@@PokeMaster03 nothing zappe does within these 5-6 games will mean anything. Mac brought them to the playoffs last year with less talent than they have now. No chance Zappe starts unless Mac shits the bed.
Mac Jones looked great last year, but we also had an offensive scheme that worked. We lost McDaniels, refused to replace him, have Matt fucking Patricia calling plays, tried a new offensive scheme, and didn't bother getting Jones a single playmaker during the off-season when all those trades were happening. Their best effort was Davante Parker, who is okay but isn't a true alpha receiver. Give Mac Jones a Gabe Davis type receiver, a Stallone to compliment the workhorse that is Meyers, and you'll see a lot more happen.
your very wrong. gtitty dancing mac is soft and not good. can we make a bet? i am 42 and watch Brady best Bledsoe as a man. i bet you was a baby then huh?
@@lordoffaiyum9727 reports from camp said Brady was playing better than bledsoe. Bledsoe even admitted that in one of his interviews. There were no reports that zappe was playing better than Mac. And bledsoe was playing like ass before Brady came in anyways. These are different situations old timer.
The issue with the Pats offense isn’t Mac Jones. It’s Matt Patricia and Joe Judge. Belichick needs to consider giving the reigns to Troy Brown or calling up Edelman to call the offensive plays if it continues to be anemic.
Yeah 10th best offense and 4th best rushing attack in league with mediocre weapons. This with Meyers missing 2 games, no 3rd down back and starting QB out 2 games. Fire these two clowns and let Troy run things.
@@MassAppeal966 17th in yards per game, tied for 21st in passing yards, as of week 5. Only thing the offense does well is run (9th). Team is even bottom 14 in points per game. Keep in mind that the PPG went up without Mac Jones, since you want to add in the “without their starting qb” excuse. I’m not saying that Mac’s a top QB in the league but that the offense took a significant downgrade without McDaniels. Judge had his hands in 2 of the worst league offenses as a head coach, and Patricia had 3 bottom half offenses as head coach (2 of which ranked 20th or worse), 2 of which had Stafford.
I'm a pats fan and I just think it's a bit dumb to assume anything about bailey Zappie who has only played 3 games for us, and also to assume something about mac Jones who has only played 1 season for us so far.
I still believe playcalling is the main reason why these qb stats aren't great. too conservative and every time they get to the red zone, Patricia decides to go 2 straight runs and throw on 3rd and long. they're too predictable on offense
Mac Daddy Jones or Bailey Zappe? There’s a reason Mac is the starter and Bailey is the 3rd string… People said the same thing about Dak and Cooper Rush. The teams know they have very solid backups, but if the starter is ready to go, you obviously will select the starter. C’mon now.
They definitely don’t have any controversy. Mac Jones is trying to learn a brand new offense, the third playbook for him in 3 years. Then he got injured… Zappe has been playing the safest football known to mankind. His first touchdown against the Packers shouldn’t have happened considering the play clock was 5 seconds expired. On top of it Zappe played the worst defense in the NFL and if Mac Jones was playing, the Patriots would have crushed it even more. They asked players in the locker room and all said Mac is the guy. If Zappe went against the Ravens, we would have been destroyed…
there is no QB controversy in New England but i respect that you wanted to jump on the bandwagon to get some views. pretty smart move imo. also listening to you talk about the ravens game makes me think you only watched the 4th quarter. he went toe to toe against lamar until the last quarter. yeah they lost the game because of his picks and the one fumble but they were also in the game because mac kept them in the game. this video honestly screams " im apart of the zappe stan train"
Dude the o-line was terrible the beginning of the season, mac was rushed 31 times in the first 3 games zappe only had 13, tom brady wouldn't even be playing that good with that many rushes
Mac was really good against Baltimore until those last drives. Zappe has been good, yes but its been two games. You're not gonna bench your starter for a bench player for playing two good games.
