If you want a better idea of the movie's origins and why it's so good, it's actually an adaptation of a fantastic manga called All You Need is Kill. It's only 2 volumes long, but it's just as if not even better than edge of Tomorrow, definitely a lot more grim and depressing being more of a tragedy. Also on the topic of the mimics, it's worth it to see what the original versions looked like, which I can best describe as giant spheres with gaping Maws filled with square stone teeth that make it hard to tell if it's mineral or organic or something else. And instead of moving with flowing tendrils, they equally as unpredictably move by generating spikes which they also use to horrifying effect as weapons, lots of people getting scewered from multiple angles all at once.
@@Opalwinter not quite, when I say spheres I mean they look more like pitch black balls with mineral blocks for teeth that split them across the middle, think more like ferrous dust from hell. They move basically the same as the movie ones, but with spices rather than tendrils and there really isn't even a clear face outside of where the maw is it's most toothy.
honestly, Edge of Tomorrow SLAPS when it comes to making the viewer learn things alongside the main character. as you said, at the start, you are all confused, quick cuts everywhere nothing feels consistent, but by the end, you basically know what's up, and are ready to face it with Tom Cruise by your side. one of my favourite sci-fi flicks ever.
Bro got confused by the classic disorientation technique of a film I'm a SEASONED veteran with this and that's actually a skill issue because I can't grasp "oh I'm supposed to be doing a head-turn every time it changes camera"
@@millo7295 It's a "classic disorientation technique" because it works. You're really being pissy that a moviemaking technique used specifically to disorient the viewer... disoriented the viewer? Now, me personally, I can't grasp how someone could go out and brag that they've watched so many movies that they've become jaded to something that's supposed to improve the experience.
@@Shapeshiftergreen Cage is forced to kill Rita to stop the loop since the loop resets if Cage and Rita are alive, the aliens are still a threat and Cage (or ‘Killer Cage’ as his team calls him after he killed Rita) decides to kill every last alien since he is the only one who can reset.
@@Shapeshiftergreenits not just the ending. About 90% of the story is different, the movie only borrowed the key concepts from the novel/manga. Id highly suggest you to read it yourself if you wanna know more. Id just say this contrary to Edge of tomorrows ‘happy ending’ the original novel end is a bit darker
“I’m betting you haven’t seen it either” lmao, I’ve seen this movie like 6 or 7 times. It blows my mind that people don’t talk about it, the marketing when it was coming out was crazy
People probably don't talk about it cause it came out over 10 Years ago as a one off movie with continuing the franchise in a extremely over saturated genre
I also like how the Mimics sometimes just seemingly sporadically glitch out a bit almost like a fast-forward explosion put on repeat, it looks just SO out of this world, and it makes the Mimic feel even more alien.
You explain why the concept couldn't be reused, but not really the physical design. An unnerving, wibbly-wobbly alien would work as a pretty standard design. It's the time travel that couldn't be reused (easily)
I think what he was getting at was that the story wants them to be confusing and incomprehensible to look at and that's why the design works. Could have been explained better. I could see this design being reused for other movies, but not for ALL movies. It's a very specific kind of horror.
@@indigofenix00 I mean it doesn't have to be horror. Just because they move weird and have an unrecognizable shape doesn't make them exclusive to horror. The standard big head big almond eye alien has pretty much everything from horror, to drama, to comedy. Would be pretty dope having wobbly aliens abduct humans and being confused by their physique and basically experimenting on humans by tickling them.
@Karttibone or alternatively, have featured in space opera, be they the unkownable invaders, or some peaceful group recently discovered facing great odds. There physiology is quite fun, with a lot you can do with it
Jean Jacket is an insane movie monster, I don't think it's an alien. Like yes it's a living creature that looks like a flying saucer, but we only assume it's an alien because we associate flying saucer with aliens, but it could just be an unkown order of fully terrestrial animal. Honestly, it looks like a giant flying sand dollar, a species of flat sea urchin
Yeah, because design team did the homework and decided to put more of a different idea into things rather than doing what worked before. Hell, Jean Jacket is a neat subversion because for most of the movie you expect a saucer like in all others, but it turns out it's a massive sky cephalopod
Fun fact: edge of tomorrow was inspired by a light novel and a manga that goes by the name "all you need is kill" so this practically makes this an anime movie
@@TeChNoWC7 it’s a matter of opinion, but most people are impressed. Iv even heard them called completely original some of the best monster design several times. Considering how much work and brilliance the artist put into the creatures too, it’s impressive. Like, how about you make a writhing lashing ball of twisting cords move in a way that looks good and dangerous 😆
@@xavier84623 this is an ad hominem defence that could be used for literally any creation. ‘Well you (non professional) couldn’t do better than x design’ which pretty much nullifies any critique of art. I don’t need to be able to create something as good, I can compare it to other artists and creators who can, and set the standard.
