The People Vs. The Last of Us Part 2 - A Messy Story, Fan Outrage & A Very Naughty Dog (Review) 

The Last of Us Part II 4 million......

It goes on to receive one of the worst games of 2020.

They are going after things on the game that are false. The sjw hate is real, your fellow RU-vidrs have said it was forced, bad etc. And they hate it because you do play as a different hero. It never said on the tin that it was a game you play as person x.... Hell all the marketing showed clearly what was going to happen. They are right about 1 thing... The story.. The writing is new star wars movie bad. But all the trolls and bigots who gave it a 1 are wrong. But so are the 10 out of 10 critics. Game wise it's a 9 for sure. Story wise a 5. So let's call it a weak 7 or a strong 6 out of 10.

What about people not being able to return their day one copies and not being able to trade in games at GameStop all of a sudden?

THE LAST OF TRANS PART 2 🤢🤮 YOUR'RE A SHILL !!

Top ten anime plot twists

Exactly, that's why it's the greatest story ever.

@Chase Jordan exactly.

@Chase Jordan dunning kruger effect in action people!

@Ali Shabbiri People who Imply Others are Stupid are Usually Insecure About Their Own Intelligence lmao

It's this current cess pool society. Where the weak, misguided, heretical fools, avoid accountability, and reality by boxing anything that doesnt suit, or fit their agenda into one of two or three compartmentalized categories. This way they can never be criticized, be required to improve, or re think. It's a futile insufficient exercise designed so that they can refuse to acknowledge failure. It's a sad state of affairs corrupting the core of human beings.

They're trying to guilt trip us. Lol.

For real, I hated Abby and Owen too, so I guess I'm both homophobic and heterophobic lol

Ever since toxic leftist, cancel-culture took over. The mantra behind it is "Accept and praise our message or be condemned as a bigot, racist, or out-right villain." Sickening

Have any of you watched videos by the quartering or read the comments there? There’s thousands of people who hate the game because it features lgbt characters

John Royal 🤣🤣🤣

Too soon man :p

oof

I see what you did there.

Man I hate you for making me laugh at Joel’s death. But also, very clever.

Backwards to suggest lowering our expectaions to sort of kinda enjoy the game. Fuck Naughty Dicks

I went in and pretty much loved the game before I played it and I still was upset.

Just because it pisses you off doesn't make it bad. Perhaps it was a bit above your reading level.

Only if you've a closed mind :)

sanoichiro people can have different opinions and thoughts personally I hate the story of part 2 but adore the gameplay especially the rat king boss fight it’s so cool how they can make you feel so helpless and afraid during the whole thing uncertain when it will strike Part 1 was perfect in terms of story, gameplay, characters, character development and ending nothing will ever come close to how this game made me feel especially during the winter and escape the city chapters This is my opinion.

😂😂😂

This is honestly the first good golf joke I've read.

LMAO🤣🤣🤣

the memes are the best

Cringey.

All I'm smelling is bullshit and it's giving me hives!!!

How bout don’t speak for all fans because to be they did amazing and I’ve been in love with the last of us and the franchise since the first game came out

😤 I smell cap

We will never trust you again Neil!

I loved the first game and I was hearthbroken when I finished the second one. It's a very cruel game. It forces the player to make very difficult actions. Ultimately the game put me in very emocional state, and I loved it for that. Best game experience I've played ever.

Exactly. Totally unbelievable, turning her into Rambo and removing all of her character traits from the first game. All just done in order to fit a revenge story line and some sanctimonious bullshit that Neil and his team wanted to preach to the fans of the first game. You must have some high opinion of yourself to preach like that from your little holier than thou soapbox.

The hell.. people really was mad bout her sexuality 💀?

@@rael1999 Yeah... But at least Rambo you understood why he did what he did (Plus he's War hero and was mistreated). At least Rambo didn't pussy out the last second to kill the main villain. Yea, Rambo didn't killed Teasle but that's bcoz Colonel Trautman.

@@6ouiss no not really just people who call this mediocre narrative a masterpiece claim that, majority of people just hate the shallow story but people who love it, love it blindly and call anyone who hates it “bigots”

@@datiger39 No, the narrative of the first game was mediocre while it's sequel was just plain awful.

Facts

I am a female & I believe this is 100% accurate. Never have I been so emotionally exhausted, aggravated & disappointed with an ending of a video game in my life.

I’ve never had blue balls before... Until I finished tlou2

that is more or less what the first game was as well, but for saving the world

@@gabethyrubenstein7984but the first makes sense compared to the second

There was a sequel it was amazing

Know is was garbage

@Iain Steele it's full of damn potholes what do you mean lol

@@faiz8840 tell me

I enjoyed the game but the pacing is terrible

@@barackobama6858 Same. I enjoyed parts of it Okay. Some parts (especially Abby's part) were a slog to get through. @Faiz The first plot hole that comes to mind is: why did an army of infected suddenly show up outside Jackson?

@@barackobama6858 100% especially in the middle. However, in the 3rd act, it started to draw me in again.

I hate when games do that kind of thing. "Here's a choice where you don't really get a choice, and we're gonna make you feel bad for that choice!" Like, bitch maybe I would've done something different if you let me??? Edit: I would also like to add that video games tend to forget they're video games and try to be movies. If you wanted to make a game where it's basically a long, interactable cutscene might as well have made a movie.

Yeah guys but that is not how ND games works. And I get why. The Story of tlou woudn't be this impactful if the player had a choice. Because ND want you to feel the way they wrote the Story.

@@jordangarcia465 Especially coming from a game who wants to make you think about the ''cycle of violence'' Undertale did this better

@@sanelino3069 But instead of feeling something you feel nothing because you had no choice? big brain move then.

