maybe the original sunset would’ve somehow went to the pony world and stayed there, like the pony sunset went to the human world and stayed there. If that makes any sense
Yeah in the comics, it showed that they had a Sunset Shimmer that was in a band w some other ponies. They came to ponyvil to perform at a festival. So Im assuming that Sunset is EG sunset, and played with her band in Equestria
Because after she was not princess Celestia student she was clearly not seen at the show but if it makes you feel better what what if it takes someone place
7th Element of Harmony =The empatie Why isn t there a second Sunset Shimmer? The writers said that there is no human counterpart to Sunset because they wanted her to be her own thing. They also said that she's the human world's 7th Element of Harmony. There was a story idea that was presented that explored the idea of a human counterpart of Sunset, but it was dropped.31. 3. 2021
I feel like that doesn’t make sense multiverse wise since every pony has a counterpart so why is only sunset her own being. Even twilight has a counterpart when I feel like it would make sense if she was instead completely differently like how the magic of friendship is like a type of reborn (the first mane6 being star swirls friends, 2nd generation twilights and so on)
They brought Starswirl back. He's not dead. Sunset shows up unexpectedly at a big party in Ponyvile (in the comics) where she performs with a band we'd never been introduced to. It's entirely possible that the human Sunset has been in Equiestria the whole time.
Damn that's such a cool idea that human Sunset is in the pony world! It totally makes sense with how pony Sunset transported to the human world! I wonder how many other characters have done similar things like that before because in the human world, the portal isn't exactly hidden like it is in equestria.
What kind of element is Sunset Shimmer? When asked on Twitter in mid-December 2016 if Sunset is one of the Elements of Harmony, Ishi Rudell replied, "In our world she is the 7th element! ☀️" later specifying said element to be "empathy".
Maybe she's the element of disagreement who are. She represents a differen type of friendship. You may not make this but that is a couple type friendship
Maybe she's the element of disagreement who are. She represents a differen type of friendship. You may not make this but that is a couple type friendship
@@lydiathibodeaux6566 #This is Canon by Developers What kind of element is ||Sunset Shimmer||? When asked on Twitter in mid-December 2016 if ||Sunset|| is one of the Elements of Harmony, Ishi Rudell replied, "In our world she is the 7th element! ☀️" later specifying said element to be "empathy". ____________ 7th Element of Harmony =The empatie Why isn't there a second ||Sunset Shimmer||? The writers said that there is no human counterpart to ||Sunset|| because they wanted her to be her own thing. They also said that she's the human world's 7th Element of Harmony. There was a story idea that was presented that explored the idea of a human counterpart of ||Sunset||, but it was dropped.31. 3. 2021 I have spoken. May the force be with you and may you lead the force. ✋️
i just remembered that in one of the episodes, the song "unleash the magic" was played. the thing is that the teacher said "To find a student that's like you, I've had one or maybe two But the good ones disappear before I blink". maybe one of these were sunset shimmer? however i think she would focud on studying not because she wanted to like twillight, but because of the grades.
That’s a really good point! She was a bully in one place and in the other surrounding bullies,crystal prep is like the place to find other alternatives (like Candace or shiny armour)
This is interesting but someone else commented that human Sunset could be in the pony world. I agree that Sunset could've been one of the teachers protege as she was Celestia's student in the pony world so maybe Sunset vanished into Equestria? I think that would be so cool.
I know this isn't the original account and stuff, but I didn't realise this when I watched it before, you know how there's that theory that sunset shimmer is sunburst's sister? if they lived in the pony version of sires hollow, then they would probably stay there, because sunburst and sunset shimmer went to canterlot to learn magic. in the human world, they wouldn't have had cutie marks or magic, so they probably wouldn't have moved. this also kind of works because we haven't seen an equestria girls version of sunburst either, or starlight glimmer, and we know from the show that they were separated because of sunburst's cutie mark.
