Yet another great talk from International Spy Museum, these talks are very interesting always. Great invited speakers telling about history, and when the papers are released in the future it will be very interesting to see how true they are.
they wont be released because the whole operation was a lie......On the David Frost AROUND THE WORLD SHOW, Mr. Frost did an interview with the former president of Pakistan Benazir Bhutto and she revealed on that show to Mr Frost that Osama Bin Laden was assassinated by an intelligence officer in the Pakistan ISI called Omar Shake, Mrs Benazir Bhutto was herself assassinated not long after that revelation on the David Frost show, SO I KNOW when Obama came out with that cr4p he was killed in the compound was a outright fabrication. The video interview is still available, albeit now in very poor picture quality form on RU-vid, the good ones was edited out where she had said it or most of them removed, But the former president of Pakistan Mrs Bhutto told us who had killed Osama Bin laden, well before this fairytale came out he was killed and buried at sea rubbish.
No Sir. This isn't a great talk. It is mostly lies. He repeats the us lies about this. Want the real story? Google: Seymour Hersh Osama bin laden killing.
At 34:20 he says that the NSA discovered that the courier not only turned the phone off, but also took the battery out. How did they know that he took the battery out? Did the phone communicated when it was turned off? Back then there were no smartphones.
They are never really completely off unless either the power source is removed or a mechanical on/off switch is used (which has never been the case for a mobile phone afaik). That's also why you may experience the power-button on your phone or your laptop not actually working when the device's OS is hanging for some reason; they are not directly connected to the battery on the electronic circuit level. It follows that the citcuit will draw a tiny amount of power while being off to be able to respond to you pressing the power-on button. Depending on the phone, that may or may not include responding to signals from the antenna.
Excellent question. Given the venue hosting the talk, although I can speak from a place of expertise that the direct answer has been accurately given, it seems appropriate to also discuss how someone without direct experience would know. Take the case of a refrigerator light. How does one “know” that the lightbulb is off when the fridge is closed? Today, you could simply put a GoPro or your smartphone in there and close the door, right? Ok. Next is where one gets into the analyst dimension. You put your phone in your fridge while filming and close the door. Reopen the fridge, check the video, light went out. Now, look at why you wanted to gather this intelligence, and what purpose the data should serve. Is the lightbulb burning out abnormally often in your fridge leading you to suspect the switch is stuck shut? Is this an entertainment activity using mini fridge in a hotel room? Do you have a yogurt company as a sponsor & need to keep the light on to film an ad? Does the fridge even need to be cold? Can the lighting vary from closed to open fridge on film for this client? Or do you run an appliance store and so many people are having lightbulb issues that you need to do on-site QC? If so, are you recording the details to statistically quantify in a trade dispute how much you will pay for the next shipment due to “proof” of the manufacturer cutting corners. To reconnect this line of analysis to cell phones, if there is no physical connection to a source of power, the hiding party can be sure there is no transmission from that device. If the observer has a statistically significant duration of time where no data is received, in between bouts of communication, over a consistent time, then it is reasonable to conclude no-failures are less likely than the fail-safe method is in use.
@@Rishnai If you leave a refrigerator a gap wide open, you will see, that the lightbulb turns off before the door makes contact with the fridge. That's how you know (the easiest way) it is off when it is closed.
You desperately need a live audio engineer for you events with the ability to operate a graphic equalizer. The constant ~420hz and 900hz resonance in the mic makes this very difficult to listen to.
Anti-terrorism is like baseball. It's knowing when to break the rules. I have Canadian and South African friends that said that is was wrong to violate Pakistani borders. I only had to laugh and reply that if the USA had informed the Pakistanis, UBL would have fled ASAP, and the fact that helicopters attacked within one kilometer of the Pakistani military academy and they did not respond meant that Pakistan cooperated and provided information. Be that as it may, UBL is dead and long gone, which is not nearly enough punishment.
Ffs it is the Pakistanis that gave up OBL. Ofc they knew. The thing Peter here is lying about is how they found him in the first place. Seymour Hersh reported the whole story. Go to his articles if you want the truth. What Peter spins here is incredibly convoluted BS that was concocted to shield Pakistan from internal backlash.
He talks up Brennan, a self-admitted communist? Feinstein? She had a Chinese spy as her personal driver. Ron Weiden? Mr squishy tongue who clearly has no skeletons in his closet?
Bloody fascinating. Interesting channel, too. Came here for the Robert Hanssen story. PS Curious why he'd mention that the analyst was female - it's the 21st century.
