The Origins and Rise of the Slavs | Dr. Florin Curta 

It is very odd very few ruminants are found in clay tablet form or ay other form of written military plans of attack from the Greek world back in time!!

Volcanoes changing landscapes epidemics disease are a few of the things that cause migration of animals and livestock also wild migrating food sources which could lead to migrations of peoples!!

Peoples of different origins tend to unite and pull together more during a crisis!

The symbolism of the male lion and the attributes of mal lions oon entering other prides are very prominent images of animals in the past and even heraldry of the middle ages etc etc.

paternal DNA testing is done using the male Y chromosome, which women lack.

Romanians call Germans ,neamtz' too. That derives from Dacian word , neam'/ tribe + ,tz' phonetic so often heard in german language. Therefore neamtz', a nickname. Compare "neam"( tribe, people) with other similar Romanian words about people, family Nea and Nenea ( a polite term for older man) Nana (a polite term for older women) Neaos ( indigenous) Etc.

@D J the SUPERSTRAIGHT I know. But calling Germans , mute or dumb people' because supposedly they didn't understand the slavas is a forced etymology. The Truth is that , niemcy' or others derivates comes from the Dacian nickname that I mentioned above. And that etymology stands on concrete foundation.

I was talking to this Polish guy recently his last name was Niemcicz something like that .. SO I was thinking how his last name meant German... But I didn't realize that it also could had the meaning of DUMMY... Which being Polish would make more sense (sorry stupid 80s USA joke on rebellious freedom-loving warsaw pact Poles lol)

@@nestingherit7012 Termenul "neamț" este un exonim pentru german foarte vechi, chiar stravechi, si este un termen românesc/protovlah preluat si de protoslavi pentru a-i numi pe germani. Termenul inseamna "neam uț", adica din neamul lui Uț - Uț fiind un personaj biblic, fiu al lui Aram (vezi Facerea cap. 10).

Iar pentru a-i numi pe asa-zisii slavi, noi românii, am avut "moscali" sau "muscali", care ii numeste mai corect dar care, mai tarziu, a capatat o nuanta peiorativa din pacate

Немцы- не мы це. These are not us.

I was told it comes from an older word for 'speak' in Polish, and means literally 'no speak' - the Germans are the ones that don't speak. I was expecting Dr. Curta to say that as it fits into what he was saying perfectly, but instead he took it in a rather disconnected direction.

Nevertheless, very informative!

funny how all Slavic countries today call germany/germans a form of Nemac.

From the Nieman River at the border of East Prussia where Germans were encountered .

Bravo!

@@aleksandarmilenkovic5861 Hvala rode!

Бураз, пола је налупетао појма нема о језику, а тумачи историју словенских народа питем словенских језика, притом не помиње или врло мало помиње његову струку археологију, ко зна да ли је икада био на археолошком налазишту у Европи.

You wield Occam's razor well.

Svetovid/Świętowit was four headed god. Those 4 heads were gods of four seasons and N,W, S,E. We should not seak comparison in Greek gods as we are Indo-European people and our believe were similar to Hindu Brahmans. Svetovit is equivalent of four headed god Brahma and he was a one of triple deity - Brahma, Shiva and Vishnu. Slavs also had a triple deity called Triglav - one of the triple deity was Svetovit, we also had a god called Żywie/Ziva and I am not sure about the third one but in Poland define have a river named Wiszna.

In Serbian, for science = nauka, for uneducated =neuk.

In Russian "nauka", and non-educated "neuch". However a dummy is normally "pugalo"

In Czech there is the word "nedouk" which means someone who has started learning but has never been able to learn anything properly.

@@pavelsanda3149 maybe in Czechia problematic are "nedouks" and in Poland "nieuks".

@@pavelsanda3149 Serbian word for that meaning is nedoucen.

Lech, Czec, and Russ have 1000 year old oak trees named after them in a little town close to Poznan, Poland. They are beautiful.

Kievan Rus were Vikings

@@GRasputin91 They were Slavs, Rurik was a viking.

@@horouathos8199 Turns out he wasn't, his direct paternal descendant, Gleb Sviatoslavich was recently genotyped, carried I2a1b-Din, and had only predominately Slavic genetics with "Southern European" input from his Greek mother Kilikiya.

​@@numenoreaneternity6682 I know, but doesn't necessarily mean Rurik wasn't a Viking. It raises a question, though, of whether Rurik was originally a Slav (therefore I2a-Din as a Slavic marker) or if there was a non-paternity event somewhere in-between.

@Rom_troy no slavic people use the form “sKlavi”, besides I think nobody used “slaven” or “sloven” to describe his ethnicity, most early tribal Slavic peoples were named according to the area where they settled - by river name, or ancient city name etc. Only Serbs and Croats have names of completely unknown origins.

Bojovic78 .... The absolute summit of tribal stupidity is to call " he-who- cannot-speak someone speaking a language HE idiot does not understand !.

@@ezzovonachalm7534 Do you speak any Slavic language? Why do you call idiot someone who does and knows the meaning of the word "Nemac", Nemec" "Nijemac" = German. Anyhow, it could denote someone who does not speak the same language and not somebody who cannot speak at all.

@@ajmedosadno8131 apparently You did not read my phrase with the due attention. I call " idiot" a human being who defines another juman being nemetz , slov nemac " he who cannot speak" because the human being does NOT understand his - the jumans- language. Nemetz signifies "Unmensch" .The Slavs call the Germans Unmenschen. I learned russian and polish and am a descendent of the Piast dynasty that is a bit of a Slav myself.

@@bojovic78The first is obviouse.Slavse named themself with tribal names.Italians,romans,misionarys used the term slav and slavs adopted it when chrisitanized. Serbs may have originate from an old rusian word serb wich means brother!Also there is SRB an old slavonic word for river source i think. It is interesting that serbs and croats were corelated in their migrations trough out the whole eastern europe where they setteled more than once and established neighboring states more than one time.They are definetly somehov conected.In earliest times Croats were the biger people of those 2 and serbs could benn a group of variouse slav tribes that foloved the biger croatian group therfore Croats called them brothers-Serbs! Croats or Hrvati could have iranian origin. I dont think slavs named them self after rivers in etnic term but in a regional. Bulgars were named by their ruling clas same as the Russians. Polaks after the word polje wich means field. Interesting that slavs with names actualy had the first states. Croats had a kingdom when only bizantines,franks and a croatian crown existed in whole europe and were recognized by the pope. Bulgarians were an empire but serbs were under bulgaria,slovenes under franks,slovaks i dont know but they never had a state.

By "standardizing" it he did create it. There were related dialects not the pan-slavic language, just like every other modern linguistic group. In the standardization process you are fundamentally destroying the vulgate dialects and imposing a new language. French, Italian, Spanish, English, Sanskrit, Cantonese etc...its true of all dogmatic languages

@@TheEvolver311 Boris I commissioned a new script, the Early Cyrillic alphabet, to be made at the Preslav Literary School in the First Bulgarian Empire, which would replace the Glagolitic script, produced earlier by Saints Cyril and Methodius. Glagolitic and Cyrillic are different - one created in Byzantium the other in Bulgaria.

@@TheEvolver311 This is an ambivalent question. There is the term of Koine Greek too -- was it created? Was "hochdeutsch" created, while the common people talked dozens of dialects. I would not use the word "create" without lots of additional explanations.

@@predamihailescu6820 codification of language isn't a radical concept "selecting, developing, and prescribing a model for standard language usage" it has a massive impact on spoken language not just written.

Cyril and Method are greek invention and with the help from the Austro Hungarian Empire, Berlin and Vatican they manage still today to falcify the history. The original settlers of Grece and Crete were Vinca Civilisation and The Vinca script was just recently used to decifre a Etruscan writing on a stone found in Tuscany . So I'm confused; but than again.............but have few questions; who and when /where invented metalurgy,,slavery, genocide and everything else that comes with it.. What were the "greek" gods called originaly before the Greeks / new commers renamed them ,changed few letters they cant pronounce and we call it ancient greek.Even the stone age arms are better than farming tool made from Copper in Bor /Serbia with added arsenic for making it harder,but its farming tools not arms!!

This prof made a lot of other mistakes in linguistics.

@@alonecoder600 he made a lot of mistakes not only in linguistics, I should say

Yea, the "Dr" is full of shit on that one.

the original meaning of "dumb" in English IS unable to speak. It then became used as "stupid" by cruel and ignorant people.

Hence, the phrase, "Deaf, dumb and blind."

