'm sorry to hear that. I'm not able to provide tech support. Please contact your retailer or EverSolo.

@TheRorij 7 месяцев назад

I am looking for a streamer/dac and am waiting for the DMP-A8 to hit the stores. But up till now I was more aiming for the 3000,- range (with the Auralic altair g1.1, Atoll ST300 or the Naim ND5 XS2). Would the DMP-A8 come close to these or are the 3 mentioned (and other in the 3000,- range) in another league?

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

I can't compare directly to those as yet, but based on my testing, it probably comes down to whether you need a dedicated streamer or whether you want the built-in DAC, DSP and pre-amp. My test with the DMP-A6 and J2S DAC showed that you might as well just get the DMP-A6 if you're looking for just a streamer. I've got the new Lumin D3 coming in for review soon so hopefully that will give me a good point of comparison to see how a dedicated streamer compares against these do-it-all boxes.

@mohamedahmed1023 3 месяца назад

Can specific parametric EQs be run for each individual output? As in a a high pass filter for the L&R balanced outputs going to the speakers but a low pass filter for the L&R unbalanced outputs going to the sub(s)?

@PassionforSound 3 месяца назад

No, unfortunately not. It's one set of DSP settings across all inputs and outputs. ☹️

@24imtiyaz 7 месяцев назад

The review to me seems extremely honest. Very detailed review of each aspect of dmp A8.I would like to request you to put Volumio Rivo on your list for detailed review. Thanks

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

I'm glad you feel that way. I'll see what I can arrange with Volumio. 🙂

@ranig2268 3 месяца назад

Thanks for the great review. I have a Musical Fidelity M5Si going into B&W 704 S2 speakers and wanted to upgrade my digital steamer/DAC from Sonos connect to the Eversolo DMP-A6 but might now save up a bit more for the A8. Would you recommend I also connect my Rotel CD11 player through the Eversolo to take advantage of the DAC?

@ranig2268 3 месяца назад

I’m also curious about the potential lower price and deeper sound stage you mentioned with the combination of the A6 and Geshelli DAC but not sure where I can buy this DAC in Australia

@PassionforSound 3 месяца назад

The A8 is definitely the better DAC compared to the one in the A6 so that's a worthwhile consideration. As for the A6 + Geshelli J2S option, you can buy direct from Geshelli unless you're outside a metro city in Australia. You should see options here on their store for shipping direct: bit.ly/J2SAKM

@ranig2268 3 месяца назад

@@PassionforSoundthanks so much for the response. I’ll definitely look into it. What’s your thoughts on whether I should feed my cd player through the Eversolo DAC rather than direct to my M5Si with rca connections?

@PassionforSound 3 месяца назад

Without knowing the M5Si specifically, I'd probably suggest going direct to that. There's rarely a value in adding a preamp if you already have volume control

@mikegoddard7354 7 месяцев назад

We need a comparison of the a6 master edition with the upgraded power supply vs this to get an idea what's the best value. The power supply looks fairly similar. Power supply from the denafrips distributor Does it have a sub out?

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

I'm afraid it's unlikely I'll be getting a Master Edition in. As a pure streamer, I doubt there'll be any difference. If you're using the DAC though, the 4499EX chips in the A8 are a clear step up from any other current 'off-the-shelf' DAC chip I've heard

@jamesrevell6475 5 месяцев назад

I just want it for the audio visualizer display. Seems like an expensive way to get a spectrum analyzer or vu meters but it's the only option on the market for under $5,000 besides the HiFi Rose. I'm upgrading from my old analog stereo from the 80s and it's been an infuriating shopping experience to find a modern digital hifi system that has a visual display of any sort. I've been shopping for a few years now was almost ready to give up and just keep my old Kenwood 2 channel A/V receiver with EQ, CD player and add some new speakers. Finally I have found a device with digital inputs that I can connect to a newer power amp with newer speakers. It's been about 5 years since I started shopping to upgrade to the new digital age of audio. Finally the industry is bringing back the visualizer. Streaming music is still new to me but the Eversolo is what finally motivated me to take the plunge.

