@@eenryu Not true. WC saitama has never been and was never stated to be a gag character. That's just misinformation that was spread by saitama wankers during the series' early days. He is and always has been a parody character, which is very different
Well, from my point of view, I think that the reason that Murata decided to enter the field of the multiverse is to help and provide an argument for other writers or fans to be creative with their ideas and stories freely and comfortably, under the pretext that these stories took place in a parallel universe, for example (fan manga Terra 2 Saitama or Garou Terra 3 or Saitama vs. Goku...etc.)
How is Dragon Ball cooked when Goku and the gang are still continuing to get stronger as well?!?! Both series ain’t over yet, so once they are then we’ll be able to definitively say who is stronger. I do agree with you though that the power scaling in DBS is ass lol.
@JerryRobinson019 dude be fr, not only is the story crap but the team behind DB has no clue behind powerscaling. And the manga is even worse. They had a full power Moro and Zamasu threatening to destroy just galaxy lol. It's just pathetic, they make dragon ball look so weak
@@Nagisa_Kobayashi As a dragon ball fan, GT had good ideas just really poor execution and some truly terrible filler. The debate on whether it's canon or not is still in the air as dbs is supposed to take place between the 10 year time gap before the dbz finale but there's way too much either missing or altered so it's generally considered noncanon but at the same time it hasn't be explicitly proven that's its no longer canon so no one can really say for sure.
Think of GT as a movie. Before DBS, no movie was ever canon. They all existed as alternative stories. But that shouldn’t stop people from enjoying them. GT got a lot of hate from purist manga fanboys to the point the story had to be shortened to end it sooner than it was supposed to. GT’s case reminds me of Star Wars Prequels, people loved to bash those movies into oblivion (even the main actors were bullied endlessly)… until the Sequels arrived and they started to finally appreciate the Prequels because what they got without George Lucas was a total disaster. I wish I could say the same about GT but the level of fanboyism in the fans is so immense that they still consume DBS just because they have more Dragon Ball to watch. They were starving for more CANON DB for so many years that now that they got it, they are incapable of admiting the new DB is an atrocious mess. Nowadays when people see GT they might give it a compliment, like admiring SSJ4, but not before criticizing the anime and writing a list of every flaw and things they don’t like about it.
@@haroldortega3961 pls chad gt Goku is an adult a father a husband and a warrior in a kid body (a childis one of course), while virgin super goku is child in an adult body nothing more
They was so confident when they thought saitama or just the opm verse caps at SS level lmao now look empty void can literally step out of the universe itself
@@nameless_dot7199or, there can only exist 1 Saitama in a Universe and if there are more then 1 they fuse like what happened at the end of Garou vs Saitama, Saitama traveled back in Time and after punching Garou he instantly fused with that times Saitama 😊
This is giving me vibes from the movie "The One" the Jet Li movie where he kills/absorbs the power of versions of himself from the multiverse. Maybe that is why Saitama is so strong, he is an infinite number of himself combined into one body.
In Hindu mythology there is a god called "Hanuman', he is crazy strong. One day as usual he was getting bored and had an Idea to go to the human world and see how humans live but to do so he would lose his memories of being a god(but still had his power). The story continues, he fights the bad guy with his crazy physical prowess which even surprises most humans. As the story reaches its final arc, he is forced to remember that he is a god and gets all of his memory back to fight the ultimate villain who has tormented the universe. Maybe Saitama is also a god who came down to the human realm because he was crazy bored in God's realm. He has lost his memory but still has his crazy powers. Just a theory.
I just hate the idea that some other God gave Saitama power.... I just can't make sense out of it. The whole point of Saitama's intense training was that through sheer hardwork and a strong will he became the strongest. Also One's other work like in Mob Psycho, Kageyama/Mob wasn't the strongest psych because of some secret heritage or without someone's help. Mob got his powers when he tried to save his brother from getting bullied, such a simple yet cool asf origin. That's my opinion obviously and I get why people want a power origin story so badly 🥲
Yeah. I'm fine with other characters somehow siphoning power off God intentionally/unintentionally but Saitama should be THE exception. I can see that being part of the reason God doesn't notice him like so many others don't. I hope he turns out to be inconceivable to God.