Haha, I'm not sure my father being a big Nazi would be something I'd boast about, exactly! More like, "my dad?! Oh he doesn't do much, he's uh, retired, yes, retired early. From what job? Um, weeell, um, he, waas a, a tax collector, yep, that's it!"
1:16:05 He's wrong. According to Rob O'Neill, Matt Bissonette (alias 'Mark Owen'), and Will Chesney- the only 3 publicly confirmed SEALs on the Osama bin Laden raid -their CIA briefings explicitly stated the Pakistani govt knew bin Laden was living in that compound in Abattobad. What was unclear was their level of cooperation in it. So, yes, the Pakistani govt was fully aware of bin Laden's residence there.
He even paused for the perfect amount of time to imply he considered saying “bugs” or “wires” before using the venue-appropriate term. Excellent example of poking fun at the power who hosts you!
After the fact this guy was wrong that Al qaeda was not a threat any more.I think he had a sick connection to the man . His views are interesting but I wouldn`t trust his conclusions.
The big breakthrough was getting Abu Ahmed al Kuwaiti's name... Ibrahim Saeed. From there Bin Ladens fate was sealed. Is there any more info on how this name was obtained?.
@@susanmahr6068 Hi Susan. Yes, the runner. My understanding is that Guantanamo revealed his nom de plume Abu Ahmed etc which translated simply means the brother of Ahmed from Kuwait. Getting his real name was what enabled the phone tap between him in Pakistan and his family in Kuwait which ultimately brought the curtain down. None of the documentaries ever make it clear how that name was obtained and thats the juicy bit.
This video presentation is just propagating the official narrative. On the contrary, evidence highly suggests bin laden died in December/ 01. Google/ RU-vid Dr. Steven Pieczenik- 9/119/11-bin Laden. Steven, a highly educated man who served in 3 different administrations stated unequivocally, that bin laden died in December/ 01 from complications from Marfan Syndrome and being on dialysis didn't help the dire situation he was in. It's no coincidence his number 2 guy was a physician... Bin Laden, aka Tim Osman in the 80's was a CIA asset. In all my years of research, I can say unequivocally, that 9/11 was indeed an inside job. "The US government made a decision not to tell the truth about what happened." ..."What the government and military officials told Congress, the media and the public about who knew what when- was almost entirely and inexplicably untrue." - John Farmer, Senior Counsel, 9/11 Commission
@@markwinter7511 What open source analysts would do to solve the juicy bit today with modern technology may be a fun thought experiment if one accepts the assumption that major intelligence agencies are always decades ahead of pop fiction. That is, how would jerks online dox an online user today? The tools have changed, the methods have not. Proliferation isn’t simply applicable to kinetic means!
This is just propagating the official narrative. Google/ RU-vid Dr. Steven Pieczenik- 9/11-bin Laden. A highly educated man who served in three different administrations stated unequivocally, that bin laden died of complications from Marfan Syndrome in December/ 01 and being on dialysis didn't help the dire situation he was in. His number 2 man was a physician.. . Bin Laden, aka Tim Osman, was a CIA asset. In all my years of research, I can say unequivocally, that 9/11 was indeed an inside job. "The US government made a decision not to tell the truth about what happened." ..."What the government and military officials told Congress, the media and the public about who knew what when- was almost entirely and inexplicably untrue." - John Farmer, Senior Counsel, 9/11 Commission
This video presentation is just propagating the official narrative. On the contrary, evidence highly suggests that bin laden died in December/ 01 from complications due to Marfan Syndrome, coupled by being on dialysis. It's no coincidence his number 2 guy was a physician... Google/ RU-vid Dr. Steven Pieczenik- 9/11-bin Laden. Bin Laden, aka Tim Osman, was a CIA asset in the 80's.
At 1:03:10 he says “Al Queda or groups like it have not taken over any Muslim country”. Well that statement aged like milk. Especially considering the context of that comment.
Well it was correct when this was recorded 9 years ago, and quite frankly, he didn't say anything to the effect of "they will never ever in the future be able to..." which would have been a foolish thing to say even then, so in that sense I don't see a problem. It's just strange to see or read something years later with the benefit of hindsight and then pass judgement of what people said with the information avaliable to them at the time.