@PassionforSound 5 месяцев назад

The DMP-A6 offers much of the same functionality, including the VU meters, touch screen, etc.

@ratingsdad 7 месяцев назад

This is a great review. Seems very fair. I’m curious if the transport only function of the A8 is a noticeable step up from the A6. I have an A6 with a Denafrips Pontus ii connected via USB. Based on this review, I believe my current setup will be better than this setup but I’d be curious for your thoughts. So many people just want a great streamer and already have high quality DACs.

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

I'd recommend staying with what you have. As the DMP-A6 + Geshelli J2S comparison showed (although I didn't explicitly call it out), the streaming stage via digital output offers no significant benefit of you're using an external DAC.

@jacobpaternostro9109 2 месяца назад

Im debating between the a8 vs a6+denafrips combo. Are you using the preamp from the a6 with your setup or do you use an external preamp and power amp or integrated amp?

@PassionforSound 2 месяца назад

I use either an integrated (Enleum AMP-23R) or pre-amp (Burson Soloist Voyager) and Monoblocks (Burson Timekeeper GT) so I don't use the preamp out from the A6. That said, it's a lossless control at the digital side of things so it's a perfectly good option for a variable output.

@brulevin 7 месяцев назад

There doesn’t seem to be a way to connect a sub either through preamp out or a dedicated sub out. Is this correct or is there a way to do it? TIA.

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

You can connect a sub via RCA and your amp/actives via XLR, but there's no independent volume control for them and I don't think the DSP lets you isolate control by output, but I also didn't dig too deep on that.

@oliverstoys8411 7 месяцев назад

It would be nice if you able to present the actual unit touch operations, any difference with the response compare to the old one. We need a comparison side by side. Your opinion is ok, but i want to see the actual operation.

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

I'm not really clear on what you mean. All of the on-screen footage showed the operations of the device in the clearest way possible (i.e. without my hands in the way)

@brandonseitz8576 6 месяцев назад

Any chance you can test whether the hqplayer dsd output to those akm dac chips makes a difference?

@PassionforSound 6 месяцев назад

I don't use HQ Player anymore so probably not. Sorry! I'd expect it will be the same as most other DACs without a NOS mode in that the sound will still be better.

@fauxnom2945 5 месяцев назад

Yes, would like to learn more about your experience with convolution for response correction.

@PassionforSound 5 месяцев назад

Great! It's already recorded and it's coming soon.

@mfisher702 5 месяцев назад

Was just about to check on this. Eager to see it. Ready to dial in my room. Thanks in advance.

@leach720 7 месяцев назад

I would definitely like a convolution filter walk through video.

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

It's on the way. Scheduled for January.

@jos5067 7 месяцев назад

Very interesting 🧐 and thanks, but for music you still choose the Chord Hugo. So, having the Chord Qutest, I will wait what Chord brings to the table, probably next year at the CES.

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

It's the Hugo TT2 that I use, not the Hugo (although the Hugo and Qutest are excellent). 🙂

@johnh539 3 месяца назад

Quick question. could I use the coaxial out to my DAC(amp, speakers etc) at the same time as RCA analogue out to my subwoofer? thanks for the really good review.

@PassionforSound 3 месяца назад

Glad you liked the review! Unfortunately, while you could have both connected and quickly and easily toggle via the app or the touch screen, but they won't both run simultaneously.

@r423sdex 7 месяцев назад

Lets hope they send one to ASR for testing.

@ionescugeorge2003 3 месяца назад

How would it compare to the Topping D70 Octo/ DX9, or Gustard A26 used as a dac and volume control regarding the sound quality? I am looking for a natural sounding dac, so mostly looking for akm dacs.

@PassionforSound 3 месяца назад

I think it's probably on par with the OCTO, but a bit different (OCTO is a bit chunkier sounding). I haven't tried the other two DACs you mentioned, but would expect the A26 to be even better based on my experiences with the R26.

