(This is the last thumbnail change I SWEAR) Timestamps for mobile users! 00:01 - Monsters 01:45 - Introduction 03:56 - Part 1: Shigaraki, the Character 18:55 - Part 2: Shigaraki, the Narrative Device 24:40 - Part 3: Shigaraki, the Thematic Element 38:07 - Conclusion Thanks for watching! EDIT: Since people keep asking, the song that plays during Part 3's start is Rayquazas Appearance Theme from Pokemon Emerald!
I always said that MHA was more about sociological story telling than typical shonen hero's journey nonsense. Every time a desperate or person disfigured by their quirk is called a villian I cringe a little bit of, but I absolutely love it.
The fact Horikoshi also gave a whole arc to the league of villains with the exclusion of Deku while placing Shigaraki as the protagonist of that arc could mean that Shigaraki is equally as important as the main character.
Something tells me he may end up becoming good and him and deku have to fight some enemy together you never know lol soo much mystery villains can be changed after all and hero’s corrupted
Midoriya was created out of the idealism of a superhero society and must constantly face the reality of what a superhuman society brings about. Shigaraki was created out of the reality of a superhuman society and must constantly face the ideals imposed on said society.
@Guyn Huỳnh Công Both them will be powerful in there prime they did fight in the war but that was just a test just to bring Afo back but when the real fight starts it will be amazing
Couldn't it be said that they're the other way around too? that Midoriya was created out of the reality of a superhuman society but that he has decided to help eliviate the unfairness of reality instead? While Shigaraki is raised by an idealism of selfishness from AFO who just wants to do what he wants without thinking of people as caricatures
Shigaraki was abused by his father:- like Todoroki His father's disdain for heroes started due to his mother choosing to be a hero basically abandoning him:- Similar to Kota He was in a way cursed by a highly strong power in a very young age he accidentally at first used to kill his parent:- Like Eri What do these 3 characters have in common? Their POV changed, In a sense they were saved because of a certain green haired OFA user.
And that’s the real difference isn’t it. They were all saved by someone kind who wanted to help them recover from and overcome the tragedies that were twisting them. Shigaraki was “saved” by someone only Interested in using the twisted state shigaraki had reached for his own legacy and purposes.
@@toadlord8594 Yes but Tomura says fuck that because he acknowledges that he could've been saved but now after everything he's done. He doesn't want to be saved by anyone, he wants to change society and make sure no one goes through what he went through. I know he doesn't actually want that in the long run but I like thinking that's his end goal.
I think one of shiggy’s best traits is how realistic his development is. His motivations have never really changed but his approach has. Which is a very realistic way of showing character growth. The utter simplicity of his goal but the willingness he wants to have to achieve it so interesting that I low key want to see him develop more even if he will he eventually stopped. After all he did something that I feel like a lot people in a post all might society hasn’t done yet: accept reality and get stronger for himself instead of waiting for a savior.
Donniedrako15 E25 It’s the same reason I love Eren Jaeger. His goals and ideology are exactly the same, but his attitude and the way he achieves his goals are completely different to how they once were.
I'm just worried about how Shigaraki is going to develop anymore. He already is liberated, he is a calm and powerful leader, he's a badass, and he even forgets about All for one/his family to show he has became his own person. But I wonder how he will get even MORE evil. his goal is coming to be in japan, but where does it go next?
@@zemox2534 Well Shiggy wouldn't tell the police, he's just going to destroy everything and rebuild all of it again, the way it SHOULD be. The word "hero" will never be mentioned again, because the villains are not "vilains".. those so called "heroes" birthed them. So calling them Villains is just ironic. I think that's something that Shigaraki hates a lot.
@@mouses_HK There are still plenty of ways his character could go. Perhaps the power will go to his head and his personal development regresses. Perhaps he grows closer with his subordinates, and thus crazier as he loses them. Perhaps he gains the traits Oceaniz mentioned he lacked at 35:23 and turns the PLF into a proper revolutionary group, and he a proper savior. Perhaps he conquerors japan and turns out to be pretty good at it, a very benevolent evil overlord, and the conflict sheds it's black & white basis of "good vs evil" to become a battle of ideologies. Or perhaps he could even zig-zag a bit, becoming a proper leader of a country and bettering it, but then deciding to move onto conquering the entire world that's still on the same BS he conquered japan for, and thus Deku must be the hero to save the world. There are plenty of directions his character could go, is what I'm saying. Directions that aren't limited to, but definitely include, becoming even more of an ultimate evil.
One thing that I noticed on my reread of the series is that Tensei tells Iida that people who save a scared child are the most heroic people in the world. Shigaraki was that scared child that nobody saved. Horikoshi was already subtly weaving in Shigaraki’s origin and how it ties into the core of the series.
@@Daboy804 not only that but when he weant to choke midoriya he was wearing a black hoodie and baggy clothes. not to mention but he also is insanely crusty.
The league of villains caring about each other is super threatening, because they always have each others backs. The ones who gel the best with their fellow members always cause the most damage. Dabi, who is apathetic to the others usually ends up doing nothing, while twice becomes a force of destruction.
