Despite it's appearance, One Piece tackles a lot more philosophies well. Than most anime who take themselves way more seriously, glad you guys started digging into this.
He was technically correct (the best kind of correct). That is how you would say the name in English, which is why I was surprised they didn’t in the dub, especially considering how meh 4Kids was. While I don’t mind surname first or given name first, it initially bothered me that Newgate and Teach had typical given names as their surnames suggesting their names are backwards no matter which way you say it. But after a few hundred episodes you kind of forget about the name order entirely.
I'd really love to see what y'all think about the series as a whole. I think the point your making here has been a pretty consistent point for the series, but it'd be interesting to see if you think it's been consistent or changed over time. I feel like an important piece of context for the series is that it has matured a lot over time since it began in 1999.
@@therealjp5480 i don't think he meant the animation when he said matured, rather it's quite obvious that he's talking about the philosophy behind the story, and that is something that matured a lot compared to what the guy managed to cover with this video.
Probably won’t get noticed, but I just wanted to say thanks to you and the rest of the Wisecrack team. I’m not quite sure how, but you guys often talk about exactly what I’ve been stressing with the week before, and I wanted to express how much you have helped me sort through my own mind. Thank you again:)
OP is obviously in large part about freedom, but even with that assumption, the ocean and planet both hinder seafarers within the story (at least within the grand line). Navigators are forced to travel by a predetermined route influenced by the polarities of nearby islands. It then takes time for the compass to reset itself, which in some cases can be literal years. There are compasses that are permanently fixed to a specific island, but these seem to be few and far between. Likely, the World Government knows how to produce those, just as they have other advanced tech to travel that isn't available to the everyday pirate. However, I think by the end of the story, it's likely these limitations will be alleviated.
Slight disagree yes the islands have a pole that help you navigate through the grandline but you do not HAVE to go to those places its suggested to travel the way they do cause the waters are vast and dangerous if you are a free person you could technically ignore the advice n tools given to you to travel through it just would not be the most beneficial way to do it. All that to say its still freedom of choice to do as you please they jist chose to go the safer/ish route
@@dweblinveltz5035 facts and it would be ya freedom to do so. Would just be suicidal. Unless your the mc in which case things would just work out in ya favor lol
@@Ldarkkratos I'm going by the assumption that the characters want to live and are therefore NOT free to travel without log poses. I'm not even sure what good it does to stress the theoretical "free-ness" of dying for a dumb reason.
One of my favorite parts of the whole story is the reveal of how the World Government is basically deadlocked in a 5-way cold war with four pirate empires in the New World.
I started one piece in 2009, rewatched and reread the series time and time again, nested in the One Piece wiki for years, entered countless discussions, watched so many videos, and was subjected to so many ideas of politics and sociology in context of One Piece, and this still presented a fresh take on the series. The concept of freedom for instead of freedom off is such a powerful theme for Luffy and his dream. You can go ahead and share with us more takes on the series. There's so much more than just the philosophy of freedom. This was fun.
1. Thank you for doing this. 2. When Wano is over I would love you guys to do a philosophy video on that Arc, I think there is a lot to dive into when it comes to the themes of War, Hunger, and Power.
Let's see, just from a philosophical standpoint, the Wano video would cover Bushido stoicism, totalitarianism, Robinhood-esque altruism, and pure anarchy, all in contrast to Luffy's style of social liberation.
@@NotInTheFace111 And for the lack of a better term, familial/generational sin. Where one member of the family does a crime, everyone else in the lineage gets punished unjustly.
So we are in a time where even Wano has philosophy ? Lmfao Ik that he's trying his best to get views from the most braindead fandom but if he ever does a "philosophical" video on Wano then it would definitely be a disrespect to what the word philosophy means lol
@@khalil6506Dude, there's so much philosophical talk that could be started around smile fruit and the ability to express negative emotions; Yamato and identity; Kanjuro and the performance of life; opening Wano and the philosophy of globalization; just to name a few angles.
Started watching a little over a month ago and I'm at episode 405. So many laughs and tearful moments. These stories are great and if I could place themes it would be: - Honour. - How the truth is complicated. - Friendship first and always. - Public and personal. perception. - Societal evils are hard to change but easy to identify. - Enemies, and enemies closer than friends. - Humility to not be arrogant, and humility for when to ask for help. - Whether you're a pirate, or a marine, be good. Just be good.
