Hey everyone, this video is quite old and lacks the presentation I'd have today (largely in regards to how I would present the ideas.) There are certainly moments of interesting conversation. However, there are equally moments that either weren't presented well or don't amount to much. I would encourage deeply thinking about each point and not viewing any situation as a black/white good or bad act Thank you, hope there's something for you to enjoy
-greedy -pride bigger than the light of the sun This is just a dragon pretending to be a man pretending to be an unremarkable dragon, the horde is 'adoring' fans
honestly this gave me an idea for a D&D villian, A dragon being a cult leader sounds fun. sadly i dont know how to GM so i will just write this down in my idea text file
@@ihatehandleupdate there is something called stealing your parents credit card , there are countless amount of kids that stole their parents credit cards and bought something expensive like tons of V-bucks or a PS5
What is this North Korea ah Server. Edit: My mistake, This server is more strict than North Korea, Garo really wanna make Kim Jong Un jealous. Edit 2: Not jealous, Fear, and feel sympathy for those inside this server.
16:52 So right with the lying about the age thing. When I was a kid I’d make my age in the 40’s bc I just knew a big number meant no restrictions. Only time I didn’t lie about it was on club penguin lol
For real, tho! It wasn't hard or long for 10 y/o me to eventually figure out that any age above 21 means I can bypass age restrictions. The one time I didn't lie was in my very, VERY early months on the internet, when all I knew was Facebook and Ameba Pico.
@@brew_toctI’m a keep it 100% I don’t like furries the concept I just don’t get it but you did kinda open up my mind a little bit realizing this is just one guy and not the whole community so my bad on that 😅
Won’t be surprised when allegations start coming out about this guy grooming or harming children in some other way. Everything about this is scary and makes me incredibly sad for the kids falling victim to it.
yeah i get recommended his shorts so i eventually got recommended one of his undertale streams (i watch a few people play undertale) it was all just people spamming emotes and donations to a default unity dragon as far as i could tell. edit: i completely understand something like "if you wanna have a full blown conversation one-on-one between someone in the server, please try to keep that in a dm" "dont bring up topics that are completely unrelated" "dont drown out someone elses messages, even by accident" "try to keep the focus on my content/game i play" things like that, but to not allow messages about other creators, and barely allow people to even talk to other people in general is insane
I remember joining his server for about a day or two to see what all the buzz was about before people started calling him out. Not only did the bizarre rules make me immediately raise an eyebrow, but the general chat... It was absolutely nothing but people reposting an emoji of his sonas butt, over and over again. Walls of butt, more butt, and occasional nonsensical phrases like "pawsies." I'm not even sure if there was ever any genuine discussion in that chat. It was possibly the most bizarre and mind numbing discord experience I had ever been through💀
@@MyUsernameIsGoofy "DARN IT MORDECIA, YOU unleashed Muscle Man's Dad out of the underworld and now he's going to smush us to D-E-A-T-H with his BUTT. Fix this NOW or YOUR FIRED!" -Benson, sometime in the past millennium.
Them being so afraid to let anyone seemingly do anything that isn't centered around him is very much very creepy. Especially to the point where other content creators are just not allowed. So insecure in their place above everyone that they can't allow anything that can be construed as competition.
@@Lmafaooo Its big enough that it is actually a yearly tradition but its too small for the bigger youtubers and scarce , well hes an obscure individual. Mutahar primary focuses on things large enough that the general public or federal government had to respond to it primary Tech based things and the occasional underage scandal with a large companies or tech scandals, or youtubers mass scamming similar to Coffeezilla. Garo is simply a small-fry compared to these situations, perhaps when he gets bigger he could be seen by someone like moist critical, or full proof he is scouting for younger individuals maybe he would covered, his cult is too loyal to speak up for now; and if you observe his channel alot of videos are deleted so hes staying off the radar hes not Onison 2.0 furry addition yet, but maybe someday, he deletes every comment or has someone deleting every comment to keep himself safe.
It's exactly these kinda of people that cause the community (outside of the typical degeneracy) to be frowned upon. I myself am a furry but I can't help but feel disgust towards people like this, and is exactly why I stay far away from the community.
