A brief discussion surrounding the sports watch trinity and the idea of choosing one of them as an only watch. The talk breaks down the design and details of each without bias and then ends with a summary.
@IDGuy - thanks for the great video man, really appreciate you taking the time to create a video of my chosen topic. This topic is of interest to me as I’m searching for my signature watch. I am in agreement with you, the Nautilus is the one, for the reasons you rightly mention. Can’t wait to get mine....God bless.
IDGUY, It is a pleasure to watch and hear the way you explain these three masterpieces. The ending of you speech is so beautiful and full of meaning. Congrats, man! God bless you.
What a brilliant video, well done. You have asked the right questions, specially with Rolex Daytona.I am recommending this video to my friends, it will stop them from getting carried away by hype.
I've loved the Nautilus design since the mid 80s, long before I knew who Gerald Genta was, and before I knew that Genta designed the Omega Constellation, Royal Oak, IWC ingeniuer, Hublot and VC styles, etc. The Nautilus is my favourite out of all the Genta designs.
I found your channel and really like the love for details and your clear focus on aesthetics. The comment on Daytona vs. Sub made me smile. For me the best daily rocker is the Zenith 2.2310.400 last gen. There you get both in one case (with date w/o cyclops ;-)
Wow this is a fantastic piece of analysis! I happen to have the 41mm APRO, the moonphase Nautilus 5712 and this 116500. Every point you mentioned is right on the spot. I particularly like the part about the 5711 being too simple to be a "one watch" and it needs to have elements to draw you back in. I also dislike how the date window intrudes the dial. Another thing I used to dislike about the daytona is the lack of a date window, which was why I sold a previous piece a decade ago. These days I don't even set the date. As for the APRO, I find it rather uncomfortable to wear, but the bracelet is a marvellous piece of engineering. I don't have a "one piece" out of the three, but it depends very much on the occasion. The nautilus for special functions/events, the Daytona for very casual days, and the APRO for anything in-between.
Excellent analysis of 3 iconic timepieces...I like them all and agree with most of your points, excluding the date window of the Nautilus - I like it...An other Genta designed watch you may prefer is the Bulgaro Octo Solotempo.
Royal Oak - No doubt it's sublime the only choice, by far 🙏🏼🌟 Love your eloquent description of a piece of steel 😘❣️When someone really special finally show up in my life!
I am a huge Daytona fanboy. If there were such a thing as a day date Daytona I would camp outside the store and sell my body to get one. That said. Thank you for pointing out the subdials no longer being centered with the 3 and 9 hour markers. I had never noticed. Now it’s all I can notice! My rose colored glasses are broken:(
@@sergeyzerkin8029 And it's not like its not impossible for them to do it either! I think their business model is just not focused in that area anymore...
An excellent presentation .... My wife wears a Special Edition (118) AP Royal Oak Offshore Diver in Tangerine, White Gold and Stainless Steel, and I wear a Limited Edition (255) AP Royal Oak Offshore QEII Cup in Forged Carbon and Rose Gold and we both love them so much,
I believe Patek, AP and Vacheron to be the trilogy worth considering and comparing. The Daytona being a chrono also makes it a different animal all together.
Very true. I made this video at the request of a viewer who had the option of choosing these three pieces. In future I'll be making a series around a variety of other watches that fall into the same categories (Like the Calatrava, Patrimony, Classique and the Master Grande Ultra Thin). Thanks for the comment, Marcus!