I literally can't comprehend how there is a subsection of people who watch this show but don't acknowledge the political themes in the show. Like dude the entire basis of this shows society is to cater to the whems of extreme authoritarian fascists upperclass and the industrial military complex they control.
Well it's easy to ignore because Luffy is such a carefree character and he himself doesn't think too much about what he's doing, he just helps his friends and that's it. Oda is a freaking genius in managing the series tone, he's absolutely aware that he's writting for kids and teenagers mainly, so he keeps the political themes there, but in a very subtle way for older fans to appreciate, and younger fans can ignore them and still enjoy the show 100%.
Its the "freedom for" that I've always liked about OP and how they are able to be flexible with where they stand while Luffy is able to understand the root of most issues the people he befriends along the way face and the perfect way to help them while also not taking any major ideological or moral stance and just enjoying his journey across the sea with his nakama
I'd love if you did an episode on the Skypea Arc. There is a lot to bite on! * Religion vc Science * The nature of conflict * The value of the land and ownership over it. * The whole thing with Legacy and How we relate to our ancestors. Just, SO MUCH!
FINALLY it's One Piece! Can we talk about the extreme comformity of Japanese society and that conformity driving people to create a world of freedom in manga? The split personality even influenced the removal of 敬語 from manga conversations, making the dialogues simple and child-like. And of course, the very creation of such excapism smooths the mind and reinforces the very conformity of Japanese to their rigid society.
@@zaczane There's no solid theoretical foundation of my claim to be honest. It's more of a cliche I suppose. But if you take a little look at the Japanese media landscape, expecially Shonen manga, their actual audience demographic, and compare that to the conducts of adults in the likes of Shin'ya Shokudō mangas, the abosolute necessity to 空気を読む (kūki o yomu), that's to read the air in EVERY SINGLE SOCIAL OCCASSION. I really don't think it's a stretch to say escapism in readings and mangas help people cope with the daily grind of conformity.
@@偉享林 oh okay. Your not saying it reinforces society to conform. B it merely it makes it easier by allows release from conformity through escapism. I’ve never been to japan, so I can’t say for sure, but from what I do know, that seems like a logical stance. Which is actually interesting because I’d argue(at least for some) in the US it’s Opposite. Escapism provides people with something to strive for, thus we conform Less.
Very interesting take, never quite heard it put quite this way but I definitely agree. I would love to see you guys do another video with context of the more recent arcs like Dressrosa, Whole Cake Island, & Wano.
I think if anything, these concepts they talked about in the video have grown bigger in these last few arcs. Luffy has been bringing freedom and happiness wherever he goes for a while, and the world is getting behind him.
The scale of conflicts just grown bigger with the world government puppeting being a big part in the localized conflicts that happens The analysis in the video is just as valid, if not even more correct
@@bajiraosingham9495 People said that almost 5 years ago, and Wano went on longer than Oda anticipated. I'm totally gonna die before they find the One Piece lol.
No it's not? The strawhats don't have a philosophy of "doing the right thing". They don't have a sense of justice or fight for whats "morally" correct. They fight for their own beliefs and doing what they want.
Makes you wonder what happens then when some who belives in a different set of "right things" encounter Luffy's crew. Are you gonna tell them they're wrong? Are you gonna disregard their esperiences which are as valid as yours? Are you gonna then use force to impose your world view? If yes to any , then what do you thin the World Government is doing? Funny how it all unravels huh?
Interesting take on One Piece, there is so much to talk about and you bring in a different perspective on this amazing story that hasn’t been discussed yet
I’m happy this was done as “Philosophy of” and not “Deep or Dumb.” It could easily have been a throwaway video to get quick views/clicks, but instead was a true to form breakdown of an overlooked nuance relating to “do the right thing.” The communities are often seemingly “at the mercy” of the rulers or invaders, etc, but when operating in a system of law/govt/rule the notion kf tearing down a system or existing culture can be difficult to swallow. Garp and Sengoku are good examples for the Marine side of this, as they heartedly disagree with the Celestial Dragons, but fought for and continue to serve that system. They aren’t capable to switch to the “psychic nomadism” you discussed. Wonderfully done, so much more to explore, and longtime fan of your channel. Keep up the great work.
