The OP Ship Everyone Forgets About - Why the V-Wing Scared the Confederacy 

I love the V-Wings design. It's so badass and unique. Honestly it and the arc-170 are tied for my favourite star wars fighter craft.

Awesome! No wonder why I like that star fighter so much!!!

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@Madge Seedorff Wtf. Bot Detected. What Does This Have To Do With Star Wars? Huh?

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Bomber?

Yeah it’s weird they are the bomber for the republic

@@magnustherad3291 Yeah they had this unique shotgun-like spreadshot and then the bombs.

Its my favorite ship to use.

Before this video, I thought they were bombers!

Feel ya. I accidentaly got two. Only one still stands. So i'm kinda glad about the second one now.

Basically how we all feel regarding Legos.

Me too man, me and my little brother

Same

I still have mine lol missing the landing gear though

Performs similarly too

The V-Wing is better. Fight me.

@@geetslys Pfft Nah, A-wing is the best there is at what it does. And it's also good to smash through SSD's windshields ;) Pew Pew!!

@@geetslys It also needs more love. Would be nice if fans make a big space battle with these black/grey bad girls taking out Rebel fighters, droid craft, and/or Yuuzhan Vong...

@@geetslys Hey, man, don't point that anti-fighter blaster at me. Still, you mention the clone wars having a lot of fighters... but... does it really? The N-1 doesn't count since its a Naboo-specific fighter outside of games. So there is what, a *V-wing* (light fighter), the *ARC* (heavy fighter which is definitely NOT just "aggressive recon" and is frankly such a good thing that it is something that I can only imagine the rebels didn't use more due to maintenance or them just mostly being gone by that point... probably the latter as they still used Y-wings), the (speaking of) *Y-wing,* (bomber, lasted long time, etc), and that shieldless fighter that they gave to Jedi. I mean, yes, there was the Z-95 Headhunter too (precursor to the X-wing), but you don't see too many of them usually in canon battles for some reason. Also, there was that other V-wing (which looked more like an upside-down V with a vertical line added) that predated the better and much more frequently seen V-wing (which does also look more like a V, at least from the side, but then the precursor was called "V-19" as a designation, whereas the "V-wing" was more a nickname as it was technically called the Alpha 3 Nimbus or something). I mean, for on-screen stuff, and not counting naboo, you mostly see what, 3-4 different republic fighters. Along with their favored gunship? Even the empire has more variants of Tie Fighter than that. And they are mostly just replacements or upgrades to either the standard tie, or (less commonly) the tie bomber. V-wing >>> Tie Fighter though. Some later ties, I don't know. look, just saying, but shields are a GOOD thing to put on a fighter. Even if they are compact and weak and don't get in the way, they still kinda help against small arms fire, micrometeorites, and not dying to a single lucky shot from some noob rebel or other neophyte in a complex war machine who, if you have shields, will just bang your ship up a bit and NOT kill you before you complete whatever attack run or objective you are after. The A-wing got that right though too. So, um, yeah. Anyway... Yeah. The V wing (nimbus) was a pretty good fighter/intercepter... um/whatever game devs want it to be (sometimes its a fighter-bomber for some reason?).

We need to make that series canon.

@@geetslys But then, we'd need to make Dark Empire canon, as Crimson Empire is a sequel of sorts.

@@sambridgers9543 the last thing we want is ANOTHER story about how Palpatine came back from the dead

Yeah it’s starting to get old

@@senatorluxbonteri6065 At least Dark Empire did it FAIRLY better than Episode IX

Ty

This is the same man talking about anakins warcrimes in Yerbana

Bro what is this gmod rp 14yo discord fan fiction shit?

And your shit don’t even make sense, you got a clone trooper talking about the empire and rebels, while also talking about V wings like it’s still the clone wars. Why is a Captain a platoon commander, and why is a platoon commander also a scout? Fuck they are a siege battalion why would they want a scout with the qualifications to be a company commander. Not gonna get into why a “Siege Battalion” makes no sense because that’s on star wars lore writers, not you. I read their wookiepedia page and it seems like they can’t figure out what they actually want that unit to do (it says they are infantry but actually they are tanks, but actually they don’t use tanks they use ATRTs, but they only siege so they never use ATRTs and instead they use ISP speeders, expect that also makes no sense for a siege.

@@klidthelid8361 Yes

It could also be a bomber in case its arsenal is right. In other words, the ship could be deemed as a multirole snubfighter/bomber/interceptor.

Then they used Greivous' fighter as the CIS bomber.

@@Straswa I must admit, despite its slowness, it has quite a lot of bombs.

Its a very versatile and modular starfighter

Same goes for the real world F-4 phantom, it could operate as both a bomber and an interceptor. Fun fact, interceptors aren’t supposed to be highly maneuverable like Star Wars would have you believe, they’re supposed to be very, very fast.

Welp, you summarized the video in one sentence.

Books: Entire field armies being demolished with dozens of Venators being called in for a small planet TCW: 10 soldiers, take it or leave it

Gotta love/hate production timelines and budgets on a tv show :(

@@broketoon7996 it's embarrassing that this so called "TCW" is smaller than some skirmishes in the galactic Civil war

@@laisphinto6372 again...technological, time, AND BUDGET constraints. And no...none of the og battles were that much bigger. If you notice you only see like 5 or 6 ships in a new hope fighting at a time. If that. Empire ground combat looked neat. Because they had extras which dont require alot of time compared to cgi / models. Jedi, actually look at the battle scenes, scale was big. But not much was actually going on while the camera was there. Most things were static

Budget of animation production and time.

And grass is green.