@@gingazhawthorn2984 in english maybe but nemac(prounanced- nematz) , at least in Serbian which is slavic language, it means mute(nem-the one who can't speak). Dumb is glup(prounanced - gloop)

@@milanradovanovic3693 Yeah, but the point is, in English, dumb and mute mean the same thing. Dumb to mean stupid is actually a recent development of the word, which originally meant mute. So really, dumb (with its original English meaning) = nem, and stupid = glup. Dr Curta was using the word Dumb to mean mute, or nem.

@@willmosse3684 Yes, Florin Curta used this word correctlly. But few commentators have linked it with the word dumb implying that Slavs called them dumb, which at least to me doesnt seem so but mute seems more likely.

No one will waste time on this

That's why he is a joke

Western Propaganda

So you're saying you got this? All is clear, you have sources and everything? Very strange.

He's presenting a lot of ideas but not much in terms of evidence and actual studies, some of what he says is mainstream, some is not. What bothers me the most is that he says "linguists say" and then he claims Dacian language is VERY similar to Slavic even though we do not have enough evidence to properly classify and reconstruct the Dacian language in the first place. He pulled this Slavic-Dacian connection out of his ass. Slavic languages do not exhibit typical features of koine or creolisation process, complex declination is the first thing that goes out the window once languages start to merge so this is clearly not how it went down.

Thank you, I’m so tired of the “it’s just a language group” argument, are Indians just a language group? Arabs? It’s just western racism and erasure

Keep in mind, from 6th up to 11th century on whole today’s Romania we had the same culture as in Balkan and Moravia. I.e. Slavic archeological culture. It is even named after the first site example of this culture found in modern day Romania. So it is understandable, why he is proponent of “no culture, no language, no ethnicity” and artificial Slavic language, created by St. Kiril.

this is actually an interesting argument, orbs, pommeranians and aborites were never orthdox, yet they spoke slavic languages

​@@nikolaydsyou make a lot of sense. The guy went to school all his life to study and ralk about slavs just to prove that his romanian origin is Latin, not Slavic. Makes a lot of sense. You're funny

Pročitaj Kurtine knjige. Apsolutno se ne slažem sa njim oko nastanka Slovena, ali taj čovek ako nije potpuno srušio teoriju o migraciji Slovena tokom prvog milenijuma onda ju je barem ozbiljno uzdrmao.

@@cynicalskeptic 👍

@@cynicalskeptic DNK potvrđuje masovne migracije. Nije ovaj tupan ništa uzdrmao svojim hohštaplerskim povijesnim naklapanjima.

@@horouathos8199 da znaš o čemu pričaš pa i da se raspravljam s tobom...

@@cynicalskeptic Ha?

We cannot blame the producer of the video because official history is fake! The real name of the cyrrilic alphabet is the Bulgarian alphabet and the real name of old Church Slavonic is old Bulgarian but the names were erased for propaganda purposes. Bulgarian is the oldest Slavic language and the Slavic language group can't have originated in another place than Thrace because Thracian is old Bulgarian. But they hide all this and feed us big lies. One example is that the Bulgarians are called "Slavs" but not the Romanians, while genetically we are close to Romanians but not close to Poles that are also "Slavs" . You see what fake history leads to. Only nonsense. The Dacian language is Thracian and in the Slavic group too. But there are videos where they call it latin or vanished. Nothing vanishes, they just change the name of the people and places. Academia is hiding many things from us. Use common sense and ancient sources before the 17th -18th century, when history was rewritten.

I agree , he completely disregarded so much . Too much to list .

And what are Bulgarians? You are not a homogeneous people. Half of you are of Slavic origin, and half are Tatars! The part in Bulgaria is celebrating slava, and that is a feature of the Serbs! The Šopi are originally Serbs and that is known.

@@user-ls8us2pg5l firstly, homogeneity is non-existent in any nation. And secondly, genetic diversity existed thousands and thousands years before the first nations. In other words, your views are extremely primitive, and I'm being polite here.

@@user-ls8us2pg5l What about Bulgarians? We are Bulgarians(Thracians). What you say is old propaganda, see an update on Encyclopedia Britanica and bulgars. They were Thracian Scythians. We don't celebrare Slava, what is this?

Procopius, Book V, XXVII, 134: "(...) This exploit, then, was accomplished by the Goths on the third day after they were repulsed by the assault on the wall. But twenty days after the city and harbor of Portus were captured, Martinus and Valerian arrived, bringing with them sixteen hundred horsemen, the most of whom were Huns and Sclaveni and Antae, who are settled above the Ister River not far from its banks. (...)" Procopius about Slavic invaders capturing and enslaving a lot of Romans: Procopius, Book VII, XIII - describing events in the year 545 AD: "(...) For a great throng of the barbarians, the Sclaveni, had, as it happened, recently crossed the Ister, plundering the adjoining country and enslaving a very great number of Romans. (...)" Procopius of Caesarea: "(...) In Illyria and Thracia, from the Ionian Gulf to Byzantine surrounding cities, where Hellas and Chersonese regions are situated, (...) the Sclavenes and the Antes, penetrating practically every year since Justinian administering the Roman Empire, were inflicting irreversible damage to their inhabitants. In each invasion, I estimate 200,000 Romans were either taken as prisoners or killed (...)" Procopius about Roman attempts to stop the Slavic invasion: "(...) the Empire wasn't able to find just one only man just as brave to undertake this task." Pope Gregory I in a letter to the Exarch of Italy from the year 599: "(...) It deeply afflicts and disquiets me the Slavic nation that menace us. It afflicts me from what I already suffer from you, it disquiets me because they have already started to penetrate into the Italic peninsula through Istria. (...)" And according to Priscus, 610 Slavic tribes flooded into Greece. Procopius of Caesarea: "(...) Nay further, they [the Slavs] do not differ at all from one another in appearance. For they are all exceptionally tall and stalwart men, while their bodies and hair are neither very fair nor blond nor indeed do they incline entirely to the dark type (...)". Procopius of Caesarea: "(...) In more or less the same time [549 - 550] a Slavic army (...) gathered itself together and after crossing without encountering any resistance from anyone the river Ister [Danube], and later with similar ease the river Heuros, it divided itself for two parts. (...) Commanders of Roman garrisons in Illyria and Thrace fought against both those parts and even though they had already separated from each other, the Romans suffered - contrary to their expectations - a defeat and some of them fell dead on the spot, while others found salvation in escaping. (...) After all, garrisons had suffered such defeats at the hands of either one or the other of barbarian armies, one of the enemy bands fought against troops of Asbadus. He was a member of Emperor Justinian's personal guard (...) and he led a numerous and elite force of cavalry, which had been garrisoned for a long time inside the Thracian stronghold of Tdzurulon. But also, they were forced to retreat by the Slavs and most of them, shamefully escaping, got slaughtered, while Asbadus himself was captured and temporarily left alive, but soon after that the Slavs skinned him alive and threw him into a burning campfire. After that, the Slavs were plundering all neighboring Thracian and Illyrian lands without any obstacles and both of their two units captured many strongholds. (...) And those who had defeated Asbadus, later plundered, in turn, everything up to the sea coast, and captured in an assault the coastal city of Toperus (...) And they slaughtered 25,000 men, plundered everything, and enslaved all the children and all the women. (...)" John of Ephesus: "(...) In the third year after the death of Emperor Justin, during the reign of victorious Tiberius, the damned nation of the Slavs has risen, and marched through entire Hellas, through lands of Thessaly and Thrace, captured many cities and strongholds, plundered, burned, and robbed, seized the land and settled there with full ease, without fear, like in their own land. (...) they were plundering the country, burning it, and robbing, as far as the Great Walls [of Constantinople], and this is how they captured many thousands of cattle, as well as many other kinds of booty. (...) Until today, that is until year 584, they still continue to live in peace in the lands of the Rhomaioi, without fear and concern, plundering, murdering and burning, getting rich and highjacking gold and silver, capturing horses and plenty of weapons; and they have learned to fight better than the Rhomaioi. (...)" Menander Protector: "(...) About the fourth year of the reign of Caesar Tiberius Constantine, some hundred thousand Slavs broke into Thrace and pillaged that and many other regions. As Greece was being laid waste by the Slavs, with trouble liable to flare up anywhere, and as Tiberius had at his disposal by no means sufficient forces, he sent a delegation to the Khagan of the Avars. (...)" Strategikon of Maurice: "(...) They do not keep prisoners in perpetual slavery-like other peoples, but they demarcate for them a limited period of time, after which they give them a choice: they can return home after purchasing their freedom or stay among them as free people and friends. (...)" “Strategikon of Maurice: "...being freedom-loving, they are in no way inclined to become slaves or to obey, especially in their own land." (Strategikon of Maurice, ed. prep. V. V. Kuchma. SPb., 2004, p. 189)” Jordanes: "(...) These people, as we started to say at the beginning of our account or catalog of nations, though off-shoots from one stock, have now three names, that is, Venedi, Antes, and Sclaveni. (...) they now rage in war far and wide, in punishment for our sins (...) Though their names are now dispersed amid various clans and places, yet they are chiefly called Sclaveni and Antes. (...)" Procopius of Caesarea: "(...) Belisarius was eager to capture alive one of the men of note among the enemy, in order that he might learn what the reason might be why the barbarians were holding out in their desperate situation. And Valerian promised readily to perform such a service for him. For there were some men in his command, he said, from the nation of the Sclaveni, who are accustomed to concealing themselves behind a small rock or any bush which may happen to be near and pounce upon an enemy. In fact, they are constantly practicing this in their native haunts along the river Ister, both on the Romans and on the barbarians as well. (...)" Abraham ben Jacob (a 10th-century Sephardic Jewish traveler from Muslim Spain): "(...) Slavic countries extend from the Mediterranean Sea to the Northern Ocean. (...) Generally speaking, Slavs are warlike and violent, and if not for their internal discord and lack of unity, no other nation would be able to match them in strength. (...)" And about the arrival of the Croats and Serbs (but it was much later - not during the 500’s, but during the 600’s): Constantine Porphyrogennetos, "De Administrando Imperio": "(...) their ancestors were Pagan Croats and Serbs, known also as White [Croats and Serbs]. Great Croatia, called also White [Croatia], until today is still Pagan, just like neighboring [Lusatian / West Slavic] Serbs [Sorbs] (...)" And another excerpt - "De Administrando Imperio": "(...) Therefore everyone, who would like to do research about Dalmatia, can read herein about the way how the Slavic peoples took it. The Croats with their families came to Dalmatia and found the Avars in possession of that land. After fighting against each other for some time, the Croats defeated the Avars, partially murdered them, and partially forced them to submissiveness. Since that moment the country was seized by the Croats. (...)" Daurentius is the first Slavic chieftain to be recorded by name, by the Byzantine historian Menander Protector, who reported that the Avar khagan Bayan I sent an embassy, asking Daurentius and his Slavs to accept Avar suzerainty and pay tribute because the Avars knew that the Slavs had amassed great wealth after repeatedly plundering the Byzantine Balkan provinces. Daurentius reportedly retorted that "Others do not conquer our land, we conquer theirs [...] so it shall always be for us.” Daurentius (to the Avar envoy): "Who is, then, the man who basks in sunlight that threatens to conquer our strength? We are used to ruling over others, not to being ruled over - of that, we are certain for as long as wars are waged and swords are forged". I've extracted the most relevant quotes from the primary sources and DAI.