*shoots Wolves & skins them in front of Wolf Man* "Yeah? And? So? What?"

True.

Thanks for the tip. I aint touching this one!

I feel sorry for your wallet. What a waste of money.

Just pick up a better game. I don't know play Pokémon or something? I mean nobody gets mad playing Pokémon right? *remembers Whitney* On second thought just play Persona. 2-5 will wash that taste out of your mouth pretty quick, considering they take months to beat. Hell, if you just play 10 hours a week those games will last you roughly 3/4 of the year.

Same. I got a really bad afterbirth after finish this game.

And it doesn't make it bad.

I mean it kinda does make it bad. At the end of the day, video games are supposed to be fun and entertaining regardless of how dark and serious the story is. You can watch sad movies like Schindler's List and Green Mile and still be entertained by them. I don't really see the point of playing a video game that purposely makes you feel like a bad person for playing it. It's pretty manipulative.

Agreed

@@philly_sports1558 shut up lol, not every experience is supposed to be a good one. The game teaches you a lesson. That lesson is that an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind. And really the only way to really drive that point in is with a dark and depressing story.

@@itspossiblyvertigo1232 I saw what you did there with the lol bruh naw this game is bad dude

Dead space 2 eh? I see you’re a man of culture

@The Man vs PC The problem with the switch to Abby is basically completely down to her being made an unredeemable monster to the player almost immediately then having the game try to manipulate the players emotions afterwards.

Hmm

If kratos dies atleast the covered they ass with end of the first game since we know its prophecy. I wanted to say santa monica neva disappoints, but neitheir did ND till this game.

That's impossible.

Kratos dies and Atreus loses his identity and wants to be called MA'AM! 😂😂😂 Edit I know about Loki's questionable history did wanna say his name In case people didn't play the game.

well as long as Neil isn't working on it

if youve already watched the first one, how was it?

@JamesHLanier Please dont insult people like us whove played both games and still disliked the second one. A lot of people have written very comprehensive reasons as to why they dislike it, if you really want to understand i can link one of them to you

seems like you haven't even played the game

@@ashkhri I played it years back and it's great definitely worth playing :)

@@gautamg9175 I played it around the time it came out and you're right it was lovely

70% of a single department left over a period of 5 years due to crunch. One even said that the game was damn good. The crunch and work conditions are a serious problem, but don't misrepresent the struggle for these workers by claiming that the workers had issues with the story. That wasn't the case.

@@jameslanier2510 I think what the op is saying is that the majority of the staff were not the original developers and thus would have no qualms with butchering the characters.

@@ollehkacb The director of Part 2 literally created the characters.

​@@jameslanier2510 he was co director of the first. The other director left for the second leaving Neil druckman free reign to live his own fan fiction

Hahah exactly. Now we can tell who were the ones responsible for the great game the first one was.

It has. You were even watching a video about it.

@JamesHLanier gameplay yes. Graphics yes. Story and writing no.

Conan this is not canon to me. You have heard of headcanon right?

JamesHLanier no your wrong this Fanfiction sequel game is not superior because this so called “story” is dogshit.

@@tuckerjohnston1844 Headcanon is the only canon that counts.

Druckmann was not Manny. Druckmann was on a collectible card. I forget the actor for Manny by the guy who voiced him did motion capture on his face for the game. Manny is completely modeled after someone else. Albeit someone that does look very similar to Druckmann lol

@@wisewolfds Isn't Manny supposed to be the scenarist's self-insert ?

@@CyberChrist Manny looks exactly like Alejandro Edda, the actor who did mocap and voiceovers for that character. Druckmann has nothing to do with this character.

@@GOffensive yes "its all coincidence" i gonna edit, i trought the sarcasm was so obvious that would not need anything... well....

Manny may not have been his self-insert, but im sure we can all agree that Druckmann was metaphorically Manny in that scene.

THATS VERY PERCEPTIVE!

hate is for those who don't understand it...

@@stifito love is for those easily enchanted by ostensible substance.

@@stifito It's just a bad story

Nobody cares about it even now with present circumstances ....... and no amount of fake awards will convince me otherwise ..... the users score and number of angry reviews speak for themselves

Yeah that would be horrible. Thank God Druckmann isn't stupid enough to do any of those things..

Why do some people in the gaming community think they have a better grasp on the story than the writers themselves? Neil Druckmann wrote the first game as well. If you don't like it, fine, but it's ridiculous to think you love the game more than they do and wanted it to succeed more than they do.

@@d.riddle2965 Who said that? It's not a matter of people thinking they have a better grasp on the story than the writer's and claiming they love the game more than them. It's the people who play the game calling out the story for bad writing and lashing out because they waited 7 years to be disappointed. When a game jumps from a universal 10/10 to a whopping 4/10 then it's clear there's something wrong with it on a fundamental level. I played the game myself and I will admit the gameplay itself is enjoyable. Ignoring the story the gameplay would be a 6/10. But the story..

@@d.riddle2965 How dare people paying for a product have an opinion that differs from their creator on said product? In fact, people should spend everything they own on every game on the market that have their creators claiming it's a good game!

@@DorthLous Typical response, though I'm not seeing where I criticized people from having an opinion. Pretty sure that if you took off the hate goggles for two seconds, you would've clearly read in my comment that it's completely natural for people not to like a story. It's about people who think they know better than the creator. But you know... go on.

in the first couple of hours of the game....and spitting on his corpse...

"No OnE lOvEs ThEsE cHaRaCtErS mOrE tHaN wE dO" he said, while killing the most loved character in the game with unnecessary brutal methods.

