The Penuel Show In Conversation with Joost Strydom, The Great Trek, Self Doen, Off-grid Energy 

Thank you to Penuel Show for the effort as always... and well done! I have shared this interview wide and far...

Penuel check comments. With that being said, when are you implementing your thoughts ?

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The Oranions are very unique ❤

I am of the view that Panuel did not do justice to this interview because there’s nothing one can take out of this other than having given free marketing and publicity to this racist movement. There is not even one probing question around the monuments and former heroes of the town that has blood on their hands. What makes things worse is to compare a town with a population of 3000 not even qualifying to form 1 municipal ward that must at least by having a population of between 12 and 20 thousand to form a ward. You compare this with SA government that has a 60 million population including whites. So gullible 😢

Agreed!

Well put. Thanks for that reflective insight.

This is so True Father ❤

Mxm, brothers? One is white one is black so what brothers are you talking about? Colonizer and the oppressed even in this day in age. We're coming for orania is not their land. Brothers, nxa sies man!

Why did you go their?

@@sephoramandondo2548to promote eff lol😂

Yes, they are welcoming and warm, but that isn't from their hurt. If that was true, they would let anybody, regardless of skin color and the same value, let leave with them in the same town. to me, that's racism without showing discrimination, WHAT they are saying is that all black people are criminals

Is there a concept of cheap white labour in Orania?

i think all people no matter what ethnicity should build cities like it

@@Waldgxnger

ek dink weer ,soos in die donker eeu in engeland, dat die ander lande rondom mens sal aanval omdat mens nie n sterk genoeg krag gaan wees om tee te staan nie. Dis maar net n voorbeeld maar eks nie seker hoe lank so vrede gaan hou nie want geskiedenis herhaal homself mos al het mens goeie intensies...

But does God want us to live only with people of our own race?

Living with people who are of the same culture is what people do all over the world.​@@CD-fu3mq

Enkosi.. Nothing has changed.

@@mawethumdeliswa7925 ANC is in charge a political party full of black people and yet they haven't made a single attempt to help out their fellow black people instead they brought more suffering. These people are looking out for their own yet us as blacks we can't do the same. We fail to even support Spaza shops run by our own people yet we can easily buy from Spaza's owned by Somalians. At Orania they stood up and made the change themselves and didn't depend on government. What stops us from doing the same? If we keep on focusing on racism trust me we're not going anywhere

​@@mawethumdeliswa7925start by you and change

Did for a lot of us,those people,are successful,if others hate that they are selfish

Mine too. Penual is full of surprises. Well Done. I've never been too Orania. The only thing I differ is regarding exploitation. Nobody should exploit anybody else.

What will happen when population grows old and the young are not interested in manual jobs?

In Britain most less meaningful jobs are done by their own but recently they been getting a lot of external help. But i do think they’ll change as time goes on with population grown.

This is an important point for us. We need to up our numbers and have 5+ kids in each family. We need to grow. @@mxolisimagubane3204

Keep in mind that own labour does not necessarily mean everything yourself. Own labour, in this instance, should actually be described as community labour. They keep their labour within the community. Work do get contracted, but not to someone from outside.

I wish to start something like Orania. But it is more focused on African people to build a city like Dubai or Singapore from scratch. The aim is to build the first truly global African city built with black powder. The goal is to convert Tembisa into a city by 2050. I will call it Tembisa city. But Want to combine Tembisa, Khatorus, and KwatsaDuza. All these cities or townships form the backbone of Ekurhuleni municipal. And like my political icon Lee Kuan Yew who built Singapore from scratch, I also have such dream to turn Ekurhuleni municipal into a megalopolis like Tokyo, but it's a dream if not an outright fantastic dream. I for starters have one hundred and fifty in my pocket, and I will take fifty five to buy two brutal fruits 620 ml, to relax before I go to sleep. I know brutal fruit is for ladies, but I am a womanist

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They are making a plan with your land....lol..just like during apartheid....you will become a man when you realize this fact and realise your stupidity....goodluck...