In terms of material culture, we have substantial information on the following: Slavic material cultures are divided into the following groups, Early Slavic (group a), partially Slavic (group b), and Proto-Slavic (group c) archaeological cultures: a) Penkovka culture, Prague-Korchak culture, Sukow-Dziedzice culture, Feldberg culture, Slavic Tornow culture, Mogilla culture, Volyntsevo culture, Kiev culture, Ipotesti-Candesti culture. b) Chernyakov culture, Long Barrow Culture. c) Zarubintsy culture, Przeworsk culture. Further on, the Franks, Avars, and Magyars have only influenced the military and administrative history of the Pannonian Wends, and they're the ancestors of the Slavs of Balaton, Nitra, Great Moravia, and Slovakia, and they've never formed the bulk of the Early Slavs, but merely a portion of the Wends (the Early West Slavs). To interpret the history of the rest of the Slavs through their particularity is rather tendentious, and even ignorant of the full extent of the history of the Early Medieval Slavs, whether they're West, East, or South Slavic. Matter of fact, the bulk of the Early Slavs was made of the Sclavenes and the Antes, and the overwhelming majority of primary sources from that era were based on peaceful and hostile interaction with them. Further on, the military and administrative history of the Antes and the Sclavenes was strictly a mixture of Slavic traditions and East Roman/Greek influences, which was reflected in the First Bulgarian Empire as well, where Slavic and Bulgar tribal and administrative traditions were integral parts of the state, yet the latter would be entirely ousted by the Slavo-Roman model as early as during the reign of Boris I. In terms of sheer aDNA, Yugoslavs score predominately in Early Slavic ancestry (ranging from 55-70% on average), the reason why they're more southern-shifted is not that they're "Greek farmers", but because they've assimilated populations that harbored a predominately Neolithic autosomal DNA, thus them clustering not as close to modern Western and Eastern Slavs, who've historically mixed with peoples who were of a similar genetic composition as the Eastern and Western Slavs.

Those who attribute the success of the Slavic invasion and colonization of Roman territories to the Avars omit the following: a) Serbs didn't invade in the 6th, but in the mid-7th century, and in toe with the Croats, and were tasked with exterminating all Avars south of the Danube and ruling all the provinces they’d liberate at the request of emperor Heraclius. b) The Slavs who've invaded, conquered, and colonized Southeastern Europe were the Sclavenes and Antes, not the “Avaroslavs”, who were noted to have been Pannonian Wends, and were, aside from the Greeks/Romans themselves, also distinguished from other Slavs on that very basis by Fredegar, and were mentioned only twice in all primary Greek sources, during the Siege of Constantinople in 626, and during one of the many Slavic sieges of Thessaloniki, where Saint Demetrius states they arrived to assist the already present Sclavenes who've besieged the city, lured by promises of the city’s wealth. c) By the time the Avars arrived at the Danubian basin at the invitation of emperor Tiberius, who had invited them for the sole purpose of waging war against the Sclavenes, Antes, and Kutrigurs, the Slavs were already invading and raiding Southeastern Europe for roughly forty years, and as deep as Southern Peloponnesus, Crete and the outer walls of Constantinople. d) All primary sources, like Jordanes, Procopius, Saint Demetrius, John of Ephesus, Theophylact of Simocatta, and Menander Protector state that the Sclavenes and the Antes were under the rule of their rulers like Mezamir, Muzhok, Dervan/Daurentius, and Radogost, and weren't subdued by the Avars, and distinguish them from the aforementioned Avaroslavs (Pannonian Wends). e) Attributing the success of the Slavic invasion and colonization of Southeastern Europe to the Avars is, aside from being contradictory to all primary Roman/Greek sources, since the very purpose of the invitation of the Avars was to wage war against the Slavs and the Kutrigurs, which is exemplified in the joint Avar-Roman invasion of Daurentius' realm, also a textbook example of 19th and 20th-centuries German, Italian, Greek, Hungarian and Austrian anti-Slavism designed to undermine the legitimacy of Slavic history, the geopolitical realities of Slavic territories, and to portray Slavs as a subsidiary mass of naturally subordinate peoples. Sources: Jordanes, Procopius, Saint Demetrius, John of Ephesus, Theophylact of Simocatta, and Menander Protector, De Administrando Imperio, Sima Cirkovic, Tibor Zivkovic, Dimitry Obolensky, and Frederick Hamilton Jackson.

The war with Persia in 600-614 strained the Roman resources and thus denuded the coast of soldiers, therefore the Avars and Slavs inroads were ravaged as they pleased under Heraclius (610-640), who had called in the latter to drive out the Avars; Narona, Salona, Epidaurus, Burnum, and Rhizinium were destroyed. In 641 Pope John IV., a Dalmatian by birth, sent Abbot John to Istria and Dalmatia to ransom prisoners and collect relics. The Croats and Serbs exterminated the Avars in the middle of the seventh century and delivered the province, the Croats occupying the west to the river Cetina, the Serbs the east from the Cetina to Albania. A century and a half later, Wonomyrus Sclavus/Vojnomir, the duke of all Slavs of Lower Pannonia and a vassal of the Franks, would devastate Avar dominions between the Danube and Tisza in 795 and is responsible for defeating the Avars a year later, and delivering nearly all of Pannonia to the Franks.” Sources: The Royal Frankish Annals, De Administrando Imperio, an Outline of the Early History and Migration of the Slavs by Karl Heinrich Menges, the Land Between: Slovenia by Oto Luthar, and the Shores of the Adriatic by Frederick Hamilton Jackson.

@@numenoreaneternity6682 You sure it wasn't the Justinian plague and the never-ending war between Byzantine and Germanic tribes in Italy? Those 2 concurrent events created massive needs and employment opportunities for any mercenaries or even people just to work the fields.

...а у основи је-Србски језик.

@@user-xb2el6ko8zDai briši.