You assume these people are interested in honest debate and an exchange of opinions. They aren't.

a lot of the comments i see on youtube shitting on people for shitting on the game are payed libtards doing their job of spreading their agenda by defending a game that was meant to be a breakthrough in lgbt and feminism storytelling its why i see the same 2 or 3 arguments defending it compared to the dozens ive seen of people who dislike the game id love to genuinly be able to prove what im saying except for the ridicilously obvious patterns they follow but i sadly cant not saying everybody who defends the game is like that but theres tons of people who say the same copypasta all the time about what a masterpiece this game is and you simply do not get it because youre dumb and blinded by nostalgia and bias and whatever else they said so far

In Instagram, lots of "paid reviewer" said the game is masterpiece

Everyone’s defence of the story isn’t like that, actually. Seems like you didn’t look very hard, or you’re just trying to misrepresent how people who liked the story act.

@@RyanYeehaw Huge surprise that. I'm still looking for a video with more than one or two coherent critical points, while rest being misrepresenting or misunderstanding the story.

PREACH SISTER. They're using the LGBT characters/elements as a SHIELD for the bad writing/terrible story. It's fucking offensive.

It is mostly coming from someone too dense to understand the story.

@@GOffensive Wow, you sure got her.

It also kinda got political

@@GOffensive There we go insulting again when we don't have a good point huh

"We dont use the word "fun" in our games." Niel Cuckman.

At least Spec Ops was clever about it.

​@@Lord_Numpty Spec Ops had a beautifully paced very cohesive story with good characters and clear motivations. I wouldn't call that game fun. However, for people who like storytelling games it's imo a must play. Based on Heart of Darkness and perfectly executed. It really captures the theme of the book. In fact another game (which still is one of my personal favourites) is the "love it or hate it" Far Cry 2. Also based on Heart Of Darkness. Way less heavy on story. It's there and imo it works perfectly. A simple modern story of a mercenary hired to kill an armsdealer who is supplying bot sides of a conflict. You realize throughout the game you've more in common with him than you thought at first. The strength of that game isn't necessarily the story itself but the actions you do and how spontaneous it brings over its theme. Sneak up on a camp and shoot someone in the chest only to hear him moan of pain while one of his comrades is trying to comfort him. Weapons breaking down in the middle of a fight (like the sandstorm moments in Spec Ops meant to convey a a harsh conditions). Having buddies who can die trying to help you (even putting a bullet in them yourself to relieve them from their pain). Healing animations that are extremely graphic (same as some of the graphic wounds you can cause on enemies in Spec Ops),... Unfortunately the rest of the Far Cry series went way more in your face with its story and left out a lot of that narrative depth (through actions) in its world. Too on the nose and since they are open world games, suffer too much from inconsistent pacing. As for The Last Of Us games. I can't really say much about it, since I've never played either of them. But the thing is with these types of games you can do 2 things. Either go the route of Spec Ops in a linear game and make sure the characters, the story and the pacing are perfect. Or in the case of an open world game make something where your actions tell a story and convey a theme. Pacing is going to be an issue anyway. So make the player feel lik they are the character who is making certain decissions. Now that last one can't be done in The Last Of Us obviously. But in that case plot holes, mismatching motivations etc. are going to make people upset. I feel like that has happened here. Direct sequels with these types of games are really dangerous to keep narrative consistency.

If a Video Game makes you feel bad for playing it, thats not a "video game", its a "tool" designed in such a way to condition you to a certain way of thinking. A true "video game" will always be "Fun". And if its not Fun its not worth playing.

@@RaikenXion I disagree with that. A game needs to be compelling. And that doesn't necessarily mean it needs to be fun in the traditional sense. If a game is compelling you to continue (whether it's the story, difficulty,...) then it doesn't necessarily needs to be fun. "Fun" is kind of a vague word tbh. Do movies, music and books also need to be fun to be compelling? At that point we would lose a lot of possibilities in terms storrytelling, interaction possibilities, etc. The fact that games can amplify an emotional experience (thanks to the level of interaction) is what makes this medium so powerful. We wouldn't have great games like "This War Of Mine", "Brothers: A Tale Of Two Sons", "Spec Ops The Line", "Papers Please" and many others. Unique experiences that are compelling but not necessarily fun in a traditional way.

Keep the analogies coming. So many does not even fathom how bad this 'StOrY' is, until one analogy plucked their heartstrings without their two lost fingers.

stupid analogy

Imagine if Biff Tannon hunts down Marty and the Doc, the movie is from his perspective.

my analogy is... they really wanted to make Negan and crushing head scene, but failed

Imagine if Ned Stark died in...oh wait. I can use analogies too.

Got straight Dutch vibes from druckmann

False marketing huh, means that they're desperate to make us buy the game

@@Rei-bg3rf Neil Druckmann gaslights Troy Baker and ashley, he is a despicable human narcissist.

@@Rei-bg3rf unfortunately Neil Drunkmann has ALOT of friends in Industry and Games Academia that is turning a blind eye to his Anti narrative agenda.

4:17 Exactly "The Last of Us" not part 2

Lina Saha lol cause part 2 is not a part of TLOU

@@MrSoBitchy dito. no more words needed. tlou2 is not in the lore of the franchise.

Right !! Neil Druckman and even Troy Baker were trying so hard to defend the game and act like they did right by the fans. Not at all.

@@ylvam.3917 SJW fiction.