@nganekwane2295 volume please

As soon as the majority of South Africans come to this realization, South Africa will become a regional power again. Less EFF thinking, more Action SA thinking.

Well said bro!

Absolutely, great respect for these two young people❤❤❤❤

Fascinating interview❤❤❤

Mainstream media sells that idea because it's controversial and gets the clicks. Alternative Media, like Penuel, exposes the biases of large corporate media houses, because he is only after the truth.

Spot on!

Who owns the media in SA?

Well said Sir, it's the idea that people are fighting

@sizananimleya8668 the irony is that that used to be black people. We used to be very loyal to each other, now we are loyal to money. Very sad.

@@homemail9653 very sad indeed. Maybe we need to engage with like minded people and try to build for ourselves and for the future.

The lack of trust and selfishness is what is holding us back.

Our people its like they were created in hell

No one supported Ntabeleng when she formed a Black owned bank. Africans looked at her weaknesses and destroyed her, instead of helping her.

And crucially stop being puppets of corrupt African governments. You heard the man. You must just believe in an idea and start. White people in South African wants to see black people in South Africa and Africa prosper. Guys like Joost and Afriforum will gladly share their experience and knowledge if black leaders approach them in goodfaith. The notion that most of us are racist and dont want black people to succeed is not true. Its political games.

Exactly right. Liberation starts in the mind. The untapped potential of South Africa is enormous. We need to think "local community" and take individual responsibility for our lives.

you are correct...we can get rid of the rest of the world stealing our resources under the guise of helping Africa...

@@ingridartus4441 I fully agree. I'm Xhosa and I often think of the potential the Eastern Cape has. There are so many people from there that go to Cape Town and other big cities for work. Surely within their small (rural) communities, the expats could throw a miniscule portion of their salaries into a their different pots and save up for one thing every year. Eg. Year 1: 5 borehole taps (of course tested for drinkability). Year 2: Build one abattoir, to be manned by trained pros...preferably from the local community. Etc...all while making road infrastructure the main fight with local government. From this small idea alone, I believe so much traffic and a booming local economy would arise. This way, you've got people job creation, PLUS people would fight back anyone who threatens these structures because it would be the pride and joy of locals. So many other people would benefit. And I think of this because in the rural E.C, agrarian life is almost all that happens. The government is not coming to anyone's rescue. I come from one of the townships of Cape Town and run my own pest control company. There's a boom in township tourism again and because of this, so many small businesses tend to call for my services. I've started looking into servicing creches and other early childhood development centers as most of them are home-based and because of this, pests could arise from anywhere. The potential is there for everyone to eat for a very long time but for most, it's very difficult to think beyond tonight's meal, unfortunately. But you're spot on with thinking "local community"...1 million percent!!!

Politics will swallow him, he is right where he is.

Penuel really does deserve the "hype" the guy delivers. Keep it up Pen, we support you and our contributions are also forthcoming to support your channel and independence. But yes I agree that you should not into politics you're playing a very vital role exactly where you are.

Politics is for corrupt people and narcissists who want to govern over others. He is creating much better impact where he is

He would definitely change this country

Not politics. Politics never change a country to be better. They actually are enemies of progression. He can change the country with what he is currently doing. Advising him to join politics is like selling him to the devil. He will be swallowed, like the previous writer.

vs.... the pensioners hogging seats in parliament.

The production quality is next level the video the lighting the audio quality with the wind blowing is extraordinary Well done guys

@@jasonjohnson905 shoutout to Tribal Media House 🔥🔥🔥

Might have been more interesting to show up some of the places during the interview. We don't have a clue how it looks like!

@vt5371 Will try see if we can get cutaways and load them in a different video and maybe platform.