The fact Saitama can only be 1 despite different parallel worlds in the multiverse Makes him INVULNERABLE TO EXISTENCE ERASURE , REWIND TIME TRAVELLING TECHNIQUES LIKE YOU CAN'T GO BACK TO A TIMELINE WHERE SAITAMA WAS STILL A KID TO KILL HIM OR FORTH TO FUTURE WHERE HE'S TOO OLD TO DO ANYTHING SAITAMA IS LITERALLY A GOD IN A HUMAN FORM HIMSELF HE JUST DOESN'T KNOW IT YET
Would be interesting, So Saitama could be like Jet Lees "The One" or "Molecule Man" [Marvel Secret Wars 2015] where their power is literally that of the Same Character from multiple Universes compressed into a Single Person.
With this multiverse being based on the Many Worlds Interpretation according to the very first statement after Empty Void leaves the universe, then all of these universes and their infinite branching universes exist within an abstract infinite-dimensional space known as Hilbert Space, making the OPM cosmology High Hyperversal. This would be the hyperspace that Empty Void can access meaning he can exist in a space that quite literally has countably infinite dimensions on top of being able to fold dimensions entirely and use a slash that ignores size, distance, and energy. This is some next level stuff.
Okay slow down there was no confirmation of infinite Hilbert space in the manga so the cosmology isn't high hyperversal even with MWI which even dragon ball and sonic verse have for a long time now.
@@malikmcfarlane6060 "According to classical physics, the state of the universe is determined by the position and velocity of the particles. This understanding of the universe underwent a major overhaul when Quantum Mechanics came along, according to which wavefunction, a mathematical object, determines the universe’s state. The wavefunction resides and rotates in an abstract infinite dimensional space known as Hilbert space. Whenever someone makes an observation, this wavefunction collapses into a definite classical outcome. Later on, as proposed by Hugh Everett III, the collapse of a wavefunction did not fall into a necessary event to happen. Rather, it is predicted that a classical reality splits into a superposition of many such realities. This superposition of classical worlds is the Level 3 multiverse." This is a quote from an article on the website Primitive Proton called "What are the different levels of the multiverse?" It is directly stated that Hilbert space in the MWI is infinite dimensional, and there are other sites that say the same thing.
Just a crazy idea that popped in my head, might not make sense but maybe the Saitama who broke his limiter is a singularity, and now we are seeing this possible multiverse theory happening and maybe in all the other universes Saitama never broke his limiter and never tried to become a hero cause he through he was to weak and useless , therefore he would remain as job seeker Saitama. As we know at the beginning of the of the series when Saitama was looking for work he kept getting rejected over and over again leaving him soulless, maybe Saitama goes to a really dark place and out of nowhere God appears and offers his power to Saitama making a evil Saitama, but God doesn't stop there. God will hop from universe to universe making the same deal with many other Saitama's over and over again, so the end battle apart from God will be limitless evil Saitama's vs one good limitlessly powered Saitama, I think that would be pretty cool. Or it may just be that God is evil Saitama.
Saitama for sure. Superman always wins for BS reasons, but Saitama is his own BS reason 😂 He's written to always win. Superman has lost to a human boxer before
@@undeadinside3571 nahh bro supes is just that guy.....most of his feats from what i have seen are mostly strenght feats like holding up infinity and all that stuff
@@prxnceanime6335 what about that time he shot a "little midget version" of himself out of his hand. With all of his powers? He did that before. He also traveled hundreds of times faster than light to 1 punch a 5th dimensional being. Just because. Or that time he beat Dr. Manhattan just because DC felt like buying back watchmen and then making them all lose and then never using them again. They immediately just killed all of them off and gave Dr. Manhattan's powers to wally... but superman beat Dr. Manhattan for a complete BS reason. He's apparently now part of the fabric of reality. Incredibly bad writing
What if there can only exist 1 Saitama in 1 universe/time-line that's if there are more then 1 Saitama in a Universe/timeline they just get fused like what happened at the end of garou vs Saitama!
@@kaenakanee that's just a theory by this youtuber guy.cant take his fan theories as canon. also it says in the manga that every possibility creates a parallel world.meaning there's a universew where saitama didnt have to kill boros,etc etc.thus creating infinite parallel universes with infinite saitama's in it
@@Faruk_Supreme Like who doesn't, I feel if we got an evil Saitama we will truly see Saitama's full potential and strength bcz even if good Saitama grows exponentially evil Saitama would also do the same leading our Saitama to just unleash 100% limitless
Empty void took.small portion of gods power, and he became multiversal threat. I swear i cant imagine how the full power of god will be So basically, 1% of gods power = multiversal
@@loveonepieceforever8203 Bro you just gotta be a hater for saying it’s only hype cause of the power increase the story is literally changing to something we’ve never imagined OPM to be.