Sounds very much like Terminator Dark Fate. Forget Dark Fate and stay with Terminator 2 😉

BRO! I knew TLOU was an amazing game but I never saw it. Just like Game of Thrones, just like Breaking Bad I've hopped on it a good bit after it finished (idk why, im lazy and still play skyrim/minecraft a lot) And I feel so secured playing TLOU right now not knowing or experiencing Part 2 personally at all. feelgudman

@@dm3402 take it from pretty much anyone who ACTUALLY loves the first game, the second one is not worth the money. Complete disappointment in the story all around. TLOU is my all time favorite game. Part 2 was the biggest let down ever

@@dm3402 i'll call a doctor for you.

You're crazy. Part 2 does EVERYTHING bigger and better than the 1st one.

Did he really say that?

Max Dirks Not verbally, but we all know he must have thought it, since he ACTUALLY did it.

If you only see shock value, I’m sorry for you

Laurel Oneiros if you don’t see the poorly misconstrued “shock value”, I feel sorry for you.

We love Sam and his Brother in TLOU Pt. 1 and yet Sam dies horribly and his brother commits suicide seconds after killing him. Through the same scope that's just shock for you and develops nothing for the story, nothing advances here, worse, the people we spent a few hours bonding with get erased all of the sudden. We also love the protagonists and when one of them dies we could see only shock... or the match that starts a fire (and later develops into more important concepts when we meet more characters). Going back to Sam and his brother, they're more than shock, they're a reflection of our protagonists and what would happen to them if one of them dies, the same way they could be only shock for the game they could also serve a purpose. Also, people seem to be angry at the way Jo el dies, as if he was supposed to die in an heroic or peaceful way, or not die at all, why? Loving someone doesn't make them immoral, and in such bleak and cruel world why are they supposed to die in a respetable or even important way? why? Because they're videogame characters? Doesn't make sense

Sounds like Kathleen Kennedy.

@@comicsans1689 sounds like my mom telling me she won't beat my ass if I say the truth but does it anyways

Elvis Matilde same

@@elvismatilde6630 relatable....

Aragorn Elessar take your bigotry elsewhere

all this could have been solved with the endgame having 2 endings, we would decide if we were going to forgive Abby or not. only one choice and world would be better. and IF there is tlou3 with Ellie, they might just not mention that ending and the sequel would be the ending we chose.

And they also did everything they could to make you hate her. Just because they showed you Abby’s perspective doesn’t mean they are trying to tell you “Abby good and Ellie bad”. If they wanted to make Abby the good guy they wouldn’t have made her a ruthless killer. When Yara calls Abby a good person, that’s not the game telling you, it’s just Yara telling you because the only context Yara had of Abby was her saving people. The point is that both Abby and Ellie become awful people, yet both still have a glimmer of hope inside of them.

you haven't played it have u.. 🥴

Have you played it start to finish?

@@StayFractalesque You don't have to play it to know how shit it is.

@@aimanrizal97 Yes you do? I don't like it either before you start reeeeing, but that judgement came from my own experience with the game, not some smartass on the internet.

Nope don’t have to play to know the plot, story, characters etc. All of which can be gained through journalists, reviews and play throughs. Since when do you HAVE to play a game to have an opinion about it?

Funny you mention that because one of the streamers I watch was actually featured in Naughty Dog's tweet that had influencers reacting to the reveal. Watching him play, you could tell he wasn't fucking with the game at all.

I was impressed with the reveal and watch it multiple times but this was a huge mistake and I wished this wasn't the story at all.

Most Likely not. Those people probably played the game like me, and I absolutely loved it. Blows the first one out of the park.

TLOU2 is a vastly better game than the first. It’s SO Much more fun to play. All you whiny idiots and it’s STILL the fastest selling PS4 exclusive in history.

There is a petition going on for a "remake" of TLOU2.

And if you notice in that clip after agreeing to flank the guy runs out into the open straight into players face

Yeah the A.I's are retarded in TLOU2

"Hey guys im going to stick my head out in the open to see if i can see the enemy"

Yeah people said the AI is excellent and intelligent, but what I see the human AI is quite average and dumb, sometimes they just rush in front of you like a clicker lol, doesn't really take cover and shoot when they have a firearms, and sometimes their reaction is quite retarted, noticeable with the "alert" sound when you expose purposely in front of them, actually I think they are worse than the 1rst one lol

The original characters were his own creations too, so that doesn't make much sense.

@@krasmasov6852 It does, He wanted a darker revenge story in the first game but was turned down. So he twisted the sequel to match his original vision. He also tried to do it in uncharted with drake but was also turned down. Neil is pretty edgy and no one was standing in his way with tlou2.

Jay, why are you commenting on every single comment thread. Get 👏🏼 A 👏🏼 Life👏🏼

It’s really unfortunate the story was trash. I really wanted to love this sequel, but I couldn’t 😕

@@Laughy-Flaaffy me too buddy...me too

@@RRC6490 why are you caring so much? Get some chill

It strikes conversation. Why not

Lina Saha conversation about how horrible and a waste of money your game is.....

trying to be “revolutionary” is so stupid

The problem is that he's now criticizing everyone who's saying they passionately hate it.

I take it you're upset bc the people who worked really hard on this game created what they wanted make instead of what you, the individual, wanted?

I wouldn't be surprised

I'm Japanese.. Please explain what sitting like Indian style is lol

@@lunamaria1048 sitting cross-cross apple sauce

@@lunamaria1048 He means Turkish style. But seriously it means cross-legged, like sitting on the floor. Internet tells me ''agura'' is a Japanese term for this.

@@kacperwoch4368 Its a form of yoga. Many thousand years earlier, Agastya Muni was the person that spread this style of sitting in indian subcontinent. And later it did spread to all kinds of places.

A lot of people like the game so I think a part 3 it will do just fine.