@@mouses_HK I mean frankly, he's probably able and perfectly willing to revive Twice from the dead. Literally I think he already has the quirks for it: Compress has the perfectly preserved Overhaul elbow to close the wounds, he can borrow Twice's quirk for a blood transfusion like Twice did for Toga, and then they just need that electric guy from Compress' team who Edgeshot stabbed to restart the heart and brain. and if any of those end up not available/working for whatever reason, who knows what other quirks he has at his disposal now? So really, it just depends on if anyone recovered the body. (For God's sake, somebody have recovered the body. We got like 20 new villain faces this arc that've barely done anything, surely somebody wants to endear themselves to the audience.)
I love to see Twice back, but I just do not seeing it happening. For one thing, it would take away from the emotional impact of his death. Also why would Compress keep the arm of Kai? He would have thrown it away by now. If Jin's body is recovered, I see Toga drinking his blood and using his powers to avenge him. That would just make her even more dangerous and it would technically bring Twice back without resurrecting him.
@@Daboy804 cant try it, their is a reason why i cry inside everytime i try the signiture Shigaraki smile is because i am not free, i cant be free and im an adult....
Another parallel I'd like to bring up is: Both Shigaraki and Deku's masters bestowed their quirks to the successor and fought each other with the inferior version of said quirk: The remaining embers of One for All and (as revealed way later in the manga) The Copied version of All for One.
the two weakest pillars of the world fought their last time at their weakest, destroyed almost a city just by one weakning another and then one punching. Bruh.
Horikoshi's art is amazing, especially when it comes to Shigaraki and the other villains. Ironically he's mentioned how he hates drawing certain villains like Shigaraki, but it kind of seems like that's because he puts so much of his A-game into them. Man does he draw Shigaraki in this weird quantum state of supermodel pretty & horror-monster ugly.
I honestly love the manga style so much more than the animes. Something about the animes just makes some of the characters in the anime just plain out stupid looking or... ugly... Literally all of the characters Horikoshi draws (even fucking mineta) looks good. i mean, HAVE YOU SEEN HIS MIRKO DRAWINGS??! HORIKOSHI MAKES ME WANT MIRKO TO BE REAL! While the anime....
I finally get it. How his simple wish to destroy is only simple at face value: it derives from Shigaraki's own circumstances, his family, his birth, the entire influence of society weighing on him and ignoring him. "All it takes is one bad day" to create the very destroyer of all that you know.
actually its his quirk that made him this way even more. imagine if he had nana shimura flying quirk when his incident happened. instead of accidentally killing his dog, he would just fly away from his family. the quirk power is the one who ruined him in the first place, knowing hes a kid and all.
Kyrio Kyrio that’s some what true. But it mostly comes from his family issues and society. Has dad beat him and the world of heroes ignored him. Remember he went full in on his dad knowing full well it would kill him...
@@Midorikonokami It doesn't matter if All for one gave him the quirk, Even if Shigaraki was quirkless, he would've still became a villain. He said himself that he hated everything, even if he didn't have a quirk, he would still try and destroy everything. Ofc he wouldn't have gotten far without his quirk, still.. Shigaraki doesn't need a quirk to be born into a broken society.
@@mouses_HK I agree with this but i don't think society would be the problem. I think tenko maybe wouldn't have been able to adjust and live with the hardships of people constantly throwing their ideals at you so he would either get depressed or fall into other groups who thought like him.
What's amazing is that All for One could have taken Shigaraki's quirk, erase All Might, erase whoever he wants, and win. However, that assumes All For One just wants to win. But that's not his game plan, he truly just likes stirring the pot in every way he can. All for One never cared about losing, nor does he care about Shigaraki surpassing him or even destroying him. All For One just loves the idea of hell on earth, and letting loose Shigaraki on the world fits his plan much better than it would if he himself had those powers.
@@wisdommanari6701 What makes it compelling is that it's so petty, it defines All for One. That's what's wild about All for One, most of what he does is petty, but he's clearly self aware and just driven towards it. This is how he derives enjoyment and pleasure. I find most characters are defined by their quirks, Shigaraki's quirk is a destructive quirk, and therefore he has a need to destroy. So when thinking about All for One, applying this same reasoning, I learn that if we had to analyze All for One by his quirk, we'd see two big things. Greed and boredom. His quirk makes him greedy for the sake of being greedy, but since he has everything, he's unable to satisfy or sustain this greed, therefore he's driven by his boredom more than almost everything else. That's literally all he's doing, he's fighting boredom. He has no reason to want to mercilessly destroy Nana's legacy, she's just a single One for All user of many. However, he's bored, so for him "Just because" is a good enough reason.
And it fits. I mean, as a kid, just like his brother, he loved being a spectator or audience to the stories of good and evil in the form of manga/comics. Once he got his power, he was able to enforce his own ideal unto the world, that of the demon king who ruled above all and leads the story. Even if he fails to possess Shigaraki, I believe he’s completely satisfied and ecstatic to witness the birth of a new world similar to the one he grew up reading from the comfort of his confinement; though, he’s not truly confined as you can’t imprison someone who’s already free in spirit. Either way, he wins.
