The Pathogen's Effect on Planet 4 and David's Intentions With Earth 

You have a great voice for narrations. Your work is exceptional.

The realization on Daniels’ face that ***Spoiler Alert*** it was actually David who was tucking her in the cryo pod and that ending - epic 👏

I've loved the original trilogy since I was a kid but the prequels just have so much mystery to them that just leave you wanting more and the comic's are great

While watching this I couldn’t help thinking how very human David truly is. Everything he does is perpetuating the cycle he himself was brought into.

I was satisfied with the prequels, and would enjoy seeing David's journey through.

Just watched Prometheus and Alien Covenant recently and personally I want the third film to keep with David. He is a fantastic character, probably my favourite just behind Ripley

No matter how terrifying or devastating the xenomorphs might be, their true danger to humanity is the fascination they elicit. David's abilities make his admiration for the xenomorphs' strength and ruthlessness exponentially more catastrophic. He is the best villain in this saga so far.

The David/Walter relationship is much like the Data/Lore relationship.

David has got to feature in the third prequel, he just has to. The A.I aspect is fascinating and creepy too, that they could go against their makers like that.

These are David’s words from the book novelization of Alien Covenant. “Creature all finger like with a coiled muscular tail, yes I did try to create something like this or better, but I don’t have thousands of years of practice at biological and genetic engineering. I have only my pitiable programming on which to draw. That, and ten years of earnest effort on my own behalf. I have learned only a little, yet I soldier on hoping always to achieve something like this, I had nothing to do with it, a supreme example of the engineers skill. And also I suppose, of their hubris” This suggests that David is not the creator of the xenomorph, as he wanted to learn for himself how potent the Pathogen is and if it has any limitations, his obsession is to create what the engineers did in the past, but to see if he can do it any better, like I say which he admits he can't. Plus in Prometheus we see loads of dead bodies of the engineers, all stacked up against the wall in the engineers ship, the bodies have puncture wounds in their chests, and we saw a hologram video of the engineers running, possibly from an escaped Deacon or xenomorph, because you can hear it's high pitched scream just as the engineers appear running. This happened in the past before David even started experimenting. Also on LV-223 the Prometheus ship when mapping out the engineers ship, detects a lifeform near the cargo hold, this appears only for a short time then quickly disappears, this could be a deacon or the large worm creature that we later see, or Prometheus could be picking up the life sign's of the one remaining engineer on that ship ?? Also there are many other engineer ship's according to David, that may or may not have more engineer's onboard ?? Prometheus 2089 then jumps to 2093 when they land on LV-223 Alien Covenant: year is roughly 2103/4 the crew are scheduled to land on Origae-6 in 2110 but received an unknown SOS or warning message from a nearby planet in 2103/4 present day, which they are a few weeks away judging from the Covenant colony ship's speed, so they decide to temporarily divert closer to this uncharted planet, so the Lander has less distance to travel. Alien: year is 2122 the crew aboard the Nostromo received a unknown message from the planet/moon LV-426 All the crew were killed a part from Ripley, once in the life boat shuttle she was hoping to be picked up in about 3 to 6 weeks, and she can't wait to see her daughter again back on Earth for her 11th birthday. Alien Isolation: this is set 15 years after Alien, year is 2137 I've read the novelisation it tells the story of Ripley's daughter called Amanda, who at roughly 26 years old gets information regarding the possibility of finding her mother. Alien Out Of The Shadows: the year is 2159 (37 years after Alien) Ash has entered his artificial intelligence into Ripley's escaped life boat shuttle, which he uses to try and find the Alien xenomorph species again. Ash traces a xenomorph species to a mining planet LV-178 and quickly jettisons the fuel, as Ash is still trying to carry out special order 937 Ripley is picked up by one of the mining ships orbiting the mining planet LV-178, she goes through hell yet again with the Aliens but is saved by one of the mining engineers, but Ripley gets her memory wiped by Ash of all events on LV-178 She escapes with help again in her original life boat shuttle untill 2179 Alien River Of Pain: set in 2165 to 2179 This tells the story of doomed Hadley's Hope including Newt the little girl, the only survivor who Ripley finds later in the film Aliens. Aliens: the year is 2179 (57 years after Alien) again set on LV426 where Ripley goes back again with a group of armed marines and finds Newt. Van Leuwen said to Ripley at the end of her court proceedings, that there's been 30+ families for over 20 years on LV-426, and they've never reported any hostile organism. Alien 3: the year is 2179 set on Fiorina 161 a prison complex. I like the idea like a lot of other people have mentioned, of this Alien 3 film being a dream or nightmare of Ripley's, and she soon wakes up to discover Hick's and Newt are still alive. Or sadly they're dead which is a shame considering the hell, Ripley went through and Hick's to save Newt, just seems a waste. I definitely prefer the special edition director's cut to Alien 3, which is much closer to the novelisation. David has been on LV-223 in 2093 and seen with his own eyes what this stuff the Pathogen is capable of, plus is the only member of the Prometheus & Covenant crew who understands the engineers ship and some of their language. He then spent 10 years on a uncharted planet possibly Paradise from 2094 to 2103/4, experimenting with the Pathogen. David is now onboard the Covenant colonist ship posing as Walter with access to thousands of colonists, on there remaining 7 year journey to Origae-6 which they are due to arrive by 2110 Origae-6 is ment to be very similar to Earth with water and breathable air, it won't be LV-426 as this hasn't any breathable atmosphere yet, well not untill at least the late 2150s when they build the large atmosphere processing structure to make the air breathable on LV-426, ready for the new arrivals at Hadley's Hope 2160 onwards.

