The Original Lumix S5 Worth It Any More? -Comparison with the S5IIX

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Let's compare the original Lumix S5 to the latest Lumix S5IIX. Is the original S5 worth it any more in 2024? Two photographers, two cameras, two shooting styles.
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@azoique Месяц назад

Still love my S5. Never felt limited by it. So used to the contrast based AF from earlier Lumix cameras. Image and video quality is fantastic. Some of the best value in cameras IMO. Seen the S5 body for sale for like €600. Bargain.

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

Thanks for sharing!

@therealboogie23 29 дней назад

I went with the S5 to save some money using my first full frame from Panasonic and I love it! If you never used one you are missing out! The price to quality is unmatched!

@Princeton_James День назад

It's hard being both feet in with Sony and Panasonic $$$$! I hate calling cameras "fun" but there is definitely something unique about handling a Lumix. They are just beautiful cameras. The image quality and colors straight out of camera are excellent.

@AllenReinecke Месяц назад

I love my S5 ii. I'm not really into videography, only stills. I still use my FZ2500 when I need a compact carry. I like how Panasonic releases firmware not just to fix issues but to give users new features. It's like getting a new camera! ❤

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

Thanks for sharing.

@enjoygary Месяц назад

do you have any sigma lenses? would you recommend any lenses?

@AllenReinecke Месяц назад

I have the Sigma 60-600. Heavy but a good lens for wildlife. The 70-300 is a lighter alternative I use when I don't want to lug around the 600. I also have the Sigma 14-24, which I use for astrophotography. Lumix 20-60 kit lens and the 35 f1.8 rounds out my lenses. I also use my Lumix FZ2500 when I don't want to carry the heavy backpack. 😊

@AndreBerg99 Месяц назад

Still have and love my Original S5 beside my G(H)-System. Recently did an Event-Shoot inside a factory with low available light without any problems with the simple 20-60mm and the 50mm. The client was very pleased. No need to change. Even for video I never needed PD-AF. Nice to have in the G9II, gives some more safety in focusing - that‘s it.

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

Thanks so much for sharing your experience.

@rodmehta5356 Месяц назад

Interesting, I was wondering about the same thing. I will be hanging on to my S5, especially for night scapes and astrophotography. Have to admit though, I used the S5 for a few portrait sessions and would have liked a better hit-rate (eye detect at f2), which was about 65%. Whilst face/skin gets blurred slightly in post anyway, I want tack sharp eyes. Speaking about eyes, I'm a left eye shooter with a big nose and find the longer looking viewfinder on the S5 II probably worth the upgrade. Need to keep saving!

@j_taylor Месяц назад

Interesting that you mention left-eye. I'm very left-eye dominant and this affects my gear choices. For example, I noticed my new Lumix was changing focal points erratically, and figured out that my nose was activating the touchscreen back panel. Since then, I disable any touchscreens or just shoot like a T-Rex with my arms crooked out in front. Maybe this is why I find rangefinders more comfortable to use.

@timobjork7968 13 дней назад

Continuous Autofocus is way much better in S5II, finds face really quick… S5 AF accuracy in CA mode not really good at all. Also notice with S5 flash photography (portrait) DFD sometimes do back or front focus to face if use CA 😅 eyes not sharp enough. S5 single autofocus better if your shooting target not moving too much.

@amounifnd 22 дня назад

Great review. Main benefit of S5 is size now

@mattisulanto 22 дня назад

Thanks.

@ruuddirks5565 Месяц назад

I like the common sense about the focus system

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

Thanks! People often analyze things too far🙂

@antonmuhlbock9486 Месяц назад

Great video very funny too thanks greetings from Perth

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

Glad you enjoyed it, thanks.

@MrJapanforce Месяц назад

Excellent video Matti. I am proud user of Lumix cameras since 2008. For me , Lumix is all my life. Currect user of G9ii with zuiko 25mm 1.2 pro. Just amazing. I am glad to hear you love so much the Lumix quality, ergonomics, video capabilities and the famous Panasonic reliability. Keep going.

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

Thanks for sharing and watching!

@GeekyNerdyTechy Месяц назад

haha. Is that enabler in Australia me? 🤣 Glad you got one Matti! 📸

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

That would be you indeed😀

@maukkas Месяц назад

Better be careful when Shane offers you a camera... 💸😅

@GeekyNerdyTechy Месяц назад

@@maukkas haha :)

@wj6182 Месяц назад

nice entertaining format on this topic

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

Thank you.