Obviously about freedom. Literally why I’ve always loved the show. Everyone is a slave to something. And everyone’s true existential yearning is freedom in a vague way. All encompassing concept, all encompassing show- SIMPLE
i’ve been reading one piece since the 90’s and it was really fun to hear your thoughts on the story philosophy’s. It would be awesome to see your thoughts on some of the more recent story revolutions :)
@@xohaib1316 my man there are over 1000 episodes of the anime, and i’ll be straight with you i have not watched all of it, i’m sorry i cannot give you an exhaustive list of the differences, just that what i’ve seen, barring filler, has been pretty close to the source material.
@@xohaib1316 the only differences are censoring of blood and rarely some dialogue , and the pacing of anime is slow in some arcs , except that it is exactly scene to scene remake of manga in canon episode with rare fillers
I watched all 1017 episodes that came out till today and I can say that for me, without a doubt, one piece is the greatest STORY ever told. Maybe not the best anime ever, as it has its problem with pacing and art style (not dissing Oda-sama, the manga is stellar, but parts of the anime were visually kind of stale) but everything that makes a story, as in characters, world building, narrative and so on, it is unmatched in all of human history, because it manages to combine the huge emotional impact of long-term storytelling with a fully planned and coherent story that you will never see somewhere else over such a long time. One Piece is a masterpiece and the life work of a genius, a work of pure dedication and love for the medium, and something like it was never seen before and will likely never be seen again.
Whilst I think your comment is a bit hyperbolic and exaggerated, I definitely agree that One Piece is an amazing story and a unique feat of storytelling across any medium. I’m with you when you say it’s unmatched and will likely never happen again. Not before, not after. The fact that one person has written - and drawn! - a continuous narrative week by week for over 20 years whilst not just remaining relevant, but consistently being in the top 3 bestselling manga year after is truly incredible. Literary scholars would be foolish and arrogant to overlook it. It is a total masterclass in storytelling. Nobody does foreshadowing better
You're definitely on to something there. One could also say that OP also comments on what qualities a ruler needs to possess, since Luffy several times has coached would be rulers, only helping them after they understood the lesson he was teaching. Machiavelli maybe?
I definitely wouldn’t call Luffy Machiavellian. He just has certain applications of direct empathy. He mostly wants people to fight for what they actually care about, and if they align with his enough, he seriously wants them on his crew. If your looking for a platform that the narrative endorses more explicitly, Mr Morj broke it down s bit: m.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uJZn7Qfmc2U.html
Definitely a lot of stories can be told of One Piece. One of which could revolve around the idea of what’s been happening lately involving… Joy. Definitely wouldn’t mind revisiting One Piece as a topic in the future.
Ok, that's the first time someone makes me want to watch OP. Great video! Just a heads up, I think maybe it would be good to make it clear that you are talking about the modern idealized/romanticized pirate and nomad. Because in the real world that idea doesn't hold so well, pirates were commonly hired by authoritarian states, and nomads commonly had strict social norms and hard traditions.
You’re thinking Privateers, which they address with the Shichibukai. The Anime takes 2-3 Months of commitment at least so I definitely recommend reading the Manga and maybe using One Pace while you’re at it as a complimentary.
To be fair there is both factual representations of the pirates and nomads if u really search, the idealistic and the…strict(for a lack of a better word) , the term pirate go even back to old egypt so is an old concept but the famous pirates 🏴☠️ start and develop in a fascinating way, they literally have democracy… i could write a lot if u don’t know about that go search it, it’s pretty cool, I agree in what u said tho but there are exceptions. And about nomads the Mongols…and I mean I know they have a bad rep and kill 60 million so it kind of goes against but they allow any idealistic choices (religion) unlike many agriculture societies, built and protected the biggest road of the era that allow Europe and Asia to connect and grow etc, the only people they go Hard were the traitors iirc Genghis Khan biggest kill was when one of the country he send messengers for peace kill the messengers and one of them was his family or something and he kill all the city. So yeah . The Scythians were other nomadic people that was important pre Alexander iirc.