@@geetslys wait what

Well he DID have ulimited power

Yes because the senate IS palpatine

I feel like they'll just roll out TIE fighter too early and ignore the lore

Yeah, hope they appear and try to clobber the squad... until backup arrives, of course.

@@goodmind4940 Nah, they're here.

@@sambridgers9543 that's good

For a Bomber, it's surprisingly good at dogfighting.

Agreed, always wondered why the V-wing was a bomber in that game.

@@Straswa there was no canon Republic bomber in 2005, and the V wing was only a background ship with no lore at that time, so they used it to fill the Republics lack of bomber for that game

@@KoalaTContent Makes sense I guess.

Of course today we know that the republic should have had the Y wing and the CIS the Hyena for their bombers, but at the time it wasn't yet established what bombers those factions used. It's the same reason why the Rebellion got LAAT gunships for their transports instead of U wings

Not even mentionning it would be a formidable boarding unit, obliterating everything in hangars/docks.

Well, that would depend on them not being run by morons.

bruh when that game made the v wing a bomber lmao

Yeah, what a waste. One season of at least 13 eps just wasn't enough.

B-Wing fans where you at?

X-Wing be like: Excuse me?

@@geetslys reject Y-Wing, revert to B-Wing

@@physicists9486 i don’t like the x-wing

@@Heisenberg-so9vj *visible confusion*

Design-wise it's interesting but in term of story-telling it's a bit weird. The Jedi and Sith have fought each other for centuries and they each use distinctive visual cues to identify themselves with, e.g. red light sabers vs rainbow sabers. Surely, someone, a Jedi archive keeper or a civilian geek, would've noticed and questioned why the Republic is building war machines that look like the supposedly-extinct Sith designs. I don't mind if triangular, wedge ships and flap-winged fighters actually did originate in the prequels but that wasn't the case. We see Siths religiously using such obvious designs since the Old Republic. It's like if the European Union one day revealed their new army filled with modernized but still boxy Tiger tanks and sporting stylized swastikas.

@@dareka9425 In-universe, s-foils and space wedges are popular choices because fighters with s-foils are renowned for greater mobility, and space wedge designs create a ship that has nothing but armored edges covered in guns pointing at the enemy, with a low defensive profile considering the actual size of the ship. Both are used fairly extensively by pretty much everyone in the galaxy for so long because they're just good at what they do. Additionally, tech in star wars doesn't advance as fast as you think, star wars is kind of like the end game of stellaris where you have everything researched and are just streamlining your tech more and more.

@@KaptainSparta Technically you're right. Story telling-wise it still doesn't make sense because those tech are used as recognizable symbols to represent a faction. So it's still weird that the Jedi, especially those that take care of the archives, doesn't realize that they are using tech designs used specifically by their ancient mortal enemy.

Gottem.

Our wish came true

We see them in the first episode on Kamino so it wouldn't be a silly idea to see them in the future episode. Hopefully we also see Imperial Venators.

@@crimsoncarnotaurus if only we didn’t

@@sugdolomar True that! I hope we get to see the Imperial ARC-170 Starfighter next

It shouldn’t have been used at all, it was far too bulky and losing one meant losing three men, in the long run the ARC-170 was not a very economical craft and if the war dragged on the republic would suffer from extended losses on fighters that just aren’t that good

@@senatorluxbonteri6065 It's not that bad. It was a jack of all stats.

Seems to me, with the 3-person crew and tail-gunner, the ARC-170 should have been a more capable fighter, similar to the Ghost. But they didn't show it that way.

@@jedironin380 I think the implications are that it was already out-dated when the Clone Wars started, and was all but forced into service due to the total lack of something to do the job. Old technology that used to do the job, but newer advances render it all but obsolete.

That would be cool :)

This is getting too much. If this continues, there will be a galaxy sized warship in the future.

I dont like this overly much. Making the ships larger will make captial ships even less manuverable than they are now (Comeing from someone that plays Star Wars RTS games). Making a ship bigger doesn't make it cooler......

Seeing as Disney is relying on the pickup truck method of making things cooler? Bigger but with as little improvement as possible

I personally like the theory that Star Wars technology only improves during times of war. When mass resources are pulled to push the technological limit. In times of peace, tech stagnates cause there is no need or little incentive to do so. Just a theory.

There are actually a few ships that have been around for an incredible amount of time, such as the dreadnought class heavy cruiser and invincible class cruiser.

The K-Wing seems more like a B-29 to me.

@@geetslys The B-29 was a long range bomber, though, plus it had some engineering problems, just like the E-Wing; it's also famous or infamous because of what happened in August 1945...

Yes, but did you know they were actually Interceptors instead of Bombers?

Yeah, my ROTS vehicle line, Titanium series, Battlegrounds, and Empire at War mods disagree.

Here!

@@geetslys Thx for reply!!!

Reporting in

How many years were they used for i think you made a spelling mistake?

@@DanBen07 is now better? Thabks for the advice pal

True, but they weren't launched, sadly.

Agreed. Never mess with the classics since 4000 BBY.

And a better predecessor at that.

Accept better in every metric except speed

Actually it's the A Wing's direct predecessor.

​@@sargesrecap2267 V wing is faster then a tie fighter

But.. I don’t like sand. It’s coarse and rough, and irritating, and it gets everywhere.

*tusken raider war cry*

@@LucyWest370 then you are my enemy *ignites lightsaber

@@ontasbulent5709 I will do what I must

@@LucyWest370 *throws sand into your face

and couples episodes of the bad batch

@@harrycheseldine9892 yes

The tank droids were in the pilot movie

It isn't a bomber like in OG battlefront

I think it appeared in bad batch.