@sgcancer 5 месяцев назад

I have a CXN v2 streamer with buitin DAC. To improve sound quality, should i change streamer to A8 or insert a

@PassionforSound 5 месяцев назад

I don't know the CXN v2 so it's hard to say. If the A8 has extra features you'll use (like DSP) then maybe go that way. If not, the DAC is probably the best pure sound quality improvement option.

@techmed-rainer 7 месяцев назад

Danke!

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

Bitte!

@rizalahmad4207 7 месяцев назад

I definitely want to learn more about FIR filter. Do we need a computer for the setup? Or we just plugin the mic in to the device itself? Please make a video 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

I've got one scheduled for January. You need a computer for the measurements, but not after that.

@rizalahmad4207 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for the reply. Looking forward for the tutorial 😊

@patrickf.7025 6 месяцев назад

Would you either prefer an A6 oder Bluesound Node with external dac or an A8? Or do you think also a Wiim Pro plus with external dac is okay?

@PassionforSound 6 месяцев назад

It depends a lot on what you're looking for. The A8 has features that the others do not, but if you don't need those features, something like the A6 (particularly the Master Edition) with a quality external DAC can be just as good or better. The WiiMs are also good, but can't match the higher end streamers with a decent DAC.

@StephenMcGregor1986 7 месяцев назад

Hmm, what is IIS? Is it like the old tape loop functionality of old analog equipment but in digital form???

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

IIS is the protocol used internally by DACs to transmit data. They use it on some devices as a digital input via the HDMI socket and it often sounds better than other inputs.

@hushpuppykl 7 месяцев назад

Nice honest review! At least the A6 owners can sleep tightly ROFL!

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

I think it's a really good balance. For those just wanting a nice streamer box for an external DAC, the A6 is perfect. For those wanting a super powerful all-in-one, the A8 is amazing!

@audiorick841 7 месяцев назад

Great review. Thank you! A tutorial on building convolution filters would be fantastic!

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

Glad you liked it! I've put a convolution filter video in the January schedule 🙂

@BMWliterbikes4life 7 месяцев назад

Hello , new subscriber here. Got a link to the geshelli lab DAC? I see one for a lot cheaper than you mentioned but I’m in the US. What DAC chip do you have? Thx

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for the sub! Here's a link to the DAC. You can choose how to spec this DAC from the Geshelli store (at the link). My version used for this video has the Sparkos Labs op-amps and the AK4499EX DAC chip.

@rikke73 7 месяцев назад

Hi! It would be really great if you could make tutorial video how to get best out of DSP functions, especially how to successfully use FIR filter option.

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

I've scheduled it in for January. Stay tuned 🙂

@rikke73 7 месяцев назад

@@PassionforSound Great news, thanks!

@Trebleclefaudio 7 месяцев назад

If I understood right, the analog input is not converted to digital and send to any of the digital outputs? If not then as pre-amp for a digital/analog combo source system, the DMP-A8 is not an ideal solution in front of digital active loudspeaker.

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

That is correct. The analog inputs go via the R2R volume ladder and then out the analog outputs only.

@joylessdancer4554 6 месяцев назад

I need to know what the equipment racks are behind you. Please tell!

@PassionforSound 6 месяцев назад

Those are the Burson Audio Motherships. I've got a review of them here on the channel. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Nn95ZL4adwo.htmlsi=imqSxI3UQx0yWg7V

@ChatGPT1111 3 месяца назад

I'm waiting on the DMP-A10 before deciding on the DMP-A12 and buying the DMP-A14.

@PassionforSound 3 месяца назад

LoL. Hopefully EverSolo won't be one of "those" brands. So far they appear to be even-handed in their product development (no new DACs since the Z6 and Z8)

@TheSaassaf 6 месяцев назад

I gotta ask :) on 15:00 when you compared with j2s DAC you said that 'they are very very close ' sound wise .. and 20 secs later you said that the j2s is better in a few parameters.. just curious to know if from your point of view they are really more close in comparison sound quality then far that you can hear noticeable upgrade on the j2s . Thanks 🙏

@PassionforSound 6 месяцев назад

When you get two DACs at a similar level like this, the first impression of them will often be that there's no difference at all. That's because the obvious characteristics like resolution and overall tonal character are about the same. When you listen a bit deeper though, you'll sometimes find that there are differences. In the case of the J2S, the quality of the op-amps in the output stage were helping to improve things like soundstage depth and bass extension/weight IIRC.