Once again, the novelization holds great details that just don't make it to the screen, to the franchise's detriment. I disagree on the focus being AI and David - that time has passed. A successful next installment should look at humanity and the threat of the uncaring universe, a la The Expanse. Go read Free League's Alien RPG and rewatch the Alien videos that came out the other year - they get it. It's also why we loved the first 2 films - normal people (space truckers, marines) finding out that human hubris and capitalism are nothing to the horror of the cosmos. No more of these esoteric stories (Alien 3, 4, 6) that get lost in their own navel.

Love this channel. Hope they finish the prequel series someday...

I personally would love too see a David focused film. I find his thoughts and ideas interesting. There's been many human scientists with the some thought but from a different source, usually military gain. David being A.I. makes his views different is some sense. His personality is entertaining to watch as it expands.

Though I appreciate the Ridley Scott prequel films as representatives of epic science fiction, something we simply do not see anymore, I still can not understand why the Blomkamp's Alien 5 was/is not made. Ugh!

Your videos are real pleasure. I’m so happy to see such an amazing channel on my favorite franchise! Thank you, bro. It means a lot to me

Thanks too, and because of you, I have become fascinated with the entire Alien stories. Sure I have seen all the movies, it's just now, I have a deeper understanding of it all. Amazing work, and dudes right, you have a perfect narrator's voice. Keep up the good work!

@AlienTheory Another Triumph! Excellent video. Thanks for uploading during these trying times.

I would really like to see the rest of David's story and rest of Scott's vision to complete the tie in to Alien.

I am really interested in space and I would love if you could make a video on the history of alien ships in the movies

We definitely need a Finale for the David Trilogy ✌️

As mediocre Covenant was, I do hope a sequel follows to finish up the prequel story.

Perfect timing. Just finished the book the other day and loved it. Great video!

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Thank you for this, I'm a decades long fan of the Alien series, I'll find this novelization version and read it. I've had Mt own thoughts on the series but was unaware there was more reading material out there. Getting lazy as I get old I guess. Very well put together video, I was fascinated. Seriously, good job.

Thanks for your videos man! I've been an Aliens and Predator fan since the 80s and I jump at any kind of content that is of good quality.

There were so many good ideas in the earlier drafts of both prequels that ultimately got scrapped. So many missed opportunities, it's a real shame. I also can't understand why they would leave out the bit of dialogue about the crew having scanned for viruses before they landed. Everyone thought it was dumb how the they seemingly landed on the planet without the slightest consideration of the potential danger. I wish there could be one more film that would right the ship. Explain that David did NOT create the alien, but rather worked to re-create it by following the Engineer's research. It would explain the presence of the Deacon in Prometheus, and it could reconcile why the ship on LV-426 is apparently so old.