I absolutely hate he has private calls for minors. I have several active in my community but they have to be 18 or have a parent/guardian present for any voice activity.
i remember one time i joined this dudes server cause i wanted the emojis, i ended up chatting the dude up like twice, and the second time it was me saying "hey, im gonna try streaming", and i immediately get kicked from the server with the excuse of something like "i dont want other streamers in the server". isnt that one of the biggest things you shouldnt do as a content creator and streamer?
If you ever pass him in subscribers you should defently find a way back into the server and say "Remeber me" Garo really needs to get taken down a notch on that ego it's higher then the sky and space
Most dragon furs I've met over my 16 - 17 years of being in the furry fandom are super sweet and loving so it's always surprising when I come across one that is just a downright terrible person like Garo. (Hell, I'm sometimes a dragon fur myself)
@@ffffffffffffffffffffffffffff5 I don't know if I should be more concerned by the fact that you started being a furry at the age of 10, or that most furries are older than 30
The worst part is that he has a hidden channel that he doesn’t show in his main account which talks about a furry game which is disgusting, even though the drama end.
i hope more videos like yours spread around youtube and people will see who he really is and leave his disgusting server, i feel bad for his audience who are under his control.
Honestly, there's a pretty big problem with parasocial relationships in the furry fandom. There's a lot of lonely men in the fandom who struggle to socialize with people privately and they fall victim to predatory people like this. Garo is hardly the only person doing this, and honestly, if he wasn't such an awful person, this could be ok. I think it's possible to profit from a largely parasocially involved base without being a terrible and predatory human being.
Wait a min!! @15:49 that red/white/grey thing looks like the pfp a goblin called Cyraxx (awful is an understatement when describing him) was using during the time he wanted to be a furry. It was because he was pals with a furry called Nilit, and Raxx starts to copy anyone he thinks he's friends with. Nilit kicked him to the curb after he learned the truth about Raxx. He steals everything; music, art, etc. I didn't think I'd find where he stole that furry character from though.
Garo: Be friendly and humble Also garo: Happy birthday, I see you have been celebrating your birthday for about 1/5 minutes that is unreasonable! You are putting too much attention into yourself on your birthday and not watching me stream a video, if you continue this you will be kicked from the server for celebrating your birthday for 1/5 minutes!
A popular member of the furry fandom is an abusive narcissist? I haven't seen something like that since, uh, literally every single ever even remotely popular member of the furry fandom for literally all of history.
What is this power trip fueled nightmare? Jeez… this is just sick. Like, I’m only three minutes in and it seems like this guy is actively attempting to monopolize attention from people and benefit directly from the impressionability of his audience in the most malicious way.
Hey, just want to let you know that the harm cults do is actually mostly psychological and emotional, not physical. In fact physical harm is usually only found in the more extreme cases when not self-inflicted harm as a result of the psychological and emotional harm. So this person is not only using grooming tactics to manipulate and desensitize children, but is also using cult tactics to amass a following of vulnerable innocents that will turn against each other and the people around them, isolating them socially from any form of help or suggestions of critical thinking that could protect them from abuse or being taken advantage of by any predators or stop any current predators from continuing to prey on them. This is an older video, so I wouldn't be surprised if some accusations came to light since this was posted.
I despise people like Garo, as a member of the furry community I can confirm that pretty much nobody likes him, at all, whatsoever in any way shape or form. His actions do not represent the fandom in any way.
As someone who’s been around the internet for a while the moment I saw the artwork in the dating sim game I may have shivered knowing he shows this to kids
Idc how young his fanbase is, how do you end up orbiting someone this hard? Let alone someone with literally zero redeeming qualities. It’s actually kinda sad lol
Grandiose narcissist manipulates others with everything he does the low self esteem people get stuck wanting to please the grandiose narcissist and scared to leave and he is clearly a pedophile nerd
I'm *SO* curious about what's going on with these people who are donating $500+/mo to a creator like this. I can understand that in the case of creators like high-tier video essayists or open source developers since their audience will naturally include some high-income professionals who find their work uniquely valuable, but I'm absolutely baffled by people like Garo here attracting that level of devotion by anyone with serious money. It can't all just be children stealing mommy's credit card out of her purse but I just cannot imagine what kind of person is able to hold down a job with enough income to burn $500+ month after month but who is also hopelessly obsessed with a mediocre furry streamer. My best guess is that it's typically someone who is relatively young and has a decent job but is very socially isolated and essentially goes home every day and compulsively watches their favorite streamer and not much else but idk.