@@deismaccountant I think the anime for the first 300 (maybe 500 episodes) is very good, so I disagree with recommending to read the manga instead of watching the anime. I also question your phrasing of One Piece as a time commitment, because I think you can enjoy One Piece as an endless adventure which you don't need to experience the resolution of.
@@apoptosisduellinks109 I guess so. I just remember the Dressrosa dip in animation quality as not so fond to the material. As well as not being able to put the series down before that so I wound up watching 10 episodes a day to the frustration of everyone around me.
I do find the conflict between freedom and control is a consistent theme in the series, as each character has their own philosophy regarding each of those two topics. If anything you could get a lot of material from One Piece as it encompasses so many genres and so many stories that spring from that conflict of freedom vs control.
1) great job not pushing too many spoilers while getting the gist of this. That musta been hard. 2)Thank you for introducing the term psychic nomad to our family! What a great way to explain how the crew’s moral flexibility and freedom for vibe. 3) the beard is workin!
An interesting treatment... I'm reminded of a scene in one of the early-ish episodes where the crew land on a rather urbanized island, get in a fight with some Marines, and then find themselves pursued by an angry mob of the locals - prompting Luffy to casually remark that he'd forgotten that the Marines are supposed to be the 'good guys' in the eyes of the civilian population, while pirates are evil criminals. The way those citizens - who had not seen the laundry-list of abuses and corruption that WE had seen the Marines engage in - leapt to their defense kind of reminded me of that classic US bit about how, if you think the police are there to protect you, you're probably white. In other words, those citizens were stuck with the limited perspective of their unmoving location and static lives, unable to perceive the wider view that our protagonists had seen ample proof of - namely that the Marines were the enforces of a thoroughly corrupt and abusive world order...
I'd love to see more, especially taking into account how luffys ideology evolves over time between wanting to beat arlong because he's hurting hia friend and doesn't care about the backstory to wano where he wants to free the whole country because he hates how kaido has taken away everyones freedom and replaced it with suffering.... And also because he's hurting his friend. Same ideology but slowly maturing
He’ll have to find a flag to stay under at some point, especially since he is growing up to be a political power and no longer freelance where he could do whatever he wanted.
Loved the video and from the footage you guys used and the content of the video itself, it makes me think you haven't caught up yet so I'm hoping you do cause there's still more things you can analyze and learn the deeper you get into the series. I guess what I'm saying is One Piece will be a goldmine of content for you guys so goodluck catching up lol
@@jeremycards Don't get me wrong, I've watched probably like the first hundred or so episodes in my life and gotten like 40 volumes deep into the manga (like roughly, I don't remember exactly), but this is just making me want to revisit it again even though there are like 50 other things battling for my attention. It's torturous, life's too short. Like if you've gottten as far as Brook, you're not just a normie anymore, know what I'm saying?
I know some people that caught up in a month, 2 weeks and 1 week respectively. And they all have jobs and kids. lol. If you wanna catch up it's really not that hard. but I recommend catching up when Wano is done. That arc is crazy but you'll lose your mind reading it week to week.
@@heyarnold7256 that's why I mentioned other things too, One Piece isn't the only piece of entertainment that exists. Also, no one with a job and kids and actually caught up on One Piece in a week, dude, that never happened, there literally isn't enough hours in a week to watch it all even if you don't sleep XD
This is definitely a good overview of this series' concept of Freedom, but I was definitely itching for you guys to go deeper in relation to specific parts of the OP lore. Looking forward to more videos on OP
He represents freedom and liberation. His dream is to be the pirate king because that would make him the most free individual in the world. Ever since the beginning he always tries to help people find their dreams and he isn't afraid to challenge the ruling class such as the Celestial Dragons. Luffy will always inspire the drums of rebellion and liberation in those around him. Also he's just honestly a good egg.
While it's not as well-known as some of the other series you've covered, you should definitely do a "The Philosophy of Kino's Journey"! Each episode usually covers a specific facet of human culture and society, you could easily do an entire series on it! For example, one episode is about a utopia where people no longer need to work, thanks to automation (a topic that's becoming kinda relevant these days). While this is true, in realty the citizens of the country still work, re-doing the same work that the machines do, despite that the machines can do it faster and more accurately. Why? Because although the country was technically-capable of automating their workforce, what they couldn't solve was the underlying social problems that come with automation. Work has traditionally been how society decides who should be getting how much money, but in a fully-automated society, how should wealth be distributed? A fascinating episode and only one of many!