I wanna see David again. Would be interesting if he'd end up having the pathogen change him like it did to Elden in Fire and Stone and dealing with the changes in his mind and the existential crisis for an android experiencing all that.

We did not see Walter die. I would like to see some story line on his survival and his interest to stop David if possible

I do enjoy your vids man. Great work. I, like you, can’t get enough cannon.

This video, the narrative, the voice and the whole vibe is just superb. Kuddos

Just gotta day your channel is awesome! Thank you for this amazing content! 🙏

Alien Theory is my constant source to Alien news, new as old. You're the best! And my goodness, this was bloody good! Covenant just became so much better & intelligent. Why the hell wasn't any of this mentioned here in the movie? David becomes even more fleshed out, his possible agenda, as well as it gives us more to look forward to in the (hopefully) next installment. Knowing what he wants is a serious hint to a continuation. Now we only have a weak version of a hint what could happen next. Also Walter was given more to say & do here. And I deeply appreciate that Daniels states that they DID check thoroughly for pathogens & viruses etc before they landed, & did so again upon landing. This is one of the strongest criticism of this film, that the humans just step outside without protection. They really shouldn't have anyway but the novel at least suggested they didn't do that as total idiots, that they actually did make checks first. These missing adds & parts of story, dialogue etc had not saved Covenant financially but it had made it better in a more intelligent way, you feel from this missing information that there was more method & plan both from David but also from the film makers themselves. It very much now feels we got the lazy version of the film. Now I am almost thinking about getting the novel, it could potentially be better than the film. And, yep, I absolutely want the third film. I deeply dislike Prometheus but Covenant is a weird guilty pleasure. David is such a strong, fascinating character, love or hate this we should have a proper end to his story. Otherwise will this unfinished business just be an annoying thorn in our sides. The only thing stopping this is the financial aspect. A third Alien prequel film about David is a huge risk & I believe that will always be the biggest hinder. That & the fact that Ridley is now quite old. How much longer can he make movies? Time is running out in so many ways. Let's hope Disney has some brains to realize that much at least.

Just had ACL surgery watching all the Alien movies listening to Alien Theory in between and listening to Alien Out Of The Shadows mostly at night mostly. This channel is legendary ✊

This is awesome man, top notch as ever!

top vid really enjoyed it even realeased on my birthday lol thank you AT! great work as always. and yes more david 4 sure

Although I was mostly happy with Prometheus, I thought Covenant was pretty darn weak, although it must be noted that Prometheus had some pretty weak spots. All in all, I could do without the prequel movies. I would be happy with a remake of Alien III based on the unproduced script treatment. Thanks again for the time and effort you put into your videos, they are enjoyed and appreciated!

amazing episode...your the gift that keeps on giving.

I really enjoyed this video. Excellent job.

We definitely appreciate this!!! Great video Alien Theory!!!! Our love for Covenant and Prometheus will not end. But we feel strongly in at the very least, finishing the story of Engineers, David, and his version of Xenos/Queen on Origae- 6. Then start a new story.

I'd love to see more of david. Fastbender is an amazing actor and the character is so interesting to watch and see how far he goes to pursue perfection of his creation.

really nicely done!

The commentary was so good in Convenant.. He explains Everything!

This guy deserves more subscribers

I’m conflicted. I didn’t mind the two prequels, however the Newt / Hicks comic storyline was simply outstanding. Michael Fassbender is truely excellent in this role, and the character David is fascinating. I feel this would be an interesting direction to go, though I have to say the missing dialogue covered in this video considerably ramps up this storyline!