@@deletedmlpvideos7th Element of Harmony =The empatie Why isn t there a second Sunset Shimmer? The writers said that there is no human counterpart to Sunset because they wanted her to be her own thing. They also said that she's the human world's 7th Element of Harmony. There was a story idea that was presented that explored the idea of a human counterpart of Sunset, but it was dropped.31. 3. 2021
@@deletedmlpvideosWhat kind of element is Sunset Shimmer? When asked on Twitter in mid-December 2016 if Sunset is one of the Elements of Harmony, Ishi Rudell replied, "In our world she is the 7th element! ☀️" later specifying said element to be "empathy".
So there HAS to be an original human Sunset, think, no one other than Twilight ever went to the human world (excluding Sunset and Starswirl) and every pony has a human counterpart there regardless. It also seems some dates are intertwined, as Applejack lost her parents in both worlds, Twilight is a nerd in both worlds, Rainbow is an athletic challenger in both worlds, etc. I thought maybe Sunset got involved with… shady business- but that was proven wrong, since I KNOW any legal figure would have taken notice of the new Sunset. Then I thought- what if her pride and ambition drove her to travel the world, before Sunset ever arrived? We see Canterlot, but what if human Sunset is out of that city, region, etc. and off doing other things? She could be a sort of traveler. Maybe she’s also a nerd, older than Twilight since we see her get banished before Twilight was a student, so maybe she’s an adult who’s successful, or just an average scientist striving for more? Idk, I took to reasonable thoughts instead of those crazy, out there ones
This made me made my own story. I also read about the elevator ritual. I made a story where a character meets the girl, and she turns out to be her alternate self. It would be sooo amazing to see counterparts talks with eachother
My headcanon is that there Sunset was originally from the human world. Her parents car broke down outside CHS as they passed and as they waited for a tow truck. Three year old sunset tried climbing the horse statue but fell through the unknown portal unseen just seconds before it closed. All the human search parties found no sign of her. Cut to equestria. Celestia finds sunset in the mirror room ( a room magically sealed to all) as a foal and ends up raising her, but never told her the truth of her origin ( maybe put a memory block similar to what professor x did with Jean great)
I have a feeling that sunset couldn’t take control and demon sunset controlled her and then with her rage she wanted to be the only sunset so she killed the human sunset
@@jewelisIcon To replace herself in the human world. I mean Sunset was pretty fucked up when she was still a bully at the start of the story, I don't know if she would be desperate enough to do something like harm her human self to take her place.
Given the situation with human Sunset, I have a theory of my own: what if instead of being a bully, human Sunset is surrounded by bullies. Just like Sci-Twi was surrounded by rude, social recluses. Sci-Twi was also driven to her evil form through pressure, so since pony twilight never had an evil form, maybe this one doesn’t either. She probably still has issues making friends, and is all around cynical of the idea since she’s surrounded by bullies, and maybe she’s just neglected all around. Pony Sunset’s presence in her world doesn’t make it better, and while she doesn’t outright antagonize anything since she just wants to live her own life, she does resent our Sunset.
Actully i searched and it says actully sunsets a pony she went to another world bc i the episode of forgotten friendship she says im ur people smth like this who betrayed u , and if u look at the episode of when twilight is crowned and when they r singing the song abt friendship in the background theres sunset and yh when i searched it aloe said they made sunset her own thing so no human sunset shimmer
Tbh I think the eq sunset ran away from Celestia like the pony version and we don’t see her cause she just ran away and had no reason to return since magic doesn’t really exist in equestria girls
Remember the parts that sunset shimmer said that ask the last girl that competed it was her for the full formal, but twilight didn’t that girl just might be the other world her and she was so depressed that she killed herself
I think i read somewhere that they were going to do something like when Pony Sunset went to the human world somehow Human Sunset got sent somewhere to the Pony world.
My theory is that Sunset is the connection between the human world and the pony world. I guess it would make sense considering the magic from the pony world is still in the human world. Sunset would be the “portal” for the magic to travel through because of the power she has. If this theory was true, then it’d be safe to say Sunset doesn’t know about it considering if she did she would use it to her advantage against Twilight when she became a demon. Since she thought the magic came from the crown itself she didn’t think about it when she put it on her head but, would it have reacted the same if anyone other than the main six? Since the magic from the crown was pink and not teal, It had to have been the magic she acquired back in Equestria when she was a unicorn. Considering, Twilight isn’t there to be the Harmony between the five, Sunset is and If she’s the outlet of the magic in Equestria, It explains why the girls can still “pony up”.