@57 minutes he gets something a little bit off. If a helicopter loses power, it's actually able to move to the ground slowly. The pilot can still control certain blade angles which allows them to cause the blade to spin more or less in the wind. So basically they let the wind spin their rotor quickly - then transfer that speed into upward lift by cutting more air. Then allowing the blade to spin quickly before before harvesting lift from the speed. The problem is when you lose power close to the ground and you don't have much time to do the maneuver I mention. So helicopters are like cats in that a mid range fall is the most dangerous.
what happened wasn't power loss,. Due to the high compound walls...the downward rotar wash had nowhere to go...but back up...causing severe turbulence....with no room to recover...as they were so low to the ground (i.e. on landing decent) it bucked wildly and crashed. there's a really good 3d animation of this crash on YT...i can't remember the link...but if you search for '3d animation of bin laden raid'....you will get it
@@dannycoker6439 he is not. he mentions wind which is ridiculous. Wind only affects movement relative to Gnd. Helicopters can convert forward velocity to lift by dropping the tail as long as the helicopter has forward speed. If not then there is an area of flight performance close to the ground where a fatal crash is inevitable. The outcome of the crash depends a lot on how much fuel is carried and whether the tanks fail.
Wait a minute! The Sun doesn't "go around the Earth"? - Great presentation! I wonder if President Obama's call to former President Bush after the success of the raid on Abbottabad exists in either transcript or audio?
This video clip is a total lie and cover up. These people are trained to do this and make it sound believable they even write false books to back it up. Follow Steve Pechenik on Bin Laden. Binny did Not Orchestrate this.
@@gaoxiaen1 I don't buy into the Hersh story. But you could Google/ RU-vid dr. Steve Pieczenik- 9/11: bin Laden. Bin Laden most likely died from complications due to Marfan Syndrome while on dialysis. His number 2 guy, Ayman al- Zawahiri was a doctor. Bin Laden was slowly dying. Life span of a Marfanoid was around 45 to 50 then. After years of research I can say unequivocally, that Navy Seal raid was bullshit and 9/11 was a joint US/Israeli/ Saudi/ Pakistani intelligence false flag operation.
What Strikes me is that these People Talk as if they Know Everything that's Going on and they Don't they will Never Know the Full Story the Federal Agencies have a Stove Pipe on Information what Goes In Does Not Come Back Out .
Have you ever heard of deceleration? I guess not but when a plane goes through a steel building and comes out the other side and you believe it you really do believe in the Boogeyman
At the 1hour & 19 min mark the authors says he does not expect the Taliban to ever gain power - I am not putting him/his statements down, but “politics is politics which cannot be predicted” n leads to unthinkable outcomes as the Taliban are back in power in Afghanistan.
I don't understand how Bin Laden's children and wives would not have been considered civilian casualties if they would have went with the B2 bombing raid. I have 0 sympathy toward terrorists. But would you be OK with executing the immediate family of a serial killer just because they are related to a serial killer?
Its unfortunate but when a man like OBL possesses as grave a threat to our national security then well be forced TO KILL HIM AT ALL COSTS. REGRETABLY the potential for collaterol damage is unavoidable. The GOOD NEWS IS it teaches others that IF you possess a threat like that then you CHOOSE to DECIDE to risk your family or live without them UNTILL WE FIND AND TERMINATE YOUR SORRY ASS....
No, but if the serial killers family and or friends were assisting the serial killer and enabling the serial killer to continue murdering people, then yes, they are fair game.
@@skuzzlebutt9745 no, he’s rotting away deep in the ocean, the only angels are that have gone to heaven are the men, WOMEN & CHILDREN he murdered. His senseless slaughter has only gotten the vile narcissistic, egomaniac, religious extremist a very cold watery grave.
Once upon a time, in a land far far away, building 7 was built. All the columns are 0% intact and just stacked on top of each other, with no welds or bolts. Larry Silverstein called 2 leprechauns and asked them to pull building 7. So the 2 leprechauns got some rope and tied it to a unicorn and said "pull it" so the unicorn pulled it and humpty dumpty had a great fall and all the kings horses and all the kings men said there was no controlled demolition, but the leprechauns and unicorn have weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, so lets bomb the middle east until theres nothing left but oil and we can take that oil and make a lot of $$$. Then the marines assassinated the Osama unicorn and ceremoniously placed the dead unicorn in the ocean to be at peace with his mermaid friends But the 2 leprechauns are still fairy tale terrorist so all the kings men can bomb the hell out of anything cause the leprechauns have avoided the most sophisticated surveillance system known
Brian - don't forget that they owned the US including the most secured place on earth (which has no cameras) but somehow Tel Aviv, Baghdad or Rijad wasn't a pile of rubble before all of that. Not even a scratch. Not even CIA (by their own words) couldn't do this. Of course... only cavemen with an easy access to planes (from airports run by a Mossad company) can do this...