They need to continue from Covenant, Scott has done an amazing job at bringing continuity to the series

I wonder what 70's Ridley Scott and crew would have come up with as far as the origins of the Alien, and if it would be different from now. I'd like to see what befell the engineers in Prometheus. I think leaving that crisis unexplored hurt the movie's story. Honestly, I think Ridley Scott doesn't understand what makes people come back for the Alien, it's not the stupid AI, it's the Creature, and wanting a more satisfying origin story than "robot makes killing thing because human's bad". Prometheus was a letdown for me because it felt like it was a 2-hour long tease that never lead anywhere. Covenant was a letdown because even with the proto-morphs and the "proto-alien" It felt like another tease. It makes such a grandiose attempt at explaining the Xenomorphs origin (and how they are supposed to be made by an earth android) that it makes the movie Alien look pointless. Parts in Prometheus were interesting, like the idea that jesus was supposed to be an engineer. Some sort of retaliation by the Engineers being stopped by whatever was a good concept. The ship in Alien could have been that, and the xenomorphs, or one specifically, getting the pilot like it obviously did, causing the ship to crash or never take off. Both movies were so convoluted with David and his ideals, it's like Ridley was trying to tell two stories, side by side, not giving enough time or attention to either. I would love to see a new origin told, one that didn't make the first movie feel like RS is trying to overshadow it. I think he's got too much of Bladerunner in his mind to be handling a proper Alien movie. Hell Alien Isolation was a better installment as a "movie" than Prometheus, Covenant, and 3.

Stumbles across your channel. Nice nice 😊 I'm aliens fan. I agree on seeing more david his path . His role he plays

I love your voice narration. I hope Alien Awakening happens soon. Ridley Scott needs to direct it.

I'd love for someone to do a character study of David from the point of view that *David fashioned himself to be more like Lawrence of Arabia.* On re-watching the prequels again last night, it occurred to me that the more we understand about the life of T. E. Lawrence, the more insight we may gain into David's motivations, his psyche, and his plans in upcoming films. I'm eager to see what he'll do now that he's got full control of the Covenant and its colonists.

Always great material. Looking forward to a great Alien movie.. Or games. All the best from Romania 🇷🇴

This is a good place to start a new direction looking at Walter/David aspect and what he foes with the crew, if anything.

give us more dont care how many its the best of xenomorph's and we love it

Good to hear from you always!!! One day we'll get to see how this prequels ends!!! ✌✌✌

Good work brother. I love this film and if anyone has a problem with that, then make your way to loading bay three the moment the safety- belt strobe is out!

I would love an A.I. heavy Alien movie. The artificial intelligence has always been my favorite part of the universe, and I'd love to see an insane android descend into deeper madness.

Late to the party. Year 2022 march. I saw the first movie back in 1979. I was amazed by it, but it's old now. I also saw the 2rd movie in 1986, that was also amazing. The 3rd movie was a disaster ! I said I would never watch another one again. Fast forward to the last two movies. I love how David is so Evil in his ways for the search for the answers for life. Your video was outstanding, and yes I would like to see another movie to really see what happens to David. For me blood shots did nothing for the movie, but the story of David and his lies upon lies, and the way he still has got away with everything has made this movie the best 2 movies since the 2rd movie in 1986. Left With David, saying, night, night, don't let the bed bugs bit..... Had me on the side of my seat, not knowing if David would get his way in the End. In the end, I had to say, I was more interested in what David got up to than a bath full of bloody Mary shot's, which shows, you can make a fantastic movie, without it, or very little of it. My points of interest.

Though, I don't like David having created the alien - he was far and away the best part of these films.

If Scott asserts that the Bladerunner and Alien universes are identical, I really *would* like to see something which sews that together more fully, and perhaps in some way does a better job of meshing the Scott and Cameron visions together (or even against each other, but in a plot-explained way). There's a huge variety of angles which can be played back and forth.

I want more movies with Xenomorphs, personally. I dont mind if David has a story in it also, though. Just want more alien movies. Bring it.

when i was younger and first saw prometheus i was dissapoited. i expectet an xenomorph, even when it was clear (the titel had no "alien"). but now, being older and with covenant i started to gain a intense interest in the meaning and philosophie in the stories. i would like to see more of david, androids and engineers. i always loved alien and i started to love the new aspects in the movie-series.

The androids in the Prometheus and Covenant are written in such an interesting way I just wish it was it's own IP and not connected to Alien. Or at the least be set after the movies so we can speculate on what will happen

Thank you Alien Theory for the Interesting mysteries Theories.