Sunset shimmer comes from the end of the Era of Celestia searching all of equestria for students. Sunset had no friends in canterlot and likely had not grown up there. She's not one of the ponyvill unicorns meaning she could have been from anywhere... Vanhoover to baltimare. Now sunset was also a student... she did her studies and it wasn't really inpatients that caused her problems but her nasrsisitic tendencies and quest for power. On earth, i could picture her being on either coast, California, New York, or baltamore. and it wouldn't be music for her studies... oh no. It would be Politics. The expectation of manipulating and gaining power, with hopes of one day... climbing the ranks to president. at the current age in the series, she's likely School president. She's not "joiner", but likely has "groups"s he runs for different political goals or causes, that she can weaponize. her short term goal is to get into a Col or Uni once she graduates and then going into Political sciences with a minor in liberal arts. she is NOT the type of person you want to get access to magic or magic items.
I was very mad and disappointed at the creators because they never showed us the sunset shimmer from Equestria (not the one from pony world), but your theory just calms me down but still, I'm mad because the show has ended.
I think that the pony sunset is the daughter of celestia who replaced the human sunset, who was a bully (as shown in the prom photos and yearbook) why would someone leave being a bully for so many years? The pony sunset had something different in her heart, cause she was a student of celestia.Proof also in forgotten friendship, at the end, sunset forgot her time in the human world and was upset and confused looking for celestia. I think celestia sent sunset there as an experiment, because she trusted her and believed that sunset was strong enough to handle it. That explains why celestia and Luna have a mirror and know about the world, sunset shared knowledge with them. How can a prized student go bad and then turn good, so good that she might be a little more powerful than twilight (pony) in the human world shown in rainbow rocks that the band needed her and she discovered the problem with the sirens and found solution. She was living as the human sunset, who was a bully so no one suspects that she was different. Sunset took the crown on purpose to sent celestia a signal to sent twilight. celestia probably wanted to teach twilight important lessons when she was ready. That also explained why sunset has a shared book with celestia, she told information about the world and the school. Sunset remains to keep order which is why she never goes back living in equestria. The human sunset was replaced because she was probably opened the portal and this process took her life and pony sunset stays to keep the order and anymore dangers from happening. Explains why swi twi was interested in the portal and sunset was most worried about it. She was scared if something happens to pony twi, which was effected, after the credits, pony twi comes and tells that she was trapped in time or something.
Yes that could be because sunset is older than twi and like someone mentioned that in the song the principal said students like you I’ve had one or maybe 2 but the good ones disappear. This could relate to celestia saying that sunset was her best student then she left.
I have a theory/headcanon that the human world actually didn’t exist before Sunset get into it. I think the mirror wasn’t linked to another world at first but when Sunset used it the first time, it magically create a alternate world that was a "copy" of Equestria but with slight differences (they’re human instead of ponies there is no magic, well not really, there is some magic from Equestria that enter it from time to time). Since this world is a copy of Equestria at the time Sunset enter its, it explains why Twilight wasn’t friend with the other main 6 here, since it happens before she met them for example. And Sunset doesn’t have an human counter part because she wasn’t copied in the process, since she was not at Equestria when it happened. This theory also answer to the question Applejack asked in Rainbow Rocks which never get answered in canon: Why the sirens appear now if they where banned by Starswirl 1000 years ago? The answer is that Starwirl didn’t send them to "another world" but instead they were like in the void , and they teleported in the human world only when Sunset "created" it using the mirror, then they were powerless until the events of the first movie which lead to some Equestria magic appears (speaking of that, the sirens doesn’t have human counterpart either, for the same reason as Sunset). Same with magic artefacts we see in the Equestria Girls series, that all were long lost artefacts from Equestria and suddenly they appear here.