@@fillipo1972 yeah I don't know about the DNA but I researched this in the mean time and it seems they threw his body into the sea so as not to provoke further islamic hate. My theory is that the public version of events like this is different from what actually transpired but thats not to say it didn't happen.. Like a faked moon landing presented to the public while the actual one happening seperately behind the scenes. It's all so very political, I mean considering the cold war, they couldn't really afford to have stuff go wrong on air, it would have basically amounted to a huge loss for the US. Or like with aliens and ufos. Sure they out there, with some probably crashing and the military reverse-engineering the crafts so most the sightings are of human ufos lol. So they cover it up with a conspiracy cos its the safest and easiest (reminds me of Vampire the Masquerade)..
@@chrisrosenkreuz23 I like the reference to the moon landing theories, how they couldnt afford for things to go wrong live on-air in front of the whole world. I believe OBL is dead, possibly as a result of military action, even if his death was an indirect consequence.
It's all a charade for the sheep. Google/ RU-vid Dr. Steven Pieczenik- 9/11-bin Laden. Highly intelligent and served in 3 different administrations. He unequivocally stated that bin laden died in December/ 01 from complications due to Marfan Syndrome, coupled by dialysis. It's no wonder his number 2 guy was a physician.... Bin Laden, aka Tim Osman, was a CIA asset in the 80's. A giant deception and charade.
@@alwagner9722 yeah but by the looks of it, it isn't one charade but multiple charades all over. There's two sides, the ones pushing order and the ones pushing chaos. Look into Robert Anton Wilson "Illuminatus!" if you're curious about the latter. My impression is that names and organisations matter little because of the infiltrations. Political Ideology matters even less imho. I heard of the Tim Osman thing and it makes perfect sense: seen all the spy shows out there to know that's basically the way these things turn out. Watch "The Looming Tower" if you want a clear picture of what went down behind the scenes with the blue-eyed boys defending America and the sheer level of incompetence involved behind the scenes. Just one monolithical conspiracy seems unrealistic to me because of the level of effort necessary to maintain. It also is WAY more convenient to believe, putting the mind at rest because at least there's someone at the helm no matter how evil, moving things in one direction consistently. Yep, basically us conspiracy theorists are incurable optimists at heart. Who'd have thought? I hope you don't feel I am disagreeing with you, because I am not.
How could u mention the 20th hijacker and not mention Jose Melendez-Perez. An American hero who quite possibly saved countless lives. This is not something to just non chalantly gloss over. Please anyone reading this comment look up his story and see just how amazing that story is. As Americans we owe this man a great deal of praise.
USA EL ANILLO COMO LOS MUSULMANES ARABES . SE HIZO FAMOSO GRACIAS A OSAMA BIN LADEN. Y FINALMENTE NO PUDO CON OSAMA BIN LADEN ES SU OBCESION..INEVITABLE
Islamic State agree that the group emerged out of al-Qaeda in Iraq as a response to the U.S. invasion in 2003. They also agree that it was shaped primarily by a Jordanian jihadist and the eventual head of al-Qaeda in Iraq, Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
Why would we trust anything that the Islamic state says? Their own doctrine states that it's fine to lie to advance your cause, especially to non-Muslims. Even Bin Ladin laughed about how most of the 9/11 hijackers were tricked into carrying out a suicide mission.
OBL died of kidney failure in December, 2001. This after he was visited by the CIA in an American hospital in Dubai while receiving dialysis in June of that year (3 months before 9/11). OBL was a british MI6 agent on loan to the CIA, who then used him as a patsy just like they did with Oswald at the Kennedy assassination.
When those that have 10% support are 100% psychotic fanatical murderers, they can run the show without being a majority. Few people of any religion are willing to spray a crowd with automatic weapons, don an explosive vest, drive a car bomb or stone someone to death.
JESUS IS MESIAS WITH 3 COMPANY IN THE CENTURY XX AND XXI....MASHIAH???? MARIAN THE MOTHER OSAMA. THE FATHER CONSTRUCTOR .....WHAT HAPPEN ABOUT THE UNLOVE????
There is a very real possibility that the Pakistanis were pressured to give him up and the lead up to his demise was fabricated as a cover for that government.
What About that Federal Agent that Flew to California to Talk to a Hollywood Movie Director the F.B.I. had to Send Federal Agents to Grab him by the Ear and Bring him Back?