@@oisinosborne4154 false most people don't like it and the new protagonist and how they lied about the story and silenced anyone who didn't agree with it being a perfect score... This is what monsters with too much money do and druckman is lying about money not mattering when he's using every dirty trick to get the most he can

robert shorts I agree with you, and I know that in my heart I’ll never buy another game from ND that is lead by Neil but unfortunately with a game of this size, I think TLOU3 will do good no matter what. To many people will want to know where they lead this shit show and it will most likely have good sales regardless of how shitty this game was. And the worst part? Fanboys of TLOU2 will use the sales argument as a way to justify TLOU2 being good even though the prime reason TLOU2 was bought was off of the love of the first game. Hope this comment made sense I kinda rambled at the end it’s 5AM lol

Definitely not from me...after this, I'm out.

@@oisinosborne4154 a lot of retarded people

It's so stupid and an obvious sequel hook.

Imagine if they made you play as Hitler or a Nazi for half of the game while committing some atrocities.

"i forgive you"

You can’t compare hitler with Abby 😂😂😂

@@immunglobuling8777 I mean, theyre both members of militant organizations/governments

That's not why she put the guitar away.

I was thinking about the same thing after beating the game. What a bunch of hypocrites. Everybody struggling with depression should avoid this game at any cost.

@@SydBarker I had depression when I met TLOU 1 and I fell in love with the game. It's not about having it or being a hypocrite. TLOU 2 "gave me" depression not because of its violence or very sad events, but because of how stupid and disappointing the whole story is - from technical point of view. Mostly, how the whole "revenge tour" seems for me so pointless from the very beginning. It "gave me" depression because of how it buthered the whole legacy of the first game.

Lol savage but true 😂😂😂😂😂👍😩.

There isn't a plan for any dlc apparently

Lol this didn't age well no dlc for tlou2

@@AnimeGamer501st I personally love the game but I'm one in the few who do haha I respect everyone's opinions tho, we're all entitled to one

You wont. But that would certainly be interesting lol.

@@johnathanera5863 I dont think he means like a down fall of cyber punk thing but a documentary style video for it.

I think that might be much harder considering how much longer cyberpunk probably is going to be.

Already in the plans.

In our polish gaming media after playing few hours few days ago they said cdr has to struggle with all kinds of expectations and critique will be on premiere for sure because no matter what they do, some people will be disappointed. But they also said few not so good things about the game, that you can feel lack of experience in some mechanics (like car driving) that translates to kind of failed/not really well aspects of the game There were few things they said they are a little disappointed about. But at the same time they were telling a lot of good things about the others ;)

Same. And I have the RU-vid streaming community to thank for it.

One very significant difference between TLOU2 and TLJ is how they were received by their fans. The vast majority of Star Wars fans either dislike the Sequels or despise them enough to where they’d rather pretend they never existed. Most of them clearly saw straight through the bs of the Sequel trilogy and recognized how it severely tarnished the previous trilogies that came before it. On the other hand, it’s personally both sad and fascinating at the amount of people who genuinely praise TLOU2’s story and go as far as calling it a “masterpiece”. It’s even more impressive that such a badly written story I consider to be no different than a fossilized ashy swirl of dog dookie…received GOTY (despite upsetting and splitting a significant portion of the fan base), Best Narrative (despite having one of the most negatively controversial stories in recent gaming history), and Best Game Direction (despite the story being corroded by Neil Druckmann and Haley Gross as well as Naughty Dog receiving a negative spotlight that revealed their unhealthy crunch time and other bs that happen behind the scenes). Even in 2022, there are people who seriously praise that game’s pathetic story. I’m sorry but personally those people most likely have never encountered a genuinely good film or book. Iconic films like The Revenant (2017) did what TLOU2 attempted to do 100x better and successfully too.

best review ive read, true words.

graphics: 10/10 Gameplay: 8/10 Music: 8/10 Story: 9/10 Personally.

Is that a micro aggression

Too true

I just mainly hated Abby and still do. Druckmann should study A2 from Nier: Automata to see how this character should have been done.

Write a hateable character, don't make yourself a hateable writer.

I feel you man.

@@defaulted9485 i felt this with Wonder Woman in Injustice 2, they wrote her in a way fans would hate her guts

@@AKSBSU I lost interest when you had to play abby for hours

Atomic Cracker finished today, to game is a masterpiece !

@@Picollus1 Just like your grammar

DogOfHades Hahah, poor guy didn’t see it coming!

I'd be happier if the leaks were false and we actually got a good story :(

Same with the way the world is right now, I want to buy a game I guarantee I will enjoy, not one where it's a fifty fifty chance I'll want a refund after, but that's why I'm betting on Ghost of Tshushima, looks good, looks fun, and it'll ocupy me until cyberpunk

I agree. Nice visuals, average gameplay, and a below-average storyline filled with character inconsistencies and plot holes. I'm not sure how that translates to being the best game ever made.

@@MrPimpshrimp247 gaming journalists are just out of touch with reality

@@GrievousReborn also paid *Cough*

The graphics weren't all that good, some parts of the game you can clearly see objects popping up from a distance, even the grass where the charcter hides disappeared a few feets away leaving a low polygon void. I even had a plant appearing out of nowhere 5meters away from the character. There quite a number of bugs and the AI has some questionable actions at times (like Dina having trouble shooting an infected when he's literally standing right next to her and pushing her to the side).

It was definitely a "...wait, why?" moment.

Exactly. Jesus, it was horrifying.

Biniam Gaming now I’m scared for Santa Monica games

Prahlad NatusVincere Kunalan Yeah it’s scary seeing Neil say he and Cory have a bromance

You... returned The Last Of Us 1?

Dutch Van Der Linde Part 2

Well, did you ever get 2?