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Each arc in One Piece focuses on a different aspect of life, e.g., tyranny, honor, ambitions and dreams, purpose, responsibility etc. The RU-vidr Super Eyepatch Wolf's videos on One Piece are pretty amazing if you haven't checked those out. Also, Michael, please check out how Deleuze is pronounced. It is nothing close to what you are saying. It's more like [dɪlˈuːz]. Thanks.
He’s speaking English not French. Such claims of authentic pronunciation are ludicrous.
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@@Liliquan your comment is more ludicrous imo. If a person who is talking about a topic in postmodern philosophy is calling Deleuze something like DeLaz, regardless of their language, they would probably be laughed at. Sorry. I'm just trying to make sure that people do not learn it incorrectly, considering how huge a reach Wisecrack has. Calling him DeLaz, to be honest, only shows how unprepared the host was during the making of this video. It signals me that he did not even watch a single video (to study his material) where Deleuze is pronounced, and he was merely reading a script. Sorry, I like Wisecrack a lot, but I found this video incredibly poorly prepared and sloppy -- both the philosophy material and the One Piece side.
Nice video. Freedom is one of the central themes that carries across the series. Some of the others being "treasure" and "inherited will", which the One Piece community would benefit if you explored them.
@@shehrlock5780 I am reading 20th century boys right now, and it‘s sooooo good. Monster is indeed also a work of his, that also has an anime adaption. It‘s also an absolute masterpiece, although one I wish I had rather read than watched. I mean the series with doctor Tenma, and Johan Liebert. What did you think?
As someone who is caught up to and still reading the Manga, I would love a deep dive. I would even recommend using an Arc as a case study, many of them have their own philosophical subtexts to them.
Luffy helps a ton of people achieve both safety and freedom. The two don't have to be opposed. Above all one piece is about fighting against authoritarian rule.
I think perhaps the most important lesson from one piece for social struggles today is how positive Luffy is while he beats up bad guys. He is fair to everyone and yet will not hesitate to give his best for anyone in need. He will fight his enemies all out but he never takes pleasure in beating someone for the sake of beating them. It's always about helping someone or ending some injustice etc. He is the embodiment of a positive rebellion for it's own sake. Something like that :D
Yeah Wisecrack reaaaaaally barely scratched the surface of one piece, felt like they treated it like some fluffy content, rather than the modern absurdist fantasy epic that it is. Lets face it, Eichiiro odas name should be spoken together with asimov or herbert or tolkien.
..d...don't ever say Luffy D. Monkey. it sounds so wrong hearing it how people outside of Japan say their names from First to Last. I never want to hear it said like that again.
Freedom is a huge theme in One Piece, but there needs to be a matching video about One Piece and death. Oda's belief, reflected in the series, that death is not the end but that being remembered and what you leave behind are your continuation is not only huge in philosophy, but something Oda lives, extra textually. Man has worked on his story more than about any creator who has ever lived, he has truly given his life for One Piece, and is actively being harmed by it. So much room to talk about that, in and out of text.
You guys really need to binge the whole series, because I'd LOVE to hear your take on the conflicting themes of Destiny vs Free Will we are currently dealing with, and I'm curious how you'd reconcile the two themes within the context of the story. Manga is obviously the fast and accurate medium to consume the story. The anime does a good job at elevating the high points of the manga with animation, sound design, and voice acting... but the pacing gets VERY rough, feeling like you're trudging through sludge for a large portion of the later arcs.
This has got to be the most unique take on One Piece I have ever seen, and from what I can see at most this man made it to Sabaody. I'm excited what other philosophies this channel can derive from the series, although I do understand that this isn't really a One Piece or even an anime-related channel so it's probably going to take a while for any One Piece content to grace this channel again. Thanks for the One Piece philosophy breakdown Wisecrack!
Hearing Luffy's name read in the traditional English way is surprisingly jarring. I'm also glad to see other people have thought about One Piece and Michel Foucault together.