I'm convinced the Patriots have such a good teaching program that they make quarterbacks look good beyond their talents. Here are some examples, Matt Cassel and Jimmy Garoppolo. None of them performed like they did in New England.
Bailey Zappe has one game where he throws a single touchdown against the worst defense in the NFL?? Last year Mac Jones was leading an offense that put up 50 twice against bad competition. Give me a break
Yes maybe best player start there no such thing as Zappe will.make Mac better cause the pressure from Bill ALWAYS on no matter what dedication never a question with Mac level must rise or be benched same for Zappe
I was gonna talk a little shit but I just realized that the NFL is basically reality tv for us men and ppl are just drawn to some type of Controversy lol like why replace they first round with the backup 🤦♂️ that's literally what hes there for. To be a gamemanerger
Love the support for Zappe as he delivered impressive performances so far backing up for Mac. That said, those saying Mac is on the hot seat need to watch Mac’s film and recognize that he is a starter and is stages ahead of Zappe.
@ladawg81 what i mean is moreso that they loved those wierd deep shot 50/50s with mac which the pats cant execute. with zappe they seem to be going back to basic north south running, short throw football. I didnt see many deep risky throws from zappe because the pats know thats not the recipe for success with him. it could have been growing pains but the pats offense i saw in baltimore was not the same one i saw in detroit or clevelend
Bro mac jones cant extend plays bro if u watch the film he does not have good pocket presence and does not have a strong arm . Zappe has good pocket presence and can extend plays and avoid sacks zappe is the guy for the pats mac is good but zappe has more potential mac has high floor low ceiling cause he cant extend plays and. Does not have a strong arm
@@somerandompatriotsfan4415 exactly that’s why this guy sucks he was playing with a back injury before the ankle injury and this guy is saying he sucks. Wait until he comes back fresh and see where things go before saying Zappe should start over him.
you never know with bill. he doesnt give a fugg about where u was picked. it's all about results. if zappe keeps playing well he gonna keep playing him
@@JP-wm1cc Yep that’s exactly why he didn’t go top 5 while people like Trey Lance who played subpar competition and wasn’t nearly as accomplished as Mac Jones went top 3. High floor Low ceiling
If your really a Pats fan then admit that mac has sucked the end of last year and this season. Hes literally gotten worse right in front of us🤣. 4 int and 2td in 3 whole games against some pretty bad defenses. He was supposed to be better than last season NO EXCUSES. I didnt even count the pick in miami because that was a no call Howard did pass interfere with Parker. The game Mac was injured though and the last time he took the field he was at HOME and threw 3 picks and 0 tds against the leagues worst defense and secondary at the time Balitimore Ravens. Thats the same shitty defense that allowed Tua to throw damn near 500yds and 6!!!! count em 6!!!! TDs 🤣🤣🤣 Mac is a pick throwing nervous wreck with a baby arm and honestly we don't need him here. Maybe Carolina or Jacksonville or something but he does't fit here. Too unbrady like too many Ints and bonehead passes, too many floating lollipops uggh should I countinue? Zappe on the other hand looks amazing and better at just about everything. Hes made VERY little mistakes*** Along with his good quick decision making, pocket awareness, confidence and BALL PLACEMENT. I like him better already. I'll be depressed if Mac comes back to start. I'm tired of being the laughing stock of the afc east. We want to win again We want a real QB again. Zappe looks like a real QB. Mac looks like a back-up at best.
Honestly I want the best quarterback to play, if Bailey pushes Mac to Mac him better, great. If zappe is hungry and is trying to win, great as well. I would rather have Mac personally but it’s good to have a quarterback controversy cause it pushes the players to their max potiental
hell he wont 🤣 he'll do what ever to win are you crazy? Plus macs been playing like shit too haha easy decision. I can see mac on a plane to carolina for mccaffrey or sumthing right now. He simply hasn't been good and Bailey has I mean Zappes looked reeaally reaally well. The quick decision making, pocket awareness and ball placement is a lot like that #12 guy that used to play here. Hes just a little shorter and more mobile so it looks cool when he moves around.