@@TeChNoWC7 …I’m saying it’s popular, they put a lot of work into it, and it’s clearly high quality on both an artistic and technical level, so why u hating?
@@xavier84623 tbh it was a MASSIVE upgrade compared to its manga counterpart to a point i am genuinely shocked how well they managed to pull it off. Then again they dont make movies like edge of tomorrow like they used to.
Check out Prey the game. They have a very similar design to these with more variations. they definitely had evil thoughts when designing them too. They modeled them after spiders except the spider is a pitch black mass of tentacles that scuttles around and can shape shift into a fucking coffee mug or anything in the environment. So it creates this constant paranoia while walking around hoping that the lamp in the corner of the room you just walked in doesn’t murder you.
You a fan of the game? Well, Bethesda should have just named it 'Neuroshock', or some other. It's Prey in name _only,_ and that in and of it‑self, is an insult to the ones that came before.
Yeah and sometimes the spider assumes human pose- aka the Phantoms and Nightmare. Nightmare especially is quite reminiscent of Mimics from Edge of Tomorrow- a mass of shifting something that only temporarrly looks like a massive humanoid just to show you that even when it's massive it can and will chase you into tiny rooms and do horrble sht to you
Back when I was a kid there was this alien “documentary” called Alien Planet or something, and I just remember the alien designs being so bizarre and unique that no other movie creature has resembled them ever since. So if you wanna see aliens that really look like aliens, then maybe check it out!
if anyone played the new Armored Core game Armored Core 6, the alien lifeform in that game is pretty unique. its basicaly sentient bio gas life form that human colonizer exploit as a source of unlimited fuel, because they are a lifeform, they can infinietly reproduce, while being used as fuel, called "Corral". it is facinating, and also come with many moral implications, like how there are multiple factions of human fight each others because they cant agreed on how to deal with these Corral. the bussiness corporations want to use for fuel and gain profit, the "native colonizer" want to use them as resource to help them survive and build independence on "their planet", and a group of scientice want to destroy all the Corral because they fear it will soon evolve pass the point of no return and take over as the apex in the evolution progress of humanity.
Coral isn't a 'lifeform'. It's just an energy source which also acts as a data conduit. BUT when large amounts of coral gather together it creates a 'wave mutation'. Now THAT wave mutation is sentient. Also all those who got exposed into the coral flow had their subconscious scattered into it so the wave mutation is based on the collective consciousness of dead Rubiconians
The Edge of tommrow mimics looks pretty unique and all but the only thing that makes it look off is its head, for some reasoon it has a jaw and i dont think an alien would have a actual working jaw, i feel like it would be very diffrent like something simular to a mouth but just as affective. I dont really know how alien life forms ways of eating would look like they would probably be so diffrent from animals on earth, we would have a very hard time understanding it.
@@VerySaneguy Funny that you say that. I'm pretty sure that the aliens originally _didn't_ have a head or eyes in a humanoid arrangement. Originally they didn't even have a head, but during production they kept adding features, because tester audiences were *too* confused by the design. Edit: oops, he literally talks about the head in the video.
0:43 It didn't flop. I saw the movie multiple times when it came out and it is one of my favourite sci-fi films of all time. I think you haven't seen it and assumed no one else did.
@0:50 What do you mean by "No one seems to have watched it" ? Edge of tomorrow was widely discussed and shared on social media, and even the most renowned movie critics on RU-vid were praising it. There are numerous video essays dedicated to analyzing its stunning visuals. It's quite surprising that your just coming across this and your audience hasn't seen it, unless you're all quite young. Even my seventeen-year-old nephew and his pairs have watched it. Although it may not have been a huge box office success like all these comic book movies, it made its money back including all production costs, and it wasn't labelled a flop even by studio standards, Please get your facts right.
