As a loyal Sebek stan, no I could not fix him, because realistically as soon as he brings that Malleus body pillow into bed, I'm out XD Tbh if he was not obsessed with Malleus and willing to die for him, he seems like he'd be very loyal and definitely putting a lot of effort into the relationship
I paused after hearing you talk about Leona and I feel like I need to defend him a LITTLE bit. He's not a top tier husband by any means but I feel like he is marriageable. Yeah he's pretty lazy but he does still take care of his followers so he has a sense of responsibility and he already has what it takes to take on the kinds of jobs you would give a second born prince. (General, Councilman, etc.) I'd also like to point out that his laziness stems from severe depression and he's just at the beginning stages of change so who knows how he'll be in a few years. And yeah I agree he probably does play around but if he's gonna marry anyone it's gonna be that one person who makes him feel like he's actually worth something and when he finds that person he's not gonna wanna mess that up by sleeping around. I also think that he'd be an amazing dad. Hear me out: he doesn't really hate kids, he just doesn't know how to handle them. The one interaction we got between him and Cheka he was worried about the cub being alone, he was mildly indulgent, he even let Cheka sit on him. This completely contradicts him saying that he hates kids. I feel like with his own cubs he'd be a loving and doting father because he'd want to make sure they got all the love and support that he never got. And lastly, coming home to a dirty house isn't an issue because he's a prince and he'd have maids. That's all. Sorry this turned out longer than expected. 😅
@@littlebeantwst I didn't add this because my comment was getting too long but I pretty much agree with the rest of the list. Especially everything you said about Kalim and Jamil. 🤭😆🙈
I think it'd depend on if he shares your feelings in return, the people he really cares about he seems pretty loyal loving and responsible and helpful with just from an arms distance, but if he doesn't return your love the way you may love him he might be into you but he wouldn't commit if there wasn't more there in his eyes in both directions. He doesn't waste his time.
@@boocrimson7720 Yes! All very true! I didn't add every little detail because my comment was getting long but yes his loyalty would depend on how serious his feelings are.
Leona did show character development when he's lecturing Jamil in his own smug way. But it did help Jamil to learn to lean on to others than having the person to be lean on by others. Also he strikes me a demiromantic, due to his depression, he won't just fall in love with someone if he isn't serious with them.
I feel like it’s so hard to place Idia on any ranking because he hasn’t gone through his character arch yet. Most of the characters personalities are set in stone because they’re going through or have already completed their character arch. Chapter 6 was not his arch, it was the first step to his personal growth
Just started watching and ready to defend Deuce because he has the massive advantage of actively wanting to do better for the people he cares about Post-Deuce Segment Commentary: Okay I can settle for that placement lmao, I'm glad he got the appreciation he deserves
As much as I love Idia I definitely agree with his placement here. At best I see him being a decent boyfriend (and even then it’s a stretch because of his baggage). Until he is willing to make an ACTUAL attempt to change I’ll happily have Rook,Vil,Jack, and Malleus as my husbands.
Honestly if you can unbury Riddle or Azul's sweet caring compassionate sides beneath their issues they become great sweet caring s\o's that is why I am so partial to them both too. They're those ones that come off as hard to deal with or could be really toxic, and even abrasive, but they are both very caring and kind hearted and hard working beneath the kinda walled off outer layer to their personalities. If chapter 4, and 6 are anything to go off of with Azul I think he is much softer a few layers down beneath the "get them before they get me" type attitude. Same with Riddle going out of his way to learn magicam to help Cater study, and when he fixes your tie in chapter 2 and switches his tune from "how dare you wear your uniform sloppy !" to the cute little smile and the "ok there you go now you look perfect" I'm a gay wreck and those two are my weakness too so I can't even blame you.
As for Sebek I feel if he chilled out on his basically worshiping Mal as a god (cause as also a Malleus simp on top of the other two I can't totally fault Sebek) but like my main thing is he's everything that would grate on a person about Riddle or Azul or Jack except that's like ALL they made Sebek and then added loud. I think he does probably have a sweet caring side too and he is obviously very loyal, but I think he'd just come off as too abrasive for most people to see past that aspect of him. I can't say I disagree with him being in no, but also I think he could be ok in a relationship if he put some of that devotion we see toward Mal toward his S\O but like also learned to tone it down a bit. He can be charming he just doesn't have that same sweet suave energy as the rest very often maybe they'll develop his character in chpt 7 thought when that comes out, and everything about Lillia reads as a good partner except he is chaotic, petty, and if you let him cook he would probably burn your kitchen down by honest accident (unless he cooks that poorly as a prank) Like Lillia seems like the perfect bf\husband but then picks a fight with the wrong person and while he could easily probably beat them with ease too he could also get someone killed XD like he almost literally did with Leona. So I think that's one negative there, he is mostly mischievious, but he has the same shit-talking and picking fights with his words problem as Idia at his worst, I don't think he'd EVER treat his partner that way, but I could see him getting someone in trouble .Sebek strikes me as the type that wouldn't be willing to be friends with benefits so he could be put a ring on it but literally only if you can tolerate his loud and abrasive.
Seeing Sebek immediately going into the 'no' category was absolutely hilarious! X'D I agree mostly with the tier list. It makes a lot of sense. I also want to know more about the Diasomia boys. I feel like we are working with too many crumbs to make a really good judgement on them.