I have seen some of his YT shorts with games i like and subscribed without knowing anything about him. Now that i see this video i will never forget myself for subscribing a RU-vidr without knowing about them...
Would making a blood pact going against people like this be seen as bad, I've never seen a blood pact use in a good light to I'm trying to do it myself with some friends.
when i first saw him, i was like: “oh it’s just an ice dragon youtuber” but after the third video i watched of him and the lore i learnt: “the hell..?”
he probably targets minors because theyre easy to influence. but its definitely concerning, considering he literally looks like the kind of guy to...eugh.
He literally uploads the most pornographic parts of changed as shorts, y’know, if somebody goes out of their way to make sure children see porn, then maybe, JUST MAYBE, They’re a child predator.
Not really. Have you seen the SCP wiki site? Geez, those mods need to lighten the f**k up and stop treating childish internet creepypasta like its a banking business.
@@abloogywoogywoo I wouldn't really go against that. It's supposed to be a serious company in the story after all. Unless it's about talking in forums.
I feel like all of this would KIND of be okay if the dude has like some mental disorders (I have a couple and i act SORT of like this but I don’t gatekeep my friends entirely not to talk to others) but.. dawgg you know what im gonna say 🗿
If I had a nickel for everytime a VR chat furry ended up being a freak I would have 2 nickels. I know there will be more nickels in the future and i am afraid
@@annabellez8397 I’m guessing HyponotistZappho, I would argue she’s worse due to things she did being actually illegal and advocating for that thing to be legal. Research at your own discretion because it involves actual animals in case you’re sensitive to that
Most furries/scalies who play VrChat all the time are usually ret**ded I've been in this fandom for years, and the worst of the worst I always find are from VRChat.
I can't believe how selfish and egotistical this guy is, outright preventing his "Wigglies" from befriending each other and organizing activities unless it involved him, and banning anyone who had a significant social presence? It's like he's TRYING to make himself as unbearable as possible
@@justaserperiorfan.9242 "A Christian Religious group who preach to people by knocking on doors. Yes they might be annoying, but they believe they are helping people, so give them a break. If you ask them not to call ever again they wont, thats all it takes. I know some and they are lovely people, and the horrible things people say about them hurt, needlessly." - Urban Dictionary
@@justaserperiorfan.9242It’s a form in Christianity known as a Nontrinitarianism that rejects the mainstream belief Christian doctrine of trinity, the belief God exists as three distinct Persons - the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. This is from the top of my head some of the info might be incorrect but i don’t think so it sounds right
@@slorms7838 i watched his Undertale Yellow YT shorts because at the time I didn’t have any way to play it since I use a Mac (I later installed a Windows emulator)
What makes this situation even worse is if Garo’s fanbase is pretty much all kids, there’s NO WAY kids have THAT kind of money for those Patreon tiers, so they’ve either: A) SOMEHOW convinced their parents to let them get a subscription, which I VERY highly doubt B) Kids are stealing their parents cards
Good Ending: Garo makes an actual apology video for what he did, gets rid of the rules that are dumb, stops the bad stuff he is doing, and removes the expensive tiers and takes the money from them and donates to charity 🗿
@@person4636How to achieve good ending, what Garo would say: Step 1: Grab a blanket Step 2: Grab a pillow Step 3: Put in the bed Step 4: Keep dreaming What he should (but physically can't because he's so toxic) do: Step 1: STOP BEING A NARCISSIST-
Having known someone on the inside of that, this guy is trying to enforce MORE on his community than the kind of punishment and control JW's do only for their 'excommunicated' or former members who have been kicked out.
imagine his family being with garo during a funeral *family is mourning* 'im sorry grandma, ANYWAY DEAR FAMILY MEMBERS PLEASE GIVE ME MORE ATTENTION AND FOC-'
Honestly people like this give furries a bad name, a lot of them just want to cosplay or draw their anthropomorphic OCs, and while Garo isn't the worst example by a long shot but even then Garo doesn't help with others opinions on furries
How can you give a bad name to furries when majority of fandom is like that? Wouldn't it be better to disassociate from that term if you don't want the "bad name"?
@@Finnishnat-conservativedot7126 I’ve been in the fandom for about 2 years now, most of the furries I’ve meet aren’t like Garo, they’re just normal people wearing a costume
At first I thought maybe the “don’t speak to other wigglies” rule was a safety thing because of the younger audience but it just kept getting worse and worse