A lot people seem to think that “just because he’s powerful that doesn’t make him a good villain”. But that’s completely missing the point, he isn’t “just powerful”, he’s developed as he has accumulated it. His growth in power reflects his growth as a person in both his actions and his ideology. He _is_ ridiculously powerful, but that is only a small part of why he is an amazing villain.
I haven't Showered for a year but I use to like afo and wanted to no more about him but when shigarki started to become more of a good villain afo is just in the way now
Brandon Gray All For One probably has a plan. Who knows what else they put in him with the surgery. Anyone with a brain could predict shigy would take the power up and then do his own thing. I’m sure he expects this and he made Shigaraki more powerful than himself.
@@ivans.5959 Omg you're totally right Where can I find someone like shiggy in my life, strong willed, wants to change the world with those he cares abt Dang thats hot
Shigaraki went from traditional flavorless shonen protagonist to one of my favorite vilain within 1 Arc. If you had told me 3 years ago that I would end up liking him more than the Hero Killer Stain I would have said no way, but here we are
He’s become one my favorite characters next to Bakugou, Deku, Tokoyami and Todoroki in the entire My Hero series and one of my favorite anime Villains of all time.
carl lipsey I’m just worried about how much they’ll censor the violence arc, especially Shigaraki’s well “Baptism in Blood”. I.e killing his own family. Then again they made Magne’s death more violent animated.
"People do not wish to see those who are excluded from their privilege, people don't want to be reminded of how broke the system they profit off is." This line has so much mean especially in today's age
I love how writers are beginning to realize that the power of friendship can be used by the bad guys too. I think the phantom troupe started that, but I love seeing how all of the league of villains genuinely care about each other. Despite being weaker than all of them, they are respect spinner, and the only one who ever puts him down for his lack of power is himself. Twice risked his sanity to save his friend Toga, and Toga and the others were elated to see that he had grown so much and they were all happy for him. It makes the villains so much scarier and so much more fun to watch if they actually give a crap about the people around them, because then there’s stakes for them as well.
They've realized this since forever. There are examples of villains using the power of friendship since at least the early 90's. In Dragonquest Adventures of Dai, Hadlar is a villain that goes from a backstabbing piece of crap who wants nothing but power to a guy who literally stakes his final blow in a duel to death with the main protagonist on the unfulfilled wished of his fallen subordinates, not for the sake of power, but to see how far he could push himself as an individual.
The way I determined deku and shigaraki's desires for society was how they would view endeavor's past actions. If shiggy, the guy who was abused by his father and killed him knew what endeavor had done, I personally feel like he would be far more ruthless towards him, and wouldn't see any hope of redemption for him, because believing so would naturally contradict his own beliefs. Deku on the other hand, already knows what endeavor has done but still seeks to learn from him, simply because deku still finds salvagable aspects in him because he attempts to atone for his actions, and his importance to the current state of society. TL;DR deku is glass half full about society, shiggy is glass must be destroyed and a new one with fresher juice must be made but not by me lol
Shiggy would consider Endeavour to be the perfect encapsulation of the Hero society, one that cares only about himself and uses and abuses those around him to get what he wants. And he views All Might as the one who facilitates this by protecting the filthy world with a thin plastic sheen to hide the truth and allow people to go about life not accepting responsibility for the world they live in. Deku sees Endeavour as someone who tries hard to save people and be the best at it, while making some rather big errors in judgement along the way. Shiggy sees only what enforces his own beliefs, Deku sees the person.
@@VeWatchesVideos If Shiggy knew the truth about Dabi, he would encourage him to get his revenge. He would even offer to help make Enji suffer. Tomura maybe a twisted harbinger of destruction but he will always be there to help out a member of hs crew.
@@user-ho4tb5qe7v Shigaraki is more like "this cup was awful so I'm gonna break it and the next cup can't possibly be worse than this" So I don't think he cares much about the next cup, he certainly won't be making it, but as long as is better than the one he broke than whatever
I think that killing AFO voice in his head is another example of him refusing to be a pawn. It shows how he has grown fully indipendent of his master and that he no longer admires AFO
I believe Tomura will discard the last name AFO gave him and adopt a new. One. He already cut ties with his family, so now he just need to severe the last link to his former master and choose a new surname to reflect his liberation.
I normally don't like villains, but Shigaraki really ended up becoming one of my favorite characters in HeroAca. Next season can't come soon enough. My Villain Academia is gonna be awesome.
I really appreciate Oceaniz. Most of the analysis for MHA is something it does wrong or the fandom praising it for the most simple things. It gives the series such a bad wrap. I like how this channel actually takes the time and effort to look into the anime beyond surface level.
For real!!! Theres a deeper conversation to be found at the heart of every great story, and I'm disappointed by how few people take the time to give bnha's ingenious thematic core any thought.