Excellent video, as usual. If by one watch, we're talking about the most iconic design, it's for sure the 5711. But if by one watch, you mean a watch you can wear and use every day and under any circumstances without worrying about damage, it has to be the Daytona (I've owned the 5711, the Daytona, and an AP chrono which is close to the jumbo). My reasons: 1. 5mm easy link extension in the Daytona clasp is essential. The 5711 clasp is bottom line awful. AP has a better clasp but no extension. 2. The Daytona ceramic bezel is scratch proof and looks *like new* forever. The 5711 bezel is delicate beyond belief and looks awful once it's scratched up. Trust me, given its current value, you won't be using the 5711 in the garage unless you are a Russian billionaire who loves to work in the garage. Same goes for the AP - beautiful when new but ... gaaad it's awful when bashed up. 3. Ease and cost of service. Patek literally takes months and costs thousands to service in either NY or Switzerland. AP has a NJ service center but also takes months and costs thousands. The Daytona, weeks and perhaps $1K at any RSC.
agree with all you said and further more , i compare getting the perfect girl. ( there isnt one ) , the 5711 is the most sexy watch i have ever wear , in fact i bought 2 of them, white and grey , i am not letting them go any time soon, once discontinue it will hit a serious amount of money , . i service my 5711 recently and is not to costly (1.200us) . cheers .
Excellent points, Reptilicus...thanks for sharing those. As a Daytona Ceramic owner myself, I especially liked your justifications for the Daytona. lol I hate watches that scratch easily (too much polished areas that get bumped easily). I have a Cartier Santos that I LOVE, but it has a polished metal bezel surface which looks beautiful but drives me nuts. I unfortunately, am one of those guys that likes my watch to stay pristine looking. It's a tough battle with highly polished watches.
Very professional assessment from a designer’s viewpoint. Full marks and the smooth and comforting voice over is a bonus as usual. However I would opine that the question could be different and would yield different conclusions. For example, which would you choose if you’re a 30 something vs a middle aged man. And if you’re attending a cocktails party of high society, which would you wear? Or if you go to a gathering of good old pals which one? Etc.
You're too kind, man. I hope that this channel one day turns into a huge archive of discussions that'll be a resource for everyone interested in the hobby (but for now, the work needs to go into it first haha!) Thank you for your comment and appreciation, brother.
That is your photo of your watch? All I can say is that you have a terrific eye and thank you for sharing it!! I hope you've been wearing it in good health for many years, Tom.
Although I agree with your assessment almost entirely i must add that if the three the only one I've seen in the wild was the Royal Oak (two tone no less) and I was amazed at how subtle and elegant it was. I was in my chiropractor's waiting room when I glance at the wrist of the gentleman next to me and thought "what a beautiful and interestingly unique watch". I said "excuse me, but you have a really lovely watch there, what is it"? "AP" he replied nonchalantly. We then had a nice discussion about being a WIS and he asked about my collection (though I was wearing a 5610 Casio). As I left I couldn't help but think "man, that guy just oozed class! " Love your discussion man ;)
Thank you M F! I tried to make it as rational is possible (but it is extremely difficult to really pick one of them - Ideally we'd go with all three) But thank you for the comment! I plan on making "The Perfect One Watch" into a series through all segments of watches which is going to be exciting!
Great review of these classics! What about a video on the Seiko 6138 (Bullhead, Panda, Kakume, UFO...) vintage chronographs from a design point of view?Cheers, Jay
Thanks for making this great video. It’s very enjoyable to watch. I think to really find out which that “one watch” is, you should own all these three watches and wear them regularly. You will find which one is the one you really like. For me, I have owned a black sub for 3 years and I recently got the SS Daytona. It feels great to have the Daytona on the wrist everyday since I got it. After a month or so, I decided to wear the sub again. Surprisingly I found the sub is so beautiful, it’s super easy to read, elegant and very strong. I could wear it for all the occasions and not worry about any scratches or dint. I don’t think I have all these feelings for the Daytona, probably not for the other two neither. Now I know the black SS sub is that “one watch” for me. Yes, all those rare watches will make us look good but that “one watch” is the one we truly need as an everyday watch.
First rate video. Thought provoking, nuanced and educational. Made me appreciate the Nautilus and Royal Oak - two designs I've always found difficult and challenging. I find all three designs slightly annoying in different ways and would take a pre-Supercase Sub or 40mm Sea-Dweller as my every day and a Al&S or Breguet as a formal. Not one watch though! Doh...