​@@user-xb2el6ko8zu osnovi ne seri smece cetnicko

​@@user-xb2el6ko8zprijatelju mi to pismo ne mozemo citati, ja bi ti preporucia da vidis ko ima starije zapise i pisce. I kojim jezikom ti pisci govore da pisu. Faust Vrancic naprimjer ili Vuk Karadzic 400 godina nakon njega. Razmisli i kani se sranja drevni srbi bili polabijasnki slaveni dok smo mi hrvati puno blizi bili izvornoj zemlji. Srbi su dapace bili puno ratoborniji narod i spadali su u kos s bugarima sto se tice mentaliteta. Dok smo mi puno vise slicni cesima i poljacima. Bar sto se tice rane povjesti. Ali sada svi mi pricamo istim jezikom ali niposto se ne moze zvat srbski jer je 400 godina mladi od dokumentirana 3 hrvatska dialekta. Zato nazovimo ga illirksi ili naski i baci mitomaniju u kos. Tesla je srbin

@@mikedawson6417 same with the dalmatians croatians that spoke some kind of italioslavic language, they assimilated when venice fell because they only lived in the citys just like in istra. Italian control of croatian lands was purely economic and we where colonys to be exploited, half of venice is made from trees cut down near my apartment. As a dalmatian myself I reject latin herritage but accept latin influence. Im sure there are some islands in croatia that proudly speak the dialect that you discribed in your coment. Prestige followed latin and slavic was the word of wild europe, from slovenia to novgorod. So in that time learning latin/venecian/greek was like learning german/ english/spanish today. Just made a lot of seance for trade. Venice is evil, slave trading filth. No one with croatian blood likes venice. Italy sure, venice no🤣

listen your mother rather than this fake teacher all he has is the hate to your mothers heritage

Well if you paid attention to the entire segment you would learn that according to Curta there is no such thing as a Slav. We are just a non-related population of illiterate and unremarkable people who got a language and a religion from the Greeks and spent much of our time being slaves or fighting. There is no origin story, no mythology, no common heritage. The first Slav kingdom was founded by a Frank. You are not a Slav. Slavs do not exist.

@@tommyslavic898 You forgot to tell him, as the distinguished professor said, that we were subjugated to germans also, and borowed grammar from them, also Avars slept with our women, daughters, mothers and sisters during the winter, and in spring time they lead us to pillage Romanoi, and we never rode horses, but raised them for our masters. Strangely, slavs, who were slaves since they appeared in the world (south of marshes of pripjatje), are biggest ethnolinguistic group of Europe, 400.000.000-450.000.000 people non existing, non cultivated, nation of slaves mixed, but all spoke lingua franca that was written by a greek priest.

@@BubaIGunga This prof is a Romanian. Romanians don't speak or understand any Slavic language. Does he? Majority of Western and Eastern Slavs have haplogroup R1A, as opposite to R1B among Western Europeans. R1A people lived in Poland, Belarus and Ukraine for thousands of years. Their DNA been has preserved in ancient burial places.

Majority of Western and Eastern Slavs have haplogroup R1A, as opposite to R1B among Western Europeans. R1A people lived in Poland, Belarus and Ukraine for thousands of years. Their DNA been has preserved in ancient burial places.

Interesting info, but I am not sure pertinent to this particular debate. There have been many more migrations since that time. The theories being discussed here are about theoretical migrations taking place about 1,500 years ago. So people will have moved around A LOT in the intervening 8,000 years since the initial migrations you are discussing.

Not possible because there are archeologic discoveries dated 12 000 years old in Ukraine.

@@rrn7769 There may have been settlements near the Black Sea, so the inhabitants ate fish. Or those settlements are older than the beginning of the ice age

Slavica, Slavko, Slavenka, itd

No one is certain about the etymology of the Serbian boy's name Nemanya. I think it is related to this word Nemci that the Slavs call the Germans.

Bosniaks are new-age imaginary nationality. In Bosnia and Herzegovina, you have Croats Catholics and Serbs Orthodox, and you have both ethnic groups as Muslims.

Who are the "Bosniaks"?

@@alalbatross6549 Slavic Muslim people from Bosnia. BosniaNs define all people living in Bosnia regardless of nation

Latin is as close to saskrit as russian or latvian

@@dmitrykozhin5316 Every Slavic language is more closer to Sanskrit than Latine. Latine language has arose from proto-Celtic and proto-Slavic languages.

Proto-slavic is probably from 200ad, while proto-italic is from 700bc

@@dmitrykozhin5316 As I know, proto Slavic was before 7th century BC. Also when you look at old Roman mythology - Aeneus from Troy, also was Antenor in Troy, king of Venetos, who has led his tribe form Troy to the north of Adriatic. Venetos were predecesor of Slavic.

Perhaps some of us are unaware that Caucasians have only been on the planet for six thousand years according to science and our records and have no history or heritage of their own. Everything they have was stolen from a particular group of Black people over centuries. Example. Caucasians want us to believe that two Africans came into Russia and that the Russians allowed these foreigners to codify their language or that an African is the father of Russian letters. These mental gymnastics and outright lies by Caucasians are meant to hide the fact that they have no history and are literally incapable of inventing civilization and culture are so ghoulish that they are pretending to be Black people. I'm an historian who has had the privilege to study history from primary sources available to serious academics and I can assure you that socalled white people are literally savages pretending to be human.

Great summary. Thanks

This is only a tip of the iceberg of his lingustic mistakes, he basically claims Slavic is a very recent creole even though the structure of proto-Slavic looks nothing like a creole nor does it contain a large body of vocabulary or grammar that can be identified with another language group. He somehow connects it to Dacian when Dacian cannot even be fully reconstructed or classified. He just doesn't seem to know what he's talking about.

Serbs

Stalin: But I am the biggest brother.

That is dalimil chronicle, its story about origin of Czech nation it say origin is from balkans... also prof of this are name SrB because srbe we can find in balkan and in germany (where was limes serbicus)

The oldest recorded character of this is Czech, in Kosmo Chronicle from 12th century, in 13th century in polish chronicle there starting show up lech and Rus, all autors of this chronicles take this stories from normal people, like old man stories, sooo it can be older than chronicle time's

Kiev is Ukrainian and Russian was a word that came from Peter the great.

@@georgekashuba1656 total bs))

You are right. The real slavs are the bulgarians.

What about St Ciril inventing new language? 😭🙄

@@goxputica New language??? Ciril is Bulgarian.

@@user-sm5rt5ic6e Bulgarians are Turkic people, todays Bulgarians are descendants of seven Slavic tribes, and earlier Balkan inhabitants that were enslaved by the Turkic Bulgars.

@@denis3208 Stop whit this lie already. Bulgarians are 100% european people . We are not turks. They have not exist back wlen there were bulgarians.

Србска!

Yeah, they never mention it. They are always occupied with other slavic groups. And yeah I can confirm, as a Slovene i also can read that manuscript.

I wonder if it's true that they were all different tribes who spoke the same language as there were Sorbs, Serbs(maybe same as Sorbs?), Horvats, Veneti, Spori (could be Sorbs), Antes.

Lech-would that be like a forest? So Poland is from field- polje?

I have never thought about it. There is a theory that it's a transformed version of an older name "Lestek" which came from "lście" meaning "cunning" or "slyness", but there are also some other opinions. I know that Poland is sometimes called "Lechia" or "Lechistan". I'm not sure but I think that this name is still used in some Eastern European or Middle East countries. Nevertheless, almost every child in Poland was thought about the legend of Lech, Czech and Rus @@frostflower5555

@@andrzejmalinowski4234 you mean taught

@@frostflower5555 yup, I meant "taught", my bad.

​@@frostflower5555Поље је Србска реч.Ливада, спољашњи простор у природи без растиња.

You've been colonised by nationalism. Don't worry the Chinese claim to have invented nationalism too.

The problem is that proper, Slavic, and even Western Slavicists and Byzantologists (like Michel Kazanski and Obolensky) are diametrically opposed to his theses, but Westerners aren't interested in the factual realities of Slavic history, but to rationalize their premises and deeply rooted anti-Slavism.

@@numenoreaneternity6682 We have similar crap here in the Balkans, those old Yugo dinosaurs. They often peddle similar stuff, except for them it is about Yugoslavism or whatever.

The slavs are not european They are huns

@@meikala2114 not those hans Huns invention

In Serbia we celebrate SLAVA which means SAINT DAY & we also have a lot of those days throughout the year. Each family in Serbia has one SLAVA or a Saint Day that they choose to celebrate something like a Patron who looks after & protects that family. Only Serb families have a lot of Patron Saint Days that they’re celebrating from the beginning of a year in January to the end of the year in December. No other Slavic nation has as many Saint Days or Slava as Serbs do.