I am actually surprised at the level of discussion in these comments. While it's nothing Shakespeare or Freud would write about, it's miles above what usually goes in this series' fandom. It's usually people caring about vapid shit like shipping, or seeing the morality of this show in very black and white terms. Someone said I supported terrorists and mass murderers just because I said Toga's criticism of the Hero society in last chapter wasn't as hypocritical as it would initially seem, since Hero society is actually kinda fucked up in some ways.
There are *some people* that refuses to acknowledge Shigaraki having a point in wanting to destroy my hero's society because they truly think that it has zero flaws. I mean damn.
@@bluechoi4690 My only guess is first impressions. He acted like a man child when we first meet him and i guess that just stuck to alot of people. Honeslty there's a ton of people who can't seem to get that MHA is as much about Shigaraki growing into a villian as it is about Deku growing into a hero.
It may just be horikoshi's magnificent art style, but you can't deny that the panels of shigaraki accepting his past and finally being liberated look hauntingly beautiful.
@@hana0647 How was Tenko quirkless, there's a theory about the fact that AFO was the guy that gave Shiggy the Decay Quirk but that's only a theory so is there any facts you have about that statement?
@@Dazhdaha ok so shiggy had the same shoes and almight and deku and we already know quirkless people’s feet are different also there’s a theory that what quirk you have changes your personality like bakugo has an explosive personality and deku started acting exactly like all might when he received ofa and if you think about it shiggys personality switched up when he got his quirk + the fact that his friends used to leave him out of playing hero that was probably cause he didn’t have a quirk
@@hana0647 It's not based on quirks it's just storywriting like Deku had already shown heroic aspects before being the 9th user of OFA plus you once again said that its a theory not factual proof
*"Whoever said... we need a future?"* Love this video. Shiggy has become my favorite character in the whole show. And he just keeps getting better. I only wish the latest chapter came out sooner so you could include the part where AFO tries to take control of Shigaraki's body, only for Shiggy to completely reject him.
When you finally mentioned that first line - all men are not created equal - I got chills and tears. Finally, finally someone talks about how important this is. How Stain is the fist one who truly embodies this, and then Shigaraki learns this from him AND from his reflection: Midoriya. I love it. Also an added point that about the segment about how Shigaraki was not saved - it's even ILLEGAL to use your quirk unless you have a licence in this world. This means that all of the people who don't help him are scared that they will end up in prison by helping this child if they need to use their quirk to do this. Shigaraki winning over the Liberation Front is so important to me for this reason, as well as the Gentle arc. What The Liberation Front fight against is what CREATED Shigaraki. And what created Gentle is what could have happened to any of those people who met Tenko that day, had they helped, and what they decided to avoid.
@@dreamdesk7258 We now have to realize that this is a world that has still not done healing in the wake of the chaos and societal collapse due to the advent of quirks.
@@dreamdesk7258 The government of Japan in BnHA put these restrictive laws in order as a reaction to the anarchy that came about due to the apperance of quirks. But they went overboard and it is doing more harm than good to society beneath the surface, as represented by Shigaraki.
Most People: *Waiting for any form of conformation that Dabi is a Todoroki* Me: *Waiting for the day that All For One tells Tomura "I'm proud of you."*
I'm so pissed that he isn't the final villain of this series. His character evolved for literally nothing aside than looking hot while he is a meat puppet, i guess.
he still might be tbh. thats probably why they havent just made him 100% after all this time, especially with him being at 98% for so long and the S&S confrontation showing his childhood home again. Its possible that shigaraki can still liberate himself again, as after all, he rejects afo every time every time we see him now. whether that's setup for him setting himself free, setup for him ultimately being wasted and overwritten or for deku to save and reform is i guess completely up to each reader to speculate until any are confirmed. But even if you dont have any faith in where the author decides to take it, it's still too early to say anything concrete about him right?
You know, in classic hero's journey, the only growth we see is on the hero's side. So you made a great point here. If the thing that defeats villains in that classic journey is the hero's growth, *what do you do against an evolving villain?*
Shigaraki has recently grown to be one of my favourite villains in Shonen and manga as a whole, and it’s really refreshing to see some deep dive into MHA, narratively and thematically, not just shitting on it as “Normie trash” or writing it off as wannabe One Piece.
This guy started out as an edgy "Nothing personel" kid, and now he's at the level of the Green Goblin. I remember when my friends and I said he was a terrible villain
He literally is Green goblin. The exact opposite of the protaganist, but yet SO similar.... Horikoshi is a spider-man fan, and this was just brilliant. Making a GREAT green goblin like character, but also creating anime thanos.