Me personally I dont think there is a human sunset because during the mirror magic episode there was no starlight glimmer or they both are… dead… but ima just asume they just don’t exist in that world. 😁
I think maybe when sunset shimmer from Equestria was still a crown from Twilight and bring it to the world this crown wasn't broken balance from the start, but when sunset shimmer from equestria was wear a Twilight crown and make herself into the demon she was broke this balance and make this world with the magic and maybe when she stand a the demon she was accidentally make some portal to some other world and then human sunset shimmer was found the portal to some another world and use it to go to this another world and now she live in the other world like the Equestria sunset in the world.
Meine Theorie ist das Sunset der SchMy theory is that Sunset is the shadow/evil vision of Princess Celestia. That would explain her talent for magic since in the beginning it took many powerful unicorns to make the sun rise and set and Celestia could do it alone.Her behavior is also clear, she came from Starlight's dreams to the time of young Celestia (magic had already been improved by Starlight) to practically create herself.Nevertheless, Celestia recognized Sunset's evil intentions and had her arrested.Since Celestia traveled through the mirror several times in the comics despite being forbidden, Sunset's desire to do so also developed.Because she is part of Celestia, she sensed Celestia's visit to the other world.That's why she simply went through the mirror to also travel and cause harm in the world she would end up in. When Sunset lost her memory, she strangely only remembered Celestia, even though many would have searched for her parents in such a situation.When she was "transformed back" by the Elements of Harmony, she became a reincarnation of Celestia, which is why she got along so well with the human Twilight.That there are only six actual elements of harmony she has to contribute her own creation.
My theory about her is, sunset shimmer would be earliest EG version of herself but without friendship being introduced to her. Considering her older design and personality would resembles a punk or a bully. Which means, in human world of sunset, she's already far gone probably being a dropout and the violent version of sunset shimmer.
Here’s my theory: Human Sunset Shimmer used to go to Canterlot High, but left to transfer to an elite school far away, just like pony Sunset left Celestia’s school to seek power. At the same time that human Sunset left, pony Sunset came to the human world and basically everyone assumed she was the same person. This would make human Sunset a good foil to Sci-Twi, who transferred from an elite school to Canterlot High to seek friendship.
1:40 a post i've read is more or less close to this: when pony sunset went to the earth she inarvertidely erased human sunsent from existence, and all the magical happenings in equestria girls are efforts of human sunset to reasemble back to existence....
I have my own theory where pony sunset and human sunset swap places in each movie /show episode, and I have no proof, but I just like to think that it's something they would do
Maybe she is actually in Crystal Prepp But Twilight didn't mention it and she was not included in the Friendship Games. She is maybe studying music and preparing to be a superstar
There could be a possibility that human sunset saw sunset and questioned her . Sunset might have threatened the human sunset and she may have gone in hiring
Now i wanna ask one thing.... do you guys remember the first episode how sunset was act... and the next episode? It was look like sunset was ... *swaped*.... dont you guys think sunset was wierd. First and next. And when selestia said she was realy wierd when hge leaved.... dont you guys think.... you know
OMG HEARING YOUR VOICE GAVE ME SO MUCH NOSTALGIA I USED TO WATCH YOU ITS BEEN YEARS SUBBING NOW OMMGGGGGGGGGGGG WOOOWWWWWWW YOU STILL DO MLLPPPPPP MAH GAAWWWDDDDDDDDD ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤😅❤❤❤❤❤❤
OoF sorry to inform you, but this isn’t Sawtooth. This is an archive channel that reuploads this stuff. Sawtooth’s channel was wiped due to being outed as a groomer. /Info /Gen
Think that she that she would be a Pop a popular musician, but here’s about the rain boots and stays away, so they won’t so so so so is so they won’t take away her popularity
Well while I admit that maybe the theory of human sunset Shimmer secretly trading lives to live in different worlds would be interesting, to me that wouldn't really make sense as seeing we don't even hear about a human sunset Shimmer being in equestria. Maybe this other human sunset Shimmer lives a different life entirely to the one pony sunset does. Maybe she could be successful but not to the point where she is well known. We can't generalize that human sunset would have turned out like pony sunset because even pony twilight and human twilight were pretty different from each other. Human twi was more like Fluttershy since she was Timid, shy and u confident from herself even though she was very smart. So maybe instead of being too proud and lacking humility, maybe this other sunset was humble and patient, not arrogant like how pony Shimmer first was. Maybe she just likes to keep a low profile and it's why we haven't heard much about her. But as someone else states in the comments, since the comic showed another sunset Shimmer playing in a band, maybe that's where she is and it's why she's not mentioned in the show? I don't know, but this is what I think.