Firstly, Pen thank you for always delivering quality videos with thought provoking interviews. So happy about this episode because Orania seems shutout from the rest of the country, so it's hard to know what it is like. I have watched a few doccies and read a few articles. But this great to hear from their leader, from the horse's mouth. We could all learn from how this little town has developed and sustains itself. Everyone is putting in the work to make it work with ethical and moral integrity.

Australia and NZ were built the same way as Orania - through hard work and sacrifice WITHOUT Black labour.

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Those that laught usually can't except others succeeding

​@refemecoemokhooa3793 you laugh because you don't understand

Yes in your own country not in Africa

​@@Nkulu_Nkulu Africa is not a single homogenous group of people ! We are diverse , multicultural communities, making up the large society. We have the right to establish peaceful, well functioning communities that share common values, beliefs & traditions, that does not infringe on anyone else's rights, but they can co - exist peacefully ! Brilliant idea.

@@Nkulu_Nkulu he makes a very important point here that is not about whether you are white or black - it is about elites exploiting cheap labour. the ANC is doing it as we speak. the question is whether you are in favour of the elites exploiting the poor?

We can not force anyone to live with who they don't,it's their choice

@@lm_b5080 not no elites it’s white people exploiting blacks. Call it what it is, you already created a system that excluded black people from riches. You have garden boys who are older than your fathers and mothers but you call them boys. Whites have never wanted to coexist with others only want their own things

ANC live in the past, cowards, corrupt and racist creators🤷

Townships can be lifted up following an Orania blueprint. We just need leaders in the communities to start. I want to see the poor people in townships prosper.

​@@charlesdavel4455That would be something to behold. This country would flourish.

Please start. As a young man the future of your people rests on your shoulders.

When we carefully scrutinize the current government and (non/false) "democratic" system, we can clearly see that it is managed, driven, given direction from external impetus. Thus, the previous and current governments, pandered to external interests, and still does. Corporatism, where representation in local, provincial and especially national government levels, are owned. And the local puppets, of all colours and creeds, are allowed to eat at the expense of the very people they're are supposed to represent and resolve issue, provide services.... But they don't. And everyone know that they don't. That needs system change, and people able and willing to make their own choices, have real freedom, and most importantly, be willing and able to take responsibility for their choices.

As your project starts to take shape, we will fight for positions and sell-out and it will never materialize. I am sorry to discourage you.

Contact Belz Mbandla of the amaBheki. They have started already.

@shopekassie this is exactly the point. You couldn't discourage me even if you tried. We need to find our own people. The Orania guy mentioned that they had people who dropped off along the way when one could tell the interests were not aligned. It's a vision that could materialise.

@anitapretorius4124 Thanks for the direction. I suspect the surname is Mabandla. If memory serves, the Mabandlas are of royal birth, so they are probably doing something for their people. Certainly an interesting direction you're pointing me to.

​@homemail9653 where is Transkei?

He only does that to white people

I watchhed that too, i actually love Oranian concept. Our chiefs in our villages can do this

I’m also willing and ready but the sad reality is some of our people will have to be left behind …but again, we don’t need the entire black population to start. The willing fee is enough. Out of interest, are you permanently based in Asia?

Blessings, Neo 🙏🏽❤️

Most black people definitely do and try but can not do it alone. We need to change how we speak of eachother. How will the collective learn to reimagine if we just keep highligting the negative. They had help! They help eachother let's talk about encouraging this not this thing that you're writing.

We need to start some where, regardless how small we start. When we start we need to keep showing up.

Vusi is a great guy, I wish he would get people to listen to him in a broader sense, everybody would be better off.

Amen🙏

Jesus never said that its all a hear say!! By the way can we just work without wanting Jesus or God to do for us. Lazy bum blacks!! All they know is prayer

Amen

True

Nope Dubai is tourists place Orania is for beers only

​@@baneliswaaustin4851 beers? Ja you very smart ey

Orania is the polar opposite to Dubai. You've completely missed the point of what the people are trying to do in Orania.

Aren't they building Neom in Dubai?

Be proud - I do not understand Afrikaans so i disclaimer.