Absolute masterpiece. This is basically the Mr.Morj equivalent of MHA. Izuku vs Tomura is not just a good vs. bad, it is a clash of ideals. Their clash will create a new society. I really want Tomura to break down and crumble what the word “hero” and “villain”. So much so that it’s use must be retired entirely. Izuku will see things from Tomura’s perspective. Right now he just views him as evil, a bad guy. What he doesn’t know that Tomura didn’t choose this life. He was born into it, his quirk is only a representation of who he is as a person. His personality is founded upon that. Izuku will relate to Shigaraki, for he once was an outsider. He was born quirkless, an outsider looking in. This is even more evident when you see Midoriya as a child watching All Might from his computer. Then when he first witness a hero situation (the shit that happens in the beginning I don’t remember) and chooses to act on it, then is he thrusted into the hero life. This parallels Tomura’s upbringing as he was not wanted by anyone and then thrusted into the villain life when All for One took him in. Izuku will realize that the once idolized and remarkable hero society is not sustainable. That this “utopia” of a world has flaws. That it was this hero society that birth Shigaraki in the first place. I’m assuming this is when the realization comes toward Izuku and the reader. Also I just wanted to mention that anyone living in the U.S. can relate to this given the recent events regarding the state of African Americans. BTW if none of this happens I will be very disappointed. This kind of non-diegetic story telling is the shit that I live for in manga. Which is why I love watching videos like this, and Mr.Morj in general. (Mr.Morj is a master analyst of One Piece for anyone wondering)
@@mouses_HK What "underrated comment"? if all this comments in this section are saying the same thing "this video is a masterpiece" "shigaraki is amastepiece best shonen villain" "long speech about a personal subjective glorification of this character" etc.
@@helloramos5805 It's not underrated anymore smh. It was at like 2 likes when I first found it. Don't you know that likes increase? Also do you know how to read? Look at the date of my reply.
@@helloramos5805 What do you think would be in the comments btw? if this video is talking about how Shigarakis character is amazing, why would you think some people would be talking about some random ass shit like, "Walugi is better", like wtf? What do you expect my guy?
Phenomenal analysis. Shigaraki is one of the best written antagonists of any story I’ve ever seen, and you perfectly encapsulated both the essence and importance of his character. I’ll revisit this once the My Villain Academia arc gets animated and this video blows up ;)
Mihajlo Milisavljević 8-1 i have :) Meruem, Gus from BB, fucking Voldemort, all great. This is just as great too. He’s a character with depth and charisma, like all good villains. Don’t see why you have to be so hateful :/
@@ohuan. Every villain you have just mentioned is at least 5 times better than him lol. He has no depth, his daddy abused him boohoo now he's gonna destroy everything. His backstory is just a desperate excuse, a weak little string attached to the fact he basically gave up on his goal and just became a destruction craving bastard.
He also is in many ways a dark reimagining of Horikoshi's Protagonist from his original one-shot Manga who was also named Tenko: there the protagonist was a white-haired boy who hated war and violence and had the power to destroy weapons and armor by touching them with his hands.
i am forever grateful there are youtubers like you who see the series for its amazing writing and choose to make content highlighting it, especially since it’s way more popular to blindly hate on mha bc “haha mha bad give me views.” also, i’ve been subbed for a while and i think this is one of the best videos you’ve done on this channel, i can tell you spent a lot of time on this and it paid off. thank you so much
Mid, Cliche not specifically him, it’s just popular to hate on mha and most people reduce it to just generic shounen without a second thought, but regarding nux yeah his deku video was atrocious lmao, but if you take that guy seriously you’re fighting an uphill battle so i just ignore him
Adm1ralDoom Nux’s video was actually a pretty damn good critique of Deku’s character once you get past him being an obnoxious asshole. Also, he was kinda right about MHA fans being pretty salty.
@@megashark1013 I can see the point of view in the video with some aspects, though I disagree with most. The major thing about it is that he misunderstands how Deku's character thematically fits the series for example better than Mirio. So the basis for a lot of it is completely off the mark.
As an aspiring writer: My God is my road ahead going to be long. The fact that you can pick up on all these subtleties, character moments, and parallels, and the fact that Hirokoshi could even think about them in the first place. It's incredible. I've been really really enjoying Shigaraki lately, but I couldn't quite tell you why if you were to ask. But you've just perfectly laid it out for me.
Saw on Twitter about the overabundance of hate comments, just thought I'd add that you seem like a really cool guy and that I love all of your videos Ocean Man
I didn't like Shigaraki for the longest but goddamn has he been going hard since villain arc for me. Love the dude now. Backstory fixed it for me but everything else was a bonus.
i think my favourite subtle thematic element is that, starting in the flashback in the overhaul arc where shigaraki dispatches the league, horikoshi started drawing shigaraki as if his hair is glowing a soft, pale white. historically, this type of imagery would be called "a glory", or "the glory". asian cultures usually represent it as golden light or an aura of fire around the head and shoulders, while europeans went with a solar disc behind the person's head, as if they were illuminated by some star within their own mind. the tradition of the glory has since evolved into a new form though. we call it a halo. shigaraki, beatific with his hair glowing a soft white and a gentle smile on his face, reaching out to you to draw you up to his level, telling you he trusts you and will protect what you love. and the moment you take his hand, you die, screaming in agony.