@@loveonepieceforever8203one punch man is a good story and way better than dbs and has a better consistency but I can't change your mind but I also don't see how you didn't see any of this coming
It seems that God already knows that Saitama is very strong, even the strongest, because Blast said that if God comes to the third dimension, it’s all because he is interested in Saitama. Then, when Cosmic Garou became a Monster, God clearly brought an Avatar created out of Nature's wrath, and also clearly referred to Saitama as the "the embodiment fist that opposes God."
@@jahmoymignott4081 "no not really" yeah you aren't because you're so deep in your own delusion that you think Goku is still stronger, yeah OK fanboy. Empty void one taps now
Bring any protagonist, Saitama will destroy his present past and future as well. 😄 I love saitama and his creator for not putting limits on himas he is a comical hero which is based on imagination and imagination doesn't have limit so why put limit on imaginary hero like to a real human. OPM is perfect. My type.
Do you think the reason why the Empty Void came to their Universe is because Saitama and Garou manipulated time? (Okay dont read this, this doesn't make any sense. HAHAHA)
@@Victor-gz4it Ya know what? If Goku can't get stronger than Saitama and his verse's titans of power, then screw Dragon Ball.... I'll stand with the very thing that inspired Goku himself. Sun Wukong... And if that's not enough, I'll freaking send WoD Buddha in this shit.
This just goes to show how powerful God is. Man if its like this, imagine how much stronger Saitama actually is, I mean the guy has infinite potential, and he keeps on growing, proceed to show higher and higher level of feats. Its getting close, Saitama > Goku lol
@@sayed_9730 The hell are you on about lol all I’m sayin is based on the feats Saitama could possibly be stronger now and if not now then soon. It seems the feats are only gonna get bigger and far beyond what Goku is capable of. That’s just logic dude 🤣🤣🤣
Nah One is actually playing 4D chess with us. We always thought he was making changes to the manga with the redraws but instead he was showing us the different universes giving us hints to God's power.
Never knew my favourite verse was this strong !!!! I only thought it capped at Multi galaxy level but no, And the fact is that there's more to come...OPM powerscaling is scary
It being a multiverse after the retcons we got is such a clever way to sorta make them not so bad to look back on. Can't wait for more power level insanity when we get the next bump in power ups. It's so cool in believing that perhaps Saitama is an anomaly from everything else!!
@@ka_killers2088 don't worry about it, he will after August 22... Don't forget DBZ is only 18 - 12 Univers....DBZ Cosmology Doesn't even come close to OPM Cosmology
I always wondered why people like evil version of the protagonist. Is it because of design choices or to see who would win in a certain scenario or something else?
@@justtony3108 But in most cases the ideology of counterpart wouldn’t make them evil but just guided in the wrong direction. Like with Goku Black for example. He believed so much in his Ideals that he wanted all mortals eliminated, and most people didn’t disagree with his points, but he went about it the wrong way.
Imagine if Saitama kills God in the end of One Punch Man, but Saitama killing God would alert other multiversal Gods, and they will team up against Saitama. However, before they team up against Saitama, they will test Saitama’s strength by sending monsters to his universe because these Gods have never witnessed Saitama’s true strength.
@@aryanrahimi3242 Empty void is multiversal, Goku is barely multiversal, Blast = Empty void AT LEAST, Saitama > Blast, Saitama is logically multiversal+. Match that with the rate of Saitama’s exponential growth (I don’t got it on me rn, but someone did the math and it’s mind shattering) and yeah… OPM God > DB verse, and by extension Saitama > Goku.
@@SlabernickGokus been multiversal since BOG and has gotten thousands of times stronger since then. Sorry to burst your bubble but the OPM verse isn’t there.
0:54 It did showed him doing that. It stated that he's *"folding entire dimensions like bubbles and using special jutsu",* implying he's doing just that in order to use the Dimension Slash. Also he intervene *outside the causality of the universe* which is 4D meaning he's 5D and possibly above.
first of all, the graph doesn't really show his true power, it shows that even if you're at Saitama's level, you still can't defeat him. And if you think that just by going outside the causality of the universe doesn't mean you can get away from his punches that will definitely make you feel pain even if you can nullify physical attacks. Murata and One is making Saitama the strongest Fictional character, that's for sure.
@@SXVM Look up arale norimaki abilities or watch othinus video on saitama vs arale to know she absolutely wrecks saitama and his verse plus beerus has immunity to gag powers.
@@fell._.w as you can see, goku died many times reasoning that goku didnt use defense ki etc, which is some kind of dumb reason, unlike saitama doesn't need a defense ki, multiversal atk or alter space ki atk, it wont work. As you can also see, how new antagonist atk works.