A quick look at the Wikipedia page says that the movie didn't do great in the US (wasn't a flop, but not a success either). I'm not saying it's some niche art-house movie that nobody's seen, but with all the movies that come out every year it's just one I hadn't had the chance to see. Most of my friends *knew of it* but either a) hadn't seen it, or b) don't remember seeing it. EDIT: also I literally say it wasn't a flop in the video, I just joked that I thought it was a box office flop because I knew next to nothing about it.
You may be surprised to hear that I was one of the few dozen people that watched this movie in theaters when it released. It was something I watched on a whim, and I have to say, it was worth it. Story was fantastic, many explosions, action, romance was kinda silly at moments, and it’s based off of a really good manga.
The Flight of Dragons for such an early cartoon works a lot with those kinds of terror elements and poetic symbolism, that would later inspire Legend of Zelda. For biological horror Gwoemul is good at making the unknown work a lot like a wilderness bear attack, the monster is perceivable, but you don't necessarily know or SEE what you're looking at or how to deal with it.
Oh my God My dad was watching this movie when I was a kid this happens very often I’ll have faint memories of I feel like I’ve seen this scene WAIT A MINUTE and remember the movie
Mimics seem pretty cool, I think also that Jean Jacket from nope is up there bc that it hardly even resembles any form of life at all. And they did t even try to justify that or incorporate it into the story, they just let it happen bc of course it looks crazy, it’s an alien. There’s also the heptapods, which are most interesting in how they interact with and perceive the universe.
My problem with this kind of alien is that it's so far removed from anything that actually exists that it stops being scary to me. Any time someone tries to make something seem incomprehensible it always just seems to just be goo to me. Once you go beyond a certain degree of complexity my brain just stops trying to understand what I'm looking at and it's dismissed as oddly textured goo instead of whatever intricate little parts it's supposed to be made of. And you keep emphasizing the fact that the alien design can't be copied because of how interconnected it is with the time loop plot, but you never explained why. Their visual appearance really has nothing to do with the story.
Really? It had the opposite effect on me. The mimic looks like a fish more akin to a lion fish. I just don't understand why people are saying it's design is "so otherworldly" and unique. It has limbs,a core body and a head ( if the filmmakers would've gone with the original idea of it being headless then maybe it's visual silhouette would be hard to read. )
"Mimics have no consistent shape or silhouette" and somehow when they're in combat it's easier to understand what's going on than in the transformers movies fight scenes...
to be honest having aliens being inspired from aquatic wildlife is probably the best way to go, just like the mimics looking similar to that of a jellyfish and a squid and a centipede having a fusion, having aliens inspired by wildlife of our oceans where we barely understand in the first place makes it more alien and believable for their designs.
And then the novel's description that can be summed up as "A starfish-like monster that looks like a bloated dead frog". It's almost as if no one know how these alien actually looks like so they just vibe with whatever most menacing/scary they can imagine.
Saw Edge of Tomorrow in 3D. Had no clue what it was going in but "hey this looks interesting". Cruise played his part exceptionally well and the movie overall was immensely enjoying.
The mimics movement style is the closest to an amoeba. They extend the tentacles out of the center and move in that direction, while the back contracts into the core.
I love the exosuits in this movie. The mix of sci-fi bullshit and modern equipment like the mich 2001 helmet and glass face plate is very well done imo
The key to designing an extraterrestrial for film is to imagine a Not form , a being that we cannot comprehend when we first see it , we need to forget what forms we see in terrestrial nature, just throw that all away, it won’t be of this world, it’s very existence is the result of evolution in a non terrestrial environment. One of the best alien beings I’ve read about was in the short story Arena by Richard Matheson , the Rollers I suggest you look into that story The Rollers are a good example of a TRUE alien body plan.
Man, I remember being so hyped and seeing it on release day. I was not disappointed. Then I went to a Redbox like 2 weeks later and saw it there under the name "Live Die Repeat," and I was so confused because I thought it was "Edge of Tomorrow." It felt like I was crazy.
I love this movie. There is a darkness to it that means I can only take it bite sized bits, but the story is clever and the execution was phenomenal. Not your average movie.