How the hell do game companies KEEP DOING THIS!?

@@Pyxis10 We stupidly keep paying them.........

The second game sucks because of two things: bad story-telling and the destruction of everything we cared about in the first game. Had TLOU2 been a revenge story in a new universe and they had done better telling the story, I bet most people would like it. They'd have to hard-fix the damn story, though.

in terms of storytelling and not gameplay and graphics right?

@@VoyagerVentures Yes, in terms of storytelling. Gameplay is generally the same as the first one with shallow improvements. Graphics are gorgeous.

BlazingFastPulse 123 of course, who the hell would not like this masterpiece of an eye candy?

@@f.b.lagent1113 Everyone who has half a brain and an eye towards literary criticism. lol

Killing off characters doesn’t mean that you don’t love and respect them. Killing them off in lackluster ways, where there’s no concise buildup, and where you have to have the MC make out of character comments beforehand in order to get them killed is not loving nor respecting your character.

@@katie5998 i agree that the way it went down was a little....trite? idk, seemed like the worst part of the writing in the game i will agree. @Matt, i think if they wanted another Uncharted series they would have dragged it out. Instead they ended it and showed you the consequences of Joels actions from the first game, and then switched perspectives so you could understand why the "antagonist" did it.

Agree, 6/10 for anyone giving it an honest, unbiased review.

@@daisytheduck9292 0/10 for a story game with ass story. But nice try clown.

Couldn’t agree more kinny

your ow opinion, my opinion, the games well polished, story is the best in the industry right now, stealth is nothing we havent seen, combat is brutal and feels like a fight for survival every time.

@@sosig8332 best story? You probably didn't play the first one. This one was riddled with plot armor and plot holes. Contradicting characters and manipulative story paths that were in place to either shock you or make you empathize with the villain. Bruh.

Yea because of the hype from the first one bro. Let’s see how good the game sells after a few months . The first game sold what 14 millions copy’s? I don’t see this one even going past 6 million

JamesHLanier I agree

They tried to cram too many things in there. Joel's death, Ellie's revenge and her relationship with Dina, Abby's redemption, Yara and Lev, the WLF/Seraphite conflict. And those damn flasbacks that constantly kill the pacing certainly don't help. It was an ambitious attempt but they failed to pull it off.

At least Byleth being in Smash wasn't a blatant lie like Naughty Dog did with this game's advertising.

ty Wins yeah but do the actors though ?

Griffith did nothing wrong

It would so awful if it’s done that way:(

Oh no

I don't think he forgive him per se, it's just that he had more important things to do

This hurts so much more now

Yup saw that live on my twitter feed.

*WhaT a tWisT*

Neil the Hypocrite

Neil is Randy Hickey in In My Name is Earl, when Randy develops a crush on the cat lady but is allergic to cats, and Earl tries to talk sense into him. It isn't pretty. The only difference is, Randy never told a story as stupid as Neil tells in TLOU2.

@@megajennybenny as opposed to the majority who have legit criticisms of the game, those few people that you're talking about don't really matter.

Not quite, cause people have come to know and love bowser and he's an already established character. It would more like they kill mario, you play as Luigi, and then they bring in an entirely new and foreign character who has a tumultuous history with the Bros. that the creators pulled out their "warp-pipes.

But mario killed bowser's dad..& bowser got revenge on mario. . Luigi is weak.. so that's why bowser its beating the shit out of Luigi lol

But fans will say. We love mario. He cant die.. heroes need to survive always.... but this game went into reality for a second.. . Just cause his main character Doesnt mean he will be immortal..

@@carrymywill Yes but that kinda ruins the point of a game called super mario brothers doesnt it?

I would play this lol

there is no wrong or right in this game at all, just people who have their own point of view on the situation sorry for my English

Why do they "think they're always right"?... I'm honestly confused... the game is very morally ambiguous.

@@_Yohanan that's very true, but Joel's decision has been made; he moves on with it.

Jokeré i think that’s the point of an ambiguous story of moral.

I agree with you, it shows how an apocalypse changes people of all backgrounds to think they are in the right or what they convince themself to do for self preservation.

Lil more than half it feels like

yep that's why this game is called "You lied to us"

Pretty sure he was talking about the 1st game

@@harrynguyen2503 he was talking about the first game. These people dont listen

@@ReckSaber3664 more specifically they only like to listen to what they wanna hear

Hello there

Game time started.

@@mercenarygundam1487 General Kenobi!

CelestialFalkon You are a bold one

You've obviously never seen a Plinkett review

Yes that’s exactly what i had been thinking of

❤

Or John Marston at the end of RDR2: "Hey Micah, I know you betrayed my friend Arthur and I have murdered dozens of people to get to you. But now I've suddenly realized that senseless violence and revenge are bad."

Yeah because Kratos likewise was having trembling hands and other symptoms of disgust over his own actions.

@@Pokerking4128 huh?

Lmaooo

And a side plot with Miss Man wanting her steroids back.

Lmao

LMAOO💀 I’m Ethiopian and I laughed my balls off. That plot would still be better than what we got in part 2

And he`ll be a trans, lesbian, bi, tri gendered Vegan, who thinks there are too many white males running things.

pret much

@Hfghbb Jggv way better

At least I liked a bit micah, *but I hate Abby so much*

@@firepunchman I'm curious how you found even one redeemable quality about Micah, lol.

Hfghbb Jggv her personality is reminiscent of a soggy bread roll

Cyberpunk 2077, Fallout 76. Atom heart, I don't think it's going to be bad, but my expectations are low (I have learned my lesson).