However the idea of an ABSOLUTE mutiverse would overcome this. What makes a separate universe is the differences. Even under the idea, a different universe doesn't "exist". Requiring the energy to make the universe in the first place to travel between them. A sub/local mutiverse idea is often used intentionally or not, for example, keeping intellectual property separate or using simpler rules.
Multiverses and Time traveling shit are a one way ticket to a story going from amazing to absolute dogshit confusing with 1000 plot armors and "oh, we'll just go back in time to reset the story" type of shit. This is an absolute death sentence to OPM.
@@Napoleonic_SBeerus can! He also can destroy gag characters and has infinite power. Once Goku inevitably beats him, it's over. Though, since Toriyama's death we won't be seeing anything for a while.
Maybe Saitama is the one true G-d of all reality and creation, but for some reason is too ridiculously dense to realize he's doing all this to himself ?
I think that “God” is the future version of Saitama. He’s creating God avatars for Saitama to fight because he knows how frustrating it was never being able to be challenged.
People forget that Dr. Genus’ eyes glowed green when he achieved peak intelligence and Saitama’s eyes glowed yellow when he defeated Crablante. I think it’s an external force granting them power not necessarily a god.
As a professional dragon ball glazer, i admit defeat. It's gonna take atleast 5 training arcs for goku to reach empty void's strength, the Dragon Ball Verse is cooked💀😭
See that bubble in front of him before he attacks from the outside? That's there dimension that he fold into a bubble like the rest that surrounded him
I can already feel the Saitama fans saying "Saitama beats Goku" So I'm just gonna explain. The best feat in this chapter is low-mid Complex multiversal Goku in the buu saga beat kid buu, someone who could destroy the kaioshin world, which is a universe sized planet, but our universe is 00000.1% actual matter and the rest is empty. But the kaioshin realm is filled with density. Meaning this singular fear is octillians of times universal, aka high complex multiversal. Then Beerus and Goku have their fight, which is called "High dimensional" aka 5d. And goku absorbs this power into his base, he can stack Ssj (50× multiplier) Ssj 2 (100× multiplier) Ssj 3 (400× multiplier) And even Ssj G (100s of millions~ multiplier) over it. Which means Goku was high complex multiversal in the buu saga and he can be BILLIONS of times stronger, and even higher dimensional because the current goku makes the one in BOG look like a baby since after this fight he is MILLIONS of times stronger than his initial 5d self. He borders on outer tbh. And I always find it hilarious when people say 'Well this character has this hax!' DBZ's power scaling is broken. If you have an ability and you use it on someone, if your stronger than that person, that ability works, if your weaker, it doesn't. We saw this in the fight between hit and jiren. I'm sorry but Goku STILL solos 😭🙏
If Saitama travel to another dimension to defeat god it has to be done with one single punch As we saw at the fight with god garou After Saitama punches Garou he is pulled to the other saitama at that dimension 🤷🏻♂️ and he needs to be powerful enough to defeat god with a single punch A huge and devastating battle between Saitama and a god avatar needs to happen first for Saitama to have enough power to land The ultimate PUNCH jajajaja 🍁
@basic-heartbeat1172 Goku is low multiplex multi Empty void scales low complex multiversal too, because he is higher than the causal relationship of the universe. And the universe in OPM is 4d. Empty void is 5d.
Saitama's universe is apart of his energy therefore God would just be beating himself up and God is powerful just as the part of his energy is also just as invincible regardless of the size
i disagree this is just NO becouse saitama is on opm god level which is above space-time existed in higher place the reason opm god sent monsters and gave garou his power that he is scared from saitama thats clearly say when saitama broke his limiter he became a higher being
i dont like the idea that saitama is supported by another god cuz the entire point of the show is that he was able to break his limiter out of sheer determination, and that anybody could do it if they have the willpower. If we found out his power was given to him, it goes against that entire ideal
Feels like it could be a pull or reference from "The One". A Jet Li movie from a couple decades ago, the more you exist in other realities, the more your total energy as a person is split up and the less "powerful" you are overall. Dunno if anyone has pointed this out, if so I'm sorry! Didn't see it in the comments....but there are a lot of comments at the moment lol.
The fourth demention only allows you to access to time and parallel universe. You need to apply to the fifth demention to able to travel to different universe. Saitama does not exist in a pararal universe if he is a singularity and a bug. He is probeley from higher demention that came to OPM universe.
What if another god give saitama power then the god is testing his created (saitama) that's why the monster attacking him then the monster for some reason that the bad monster good monsters from another universe that why the another god ignore how strong saitama really is