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One of the impressions I was left with from the last movie. Davey boy has a colony ship and xenomorph eggs, and being a complete bastard I think the direct attack on Earth isn't his style. My guess is he's going to establish his own little kingdom and spend the years seeding every habitable world within reach of humanity with Xenomorphs, just to watch humanity go through a protracted conflict and death.

An interesting exploration of the differences between the original screenplay and the theatrucal release. As always, such a tragedy that these themes and more were not included in the movie. Inevitably, movies tend to only scratch the surface of what could have ultimately been, pandering only to what audiences (and studio executives) expect.

Great video

Alien movies I'd look forward to: 1)David creates a colony using the people and embryos onboard the colony ship. Somebody figures out he's planning on using them all as alien incubators and they fight back. 2)Ripley doing basically anything 3)The story of how aliens were allowed to get loose on Earth, sort of an Earth War prequel I guess? 4)Battle for Ryushi 5)Other AvP stories, only hopefully less bad

I really hope Ridley Scott gets to make Alien Awakening so we can at least conclude the prequels (even if Disney reboots the series after- something I wouldn’t like them to do but seems likely to happen). I actually liked both Prometheus and Covenant, and can’t wait to see where the series goes from there.

I really hope they make a 3rd movie that finishes David’s story and ultimately explains the biomechanical nature of the xenomorph vs the more organic praetomorph, maybe David finds a way to use himself as an incubator upon realizing the missing piece is what makes him better than humans: synthetics. Please please please Ridley Scott make the third film. It makes me so angry that people hated a movie I loved and so it’s conclusion may never be made, but lets have hope!

i would love to see a movie just on Weyland, his discoveries, inventions and how he built "The Company"

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I've often wondered if the heavy religious themes Covenant is dripping in are why so many people didn't like it. As if to say Covenant is a conversation most people don't want to have. The very opening scene evokes the themes of Paradise Lost, "Did I request thee, Maker, from my clay to mould me man?". David is even named after the king that ruled through conquest, which David later states as his goal. Then there's the powerful Cain and Able parallels between David and Walter. David could even be seen in a Luciferian light, essentially in exile from the heaven of humanity to create his own kingdom, even implying it himself when mentioning ruling in Hell. Personally I love the idea Covenant presented of uniting the Xenomorph and AI narrative into one. One of the most chilling scenes in the first movie was Ash lamenting how perfect the xenomorph was. Plus more Fassbender is never a bad thing, lol

As with the Alien Resurrection novel some of these crucial details would have added so much clarity to the storytelling.

Thank you. That was deep.

The sharing of the novel commentary was interesting and would have added to the movie. Your commentary as always was insightful and thought provoking. In my fantasy you would be a consultant for future Alien projects. I could see a series of various stories told like dark horse comics has. Snyder got a chance, why not you?!?!

I'm most anxious to see the story that closes the loop and takes Prometheus back to Alien.

David is the most important charicture in the new films and I love this and I want to see it through.

I want the story to continue after Aliens, as if no other movies had been made. Tell the story like you did in the Earth War. That was very entertaining.

what is the backround music you are using, i love it!!!!!

I like the prequels, Prometheus more than Covenant. As much as I understand the point that some have had: that the alien might have been better left unexplained and mysterious, I think the world is more interesting with the addition of the Engineers as humanoid beings with minds and motives incomprehensible or estranged to our own. I feel that angle of cosmic horror was more interesting than David's god complex storyline, though it is a storyline elevated by Michael Fassbender's acting. As such, I do want to see some kind of resolution to the David story, and Covenant serves well enough as a second part to David's plot, but sadly falls far short as a further exploration of the wider mythos Prometheus teased (though the neomorphs and David's experiments aren't unwelcome), and as a 'traditional' alien story (I feel making them an android's pet project severely diminishes them). I'd rather have a movie focussed properly on David and more akin to Prometheus with its strange and hostile universe without relying so much on ol' Bananahead as a crutch, especially so early on in the timeline, and then have a sequel with Weyland-Yutani and the used future we all know as a separate film.

I'd definitely like to see more.

Enough of the xenomorphs. We get it. Please give us the full story of the Engineers. That story had so much potential. The little bits we got in Prometheus and Covenant were so interesting. For a true believer or better yet..Knower..of extraterrestrial life.. it almost felt like it could be true. Tighten up Ridley!