@@Youthinkyoutheking__burgerking noo lol its not different its the same because mac aint that good either haha. hes basically sucked this year and the end of last season what are you watching?
@@jack799 true but not the way they played. Brady dinked and dunked five to ten yards for years, Montana the same. It doesn’t mean they are bad but they took care of the ball and won a lot of games with that west coast offense. How many does Rodgers, mahomes, Allen have?
Lmao it’s been 1 start and he threw for like 180 and a td against a bad lions defense, dunno how those are worldbeater stats. Y’all need to chill haha, and I’m not a pats or a mac fan either fwiw
I love Zappe... and as a Rams fan... if they choose either QB... I'd wish my team would invest in either Zappe or Mac Jones and try to pry him from Belichick's claws.. because Matt Stafford is starting to show Peyton Manning Noodle ARM Disease.
What's sad is that Stafford has probably has a top 5 biggest arm in nfl history. Accurate no, but in pure yeeting force Stafford got an actual bazooka of an arm. Seeing him deteriorate just shows how you can't be at your peak longer than 10-15 years (unless you're tom brady who peaked at 35(
I wouldn’t blame Stafford 100% this year since the O-Line has major issues and is changing every week. Robinsons been kind of a let down too so far ngl.
Is this the same Bailey Zappe who snapped the ball 1.5 seconds after the play clock expired to throw a TD pass during the Packers game? Or is this a different one?
This video is strictly here to fire up the comment section. I'm taking the bait because I can't help myself. There is no QB controversy. Mac is the man and he will continue to get better. Glad we have a decent backup in Zappe. You being a Pats fan, watching every game and knowing all the variables involved only confirms that this video is designed to spark engagement and do nothing else. No chance you actually feel this way, man
@@Jason-rr1xu If I said, "walrus-tree plus yellow elephant-bird divided by John F. Kennedy times the square root of Bosnian Rastafari gangster rap odyssey minus buddhist brazilian jiu jitsu equals Matt Patricia's game plan" that would make more sense than a Tom-Bledsoe/Mac-Zappe comparison
@@JR-ii5de by no means am i comparing either mac or zappe to brady or bledsoe but zappe looks better fot this team nothing mac has done has looked exciting
@@Jason-rr1xu Honestly, man coaching/play calling and Oline has been so bad, I almost want the Mac haters to get their wish. For whatever reason they let Zappe use play action as a crutch but wouldn't let Mac use it or RPO, they started to implement play action and he improved. I don't have the energy to really defend Mac anymore tho. Let them put Zappe in for an extended period of time and we'll see what happens.... I don't think it will be good but I almost need it to happen just to prove it. This team sucks tho. Penalties. Horrible play calling. Arrogant Bill pissing away his legacy. I wish I didn't care....
To everyone saying B Zappe doesn't have the arm strength to be a starter.... You remember when everyone said that about Mac Jones, right? Arm strength can be increased.
This is, once again, an extremely crazy take from you guys. And a very, very bad one... again. Mac Jones is the future for the Pats. And we still don't know what Zappe is yet. 2 games is a microscopic sample. Dude can play? Yes. Can he bench Jones and make the Pats throw him to the trash can? Remains to be seen.
Can we please pump the brakes! There's no controversy. Mac is the better QB. Once he's healthy enough to play, he'll play. This isn't Brady-Bledsoe II either. Tom Brady was better than Drew Bledsoe throughout training camp of 2001. It's why he kept Brady as the starter. Patriots were 5-5 (5-3 with Brady starting) when Belichick declared Brady the starter the rest of the year.