@@hollowman9410 that aged well

Same for tv show reboots and remakes

Bro I feel you there I literally can't get excited for new games anymore because I'm always expecting the worst by these big money hungry companies. The only games thatre actually good to play are passion project games that have just a couple of creators.

@@hollowman9410 holy shit this aged well 😭💀

You are right Mixi, Mixi!! The story father and daughter was so amazing in the original TLOU....That's the way it should have been in the sequel.......But instead players are forced to play with Abby!

@@vr-vik5660 I really enjoyed playing as abby. Speak for yourself

@The Bounty Hunters people like you are the reason the world is a dark place

@@solofade7524 Congratulations mate, good for you.....Abby will continue being an awful character for the ages to come...!!

@@vr-vik5660 I enjoyed smashing people as Abby. I couldnt care less for anyone in the game. I wish the cutscenes where skipable it would have made the game better.

Could not agree more

But the world of The Last of Us has never been about 'heroes and villains' the world is about anti-heroes and morality. To me it is very reminiscent of Neo-Westerns like 'Hell or High Water' and 'No Country for Old Men' TLOU2 takes tropes from the genre and implements them into the game. For example the 'Kick the Dog' trope which is seen in westerns in order for the audience to distinguish the villain. They did this in RDR2 with Micah and Cain (Jack Marston's dog) which Micah abuses and literally kicks. This is meant to foreshadow that Micah was a villain. In Neo-Westerns this trope is meant to demonstrate that someone is an anti-hero whos morals are grey. I actually enjoyed Abby as a character too but not at the start. I think when Lev and Yara were introduced I began to get more interested in her story. I agree that there is stuff wrong with the game and genuine criticisms such as the pacing of the story, etc. But you cannot deny that there is also a shit load of people hating on it because there are LGBT characters in the game. I read a shit tone of reviews on meta critic and a lot of them called the game SJW garbage for doing that.

@Iain Steele I've seen the rebuttal. Its pathetic lol. The game is shit. Deal with it.

@@tierk4328 Good luck justifying killing your own saviour.

That is why uncharted 4 was already trash because the ghew Druckmann was responsible

The only way ND can recover some trust is with both Amy Hennig and Bruce Straley returning. Sadly I don't really think that's possible.

@@assman7218 AND neil cuckmann being fired for this shitshow

AMEN

They seriously, SERIOUSLY fucked us on this

im sure he really cares about the highly vocal minority of butthurt little sheep who hated the story because they didnt get a rehash of the first game. hes the best writer in the industry, he doesnt care about what you think of his game. he told the story he wanted to tell, that all that matters. if you dont like it then go cry somewhere else

"Never interupt your enemy when they're making a mistake." Napolean

"Prepare for war if you want peace." - Mickey Mouse.

"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take . " -ᵂᵃʸⁿᵉ ᴳʳᵉᵗᶻᵏʸ -Michael Scott

"quoting famous people alone wont be enough to heal the world from this SJW pandemic" me

yudhi adhyatmiko siswono That wouldn’t surprise me

Sucks to be you

BeyondCashed I know so many butt hurt people about a video game lmao. TLOU2 was phenomenal.

@@bimmerguy9274 Well that's your opinion. I personally think it was dog shit. Just my experience.

I went in completely spoiler free, and the game lost me when Abby got Raw Dogged from the back from a character they were shoving down our throats to like

You trusting a company is where you made your mistake.

Haha too true.

"Flashback"

Well basically having next gen graphics is pretty amazing, as well as amazing sound design. The story on the other hand........

and mechanics, and upgrades, and perks, and enemy types. Story sucked, sure. But yeah. Just sayin.

Knowledge, Well, replay the og and then play the 2nd, the combat felt much clunkier than the 1st.

Very true, hopefully more games adopt that style of accessibility.

Gameplay: pretty much exactly the same Graphics: Great improvement Sound: Pretty solid Story: ...Punishingly lazy and nonsensical to the point where merely having to suffer through the plot makes you just reinstall the original and play that instead.

Probably an artifact from the previous devs before they left.

@@megajennybenny why would you set out to make a game you know the fanbase will hate to begin with?

Exactly. They wanted to make a game the fans hated, they achieved that frankly moronic goal. Pre-orders ensured rapid initial sales but actual gamer reviews will kill follow on sales and any possibility of a third game because having been lied to and deceived so contemptuously, no-one will pre-order a third game and Druckman would have to admit he was wrong. That kind of fevered ego will never do that.

Base on a few gaming journalist who were honest and suffered for it by the company they worked for. It's very clearl that many of the positives were threatened. Not physically but mostly because of FOMO. the fear of being black listed and not getting a game review needing to wait for the games to be out for everyone. It's first come, first serve and people will do anything to stay ahead.

I am a normal gamer and fan of the first game and I love part 2. Not afraid to defend it either looking for valid criticism but so much I’ve seen has come off as hollow.

@@MGrabowski70 I'm actually a huge fan of the first game, so it's sad to hear how divisive the second one is. And funny thing with the "come off as hollow" comment, that's how I feel with all of the reviews that raved about the game prior to release. Most of them have done a poor job to explain how the game could be a masterpiece and deliberately avoid talking about the game's narrative.

@@UsonoHoushi Yeah I get the impression that this is one of those games where reviewers for gaming websites have to give it a positive score, or end up being ridiculed or blacklisted as a result. A perfect example I can think of is the game "Gone Home". Reviewers were put into a tough spot where they kinda had to rave about it because it addressed LGBT issues and saying anything critical about the game itself could be taken the wrong way. However when players got their hands on it, they called it a "walking simulator" in a derogatory manner.

@@MGrabowski70 You can't be looking very hard given there are plenty of youtube videos out there articulating at length and in detail people many issues with the games narrative both in terms of structure, characterisation and plot.