Thing is though, that physical trait is not uncommon. Griffith from Berserk is light haired. Shougo Makashima from Psycho pass is light haired. The first true antagonistic group in BC is almost entirely light haired, especially its not-entirely-human individuals. I mean, true, you never said it was a thing unique to BNHA, and that doesn't take away from the beautiful irony of that part of his design... I just figured I might mention that anime seems to do that often. Along with some Western fiction. I mean, Nyra, from Legends of the Guardians: Owls of Ga'Hoole is a white owl, just with red markings. Grindelwald from Fantastic Beasts and Were to Find them: Crimes of Grindelwald is light haired. Shen from Kung Fu Panda 2 is a white peafowl. They all gather followers and they're not above causing suffering to build a certain society.
@@hungry_khid1007 I feel like most of them would be able to become the protaganist but we need Deku as it or else everything will just feel like Filler. Deku always stands out of all the main characters in MHA. It's just a shame thaat Deku becomes the "greates hero". What does that mean? The number 1? I mean if it's the greatest hero it should mean your number 1, but in Dekus mind he has to become the next symbol of peace, and his goal is to make the whole world a brighter place. But you don't have to be number 1 to do that. Unless Deku becomes the number 1 hero BY DOING THAT then it would make sense. But while doing it I cannot see happening.
This all crumbles if you just take the time to think about how AFO ruled before All Might bodied him. Cool story beats but ultimately this is just AFO's way to take back got was taken from him. I acknowledge the date this was posted and it's just unfortunate how the story has taken shape to today
Mans is back after countless chapters and he really said ‘now what? You think this is somehow better?? After all I’m your villain, hero.” FUCK ME I LOVE ME SOME SHIGARAKI
I can see how a lot of people are complaining how Shiggy's still basically a manchild who has everything handed to him, but in my opinion, that's what makes him terrifying. Imagine giving a kid with some malicious intent a gun with unlimited ammo. He may not have the deepest of motives or ideals when compared to other villains, but because of that, it makes him more of an unhinged thing that needs to be stopped. Not every villain has to be some philosopher with a profound view of the world, they can have a simple goal too
Shiggy being a manchild is the whole point of his character too and a key part of him. Yeah he makes a lot of strides from USJ to where he is now, but his pettiness and childish behavior make up who he is still. It's just more dangerous because he now has the power to actually destroy shit when hhe wants to.
Honestly a lot of villains motives are very shallow and stupid if you think about it. Also, the whole being handed thing is a dumb argument that I wish would go away.
Rice Cream Man Can I just say that Shigaraki’s man child behavior is just every villains behavior if you look at them for what they really are. Like Pain.
Remember when Shigaraki talked with Deku in the mall about Stain? He said smt like "but we are not so different, both of us just want to destroy what we hate". He sees villains like Stain and the people who follow them (but hate Shigaraki) as hypocrites, because both of them are the same, people who destroy what they hate, and yet, they despise Shigaraki for that, while Stain disguises his hatred behind the reasons he claims to have (but at the the same time, he is willing to kill children).
What I love about current HeroAca is how it became through build-up into a tangled web of complex characters with their own stories and struggles but all interconnected serving the greater themes of the story. Endeavor is another example and I cannot wait to see where his arc goes, and I would love to see you doing a video on him once his story is more or less complete. Shigaraki is the product of the eternal cycle of influence good and evil have on each other but also of a complacient society that relegated all of its problems into their spandex saviors, without taking any personal responsibility for them. The term "victim of society" is often thrown around to justify the unjustifiable but it is neccessary to ask ourselves the hard questions and wonder how much are we responsible for our monsters. This series is more thematically layered than people give it credit for and so it pains me when they bash it. This essay IMO is a masterpiece.
DUDE.......... This video is A M A Z I N G, i bet that it was a huge effort to create this but seriously.... it is incredible and it was worth it. This is just another example of why a love your content so much and im looking forward to your future Analisis. Im so glad that you of all RU-vidrs were the one that talked about how much of a Great Character Tomura is, because seriously...... there is still a lot of people out there who thinks that Shigaraki is still no Big Deal. And also..... can you please tell the name of the song played in the minute 24:40??
also the song immediately after it (at 25:25) is also from the same games when you fight the legendary pokemon of the game, just thought it was cool he put those two back to back :)
Every time I come back to watch this video, it has a new thumbnail. I'm not bothered by it or anything, I just think it's pretty neat that you come back every so often to change it.
Okay so three years later this is still peak analysis!! I absolutely love this essay. It brings the heat. I frequently come back to enjoy your rhetoric. Great job!
wow this was awesome, I think this was the best MHA video I've ever seen. I haven't thought this deeply about the story and Shigaraki but everything makes sense. I feel so bad for the people who think MHA is just another overhyped shounen series. Horikoshi clearly has planned a lot and has a lot to say in his story.