Mac Jones to start with a 20-7 first 2 QTRs, Zappe the reliever in the 3QTR , forces the defense to switch up 35-14, Brian Hoyer comes in for the SAVE 42-17.. Game over, REDSOX nation!!! NFL will be forced to create a "SAVE" category!!! LMAO
The only thing accurate here is that Zappe has looked great in his short time at QB...certainly for a rookie. Don''t agree that Mac is on a lateral trajectory with an average ceiling. The more you talk, the more you show you don't much about football. Jakobi Meyers is a great WR, and you're basically passing him off as Nelson Agholor 2.0. Oh, BTW...Even Agholor has shown signs of WR life this season. Don't quit your day job.
This video is a perfect example of how insane sports fans have become over the last 5-10 years lol like yea Zappe def looks like a legit QB but pump the breaks on this whole QB controversy BS man he just beat the frigen Detroit Lions n their DEAD LAST DEFENSE, Stevenson had 175 total yards which opens things up even more.. Mac has proven he can lead a team to the playoffs already and don’t forget he literally lost the best off coordinator in the league n is dealing w two brand new coaches(to him not the Pats obviously) running the offense so 3 games to me just isn’t enough to say he’s fallen off or is choking.. in the end I believe that all of this insanity of Bailey Zappe is going to push Mac to make sure he does not become the next Bledsoe to Zappe’s Brady n he’s gonna come back like gangbusters so as a pats fan I think it’s a win win for everyone(except Brian Hoyer lol his backup gig is officially gone he is now qb3 for sure)
Oh my God.. The Patriots did it again lol. They found another Brady. This dude had 6000 passing yards and 62 TDs in 14 games last year. That's 426 yards a game and almost 5 TDs a game at 69.3%. There's no in between for this guy, he's either a bust or the next elite NFL qb.
Zappe is the much better QB than MJ - he is the Patriots future. MJ can`t throw properly the ball - embarrassing. Zappe is the new NFL legend! He is a sniper - big gun caliber
This video is numbingly stupid, a QB controversy after one game against a bad Detroit team where the defense pitched a shut out, scored 7 of the 29 points and stopped Detroit on 4th down 6 times. This comment section shows how young many of you are, you've never seen a Patriot losing season. None of you experienced a rebuild or an ounce of adversity for over 20 years.
Painstaking video filled with absolute redundant info! 10:00 min. video that should have been 4:00 min. Get an editor dude! If we had an elite QB all these so called offensive busts would be very good players!
Two young QBs, still developing. I’d say let them push each other to get better, and see who prevails. Isn’t this something Belichick wants at every position group? Maybe they can become much more than great game managers, and be more than another Kirk Cousins. Agholor must beat this nasty tendency to play volleyball with footballs thrown his way, otherwise he is a pretty good receiver.
Bros 1 and 1 what's the hype his a good back up look at cooper Rush I don't understand the obsession people have with over hyping back ups bailey was good in college but pump the breaks a little he still has alot to prove a healthy mac wins that job
Zappe has done something no QB has done around here since TB12 left....the games are FUN to watch again!! We are not doing predictable plays that will either boringly more the chains a bit or shut us down. And Zappe is a style of QB that we have never seen in these parts. The closest would be when i came onboard Patriots Nation and Steve Grogan was QB (near the end of his career). He was mobile in the pocket, but typically just to run it. Zappe is a surprise. He will dance around out of the pocket and make a pass. He may leave and then run it. He will start running an then pass. FUN.....it FUN to watch!!! I've been sooooo bored!!! He is a breath of fresh air. And 2 last points. I never felt Mac was a good as folks acted. They wanted a new QB to adore. He seemed like a nice kid, so OK, it's him. But dang he messes up alot and BB has coddled him. I see FAR more potential with Zappe. 2nd, the team has rallied around Zappe in a way I didn't see for Mac (or the Alien lol..not a Cam fan). Not sure why, but they have been responding FAR better to him than anyone else. BB will always go w/the best player. I'm hoping Zappe is out there for a long time, as long as his play supports it!!!