@TheSaassaf 6 месяцев назад

@@PassionforSound I see what you mean . Thank you 🙏

@aussie8114 7 месяцев назад

I like that it has built in EQ. That is likely going to make it my next streamer. Only thing I see it seems to lack is the ability to control volume balance left / right. If it included this then it could be used with the high end amps that have no balance control which I need to accomodate a crappy left ear. It is unfortunate that the analog inputs cannot run through the DSP though.

@Haydos 7 месяцев назад

It would be hard to have DSP for analogue input. You would need to convert the analogue to digital apply the eq then reconverted it to analogue

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

I was surprised to not see a balance control in the DSP. I can't recall if there's balance control buried somewhere else, but agree that it would have been nice to include.

@Cestmoi50 6 месяцев назад

There is now a beta/alpha firmware for the A6 (1.2.36) supporting the full EQ and PEQ from the A8

@matiasferrer6400 7 месяцев назад

Not a huge jump in performance? I had thought so. Thnk u for the eye opening review.

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

My pleasure. The upgrade is noticeable, but not huge IMO.

@iikatinggangsengii2471 6 месяцев назад

theres chance you can hear that way, 3 point difference will guarantee huge improvement, although experienced ears im sure find 1 difference tobe huge

@Cestmoi50 6 месяцев назад

Today I did a massive auditing, a6, a6 master and a8, and I noticed quite the big step up regarding soundstage, at least more noticeble on big speakers. I even went as far throwing a tt2 in the test. What I noticed was a6 master was noticible better than the a6 but just a little. De a8 however had quite a big stage. Then I compared the a8 to the tt2 digital and I noticed the tt2 lost a little of the stage (compared to the a8) but gave smoothness for it back, and a little calmer sound. As a total I found that the a8 was quite a big difference, and even though the tt2 sounded smoother, it was not like 3 times better. (A6 did not have a change in that compare)

@PassionforSound 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for sharing your experiences!

@danieljones8587 7 месяцев назад

I'm very curious to know what the quality of the preamp is compared to a tubed McIntosh or a tubed Conrad Johnson Act2. If anyone has any idea how they would compare please let me know... My first thoughts are that the Eversolo wouldn't even come close. ?

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

The moment you add tubes, they're going to have very different character so it's a tough comparison. I'd say the DMP-A8 preamp is ok, but it won't match a dedicated pre-amp of around $1,000-1,500+

@rockman22 6 месяцев назад

I am definitely interested in the "how to" video for the filters.

@PassionforSound 6 месяцев назад

It's been recorded! 🙂 Editing when I get back from holidays and releasing in January.

@scottmuhlbaier1945 7 месяцев назад

There's an important question I can't quite find an answer to. I have an Audio Research analog M-Ch preamp that is absolutely state-of-the-art... running an Oppo 205 and now possibly this device. I know it can be done in the A6 but can the A8 disable the internal volume/ volume bypass if you're running it into a preamp that already has a volume control? The AR preamp will blow the doors off anything this offers but I don't see that bypass option on the A8 touch screen which is a big concern. BTW: the people behind the design is from Zidoo, which is their parent company and well known for making some of the best "Android TV boxes". They have a potent Audio PLUS video product called the Neo Alpha that would be great if you could get in review to compare!

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

There's no bypass option that I've found in the software, but if you max the volume, it should bypass the pre-amp circuit, I believe (that's how I use it). It's unlikely I'll look at the Zidoo gear, I'm afraid, simply because I'm an audio focused channel, but you never know...