You talk as if the Royal Oak and Nautilus will not be enduring classics. What’s so incomparable about the Daytona? The bracelet, finishing and movement are all excellent but can’t hold a candle to what the other two have to offer.
Yes , and the 5711 is climbing like a rocket , hitting nearly 100k usd . check it in chronos24. if or when discontinued ?, you wont find one 5711 for less than 300k usd . Look at the Paul Newman Panda , over 1million . everyone is buying them as a retirement plan now .
I love seeing all the love for the Daytona in these comments - considering I am a very fortunate owner of one myself. I became SO obsessed with this watch, that I paid the crazy street price! There was no way I could wait years to buy one directly from Rolex.
I love all 3 but the nautilus is the one for me . It looks good with anything that you wear I do own the AP chrono and it’s a bit flashy but then again I get more compliments wearing a Rolex then I do my AP or PP
AP all The way. Genta had it right with the first design.when you put them side-by-side the Royal oak gives the Nautilus 52 Swift kicks in the ass and beauty
I beleive the perfect one watch is a datejust 41 (or 36 depending on your taste) with a fluted bezel and oyster bracelet. It does everything. And if you dress up more than down just get it on a jubilee bracelet
Hahaha it's a sad, sad reality...the compulsion to buy more runs so deep. All things considered, I'd never be a one watch guy...variety is just too much fun! Thanks for the comment, man!
With PP you have the Calatrava and the Nautilus two trick pony. With the AP Royal Oak a one trick pony. Rolex has the Day Date, Date Just, Explores, Submariner, GMT, Daytona, Yacht Master, all icons. Rolex being considered lower class because they are not completely hand made. I would choose Rolex every time because they seem to have more thoroughbreds in the stable and l don't like the odd designs of the others. Cheers
@@garysmith1477 hahaha thays very interesting... because actually many of pateks sell good ... not only nautilus or aquanuat... but yeah true about royal oak ... I think Daytona is amazing... but royal oak bests it in terms of charm...guys like us should own all of them
Love the amount of videos lately! I don't like the Nautilus at all. The Royal Oak is nice, especially the bracelet, but I wouldn't spend that amount of money on it. I prefer the Daytona, preferably an older model since I don't like the layout of the 'recent' ones
Thank you Samme! They all have their strengths and weaknesses for sure (and I tried to bring that across) and the Zenith Daytona's really knew what layout meant! I appreciate the comment, man.
A watch has to meet the mood, therefore I will take all three to match my many moods. However, if as you say in the video I had to choose one then the answer has to be the PP Nautilus
I own the AP Royal Oak, my favorite watch to wear daily though is Patek Aquanaut. I enjoy that dial a little better then the Nautilus, but that’s personal preference.
The perfect one watch is the Vacheron Constantin Overseas 4500V. Part of the “Big three” or “Trinity” and you get 3 straps to suit the occasion. Finishing quality is simply outstanding. Maybe because you can buy the VC straight from the boutique and not having to get on a painful waiting list, it wasn’t compared here? In that case, waiting lists are highly overrated.
I've said this a few times: I can't wait to sink my teeth into the VC and discuss it! This video was a suggestion of a handful of watches that @Reza R wanted to buy (so instead of giving him a comment, I made a video about the topic) In future I'll be doing more "The Perfect One Watch" series' and compare all sorts of models against each other. And the VC is definitely going to face off against these heavy hitters! Thank you for the comment, Fuad!
Royal Oak or Rolex BLNR for me. I should point out, though, that the Nautilus can come with a chronograph or moon phase complication, which elevates it above the Daytona.
Thank you, man! It was actually a reply to a question that I thought would make a cool video. In the future I'll be making a series called "The Perfect One Watch" and compare and contrast all sorts. Thanks for the comment
I never relaised how much the white date on the Nautilus irks me, till you mentioned it. I do believe its an awesome watch, But for me the 10k gap between the AP and Patek is a no no for me.