Edge of Tomorrow is probably one of the most underrated movies ever. All of the promotional material makes it look generic as all hell, but it's one of my favorite action and sci-fi movies of all time. The design, camera work and direction is absolutely perfect, all encapsulated in a movie that, to anyone who sees the poster, looks like just another generic action flick starring Tom Cruise.
The funny thing when I watched this movie was being flabbergasted at how similar the mimics were to a species in some stuff I was writing at the time. Granted, the Mimics are WAY more monstrous and freaky, but the same general concept: A central head with dozens of metal tendrils/vines that tangle together to form the creature's body and limbs. The main difference being that the things I was writing were way more chill and sapient, and have a habit of tangling themselves together to imitate the general shape of creatures they live around (so for instance if one were living around humanoids it'd tangle itself together to form the rough shape of two arms, two legs, torso, with its crystal-ball-like head on top).
I made a Photoshopped collage once of "alienness" in scifi, and though I can't post it here, from least to most alien would be as follows:[Most old Star Trek aliens] --> Silurians (Doctor Who) --> Na'vi --> Wookies --> Yautja (Predator) --> Martians (War of the Worlds) --> Xenomorphs (Alien) --> Mimics (Edge of Tomorrow) --> Heptapods (Arrival) --> The Thing --> The Shimmer (Annihilation) --> Solaris. //Thanks, though. You made me think I should put the mimics even higher.
The design, the themes of incomprehensableness and the descriptions given in the video remond me al lot of lovecraftian monsters, Shoggoths speciffically, as they constantly shapeshift.
I think Arrival also had an amazing alien design. Realistically, lifeforms on different planets would most likely evolve vastly differently, so the heptopods are really well done and unique in my opinion.
I am convinced that the ABSOLUTELY BEST alien concept are Precursors from Subnautica series. They digitized their identities so they wouldn't depend on their bodies (Atleast so did Al-An) and created a perfect body consisting of DNA of different species from different planets they colonized. Instead of giant flying flat dishes they used high-tech spaceships with hyperjump technology and teleportation. And also they don't wipe out anything that doesn't go with their plans like movie aliens do, but take care of the colonized planet's ecosystem, researching it and experimenting on it. Though Edge of Tomorrow concept is also great, this is my second favorite movie after Interstellar.
Honestly now knowing how ro make genuinely incomprehensible movement gives me inspiration to go into animation and giving Magic the Gathering's Resident Eldritch Horrors Eldrazi an actual set of freakish animations!
A little movie called Edge of Tomorrow. Not many know about it. A small unknown actor named Thomas Cruise Mapother IV. Very obscure, only made $100 million domestic.
edge of tomorrow is actually probably one of the most popular time loop movies, its just people dont really talk much about the amazing design of the aliens
i saw this movie with my brother in the theaters when it came out and BRO this movie was straight fire glad too see more people appreciate the monster design.
The Edge of Tomorrow Aliens share a lot of design details with the Typhon from 2017's "Prey" which is a top notch game. The Typhon also have a variant known as Mimics as well, but functionally they work like classic D&D mimics, disguising as objects. The Typhon are made of swirling black mass and tentacles, vaguely resembling different things in shape alone, but still anomalous enough that you never lose that discomfort of the inability to really truly comprehend what it is you're looking at. and with each new variant you encounter, that same effect is ramped up. The White Spikes from "The Tomorrow War" aren't incomprehensible, but they are a fantastic alien design, as are the Chimera from Resistance I felt a lot of resemblance with those to to the Mimics of EOT, minus the incomprehensibility
also something that recent media do a lot is that they have a long exposition about the monster or alien in the begining instead of just showing it and let the audience figure it out themselves. i almost didnt understand edge of tommorow plot until the last act, and thats a good thing
Damn... people still finding this underrated movie... remember watching this back when it came out and thought it was really refreshing and interesting. Another one was Battle Los Angeles - although the alien is similar to those seen before, I found the whole scenario of their 'similarity' much more appealing.
Oh mg, wait it just occurred to me. The Daddy Long Legs (big blue black monsters from Rain World) are perfect examples of Edge of Tomorrows logic. A monster with a base, lots of semi-unrecognisable tendrils, that is animated in a procedural mannerism. Admitedly the Daddy Long Leg is designed more like an Octopus, and hence moves more like one, but still.