@michaelrobinson8241 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for the thorough review. You mentioned it won’t function as a USB bridge device converting a usb input signal to a spdif out. I am wondering if it allows the opposite though-convert a spdif input signal to a usb out? Many thanks.

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

Hmmmm... I don't currently have a DAC connected to the USB socket so perhaps the system is smart and only shows USB when it's connected. If I select optical or coaxial at the moment, it shows the analog outputs and IIS so there's hope. Let me check when I can attach a DAC...

@michaelrobinson8241 7 месяцев назад

So kind of you to check. Thanks! @@PassionforSound

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

No problems, but sadly, I have bad news. The USB output is only available when using the internal player for local or streamed files.

@michaelrobinson8241 7 месяцев назад

I suspected as much, but many thanks for the confirmation. @@PassionforSound

@alvidrez7956 6 месяцев назад

As a streamer only . Would the a8 be better sounding due to power supply ect .. I have an external bifrost 2 dac and marantz pm11s3 for preamp . Just want the best streamer to use Apple Music

@PassionforSound 6 месяцев назад

It might have a VERY slight edge, but it wasn't enough that I noticed a difference in my comparisons so you'd really have to go hunting for it.

@TheSaassaf 6 месяцев назад

Hey ! Thank you for the review . I have a question.. today I'm with ferrum Erco and gsx mini . I use the Erco with line out to my mini . Do you think I'll have a better result sound wise with the eversolo amp a 8 DAC over the Erco DAC ? I'll really appreciate your help here

@PassionforSound 6 месяцев назад

That's a tough one to answer because I haven't tried the Erco. Knowing that it uses the ES9028Pro chip, the A8 has the upper hand there with its AK4499EX, but the output stage might be better from the Erco - I don't know. Another key question is how you're feeding the DAC. If you're going to use the streamer stage in the DMP-A8 then that can provide benefits over other sources like USB from a PC or Mac and that could also be in favour of the A8. As I said, it's hard for me to give a clear answer though...

@TheSaassaf 6 месяцев назад

@@PassionforSound Thank you very much for the reply I appreciate it🙏 yeah today I'm with a high quality USB to my DAC . But then again , a streamer ofc is much more convenient but if you say that above all the chip of the eversolo is on the upper hand it make my choice easier .

@PassionforSound 6 месяцев назад

Yes, I think you'll find the combination of streaming to the DMP-A8 plus the better internal chip, might make it the better overall choice.

@herrtrigger7220 3 месяца назад

When you select both RCA and XLR analog outputs it cuts output level on XLR by about a third. None of the SMSL, Topping, RME or Benchmark products do this. Not much volume left at moderate loud level. Would have been nice to know beforehand.

@PassionforSound 3 месяца назад

I haven't come across that. That's interesting... I wonder why it does that? If it's leaving you short on volume though, I'd be concerned that what you're running is pushing pretty hard even with the full XLR output levels.

@TheVeganVicar 7 месяцев назад

😇 May God Bless You Always, Lachlan! 😇

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

Thank you VV!

@geekosa63 4 месяца назад

Is the DAC better than du9 ultra or other 4499 smsl/topping dac ?

@PassionforSound 4 месяца назад

No, it's about on par with other AK4499 DACs that use similar, integrated, chip-based output stages

@freddymcculloch6811 6 месяцев назад

Here is my dilemma: I currently like the internal dac in my Hegel H190. Is the dac in the A8 that much better? If not, I had rather buy the a6 master edition and digital out to my Hegel dac. Thoughts?

@PassionforSound 6 месяцев назад

I can't tell which DAC chip is in the H190. It's an AKM, but unlikely to be the AK4499EX which was only released about a year ago (I think the H190 has been around longer than that, yes?) So, the A8 is likely to be better in terms of depth in the soundstage, but might not be significantly different in other ways.

@jaempilang 6 месяцев назад

Do you guys think there will be a master edition here too and one should wait?

@PassionforSound 6 месяцев назад

It's hard to be sure, but it looked to me like the A6 Master Edition was almost a prototype of what they planned for the A8 so I don't know if they'll go another step up.