Serbian and Croatian too. Miroslav ( different spelling the same meaning) Krunoslav, Vatroslav, Branislav etc

In Serbia: Miroslav, Stanislav, Dragoslav, Radoslav, Vladislav and so on.... many thing in this story are without any logic. Is Florin Curta Romanian name?

@@slavkas.6552 That’s interesting and in all Polish word “sławić” also means worship and praise the God. I believe that is another meaning of this term being God worshippers.

​@@skv7869Yes, he's romanian.

Don't forget that this guy is a Romanian. He is being intellectually dishonest, especially regarding language and religion. Slavic languages have a very complex and conservative grammar, much of the connections with other satem-group languages like Sanskrit and Iranian languages, religion definitely wasn't animistic, or copied from Greeks or Romans. The field of archeology of religion have reconstructed the PIE religion, roughly speaking, but it's based on the same principles as archeology of linguistics, on which the PIE language was reconstructed. Slavs and Baltics are people living near the PIE Urheimat, and Baltic and Slavic religions, especially Baltic are the closest to the reconstructed PIE religion, with the Diewas pater, or Heavenly Father being the foundational God, making it almost monotheistic, Him being a parallel of Brahman, or Iupiter, which is actually a contracted form of Dieus Pater. There are parallels with minor deities as well of course, which is well documented. We are simply PIE that more or less did not migrate). Not saying that we don't have loanwords from Germanic or Turkic languages, of course we do, this was an area of dynamic history, but to claim that we were unwashed peasants, who had to copy their religion, is simply intellectually dishonest. Slavic may as well have emerged as a lingua franca made from similar dialects spoken in the area, that would explain its internal uniformity at a relatively late age in history, but it's, at the same time extremely conservative, and complex, linguistically speaking, with Baltic languages being the most conservative, of course. To cut the story short, there is no need for an origin story when you're living in your Urheimat, and Huns may as well have left a "hole in the history", having created a large state entity that possibly used a unified lingua franca that may have emerged spontaneously as a koine language of the local dialects spoken in its (Hunnic) domain, created as late as 5th century as its lingua franca. Another comment pointed to the fact that Croats have rich archeology because they migrated to a land where stone was in free supply (I'm from Croatia and I know how "stony" it is here), while Slavs, and possibly Baltics as well, created their sacral sculptures or inscriptions in wood, which doesn't preserve nearly as well. Also, the structure of Glagolitic, being much less abstract than both Latin or Greek alphabet (we have our own word azbuka based on the first two letters, with the second one meaning just that, a letter), could point to the possibility that it wasn't invented by the saint Cyril (him inventing a Cyrillic script makes much more sense, it's basically Greek/Latin alphabet adapted for Slavic languages, WHICH also raises a logical question, why invent two scripts instead of one?) to spread Christianity, but was much older, and was brought to Balkans with Croats and other Slavs during migrations, possibly after the Justinian plague which made Balkans pretty vacant, while still being a pretty decent place to live :).

@@Miculjka exactly. Also Romanian people were just Romanized Slavs, they have the same genetics as Serbs. Also Romanian language is still full of Serbian words. ( they are also neigbours and share Timocka krajina.

​@@Miculjka Cyrillic is simplified Glagolytic symbols. Same phonemes and logic, different shapes. Glagolytic was infact called Cyrillic in early preserved sources, only later was the distinction made that the first cyrillic is called glagolytic. Previously It is described how Byzantine emperor (Manuel) searched and searched for a Slavic script but could not fins us having any. And then later the initiative to design a Slavic scripture was made, to much oposition in proud Greek people and it is known that it spread from south to north. Cyrill possibly designed it while still in Thessaloniki. You seem to lack these information, but are quick to judge a professor as "dishonest". Impolite.

@@miloshp7399 I'm well aware of that, it's basic common knowledge. I'm just amusing my imagination with this idea because Glagolitic script is much less abstracted than its supposed predecessor, Greek script. Honestly, Cyrillic script looks like an offspring of Greek and Glagolitic (if scripts could have sex). Anyway, Slavs originated in the area of PIE Urheimat, along with Balts. Our languages could be considered the last remnant of the PIE stem that didn't branch off of it. Also, that was an area of constant trade, steppes were close, what are the chances we didn't have any script. What did happen in the territories where Slavic originated is Hunic invasion that could've destroyed a civilization,similarly to what the Mongols did to Kievan Rus.The mixed Iranian and Baltoslavic population gave rise to the new emergent Lingua Franca based on those local dialects, but completely mixed up because of migrations. It eventually became official language of invaders as well, so both Huns (probably) and Avars (almost certainly) used it as a language of their states, or, better said, tribal confederations. In any case, that would explain how Slavic languages were so uniform as late as 6th century, while still retaining really conservative properties inherited from PIE (mostly grammar, but also prosody, vocabulary etc.). So the most recent language group with really archaic features. Regarding my impoliteness, professional help is being sought. I'm probably projecting and having delusional grandiose fantasies because of the unwashed peasant complex.

@@miloshp7399 "Cyrillic is simplified Glagolytic symbols" This is where you showed that you know nothing.

Exactly this. The guy is a fool.

My thought was this. Fur traders. The slavs were on the outskirts of the Byzantine Empire. Now the way early Russians traded was for international trade cattle. But for smaller denominations, they traded in furs. One of these furs being the Kuna. A weasel-like creature. Kuna is the former currency of Croatia (before the Euro). So there is a connection between Danubian/Sava Slavs and the Russians. What is the connection FUR. Byzantine would pay cash for furs. SO these people living on the Danube had a monetary incentive to spread out into the forests of Poland and Russia and set up towns, and villages. Hunt furs. Trade. Live life.

I am 97% Slavic with 3% Wendish which is still Slavic. The maps that I received from my DNA do not equate to what this man has said. And around 900 AD we started being made slaves. The core root of the word Slave is Slav. I have found his information very lacking in origins. www.cambridge.org/core/journals/international-journal-of-middle-east-studies/article/what-does-the-slave-trade-in-the-saqaliba-tell-us-about-early-islamic-slavery/EDDD35D8FD593AB8D576D11550CF62C6