@zenonbillings9008 Месяц назад

❤. excellent video regarding the camera comparisons, and especially see the both of you together in the same video . I have both of these cameras . on one I have a zoom and on the other a prime so when I'm out shooting I don't need to change lenses on locations which can leave the sensor vulnerable to possible dust entering the camera. have been a lumix shooter for the past 11 years. no regrets ! THANKS FOR THIS GREAT VIDEO. zen billings in canada

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

Thanks for another visit to the channel. We appreciate your comments every time😀

@raksh9 22 дня назад

For photography, the only thing really limiting the S5 is the autofocus. For video, it could do with some more robust codecs for high framerates. The GH7 and G9 II shore up the framerate/codec issues, which is where I'll be heading in the next year or so. The combination of GH7 and S5 will suit me for at least another five-six years, and I've had the S5 since 2021.

@JaaniicMobile Месяц назад

Nobody is ever talking about AF options and features. I love my Lumix G9's single point and SCP (scope) and other AF features. I wish my Sony A7C have so much control. I wonder if S5II(x) still have the same old tools but with great speed and accuracy. If yes, S5II(x) could be my dream camera.

@gimmy4266 28 дней назад

Il punto singolo della G9 è fantastico e comodissimo infatti mi chiedo perché lo hanno tolto sulla G9ii 😢 AF single point Is not possible with G9ii 😢 so with G9, the AF single point is fantastic

@Thevikingcam 12 дней назад

If we forget the AF, the S5 mk I proress RAW video is actually better than the 5IIX has. Better DR and colors "out of the box" for RAW (with LOG conversion) ..

@maukkas Месяц назад

What really crowns both of those cameras, is the 50mm f1.8. It is a fantastic lens - sharp and with great contrast.

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

That is one of the nicest 50mm F1.8s around.

@aviatorman8 Месяц назад

Really really nice 😂 I love Panasonic cameras; it’s how I found your channel years ago. Something about their JPG and color science as Aleksi mentioned. I still have the mighty S1R and the way it feels in the hand is so good (though I don’t take it on hikes in the mountains).

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

Thanks! The S1/R certainly feels good in hand but it's not the camera for hiking trips😅

@aviatorman8 Месяц назад

@@mattisulanto you’re right; too big and heavy, and expensive. I can’t imagine climbing 4000 ft elevation with that thing. But at least I could use it to defend myself from cougars and bears 😂

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

@@aviatorman8 True, any predator would run as soon as you pulled out your S1R😀

@aviatorman8 Месяц назад

@@mattisulanto 😂

@Biosynchro Месяц назад

If you like to shoot with adapted manual focus SLR lenses, maybe the older S5 is the ideal camera.

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

Thanks. Yeah, the S5 would be perfect for that.

@angeloplayforone Месяц назад

The original S5 is a bargain if you wants a FF camera and doing mostly stills and some basic video. I agree that if you do basic manual focus video the S5 is great. The S5 is underrated beginner camera that competes in the same pricerange as Canon RP, Nikon Z5 and old Sony A7II.

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

You are absolutely correct. Thanks!

@milohess8715 Месяц назад

@@mattisulanto Would not call call the S5 a beginner camera. No problems using it pro as a photojournalist in the NYC media market.

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

@@milohess8715 That's even better if it works also for a hard core PJ😀

@SideshowBob44 16 дней назад

Comparing both autofocus systems on a static portrait subject and then saying there is no difference, try it on a moving subject where the new one is much better :)

@jhj_dk Месяц назад

Unless it rains, you don't need a lens hood for that lens. I have really tried to get it to flare just a little. But it is impossible 😂 A fantastic lens btw.

@seaeagles6025 Месяц назад

Hi Matti, it's good that the video Focus is good on your S5. There are some cameras that tick all the boxes but there video lets them down. I liked the photo you took of the giant Green foot, i think it was a foot and a person right in the middle, that was a great composition. Also i liked the photo that Alexi took of the Cruise Ship. It was a good idea that you and Alexi took Portrait shots to see the similarities of both cameras. It was an all-round fun video to watch and great conversations. Thanks Matti 😊.

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

Thanks again for your comment!