As sad as it is, with oceaniz’s most recent video on how mha’s story has fallen apart, I can’t help but imagine clown music playing in the background when he talks about how this was just “the middle point of the story”, like there’s no way he could’ve foreseen that but it’s still hilarious how mha seemed determined to shred its own dignity to pieces the moment it hit its peak
@@nv5116 right? They all have a reason to be who they are now. Twice has personality issues and since most people don't accept mentally unstable people, he chose the LOV who accepted him as a teammate. Big Sis Magne, as you know, is a trans woman I think. And none of the villains pronounced her as a he (except for Chisaki's slaves) This really made me like the villains over some heroes. I also really hope that they might change in a good way and maybe get even with heroes? Which seems really impossible but, have you seen the theory video that Shigaraki would kill AFO after hearing Nana's story, All Might apologising him and learn that they are connected? God it really hypes me
Generally, when Nux Taku criticizes anything, he does it as an elitist asshole who thinks that if it's not one piece, it's trash. Masked man just went along with him for the views. A better RU-vidr to watch is gigguk, because he has good things to say about everything, and is almost always right
The parallelism and thematic significance contrasting Shigaraki with Eri should not be forgotten either. Even down to their character design-white hair. For Eri, someone with a quirk as destructive as Shigaraki, and having been told by others of her inherent destructive nature, was saved because someone-a single person-had reached out to her. But Shigaraki was never offered this option until AFO did so. If we combine this with the recent reveal of Hawks’ backstory, we see that he had every opportunity and the perfect circumstance to turn down a path of villainy, yet it was the single circumstance of being saved (albeit by Endeavor), being encouraged by his mother to strive to embody the strength of that doll she gave him, and eventually saving others with that resolve that changed his life forever. It’s just so incredibly beautiful how so many character and story arcs weave together in the narrative, and you did an incredible job with this video.
I'm fucking wheezing watching this video after Shigaraki was pretty much turned into a meat puppet. Horikoshi must have watched this video and thought "yeah, nah man, shiggy a victim bro, AFO the main villain".
Excellent analysis on skigaraki. You even covered somethings i never realize about the series,which made me appreciation it more.But for real.This the type of writing i can take inspiration on.Just like you said,this is only the half way point of the series and make me excited for what comes next. Horik really knows his stuff. Despite using a concept that was already done before,he still manage to create well thought out,well written,well constructed and a original (and amazing) story. If the series keeps up this level of consistency,the series could reach up to the level of hxh,fullmetal alchemist and attack on titan
I always liked Shigaraki when I first watched the show. I thought he was a funny hokey villain. But the growth he’s gone through makes him one of my favorite characters from any media. God I love him
It just blows me away that even the speech bubbles changed. That's how big this man changed. That tiny little detail right there is why I love the Manga.
Shigaraki is undoubtedly my favorite villain ever for how well-written and developed he is throughout the story of BNHA. And somehow you were able to hit ALL THE POINTS that make him my fave, AND THEN SOME. I SWEAR THE NUMBER OF TIMES I HAD TO PAUSE THE VIDEO BC OF AN EPIPHANY YOU GAVE ME- I WAS JUST IN CONSTANT AWE. THIS WAS AN INSANELY WELL-MADE VIDEO AND I APPLAUD YOU.
From a purely evil standpoint, I think AFO is the better villain. I consider him to be the perfect "villain". However, Shigaraki does have many qualities that do make him better in some ways. His backstory is perfect and he has every reason to be the villain he is. And unlike AFO, he has character development.
After watching season 5 and seeing this character fully realised on screen I'm so hyped for Shigaraki like I thought he was boring at first but now I realise what an excellently written villain he is and I'm so hyped for season 6 because of this
This video not only receives the award for my favorite RU-vid video ever, but it also let me see Shigarki in a way that just makes me admire how much thought was put into his character. I love you, Shigarki! 💗
I keep coming back to this, because I love Shigaraki so much, because this is so well articulated, and because so many people don’t realize how amazing of a character he is
I fucking love what Shiggy has evolved into. He doesn't try to use a form of purpose as way to justify what he did unlike Stain or Overhaul and in a way he may very much be a unwanted cure for the festering cancer that is current Hero Society. Not a cure they want but one they NEED.
Well now afer SO MANY chapters Shigaraki comes back with a Vengance and outsmarts the All For One Vestige from the inside, So now FINALLY Shigaraki himself is FINALLY BACK...for now but regardless FINALLY THE REAL FINAL VILLAIN IS HERE AGAIN! LOVE ME SHIGARAKI RETURN!
Glad to see you talk about him. Your analysis are always entertaining and He’s my second favorite character only losing to All Might. This did my boy justice
This is why shigaraki is such a great villian,amazing video. horikoshi dedicates arcs for shigaraki and gives him just as much depth and character as deku,less like a villian and more like 2 protagonists with colliding wills, i don't know which one i want to win weiredly enough lol
@@jeffali5157 ye.... It makes me so pissed and sad how its going down, rn we are all just taking what we can get if you know what I mean, im still kinda interest to see how the fight will go though
@@drewsipherthehedgehog388 I pretty much gave up on the series, aside from the artwork and the Todoroki plotline, everything else has been screwed up in one form or another to the point where I dropped the series
@@drewsipherthehedgehog388 yep, sadly at the beginning it was more of a mixed bag on quality but still had many chances and potential and yet bit by bit it crumbled and the second half of the VH arc and beyond for the most part just fell apart.