@@slavicgypsy5535 Modern Western interpretations of medieval sources would indicate the Slavic area as being the main reservoir of slaves in the whole period of the Early Middle Ages, beginning probably in the 6th century, and with a peak around the 10th. This preference for slaves of Slavic origin - so strong as to make Slavs the slaves by antonomasia - has been easily explained: in that period Slavic people were the only ones who were still pagan, and this detail is most important as it explains why, by choosing them, early medieval slave traders - mostly Venetian, Genoese and Jewish - did not violate the new principles of the “Societas Christiana”, introduced by Pope Gregory the Great at the end of the 6th century, according to which baptized people must be excluded from slavery. What should be noted is that aside from this being a mere theory, it is also historically and etymologically inaccurate, and unconvincing. After all, the Medieval Latin words for “Slav” and “Slave” are not etymologically related. The Medieval Latin word for “slave”, and with it, its root as well, predates the first sightings and contact of mainland European civilization with the Slavs. The evolution of the name of Slavs "Sloveni/ Slaveni" comes from PIE *klew (to hear) evolving into proto-Slavic *slovo/ *slava (word/ fame), finally evolving into Sloveni/ Slaveni (those glorious/ those who understand each other). Meanwhile, the English word for "slave" comes from the Latin word "clavis/ clavus" (a key/ nail), which bore the Latin word "inclavare" (to lock in), ultimately giving rise to the word "sclavus" (slave - "a locked one"), which most likely entered the English language, along with a major portion of Romance words, with the Norman invasion. In 1881, a proper etymology was expressed, according to which the Greek word Σκλάβινοι does not stem from the self-name of the Slavs, but from the Greek verb σκυλεύο - "to extract spoils of war", and resonates in the manner in which Slavs and other ethnicities were enslaved - as prisoners of war. The aforementioned etymologies are free of politicization, are accurate, and are firmly rooted in history and linguistics. Based on this, the self-name of the Slavs and their Modern Helleno-Latin name coincided phonetically purely accidentally (F. Kluge, Etymologisches Wörterbuch der deutschen Sprache 1881/1989/2002), and the thesis where the modern word for “Slave” is not rooted in the self-name of the Slavs, and is refuted.” (Gerhard Kobler - Deutsches Etymologisches Wörterbuch 1995, Korth Georg - Zur Etymologie des Wortes 'Slavus' (Sklave) 1970, and Daniel Scholten - Deutsch für Dichter und Denker: Unsere Muttersprache in neuem Licht, 2020). The aforementioned theory and etymology are furthered by Korth Georg, Friedrich Kluge, Gerhard Kobler, and Daniel Scholten (and Grimm’s German Dictionary). Further on, the cognate with Sloveni/Slaveni is the word Sclavinii/ Slabini, a Latin that denotes Slavic ethnic groups. From a purely historical perspective, Greece and Gaul were Rome’s main reservoir of slaves for centuries, while the Irish were the main reservoir of slaves for their Normano-English oppressors for more than half a millennium, and before them, to Norsemen as well. Dublin was the largest slave market in Western Europe. Its main sources of supply were the Irish hinterland, Wales and Scotland, while in the Far and the Middle East, the Turkmen tribes would supply the largest portion of Eurasia with innumerable slaves for nearly a millennium. Aside from that, just during the earliest stage of the Slavic invasion of Roman territory south of the Danube (6th century), a fifth of a million Roman citizens (Procopius) were enslaved by the Sclavenes (early South Slavs) in just one Roman province, and just during a single raid, the number of their slaves kept growing as more and more provinces and their capitals fell to the aforementioned Slavs. In reality, the majority of slaves in the 6th and 7th centuries were the Christian Romans, not their Slavic captors. Granted the Slavs didn't enslave their enemies permanently, but they've enslaved them nonetheless, and in numbers that are substantially greater than the number of Slavs who were enslaved by non-Slavs during the entirety of the middle ages, and it renders the aforementioned non-Slavs as being more fitting to have their ethnonyms made “synonymous” with slavery The Western terminology for "slave", to a certain extent, is similar in form to the self-designation of the Slavs ("Sloven", "Slavjan" etc.) Their existence served as the basis for numerous anti-Slavic statements, theories, and consecutive waves of propaganda, which have sometimes acquired the scope of genuine mythologies. Moreover, these ideas were even given an academic platform. As it happened more than once, when “not entirely” adequate premises gained an academic platform and were entrenched there since. The premise of "Slavs" is the root of words for "slaves" found a permanent foothold in Western Academia, giving rise to a series of pseudoscientific, inform, but questionable, in essence, representations and statements. The essence of these premises is that these words are related to the ethnonym of the Slavs, allegedly, "due to the fact that in the Early Middle Ages, the Slavs became objects of the slave trade, which led to the use of their ethnonym as a designation for slaves." Sometimes, it was even argued that Western Europeans, whose languages contain these words, directly, massively, and regularly turned the Slavs into slaves, and in general, other far-reaching conclusions were made, such as that the "Slavs are slaves" and the Western Europeans are "their masters." Moreover, in the 18-19th century in Western European journalism, the idea was persistently exaggerated that even the word "Slav" itself comes from the Latin or Greek word for "slave". This was the “think tank” of an 18th-century French historian and publicist. Polemics regarding this myth and premise are found even in Dostoevsky’s "Diary of a Writer". As for the idea of the origin of the word "Slav" coming from the word for slaves - at the present time, it is not considered scientific and has long been recognized as erroneous, or even deliberately Slavophobic. The birthplace of this terminology is the ERE. In the Early Middle Ages, in the so-called Medieval Greek, the word "σκλάβος" (read as "sklavos" - "slave") appeared. Further - from the ERE and Medieval Greek, this word found its way to Medieval Latin (and from there to Medieval French) - the official, as well as international legal, political, commercial, and scientific language of Western Europe. Moreover, in different languages, it appears in different timelines. In accordance with Webster's Dictionary, the word appears in English only in the 14th century, while Webster gives an etymological origin of the basis of the premise of this stream of Slavic slaves dating back to the 10th century, specifically during the reign of Henry the Fowler and Otto I, therefore moot and chronologically off by several centuries. Thus, the direct appearance of these words in Western European languages, for reasons allegedly of the abundant trade in Slavic slaves, is excluded. Since the word has a clearly traceable and understandable history. And it did not arise in the West, but in ERE. The word for “slave” in Medieval Greek derives from the Greek verb skyleúo - meaning “to get spoils of war”, the first-person singular of which looks like skyláo. This etymology is established thanks to the following sources: F. Kluge, Etymologisches Wörterbuch der Deutschen Sprache. 1881/1989/2002, siehe Sklave: “... zu gr. skyleuein, skylan, V. zu gr. Skylon ", Gerhard Köbler, Deutsches Etymologisches Wörterbuch, 1995, Sektion "Slaven" and Daniel Scholten, Deutsch für Dichter und Denker: Unsere Muttersprache in neuem Licht, Sklave und Slawe “. Thus, it is proven that the Greek word "sklav", "slave" - comes from the abovementioned Med. Greek word, the original meaning of which was "seized in war".This etymology, and Georg Korth’s "Zur Etymologie des Wortes 'Slavus' (Sklave)" refutes the premise that the Med. Greek and modern Western word for “slave” derived from the self-name of the Slavs. This etymology is furthered by Korth Georg, Friedrich Kluge, Gerhard Kobler, and Daniel Scholten (and Grimm’s German Dictionary). Furthermore, it turns out that the "Slavs" and all these numerous Western European "sklavas" are only homonyms. There are innumerable examples of such consonant coincidences (both within the same languages, and between words from different languages). This is a fairly common occurrence, especially among Indo-European languages. Thus, in the ERE, a new word was found and associated with the verb that means "to seize trophies of war", which was from then on used to denote slaves. At the same time, the previous word for slave, which previously meant slaves, was repurposed to denote indentured serfs attached to the land they’ve toiled.

@@numenoreaneternity6682 thank you for your input. I read the diary of an Arab slave holder of why they chose Slavics. It was noted in his diary that once castrated they were obedient workers. And they were 10 times more valuable castrated and made eunuchs because of their work ethic. They could have cared less if they were pagan according to that man's diary. So I disagree with you there. They even were enslaved so they could fight for the Ottoman Empire against the Byzantine from what I've seen. Again ..... I'm beginning to realise that all history is up to interpretation. And I am going by the definition of slave that is out there. "Slave - Origin Middle English: shortening of Old French esclave, equivalent of medieval Latin sclava (feminine) ‘Slavonic (captive)’: the Slavonic peoples had been reduced to a servile state by conquest in the 9th century." "Sla·von·ic /sləˈvänik/ adjective relating to or denoting the Slavic language family. noun the Slavic language family." That's in the dictionary.

Probably there is more complicated as Slavic languages have declination in Polish for example “nauka’ is a noun and a verb is “uczyć”

@@malaxes Thanks for your comment. Sure, the root is obviously "oko" (eye in eng.). Nauka means "to the eye" in some sense (na+oka). In south slavic language we have a verb "uciti" ("uchiti"). It was probably in some point of time "očiti" (ochiti, which is "okjiti", whereby "k"+"j" form a "č" through palatalisation), which was modified trough pronounciation into "uchiti" (učiti). Polish phonetic form or transliteration made it probably into a verb "uczyć". I'm not a linguist, but the languages and script change over time. Thanks for your input and don't mind my attempt of explanation. 😊 Cheers.

@erazmo Све што си написао и дан данас постоји у СРБСКОМ језику!!!"УК" је двоглас, основа, као и РК, РГ.."РГ" Веда-најстарији запис филозофски космологијски на свету! Све је поменуо, СРБЕ не😅О СРБИМА се ради у овом видеу!!

Are Hungarian, Czech, Slovak, and Romanian related to Serb, Slovenia, and Croatia's languages?

@@gurnblanston5000 not sure about Hungarian but the rest yes they are all considered Slavs.

@@1914inheaven Romanian as well?! Great to learn, is like a good cup of coffee.

@@1914inheaven Totally off base, but is ancient Latin or Italic (not sure of the difference) in anyway similar to ancient greed with similar word or sentence structure or sounds used, ie hard C or K or 'sh" sounds? Language is its own deep science, like math, music, biology, zoology, to me.

Yes. What Mr Curta is saying is that Slavic language became lingua Franca, common languages among lots of tribes all mixed up under Huns north of Danube and all of them became slavic speaking thus Slavs, so in a way that Slavic identity was forged but Slavs existed prior too. Slavs suddenly appear after fall of Hunnic empire and suddenly live in much of eastern Europe while not being know to even exist prior so this is one of manny explanations to this phenomena of sudden expansion

@@kristijangrgic9841 but what about generic data and culture? If slavs prior to adoption of proto slavic language were different quasi ethnicities then why do they share common genes and culture?

@@DoubleDwarf NIce question. You should ask western sholars, who claimed late arrival of Slavs in Europe. Without sources and logical thinking. :-)

@@DoubleDwarf well all europeans share them :9 a beter question is why those identity is much wider than avaric teritories? explain the baltic people who are almost slavs and for sure slav related :)

@@ramsaysnow9196 Paul Diacon has written in Langobardum history also about provincia Sclaborum in 550 AD in Austria and Slovenia (nowadays).