To me the seconds hands of a watch is its pulse, it's how I receive a visual key and affirmation that the watch is alive and well. I see no merits of not having it. As a designer myself, I'm also disappointed why the date is so often put at the 3 o'clock position. I would consider placing it above the 6 o' clock position as it would bring stability to the layout in my humble opinion, or between 4 and 5 o clock. I'm surprised how removing the 3 o'clock line has become the norm, perhaps its due to technical reasons of the positioning of complication that favors this placement.
Lol. Wouldn’t wanna get grease on it or scratch it. The amount of times that I have scratched my arms or rubbed it against something working on a car is making me cringe, thinking about doing that with a patek on😬
Genta rendered a perfect design with the Royal Oak. The Nautilus he designed for women, and it is visible as such. The Daytona...Economics and availability aside, I would always prefer the Zenith El Primero.
It’s also the only of the three Holy Trinity “Gentas” (I realize the VC Genta connection is debatable but we all know what they were going for) that doesn’t have a nonsense design feature (ie pointless screw slots on the Royal Oak front nuts and a nonfunctional swinging hinge on the left side of the Nautilus)
personally Royal Oak all the Way, i have the 2018 Model with the black dial in stainless and date complication, would never consider anything else if i could only have one watch
Initially I was really into the RO, however over time the Nautilus won my heart over. It's just that little bit more refined and classes than the RO imo. Not even to mention the perfect size and how the bracelet wraps around and wrist size.
Out the 3 after owning a Daytona...and I tried on RO...is the best out of all...design, looks wearability and this is a true watch I would wear with a suit. I agree with the window at 3...only bad point.
@@yetidh9 yes the AP I did try and it look and felt good in my head...till I put one in and than. I liked more the idea than the feel I got from it...nautilus all the way for me.. When I'll have the chance to buy it will be the tough choice between pp nautilus or Lange&S.
I have a high degree of regard for the the AP, and PP.....but would prefer the Vacheron Constantin Overseas Simple Date over those two. I also don’t care enough for Gerald Genital’s designs to shell out my own cash to own them. The Daytona has too many knobs competing with the one wearing it, but of the three, I’d go Daytona because of Rolex’s robust reliability. ONE watch? Rolex Explorer..... I have been considering a white gold Day Date 40.......but no real need other than I’d like to own it. Thanks...
my choice AP. round shape dial is purest form. this is what nautilus always missing. AP classy, simple, modern, rich at the same time, but I am not sure if I would swap it with my 214270.....
I own them all and it's a tough call. Probably between my Nautilus and my steel ceramic white dial Daytona, but my particular Nautilus is the only steel version with the alligator strap. I would rather have a steel bracelet for a one watch collection, so the nod goes to my Daytona.
how i wish your comparison was between the AP-RO, PP-Nautilus and the VC Overseas and not the Rolex Daytona. in terms of high horology steel sports watches, the VC is closer to that category from the Rolex Daytona. just a though
The Nautilus or more precisely, an Aquanaut for me. The Daytona's small size, illegibility and irrelevant complication (for me) renders it third place. I owned one and quickly exchanged it for a blue dial Sky Dweller, which is much more of a pleasant to look at watch, who's complication will never become obsolete or boring like a chronograph. The Royal Oak like the VC Overseas, which should have been included in the video and is conspicuous by its absence from the final trio, just contains far too much stainless steel. Both look like throw backs from a previous age that I don't much care for. Large statement watches for people with either too large or too small egos. I love the dial configuration, indecises, hands et cetera but I always come back to the amount of silver on show (primarily on the chainmail-like bracelet) and never get beyond that. I find it rather bizarre how the amount of Gold on a watch is frowned upon in many watch circles and yet, these 80s silver stainless steel relics still seem to pass muster. Bizarre!
The rolex is much better for daily use, especialy the sub ( better protection from the body from scratches) The AP (i have the chrono black dail) you see scratches really fast especcially on the polished side of the bezel