This video is without a doubt beautiful. It has to be one of my favorite analyses and explanations to a character. After reading the manga, Shiggy hands down became my favorite character and your video just reminded me why and made me love his character even more. I think BNHA is beautifully written and am obsessed with the symbolism and parallelism that you have talked about. Ironically, I was like mentally working an OC for BNHA- and when I work on OCs, despite my crush on Iida, focus a lot on how they can help the plot, what they could represent on an alternative path and how they help characters grow. Your video really helped me put that character in a whole new perspective and just made me feel so excited. The OC I made is supposed to represent the third social stereotype in hero society: a civilian. Midoryia is the Hero- the good guy who always does what’s right, and leaves positive impacts on everyone he meets and can understand why bad guys end up the way he is. Shigariki is our monster- a result of all the flaws of society as you have mentioned who impacts people in a totally different way. The OC is the civilian- or in this case a teenage girl who wants to leave a lasting change on the world but due to being quirkless knows she can only do it by pursuing a career in a political aspect. This character isn’t blind to the flaws in society but her take on the opening line “All men were not created equal” is different. She believes all men were created equal, but that all men were taught to not treat others as equal. She never wanted to be a hero, but she always wanted to make change and change the world. Her way of changing society is a much more ‘American’ political advocating way in terms of her social reform project labeled “The Renaissance Project”. A big part of her belief system is that there is a balance in the world- you can’t have destruction without creation and that’s what makes it so beautiful but *spoilers for manga* the loss of civilian death is pointless, in terms of what Shiggy is doing. She agrees with both Midoryia and Shiggy. With what you said about the league and how they could be revolutionaries but their pain and suffering prevents them from doing so is kinda exactly what this character is. She was bullied for being quirkless but like Midoryia had this strong sense of hope and determination and stable family support. She knows pain and suffering but knows she shouldn’t let her control it and an issue she is concerned about is the fact that both Shiggy and Midoryia are technically puppets to the ridiculous brother feud between AFO/OFA. Because I couldn’t help myself, her character came to me from the mysteries of OFA and the darkness it may hold. And I wondered in some bizarre scenario where OFA had a kid and that kid had a kid and so on until we got this character. This character is blood linked to AFO/OFA but separated from the conflict between them. I never realized the parallel I made when I imagined her introduction scene: She’s walking down the street on the phone, on her way home from her internship at a quirk therapy base. As she is walking home she hears crying and notices it coming from a little boy in the alleyway who has a quirk he’s afraid of. It’s a destructive quirk that has unintentionally hurt his family so he felt like he had to run away. The girl, because she is educated on quirk therapy and works toward ways to fix it and improve it, manages to calm him down, give him gloves and then smiles, offering him her hand. I never realized that when imaging this scene it is a similar and almost direct play out to how AFO took Shiggy in, and how the irony is that here is someone who is directly related to AFO, saving a kid like Tenko, but with different intentions than AFO. She just wants to help him. I also realized the parallels between Shiggy and Eri and their meetings with their saviors- both in an alley way with two young people scared and ending up idolizing the people who saved them. This character, in a sense, represents mortality. She is empathic and compassionate- a little naive, but she has this anger and hate and passion mixed with it. She believes the labels ‘heroes’ and ‘villains’ are stupid because at the end of the day we are all human and none of us can achieve perfection or pure evilness. She also takes note on AFO’s god complex and how because he gained some form of immorality he stopped viewing himself as human or mortal. I know the talk of My OC probably wasn’t that interesting or relevant but I just wanted to share it because your video helped me understand how to make her character better- I probably won’t do anything with her but I do think it’s important to keep on expanding the skill of writing complex and real characters. This video gave me chills and it’s amazing and inspiring how well written BNHA is. And watching this will help me a lot on understanding my essay topic on Monday so thank you 😂
Damn, I would definitely read if you made a fanfiction including this character. I love how you designed the character's personality with the ideals of the two sides, and she isn't any of them. I wish I had a character developing talent like yours. The way you made the story similar to Tenko's/Tomura's but in a good way, was really interesting and made me say "damn what if Tenko got help?" *Manga Spoilers* Also I saw a theory where it says that Shigaraki will kill AFO after hearing about Nana's death. In the video they said, All Might would apologise to Shigaraki for not noticing him anytime sooner before he dies. Shigaraki learns that Nana Shimura was killed by his own master, AFO and the man he wanted to kill was emotionally related to his grandma. This gave me hope that Shigaraki wouldn't end it all with killing everybody. But would be the one ending the one who started it all. So that maybe he doesn't end up killing everybody, just leaving as the strongest character. Sorry this had Manga spoilers around chapter 290
@@sketchysim5351 1. I’ve been thinking of making a legit fanfic, but signing up for sites is hard lol, and thanks for the support. When making my characters and stories I always try to aim for something that will get other people to think. And honestly, Shiggy will kill AFO, if AFO, the quirk, doesn’t kill him first. He clearly doesn’t realize the fact that AFO had Nana’s hand after he killed her years prior to finding Tenko is really suspicious and raises the question if AFO was planning it the whole time. As long as he has AFO, Shiggy can never truly be free. And dw about spoilers I’ve been reading the manga and anticipating leaks/ chapter releases for a while!