Very sloppy work.

It was a pleasure to give our history lovers what they wanted! Thanks for watching!

@@studyofantiquityandthemidd4449 Sir::: How would like to do some interviews on Apollo-Moon-Hoaxes, may be starting with an interview with the producer of MoonHoax--DOT--com who found absolutely NO evidence that Apollos even existed!!!!!!!

@@kareemsalessi lol, what

@@twonumber22 Just watch that free-documentary, funded by the State-of-Michigan, which set out to visit NASA, and its people involved in the so called "Apollo-Program", but everywhere he went, he was told that NO originals, NOR copies, of anything Apollos existed, and that:: ("We-Lost-Them") !!!! Worse yet, the Moron-Majority of the world population believe that they actually happened !!!!!!!!

@@kareemsalessi Well then the State of Michigan sure knows how to waste taxpayer money on something absolutely and profoundly incorrect. Not only are they not fake, you couldn't even possibly fake them. When thousands of people in person and millions on television watch the astronauts all load up into the top of the Saturn 5 rockets and blast off into space, where do they go?

Your comment means the world chops! Thanks for enjoying what we do!

It's happening to all free men soon enough they made slavery comfortable.

Same in Polish: “nieuk” (nie = ne)

“Neuch” is derogatory version of uneducated in Russian.

То је све Србски језик.

Хрватска постоји 30ак година.Осим кратко НДХ када су у 2св рату истребили аутентичан народ те земље-Србе.

You do know that Glagolic is pre cyrilic, but in very close relation. I'm curious knowing that Croats hate Cyrilic how is it accepted.

@@markomaksimovic1846I don't hate cyrillic, I can read and write in it and historically it was also used. The problem is that modern people think that these were writing systems of people 1000 years ago, in reality most people couldn't read or write so those who could either used it for the purpose of correspondence, liturgy or chronology.

There is xroatian version of cyrilic as well

@@docikr5961 Оригинал је аутентични оригинал и потиче из Винчанског периода и прва је филозофска мисао која је спојила човека, Створитеља, законе кретања, транслацију и ротацију, природне појаве кишу, ветар и Сунце и круг као најсавршенији геометријски облик али и Закон Универзума-непрекидно кружно кретање-ништа у систему Планете земље није линеарно- и тако сунастала слова АзБуке=Винчанско писмо.Слова латинице су такође део Винчанског писма. Свако слово има своје смислено значење.

It's just his malice for eastern slavs that is seeping in. That's why he barely has an explanation for western slavs.

Listen, his only goal is to prove Romanian continuity in the region. He will lie, omit or falsify when analyzing other subjects, only to serve his secret propaganda.

​@@dokangelThis is the dumbest comment I have read so far. The fact that you may be anti-Romanian is not an issue in itself, but your comment is not informative in anyway. It is meant to discredit and spread hateful information. Shame on you!

Sources?

To su sve falsifikati, naknadno urezivani natpisi u vrijeme hrvatske megalomanske povjesne skole. U srednjem vijeku nemate ni jednog pisca, ni jedan roman, ni jedan zakonik.

ne izmišljaj Hrvate, brate Srbine iz Ilirije

We were taught that avars were most probably slavic people too...

@@krunomrki might be... when I was to school no DNA analisys was available :)

Slaves were abundant in ancient Rome and most came from the Balkans. The word Ciao is a remnant of that period.

Especially the Serbs who were taken over by the powerful Bulgarian Khanate early. The ones who escaped to the powerful Croatian Kingdom nearby were given freedom and rights.

@@mattbarbarich3295 Of course.....History revisited, the Serbs are used to it. Everyone was always more powerful than the Serbs and they all had kingdoms that the great powers didn't mention. Charlemagne only knew the Serbs, the Ottomans also strangely only mention the Serbs and the Austro-Hungarians. Obviously it is well known that the uprisings of 1805 and 1815 were always these other so powerful "kingdoms" which ejected the Ottomans from the Balkans.....and also 1914-18 they also gave "freedom" to the people Serbian...... Yes Yes of course. Freedom and recognition takes place under the protection of the powerful who give “democratic rights” as under the EU today. It's so true I forgot. Croatian free speech, for example, is so esteemed in the European Parliament.... 😉

I agree with you, but keep in mind that 'slave' is an english word. I concluded that it was coined by vikings which regularly invaded russia and probably made them into slaves, and of course brought many words with them into Britain when they settled there. So, Slav DOES mean slovo, or pismen, but it can also in english and scandinavian mean slave, refferring to russians, the only slavs they knew.

@@deansusec8745 You know, this story of vikings infiltrating deep into hostile territory with two or three longships, each of which has only 50 men at most, leaves me perplexed. For what ? Because out of slave Slavs they manage to make warrior invaders from the East.... You should know. For the moment I note that the Slavs are much more numerous than all the others combined and that despite all the attempts the Western peoples have never succeeded in winning by force. So they wrote great stories about the Vikings, but they're still just stories. I ultimately think that the Vikings were more traders than we think. The Sloveni did not leave much writing because the transmission was mainly oral. This is a problem because ultimately our history and our myths are the ones who wrote them, and given how the current situation is, it may very well have been the same. And since we read their writings about us, we are fooled by falsehoods or intended distortions. I don't trust them.

In Poland to, brother :)

I'd say the professor in "slavology" might do well to LEARN SOMETHING ABOUT SLAVS! Just a thought. :)

@@georgytodorov7947 He did learn something about Slavs.. from Mein Kempf.. written by one of most popula historians and intellectuals from the "West". :)

@@piotrwiara1564 I know brother.. i must say that i love one of Slavic Origins story, from chronicle of dalimil .. dont know why i love that. Do you know. :P This is of course one of 100 Origin stories of Slavs. Literaly writen by a Slav.

@@zoranlakic5954 got that spot on brother! But then again... why is he calling us Bulgarians Slavs? Everyone knows thah back then we pretendet to be ... something (noone knows exactly what) to get in that particular historian and inrellectual's good graces... Fuckin' polititians man!!! Cheers! Rakia's on me.

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old bulgarian !!!??? toa e turkic jazik na khan Asparuh i negovata turko-bugarska orda !

True. In Croatian the word for science is znanost - directly connected to word znanje for knowledge and the suffix -ost signifies an activity. So it directly translates as collecting/gathering knowledge. I do understand 'nauka' too of course since the Serbs use that word, although in Croatian; nauka, nauk and naučavanje are related to the more specific activity of teaching.

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Not much improvement, this guy is lacking so much knowledge its criminal, he needs to berry his head in real research in slavic origin history.

more then an hour of bullshits 😂

Each haplogroup is divided into subclades according to mutations. R1a has 20 subclades.. Slovenians have a West Slavic subclade like Czechs, you don't have Slovak genes, which is quite interesting

Slovenians only got their name in 18th century. You were just considered as Slavs by Austrians. But originally you are one of Croat tribes.

I thought Serbian was the closest language to Slovenian. But then again Slovakian and Serbian are very close too.

@@snokehusk223 Or you can put in this way: One of croat tribes (those who speak kajkavština) are Serbizied (or croatizied if you prefer) Slovenians

@@user-mc8es9fp2z that wouldn't make sense because that part was Croatia proper since begining while Slovenians didn't have their own state ever

Judging by your name I think you are male. Then you'd better do your own test. Because your sister does not have a Y chromosome. The Y chromosome is always inherited directly from father to son and changes only slightly every few generations.

Crap!

Mr Walter_Ulasinksi : Goths, Visigoth ,Vandals are just 3 out of about 20 GERMANIC {roman or latin name for the "theutonic people" as they called themselves} people, other being Saxons, Frisian, English, Franks, Schwevi, Alans, Allemands, Suabi, Jutes, und so weiter ..... Goths and Visigoths went west and south and conquered Spain; Suabi conquered "Lusitania" or Portugal today. I doubt very much "Sarmatian" ancestry, steppe and horsemen, do belong to germanic tribes inhabiting marshes and forest lands.

@@augustoenriquebarretoreyes6735 While I will not dispute your comment, What I was pointing out, occurred circa 3-5000 BCE the lTe neolithic these tribes also included the Botai, the first horse culture. Ancient migration patterns were diverse much differently from today’s patterns. It is inly through genetics that we will be able to get an approximation of archaic and ancient patterns of the spread of humanity.

Samaritan means SAR- MADAI = Ruler of Media.