If sunset was a human world she probably would be an artist because she is an artist 2 episodes and one movie they showed that sunset is a good artist well painter
i think pony sunset met human sunset and they actually swapped and pony sunset took human sunset somewhere in the pony world to stay under the radar from celestia meaning all they would have done was swap places :>
3:18 Id say maybe military, or one of those who aim to be like student president or anything to put her in some form of position in being in charge. She could also be in a completely different country than the others, since this world Does have HUGE differences in placing people in different places than in Equestria. For example, there are Movies on flat screens and cars instead of carriages, busses instead of wagons. They have More fashion considering everyone wears clothes as for the Pony world you Rarely see anypony wearing clothes. There are schools and bills/taxes unlike in Equestria. The outlands have more different life styles like an old steam punk bandit desert lands, they have so many different equations that make their lives different. It is both similar but the main 6 all go to school in the human world but in the pony world they do their own thing, Apple jack works on the farm, rarity designs, flutter shy takes care of the animals and helps any of their issues. So many factors make things different in each world. But I do like your theory on her being destined to bring the worlds together but at the same time it doesn’t logically make sense. With having 1 other universe similar to another, who’s to say there aren’t more. That there isn’t an infinite amount of worlds just as different and similar as the two we know. So with that there should be more worlds she connects with if that is her destiny. But also why was she made to bring them together? It doesn’t make sense. We would also have to know the Mirrors origins to help that theory of her being the only one without a double.
@@VenomousRandy he was falsely accused of grooming a minor. I think his story is still up (and the girl’s side of the story). The real tragedy is that everyone bullied him into thinking he did something wrong when he didn’t do anything wrong if you look at everything that happened factually. He took down his channel because of it all.
@@VenomousRandyYo uh- ignore what the other guy said please. Sawtooth was outed for grooming a minor a few years back. While Sawtooth didn’t have malicious intention from what we’ve seen, they still did it and caused damage to the minor. The minor came out with their story of this all with evidence and all. Sawtooth then *admitted* it was all true, and told people to not defend them, and then wiped their channel. Moral of the story is that Sawtooth EXPLICITLY stated “do not defend me or my actions.” Toastify made a good video going over this situation. And to the other guy- Please stop defending them. Don’t call it false accusations. A minor was hurt. A victim was made. Sawtooth told you people to not defend them. So please don’t. You make it harder for victims to come out about their trauma because of this.
I once read this other theory that the reason why Sunset doesn’t have a human counterpart was because Sunset serves as a gateway between the 2 words. Since she most likely brought magic through with her from Equestria when she first arrived in the equestria girls universe, but Twilight was the one to properly activate it. So yea I think that’s why Sunset has no human counterpart and never did (just my opinion tho)
I like to think that sunsets real human version was a failed musician like he said in the video but because, she failed to become a real one, fell in a depression and either killed herself or completely stopped going to school.
I think i recall that the creators canceled the show where Sunset shimmer met her human counter part because it was said not everyone has a pony version and a human version. theres a possibility Human Sunset Shimmer never existed or is in another specie that is native to the human world
Yo leí por ahí que la teoría 1 era la canon porque al parecer se confirmó que ella era una anomalía y que siempre estuvo destinada a vivir en el mundo humano
Okay so I haven't thought about this but it could be possible that the sunset we know is the human sunset and wondered into the pony world on accident. Well that's just my theory.
What is sunset shimmer From the human world and equestria world switch places Every couple ep she is the only one who Change is clothes except for some of the movies And she has different personalities, maybe she doesn't have a difficult personalities. Maybe They are different people Sometimes she really appreciates her friends but sometimes she doesn't Think about it
My theory was the people who got banished didn't have counter parts but the theories in the comments about sunset being both worlds makes sense and about sunset being starlight glimmers human counter part also makes sense because there is only one starlight glimmer ❤