@seaeagles6025 Месяц назад

@@mattisulanto Your very welcome Matti 😊

@busydadscooking001 Месяц назад

alexi so relaxed lol. "i think" tomorrow i have a client shoot... :D

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

He is very relaxed always😀

@jonastruemper637 28 дней назад

Great comparison, Matti! The only thing I am missing for the L-mount system - that keeps me from trying - is a compact 40mm prime. I am only aware of the Sigma 40/1.4, which is a heavy one. Any recommendation?

@mattisulanto 28 дней назад

Thanks. I'm not aware of any compact 40mm for the L mount. Sigma offers some nice relatively compact Contemporary series lenses but the closest they have are a 45mm and a 35mm.

@lukeduffield3263 Месяц назад

I have 2 x S5 and an S1H. The image from the S5II / X is too digital/sharp for me. Let's hope the S1Hmk2 or whatever sorts this.

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

Have you tried dialing down the sharpness?

@lukeduffield3263 Месяц назад

@@mattisulanto Yes - still noticeably sharper than the original S5. It's a known issue. Hopefully, if the S1Hmk2 has a OLPF, that might help.

@aiseurnae5976 29 дней назад

I agree, and in 4K, the details are really rough.

@mathish1477 Месяц назад

I just chose the s5 over the s5.2 (new). I thought the colour were slightly better. Can it be true that the colour are different?

@vladislavihl Месяц назад

I have the same feeling!

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

I think the colors are slightly different indeed.

@aiseurnae5976 29 дней назад

yes they are, I have both

@Garrus4Spectre Месяц назад

I just got the original S5 with the 85mm 1.8 for €1000 (used, but low shutter count). I'm really curious if I'll prefer it to my MFT gear...

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

Thanks for sharing. That's a good price and I hope you'll like it.

@FoivosLoxias 28 дней назад

So what was the weather like? One seems to feel comfortably in a tshirt.

@mattisulanto 28 дней назад

It's the Finnish summer weather😀

@pablopiedralopez9157 Месяц назад

What bag use in this vídeo?Thanks for all.

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

This one: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2aGov0x4Hf0.html

@ProbablyAnAmateur Месяц назад

id love an s5, the size of the zooms put me off though. i hope there'll be an L mount 28-300mm... unless theres already one but still

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

Thanks for your thoughts.

@Aleksilausti Месяц назад

Didn't Panasonic just release the world's smallest 28-200mm lens?

@ProbablyAnAmateur Месяц назад

@@Aleksilausti doesnt reach far enough for me :(

@mostlyfinnishlifeeventsand5112 15 дней назад

@@ProbablyAnAmateur if you "only" want to take videos and you're targetting 4K, you can do some massive scaling of 6K / 6K OG footage.

@mostlyfinnishlifeeventsand5112 15 дней назад

Don't hold your breath for another L-mount superzoom - nothing is on the horizon as Tamron doesn't produce L-mount versions of their superzooms. And even if they did, those superzooms are FAR larger / heavier than the Lumix S 28-200. BTW, ever considered the new 60-600 Sigma DG? It's excellent and not THAT expensive.

@BrightExposure 22 дня назад

Same image quality.

@eemelifranssi2296 Месяц назад

Can you do a 2024 revisit of S1R?

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

That would be nice, but I don't have the camera.

@eemelifranssi2296 Месяц назад

@@mattisulanto pretty sure someone would loan you one in Helsinki 🤔 I'm seriously considering buying one from MPB

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

@@eemelifranssi2296 They are not so easy to come by and not everyone is willing to lend their cameras😀Anyway, I'll keep my eyes open.

@eemelifranssi2296 Месяц назад

@@mattisulanto well if i manage to buy mine before you find one I can order mine from mpb to your home addtess and once you're done testing you can send it to me.

@Krupskee Месяц назад

Maybe it is something worth noticing. Rear dial on S5 is moved a little bit inside the chassis compared to S5II (G9II) as far as I can see on the pictures, I think due to new desing of strap lugs, so S5 should be a little bit more convenient in that matter :)

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

Yeah, the design is slightly different regarding the rear dial but the S5II strap attaching points are way superior to the S5.

@JonackFilm Месяц назад

On reddit many people say the S5iiX has a very sharp image. Sometimes to sharp and terrible moire, some say new is not necessary better :) but the Codecs and AF IS BETTER. Image Quality however is a bit subject of use case.

@mattisulanto Месяц назад

I haven't found the picture too sharp at all but for video I have dialed down the sharpness.

@JonackFilm Месяц назад

@@mattisulanto If you are interested test it with clothing :) on F8 on like a high quality fashion shoot is the S5iix not ideal I would say ^^