Yeah. And if they were using the same term to describe themselves at very widely distributed points around the edge of the territory occupied by “Slavs”, it seems to me that that would even indicate that all speakers must have had some concept of themselves under this name. Because otherwise, why would the people on the far Western edge use the same word to describe themselves as the people of the Far Eastern edge?

We kind of have to try to feel as those times people maybe....? Why would name Muhammad mean Or have a root that means glory or to be praised? Back then Why most of the names of the slavs Ended with the name slav? Glory or be praised......and at the similar times....religions were a fashion.....praised be aka praising Worshipping a word..... ??? Becoming a knowers of the word? The onnes that speak?

Ту се ради о СРБСКОМ језику и Србском освајању Индије или 'земље бхарата'= што је србски назив за брата/браћа! Веде наСрбском значе 'Проповедање' -причање народних знања! Тип брбља сат времена али СРБЕ НЕЋЕ ДА ПОМЕНЕ!!! Наука је СРБСКА реч, јер у Румуни живе Срби које је Ватикан у 19в прогласио за некакве Румуне!! А то су Срби!! Веде су Србска Космологија.Срби имају загонетке, питалице у народном наслеђу као у Ведама и принцип тројичности! Санскрт=Србски! Ми све речи Санскрта разумемо и њихов смисао, који је филозофски.

You mean that a ("Historian's job is Creating-Illusions"), right???

Remember::: ("History is written by victors")

@@kareemsalessi No the winning religious authorities and Royals blue bloodlines create the illusions. Only shill historians side with the power structure.

@@marcusholbert2525 So, from where do you believe, the "Real-Historians" dig up their "True-Sources-of-History", if such thing even exists ???

@@kareemsalessi Historians dont “dig up” anything. Archaeologists do. You’re right, there are a lot of corrupt historians, especially in Egypt but there is always someone telling the truth. Even if they are considered fringe.

Why? What really satisfies you so much about this? It can't be science, this jerk is not accepted at all in European scienticic world. Look in the mirror in your cabin on the Titanic

It only means you know nothing about Slavs. good luck

Ič vala

Absolutely! In ukrainian the same - neuch

Neuch in ukrainian

polish too

A lot of what this professor says is suspect. It's also quite interesting how Slavic peoples are supposed to allow themselves to be defined by non-Slavic 'scholars' since it's presumed that the Slavic peoples aren't intelligent enough to know where they came from.

Dimitar Dobrinov I don't know if there is a Slavic etymology for ,vesti'( news) but in romanian means a Vei( you'll)+sti ( know) from latin ,scio' It is news in general. b Stiri( news on tv) This time ,sti' is up front. c Vestiri( annocements) ,sti' is in the middle.

but you are slav not macedonian,modern slavomacedonians have nothing in common with ancient macedonians,you are bulgarian.nothing annexed,in 1913 you did not exist you were bulgarian

@@jorham1 you must be a jerk . How do you know what he is?

@@RU-Aussie you must be a moron...i know the slavs of northern macedonia,they are bulgarians,they speak a slavic dialect of bulgarian language .

Cyril and his brother had opened one the first university in Europe located in Ohrid Macedonia

Not so far in history we were one big civilization/ Check Vechyaslav Kulanov and his Abc of truth he has the proofs/ Rus is not Russia/ we had knowdleges of astrophizics/ an the churches are not made for worship but for obsevation of our solar sistem and ecliptics. Also we knew reincarnation as a fizical fact thos knowledges were almost erased and burried in lies by the new world order.

Wow , your are not anymore serb allover ? You are slavic now ? I thought, in your empty head , slavs are some kind of serbs . LOL

@@seaman5705 You are easily confused kind of guy, aren't you? :)

Slavic words in English? Name a few.

Yup. DNA science is going to put a lot of gibbering 'scholars' out of biz.

If you don't understand how that works you might think that

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Very interesting info. Not totally sure the word “funny” sits terribly comfortably with the rest of the sentence being about genocide - that jolted me a bit 😂. But very interesting

I always found it funny how there was an avar ruling north of Balkans-not much was known.

Lol no

@@PanSzawu Before Christianity, it was.

maybe the greeck pold people describe the swedish people more similar to slavic than german or celtic

Oh my God ! What about Sklavini which name started in Roman Time Province Macedonia ! It is Indo-European word "Kleo" , today still "clean " in English . Or Kleopatra the "clean one " . That Kleo becomes Sklevos on Latin and Sklavini ! Still today in Latin is Slavios ( famous ) .

That is the theory of Central European Slav enlightened nations . Because they took oficial slova "letters" later on !

There is part of Marvo Orbini book that was forbiden. To prevent questions of censurship, cripled book was left in the print and is there in catholic libraries in west. But we haw that was in redacted part. Simply said Slavs are in Europe much longer than western propaganda says. Its known tha ancient greeks where enslaving slavic people on the shores of Black sea much before BC...

No wee are the preslavic people brate vinca Pa sve ostalo 😢

Thanks for your support and for watching Carole!

12.century? That's almost 500 years after Croats are first mentioned in the area..

@@BalkanCrusader Yea, and before that they were always referred to as Serbs.

@@aleksandarmilenkovic5861 Serbia didn't even existed at the time..early Serbian state was called Raska.. Mani se Dereticevih bajki:)

Did you not pay attention? Slav is a misnommer. There is no such thing as a Slav according to Curta's research.

@@BalkanCrusader a kako se zvala Raška pre 11veka? I kako pre toga? 🙂 Ako ne znaš da ti šapnem... 😉

Unfortunately DNA studies doesn't proof that ))

@@volek6264 Haplogroup I (I1 Nordic and I2 Dinaric) is a genetics that was dominant throughout Europe during the Neolithic. Haplogroup I has been in Europe for at least 30,000 years. What most historians agree is that after the last ice age, life could have developed from south to north, which is confirmed by the Vinca culture, which later emerged in today's Ukraine through the Cucuteni-Tripilian culture, which is even more developed. It was here that more extensive encounters of I2 people with R1a people and the spread of culture, language, metallurgy to the east took place. This is where the ethnogenesis of Proto-Slavs originates.Those Proto-Slavs and their culture and trade have reached China and India. And the fact that mummies in China are an R1a haplogroup speaks in favor of that, and that there are more than 100 million people in India today who have an I2 haplogroup. We could state the facts that are supplemented with new ones every day. History is multidisciplinary.. Culture, language, records, genetics, folklore ... For example, Sanskrit is the most similar to today's Serbian language of all modern languages.👋

@@unknownarchon8860 seriously, dude? 30000 years ago? protoslavs? )))

@@unknownarchon8860 What about Slovenian language with its dual grammatical number the same as in the sanskrit?

@@volek6264 No, you didn't understand or you can't understand, you better read what is written again. I said that the Haplogroup I was in Europe for at least 30,000 years and that it was the dominant Haplogroup during the Neolithic in Europe as well. It split into two subclades I1 and I2 about 17,000 years ago. Proto-Slavs can be talked about only from the later phase of Vinca culture, Vucedol culture and the first phase of Cucuteni-Trypillian culture, which is approx. 4500BC. ))

one can argue that this myths survived through the native line of minority people like the tribals etc... but this is doubtful.. there are additionally as many similar myths among slavic population in Bulgaria and Macedonia related to roman, thrachian, ancient macedonian rullers or events that predates the "slavic invasion" .. Immagine how much europain american folclore is influenced by native american (indian) original myths ? i think none that predates the invasion... in conclussion it is very possible that the thraco-illyrians were the proto-slavic people

Slavs came from the pripet marshes.

I think we can assume he knows about sanskrit.

Baltic languages such as Latvian and Lithuanian have far more archaic features than Slavic does

@@luminography He is not a linguist and he gets the linguistic stuff incorrectly (definition of koine, lingua franca or even calling sociolinguistics and contact linguistics new branches - they both exists for several decades and he really simplifies what they are doing and what insight they can give). I would rather listen to him speaking about the material evidence than a science he is not an expert in.

@@ronjayrose9706 baltic peopler more likely Slavic people

say whaaat? how interesting, got any other examples?

Thanks for watching! Also, he will be coming back on soon!

what do u mean by turkic influence? i dont get u!

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You’re most welcome! I did as well. I could listen to Dr. Curta all day. Excellent teacher.

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Because he is inventing stuff out of his head...hahahahaha

​@@salonez91Exactly, he teaches nothing but lies.

He is inventing theories, but also speaking many truths that last few years genetics had proven. For example Slavs are Illyrians, something albanians and western "scientists" just simply refuse to addmit, even tho science had proven it 100%.@@Nepetita69696

That is science. More they have founded, more questions have come. It should be that way. On the other hand we will still all live in caves.