Mal and Lillia I think we have enough to go off of at least but more always helps, the other two feel like we don't get much of their personality outside being in Mal's and Lillia's shadows though and the equestrian club, where they're in Riddle's instead.
Listen. Deuce and Kalim both hit my type personality wise... HOWEVER... If I could get a thruple going with Leona and Ruggie - that'd be THE dream for me. I could NOT marry Leona if it was just him and I - but Ruggie would make that work. 1) I can't cook, I need someone to prevent me from killing us by accident. 2) I do like cleaning, so with Ruggie we'd have all household chores covered. 3) Leona got the money, we don't need him to be anything but himself. I would die to cuddle with Leona - he's spent years perfecting the way to sleep comfortably, so he'd know just how to make someone dream. Forget about the sex, I just want the damn cuddles - and then squish Ruggie down inbetween us would be SO cozy. Imagine those pizza-movie-wine nights? TO DIE FOR.
As a Sam lover, the thing about Sam is that its incredibly unclear WHERE he gets his goods and materials from....like he probably is doing some black market, underground, or just plain old scamming to get the things he has. There is also the question of where and when his "shadow friends" are with him? Like are they always there? Only if there are actual shadows present? Or like, do they only come if he asks for them? What if the hat stays on while y'all do it??? What if his friends are just watching you do it?? Does he like anything else beyond his business? Are his hands cold?
I am here to fight for my boy Ace, if you are the one he will stick by you. He has shown to be fiercely loyal and genuinely cares about his friends. Book 4 anyone? Ghost Bride event anyone? And speaking of which canonically he is the only one to have ever had a girlfriend (or at least said to have had one). Did it work out? No, not all relationships do. But he is the only with the experience of a romantic relationship. Now would I marry Ace? No because I wouldn’t marry anyone. But, imo he’s high quality and if you’re the one he will stay with you though thick and thin.
Tbf he said he broke with his girlfriend because he "got bored", and while that's valid, it does mean he'd only really maintain the relationship for as long as it remained interesting. Also he's a massive tease. Definitely the kind of partner that makes fun of you. Not out of maliciousness, but because pissing u off is his love language.
Honestly everything you said about malleus is exactly why i struggle to commit to him as my all time fav. Yes he is amazing but royal life especially if you are common (god forbid you be human) would be very hard. Look at what sebek said about his mom. People kept telling her not to marry a human i can't imagine how much worse it will be for Malleus. Yes my OC is a dragon fae but i made her common. Even for someone that is like that, many would not want her with him because they ether want there daughter with him or would look down on her for not being noble. There so many problems with Malleus and where i do love him the fact he is a prince is a turn off. So i may just stick with my main husbando Lilia.
@@littlebeantwst agreed unfortunately it kind of huge turn off for me. I still love Mal and he will stay a fav but unless he does something crazy that just makes me head over heels he will stay under Lilia (and sometimes under Vil. They switch spots alot).
Same. My OC is a Fae, but they're not royal, but they're known in the Fae community for their, mysterious agenda. But it won't stop me from loving him.
@@mystique9130 i think what makes my character more complicated is she is like silver in reverse. She was found as a baby by jacks family and they adopted her. So she spent most her life around humans and Malleus, Lilia, and sebek are the first fae she ever met. Q
Azul being in the 50th anniversary category but it`s 50 years of therapy for both of you. And yes, it is indeed the only twisted wonderland tier list one could need, thank you for the video
I'll admit to be a bit sad that Ruggie wasn't higher up. Honestly I feel like he and Jamil have a lot of similar qualities. They are both incredibly capable and I think would be great family men. (Yes Jamil has more baggage but the two are in very similar positions in life and have made similar decisions) Also Ruggie drinks that respect women juice as well. Finally that line you said with Malleus with the 'tragic love between the immortal and human and how it would end with the human dying' just immediately made me think of Lord of the Rings. And now I cannot UNSEE Malleus as the male version of Arwen from Lord of the Rings.
Good job riddle for being a high ranking , I love him so much,here have a cookie 🍪…riddle is definitely the type to get soft on the person he likes and the world around him slows down, will make him smile when the s/o is around, proof the lot of me chatting with him in character ai he is a sweetheart
I can fix Idia + he would make robots to clean up etc also if he really loves someone imo he would be very sweet, Plus he's ND + he can get over his trauma he's just a teenager rn As a number one idia shroud lover even if he doesn't, I will fix him.
For Jade, I would be afraid of his mushroom cooking. I am surprised you didn't bring it up, but Azul and Floyd's own trauma as well as Rook becoming numb because Jade slipped mushrooms into the dish...I would be very concerned with my health. Very good list, and I will keep stanning my issue boys
As someone who knows very little about this agme but really wanted to know to the quality of the boys to know how to feel aboud them as people and also in pretty romance way also this helps me know who isnt a minor because you can nevee be to safe with schools
Do you think you two can do a rank episode for your favorite ships? I feel like that would be very entertaining and enlightening. Putting out there now: Jack x Epel is the healthiest and best ship.
Don't say that we are already doing at mach speed on EN. I kind of liking this small break (for me anyways) of no ssr i want. Besides i started saving fo Halloween and my boys (Lilia and Malleus) bdays. Of course they have to tag team me. 😭
@@littlebeantwst i wouldn't put that much faith in him personally but it feels oddly flattering you'd put him that high up xd IM SURPRISED YOU RESPONDED TWO YEARS AFTER POSTING THE VID THO HIIIIII