@michaelkegan6757 7 месяцев назад

Eversolo didn't wait very long after releasing the A6 before releasing the A6 Master Edition. One of the upgrades in the master edition was an upgrade of the output op amps. If they remain true to their pattern of release there may be a Master Edition of the A8 with better output op amps in the future.

@michaelwright1602 7 месяцев назад

Can you remove the op amps, or are they soldered to the board?

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

That would be great if they're able to find an op-amp setup to get the most from the DAC stage. As for swapping op-amps, I haven't opened it to have a look, but I believe they're a surface mount op-amp that's used so no easy swapping.

@gillesthibodeau7078 7 месяцев назад

I'm interested in a video with how to correct frequencies with DSP's as the one in the A8. :)

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

I've scheduled one for January 🙂

@Saburai868 6 месяцев назад

About outputting the digital signal via the IIS connector...will the DSP functionality of the A8 work on the signal before it heads over to an external DAC, or does the signal bypass the DSP altogether?

@PassionforSound 6 месяцев назад

The DSP applies to digital outputs too 🙂. Everything except the pre-amp outputs goes via the DSP (if you use it)

@Saburai868 6 месяцев назад

@@PassionforSound Thanks for responding. I sent an email to Eversolo after posting here, asking specifically if the IIS output signal gets DSP, and here is what they said: Regarding the issue: please kindly note that IIS output has not undergone DSP processing in the A8. Best regards, Eversolo

@PassionforSound 6 месяцев назад

Oh crap! Sorry for the wrong information. I'm so glad you checked. Because the other digital outputs respond to DSP, I figured they all would.

@Saburai868 6 месяцев назад

@@PassionforSound no prob. like everyone here I appreciate all the time and effort you put into doing these vids. and appreciate your straight up reviews. thanks much.

@michaelwright1602 7 месяцев назад

Does the EverSolo software offer an EQ like the WiiM software does? Easily accessible from the track that is playing?

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

Sort of. It's very easy to access the DSP settings from the "now playing" screen. That means you can quickly get to the parametric EQ, but it might not be quite as simple to tweak quickly when compared to the Wiim setup.

@michaelwright1602 7 месяцев назад

@@PassionforSoundThank you for the quick reply. I had the EverSolo 6 streamer on order and cancelled it after getting a WiiM mini. The WiiM software experience blew me away, and then the EQ and now PEQ. I then upgraded to the Pro and run it through my PS Audio DAC/Preamp. It simply boggles my mind what these WiiM units can do, and do it so flawlessly. I do run mine off of a linear power supply, which took the WiiM up a few notches in regards to SQ. So miuch, for so little.

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

Yes. I've just written up my notes on the Wiim range for an upcoming review and they are definitely excellent for those who don't need the extra features of the EverSolo devices (display, balanced out, etc.)

@carlosr.2027 7 месяцев назад

@@michaelwright1602can the wiim pro plus stream Apple Music natively

@toyz2511 7 месяцев назад

Can you use it as a streamer only and still use the dsp/eq?

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

Absolutely!

@Leo-yn5fx 7 месяцев назад

Lachlan whats a proper upgrade from an smsl a0200? Looking dynamics, better separation and more airy resolution

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

I haven't done enough reviewing of speaker amps to have that answer just yet. What's your budget?

@Leo-yn5fx 7 месяцев назад

@@PassionforSoundoh nvm its the h0200! The headphone amp. Budget is 500-1000

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

The Geshelli Labs A3 Pro is a definite winner in that range. The new Aune S17 Pro might be a good choice too, but I'm yet to try it.

@Maver1ck911 7 месяцев назад

Do you peg the streamer at the same level as their standalone DAC? Or would you have a streamer to their DAC, in particular?