I want more. we need a tie in from the pre's leading directly into the original alien kinda like the "thing" pre leading into the original. a series would be awesome of course

Can't wait to see what is next for David. Even if it's a half arsed film I'll still support it

I'd love to see one more... they need to wrap up the David arc and lead into Alien. I would like to see a chase movie with David on the Covenant, having free reign, and Walter having survived racing to stop him.

I feel the very essence of this saga fading away. I am a 23 y/o fan of this films, and I used to be scared to death of this creature, and it was because of the suspense and the mysterious nature of what was out there hunting the crews. I feel that the prequels have focused too much on trying to nail every edge of this universe and its origin, and left behind the horrific suspense that it should have. You can tell by the final act from Covenant, in which, after all the 2 hours of almost purely explaining, they tried to go back to the inside-the-ship suspense of having this “unknown organism” running around. I like the explanation from Prometheus and Covenant though, but I would like a third prequel that brings back this iconic villain with the terror that it deserves to inflict on the audience. I want to sh*t my pants at the movies when I see it for the first time. I want it to bring back that feeling of helplessness and desperation, like the videogame Alien Isolation did.

The whole "off-the-bat genocide on arrival and David becoming the creator of the aliens" plot twist, does not work at all for me.

I would love to see it part 3

16:41 : a very haunting screenplay, made even more so seeing the lean artistry of the typed words. The directorial choices made to bring the film to the screen are unexpectedly brilliant.

They should have put that in in movie, clearing David's intentions. He's an interesting villain. Perfect example of AI going haywire Fassbenders great. I just wanna see if and how he's going to keep Xenomorphs in check as he travels system to system

I'd like to see a conclusion. David is really interesting, I'd like to see at least a satisfying ending with him.

I always thought the comic, Aliens: Apocalypse: The Destroying Angels did a really good job exploring the Engineers. Also it had amazing artwork. I remember thinking (before Prometheus) that the Aliens were some kind of bio weapon created by a long dead race. Maybe not even the Engineers but someone older than them. It's a neat "theory" to explore. Maybe eggs are immortal and the ship from Alien could've been there for hundreds or thousands of years. Maybe it was old when humans were still living in caves! The mind goes to all sorts of crazy places. Like David said. Humans can't resist a mystery. So it came as a bit of a shock when... all my theories were thrown out the window and the Xenomorph is a relatively new creation. Created by the company (indirectly) that sought to control them. So personally... while I can't say I love the new direction that didn't go along with any of my ideas... I still want to see what happens next. How does David's creation get to the ship that the crew of the Nostromo found. Clearly the Engineers aren't all dead. A new mystery that I must unravel!

Out fucking standing narrating. love the david story fassebender is awesome

We must see another prequel.....pleeeeeease!! More Fassbender!!

And this would explain the original Alien: the Engineer ship found on LV426 was one of the (possibly) many ships David sent through the universe, packed with eggs to spread his "empire" through his vision of "elegant warfare". The Engineer pilot could be a clone he made through DNA manipulation to create servile Engineers able to pilot the ships, and this one would have succumbed to a containment breach that got him infected? Or the use of the use of the Pathogen to clone it would have made it a host from birth, with a DNA enabling the growth of an alien inside him at some point (maybe even a Neomorph?)... There are so many possibilities! Lots of people hate to be left without clear answers, but it also allows us to create many theories, making the lore even more alive in our minds!

would very much enjoy it if the franchise went more into A.I. should have a picture of david on the cover of the first alien movie i love this material

What up brotha... I know the last few films weren’t what we were hoping for, but I REALLY want to see where Davids story goes.

Interesting video, I wish the prequels were a separate storyline and have nothing to do with "Alien" as such, just similar. A bit like Blade Runner is sometimes classed in the same universe but has nothing to do with "Alien". It should be mentioned to Mr Scott that while the virus does leave the floral as in the plants it is precisely designed to kill the fauna which is the animal side of nature.

I want a follow up where Ridley S. Has control without Disney interfering too much. I would love to see his final ideas and how he would tie it all together.