Right? Coming after saying shit like "we know people loved the first one and we want to do right by them". Its pretty clear they either can't write worth shit or they never cared about fans of the first to begin with.

If knowing about the lore before this game makes the next game less enjoyable maybe there's a problem with it.

@@spreadwuvokay I loved Part 2. But maybe that might be, because I never played or fully watched Part 1. I just find Part 2 is a masterpeace for it's own.

T. Haenssgen You’re an idiot.

@@filmnationstudios389 He has the right to have his opinion tho, actually idk why people hate tlou 2, most of the haters are blinded by the most famous people that streamed the game and didnt like the game.

And you got great graphics and a great story here. Unless you are too stupid to understand it that is.

@@GOffensive yeah, this game is amazing, some people are too stupid or brainwashed by pathetic stories these days, everyone wanted to feel right instead of realising that they're wrong. Thats whats happening with this, people want a nice little fairy tale. This story is about revenge, and how it destroys people.

@@GOffensive Compared to the first one it is shit

@@sosig8332 It's not the worst thing ever but compared to the first one it is pretty shitty

Sosig Ah yes, a game that wants me to enjoy myself while I kill people, only to remind me at the last second that killing and revenge is wrong. I feel so enlightened. I’ll be sure to feel absolutely miserable next time I play it to stay true to it’s message. Because that’s why people consume entertainment; to be patronized and feel miserable!

Or they knew they would challenge hoe you felt about characters in the game. They said that people are gonna be mixed about this game wayyy before troy said that. It wasn't out of fear that they said that. They said it because it's the story they wanted to make. That wanted to. Lets say fill in the paintings that are the characters in the game even deeper than before. You have every right to be skeptical but to say its because their game was gonna flop and they knew it is an unbelievable reach.

I disagree with that statement. Telling people to have an open mind can be a very important statement. We've become so used to things going our way and stories being practically written for us. I think we NEED to be more open minded. And more accepting to the fact that there are things in life that arent going to go our way and aren't fair. Its real. And its ballsy. I respect that.

@@nickrelax1 I disagree that that's an unbelievable reach, the director stated himself that he contemplated the risk of even making a sequel to his highly successful first game because of the possibility of it being poorly received by fans. And even said he also shared fans worries in regards to writing a sequel and making a mistake. It's clearly from a place of fear and i'm not necessarily faulting him for that. If I happened to make a critically acclaimed story and had to face the challenge of writing a sequel to it I would be absolutely terrified. But them constantly stating in retrospect that it will divide people and they need to be open minded completely indicates to me that they themselves were not secure in what they produced. Also I never stated it would flop, it's a massive franchise and would likely have sold very well regardless of if people dislike it or not.

@@Zaixven the open minded aspect is what I mean they knew jow the story was going to affect people and how they would feel towards it because they feel the same way. Its just saying prepare to not have everything be going your way. In which a lot of people didnt want to even do that. I red the comment above and they make a good point that i thought previously. Imagine every game has a story that goes exactly the way you want it and every character you hate dies violently and every character you love lives for eternity. It gets boring but it's what you want. For people that expect to change that kind of thing they are like we are experimenting with something different than what you are used to so keep an open mind.

​@@nickrelax1 Shocking unexpected death is not new in any way to storytelling. They themselves used it in the opening of the first game with Joel's daughter. The difference is that in the first game it was executed better. Joel's death as I mentioned earlier is not an issue, how he died is. The disconnection is poor writing, not the concept of what they wanted to do. When you outline a story and say, "How do we get this character where he needs to be to kill him off?" you have to consider what kind of death you want that character to have. If you have to compromise a character's previously established qualities to make them do something to fit the story, you have failed.

True but there is no comparison because last of us 2 is just bad at telling a story

don't forget Kratos

@@jacksonmay153 God Of War did it way better than this sorry excuse for a sequel

Never seen it, still agree.

Hey Arthur

That’s what bugs me most about the game. Personally I though the game was neither terrible nor a masterpiece, it’s just somewhere in the middle. But hearing about how much the employees hated working on the game, but were forced to keep going pissed me off more than the game.

I give it a 4.9/10

@your face reminds me when I stepped on a burrito 3 then this would have been a great opportunity to tell us what DID happen then.

Did he really?

Tlou 1 is aletas going to be the best since the 2 is really shit

Yeah and the shock tactic it did not work.....not on the last of us part two....it did not work

Thank god that’s not what happened to my boy Nate, the PSP uncharted game is the only game you can play here on site and the thousands of people would be sad to see Nate die

i feel like the people that hated this game did forget the first game, how it ended.

Jordan C you’re in all these comments defending the game huh? Care to explain why? I’d like to put you on the spot like you have done to others. Go ahead, enlighten us all as to why this game deserves a better response from the community

@@zionsimanian9310 It's been a year bro I don't think he coming lmao

were*

@@jordanc587 we’re waiting…

That’s a damn lie

@@voidziqr oh no i dont know which side you on

Mr. Cactuar sorry tlou2 is the most basic plot ever, dont get it twisted

Japan hates the Game and the returns are at 80% lol

lol the ending of last of us 1 was taken straight from a movie called the road with vigo mortneson

I’ll probably buy it on sale during Black Friday, but yeah I’m not gonna spend 60 bucks on it

@@Stretch501st Nah..look at some older games man

@@Stretch501st Buy it used. None of the money will go to ND, only to the store, and it will be cheaper

Good job man! Even without your money TLOUS2 is the fastest selling first party PS4 game in history. Whiny idiot.

So... You formed your opinion without having played the game..? Okay.