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

I think the DAC in the A8 is superior to the DAC in the Z8 thanks to the new AKM chips in the streamer so I'd just go for the DMP-A8

@Maver1ck911 7 месяцев назад

@PassionforSound that combo is super tempting on the portable side for the new Fiio Q15 but that sucker is as big as my phone and half a LB defeating the purpose of the BTR7 🤭😭

@scottmuhlbaier1945 7 месяцев назад

Eversolo is a sister company of Zidoo who makes some of the best Android boxes around. I always wondered what the difference between ES & Z products were...and it's actually pretty simple. Eversolo is AUDIO Only... so is a streaming device, while Zidoo include the 4K video side. The equivalent to this on the Zidoo (video) side is the Neo Alpha, but at almost 3 grand!

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

I wasn't aware of that. Thank you for sharing!

@scottmuhlbaier1945 7 месяцев назад

See if you can get your hands on a Zidoo Neo Alpha and I think you'll be blown away. Not only does it have the top-line Sabre 9038 Pro DAC, but it has balanced analog preamp outputs to run directly into an amp, multiple power supplies to handle all the separate components, every quality Bluetooth codec imaginable, split HDMI to optimize audio and video, and some of the best Japanese circuitry with high-end Elna capacitors and such. Oh yeah, and it plays nearly every VIDEO file under the sun. If I didn't already have an Oppo 205 that repeats many of these functions...I would probably get it in a heartbeat.

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

Thanks for letting me know!

@peterandersson6762 7 месяцев назад

Hi! What about support for MQA?

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

Sorry, I don't tend to think about MQA these days, but the A8 DOES support MQA. 🙂

@CB-nd9ki 5 месяцев назад

Do you pick this over the hifi rose rs250?

@PassionforSound 5 месяцев назад

I haven't tried the HiFi Rose so I can't say - sorry.

@TOMASittha108 7 месяцев назад

Hi. I wonder about this comparison. I know you are a Chord user and enthusiast. I use high-class Sveda Audio active loudspeakers. When I bought the DMP A6, I sold the Chord Qutest. I could remove additional devices from the audio path; The Qutest had no volume control, no XLR outputs, and although it sounded better than the "A6", the instruments did not have their natural mass, they seemed slimmer. The Qutest sounded nicer, had better soundstage and detail, but with the standard "A6" I listened more to the music than what it sounded like. I wonder what "A8" sounds like to your ears compared to the Chord Qutest. Are you able to share your impressions?

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

Unfortunately, I don't have the Qutest anymore to be able to say. What I know from various experiences though is that the Chord DACs produce more depth in the soundstage. Most chip-based Delta Sigma DACs tend to flatten out the stage which can bring everything forward into more of a wall of sound. This can create that sense of density that you're talking about with the instruments so I imagine it's that that you're preferring. The A8 will sit somewhere between the A6 and the Qutest in that regard because the AK4499EX chips produce more depth, but not as much as the Chord DACs.

@TOMASittha108 7 месяцев назад

I like "analog" playing, where the instruments have their own natural mass and body. From my experience, there was no more air in the presentation of space in Qutes, I had it in the system for 5 years! Qutest had more details; you could listen to every line of the instruments. The message was dynamic, but on the other hand "velvet", this was all a plus. However, it lacked mass and descent. Maybe you need to change the Delta sigma to the R2R DAC, which in the future will become a partner for the "A8", which will be at my place next week. Thank you for your answer. Regards! 🙂@@PassionforSound

@mddawson1 7 месяцев назад

I have been using the similar Eweat (MyMei) DMP-50 streamer DAC for the past year. I believe Eweat is the OEM for Eversolo and Zidoo. The Eweat has been excellent and the company has released firmware and app updates. It's only failing atm is that it doesn't do gapless playback.

@PassionforSound 7 месяцев назад

Interesting! Yet another brand I've not heard of. Thanks for sharing.

@mddawson1 7 месяцев назад

@@PassionforSound I got it for $1664AU back in August 2022 from their online store in Ali. They now have it at $3173AU which is way too much given the DMP-A8's price. That said, the DMP50 is really high quality product using two ESS9038 Pro chips, decodes DSD512 and weighs 8.5kg. They also claim to use genuine German Wima and Japanese Elna caps in it. Just a shame it has no gapless playback.