Thanks for all the comments, guys! Quick note on the English dubs: we use dubbed versions since they're much easier to edit with. They also make cutaways way easier to understand. But let's see if we can do original Japanese next time. Is that what y'all prefer?
Usually it'd be fine, but with One Punch Man the Japanese voice acting lends a lot of depth to the characters and ends up making the show a lot more than just a comedy/parody, whereas the dub is a bit rubbish and makes the characters seem a lot less nuanced and likeable than they really are.
+Ruyeman The MVC2 Demo really drove home how bad I am at fighting games, while my mom is unable to walk around in a 3D 3rd person game, she kicked my butt simply by mashing buttons! You're either have a natural ability for fighting games or you don't! Then I tried that free to play Tekken game, only match I ever won was against one of my friends when they went AFK.
One Punch man is an Online role-playing game. Saitama did the "Basic training regimen" every day for 3 years, and now his character is overpowered as shit. The other players are understandably peeved, but nobody can do anything about him because he legitimately earned that character. Things like the Deep Sea King were Events, or weekly bosses for the entire community to whittle down. Saitama got on late, and one punched the deep sea king, ending the event. That was the final straw, so the team behind the game set up the lord Boreas event, for S rank and above, with an exception for saitama, who had made his account before the class system was introduced (which is why he didn't have a rank at the beginning).
Damn that's actually impressive a theory that logically explains the non-sensical absurdity. I got to give it to you this beats the Saitama is a god theory.
Something that's really interesting on One Punchman which wasn't mentioned was how society reacts to Saitama, which I find really interesting. We, as the viewers, are able to see Saitama and what he's doing but the society isn't, which causes them to dismiss him, ignore his feats and doubt him. He's been saving lives before he became a "real hero" and yet no one knew about him, in most cases it has to do with the lack of public when he's doing these things but on the exam and the fight with the sea king we can clearly see that people can't believe that he's that strong and go with the most reasonable reaction which is to distrust him. This is what makes him relatable and makes us cheer for him, we see someone who isn't been treated justly, someone who is clearly out of everyone league and yet is distrusted and hated, someone who no one takes seriously and has the problems you've mentioned. This is why I find this series so amusing, because the author was able to find a way for us to care about a character who shouldn't have any problems at all that we shouldn't be able to relate.
I completely agree. It seems that society cannot accept the fact that someone with a power like Saitama exists, and even though they had witness what he can do, they just reject the notion, and instead treat him like a cheater, or some asshole who likes to take credits from other heroes
I find the times where saitama coming in to save the day really exciting. he has an appeal to the story that when the other main characters are struggling to fight their enemy, you get hyped up and anticipate the time Saitama one shots them. just the natural reaction was like "man, the monster was super strong, only to get swatted by this guy so fast?" you just start laughing and cheering for saitama every time this type of this happens.
My favorite thing about Saitama is that one moment when he explains his training. Those series of 100 exercises and running around, and doing that every day, that was beyond Saitama's limit. He struggled but in the end he managed to reach past those limits and he became the strongest being in the universe. On top of the fact that an interesting power system stems from it, this has really helped me on a personal level. The other characters tell Saitama that his training is basic, that it is a joke and that there's no way he attained such levels of power with just that, and while this is partially true, there is a lesson to be taken here; do not compare yourself with others, compare yourself with who you were before. Later on in the manga, we are told that the S-class hero Darkshine has also trained his muscles as hard as he could, except that the exercises he did were factually harder, using weights that should be impossible to carry, for instance. And while he did end up as a very strong being, he's still nowhere near Saitama. Saitama teaches us that the biggest victory we can possibly get is the one over ourselves. Sure, some people may do better things at a younger age, or pull off something harder, but as long as you yourself manage to overcome your own limits, you'll be able to pull off even more magnificent things. The growth you get from overcoming your own limits is more praiseable than any other achievement that anyone can ever do, because it will allow you to do things you would not have imagined.
I really love this kind of philosophy, its basically saying that were running out of problems to solve, and its getting pretty boring, yall tryna buy an island and start fresh? Im highkey down to move to space
I personally think OPM wants to show that even though you are the most powerful or rich you will still have problems one way or the other .Saitama can destroy everyone but he cannot feel anymore nor can enjoy his life because of lack of challenge he also has a normal people problems That is what I think
Leander Varma he does enjoy life his enjoyments are little becuase of his lack of effort to everything he enjoys small things like sales on shops or eating food something small like this
Most of the reviews tackle about the show's anatomy.... But I think the the author of the manga is really showing us what a true hero actually is... Saitama's contrast and similarities with other heroes is always in shown to highlight this. Although he is bored, Saitama does it for the sake of saving others. Any other reasons is just secondary to that.
Saitama's has a few conflicts, one which is to find an opponent to excite him and give him purpose and the second is to be recognized as a true hero by the masses even though he had contributed so much to society and finally to get better than C in the written exams. :-D
I think One Punch Man is actually the metaphor of stepping on a lego. You see every time when we step on a lego, we scream in pain, but Saitama doesn't scream in pain when he steps on a lego, in fact he crush that lego. The lego everyone stepped on pushes them into a pit of despair and self-loathing, Saitama steps on lego for fun, when fighting a monster should be more of a struggle for courage and maintenance of sanity in an extreme situation, Saitama just steps on them legos and crush them with ease, it shows that to him there was no lego, and godly power voids all existence even legos. Aside from this the monster also represents those legos because of the inherent accidental nature of the cosmic law of order and chaos, something out of nothing, which applies to accidental nature of the appearance of the lego in your room. So again, to recap, heroes fight monsters are like us stepping on legos, it comes out of nowhere and devastate our mental being but if you have no conscious recognition, it is likely that there was no lego to begin with and it was just an illusion, a perfect lie told by your mind to deceive your meaningless existence. My theory on the Philosophy of One Punch Man and this comment section.
Nearly didn't read it because I thought it was a simple joke, but the keep reading showed me an awesomely funny interpretation. Gotta admit you funny. XD (for what's it's worth)
I have a friend who's family is obsessed with Mortal Kombat, her parents apparently met through that shit in an arcade or some crap and I can promise you that her mom can kick your ass in MKI-XI
Hmm I feel like I remember a lot of character development in one punch man. I remember around episode 7 he gets a change in motives and I actually remember that made me feel pretty emotional lol
Imo opm can be also be viewed as a metaphor for corporate jobs or any jobs in particular.you start of with so much fire but lose it together with your hair because of the repetitiveness. Also being the best at what you do doesnt always mean you're at the top because someone is always stealing credit for your work or because you are not charismatic enough.
Great video! This was my first time hearing the dubbed version... it served as a nice reminder why I dont eatch dub lol. However, to each their own! Again, super well thought out and interesting video.
i always thought one punch man also focused on how to get strong. according to saitama, all you have to do is train, and all these guys appear with gimmicks to their strength. genos wants the secret to saitamas strength and constantly takes note of his teachings but since hes a cyborg he doesnt need to train, so he doesnt. dr genus uses science. others use transformations, weapons, and other abilities but you never really see anyone train. i think the only person i have ever seen train was tanktop master
Biggie Cheese - Yeah, it’s not feasible, but I feel like Donnie Yen is the real life One Punch Man haha. Maybe he could work for a future version of the character.
I liked the video but there is conflict in One Punch Man, there just isn't a conventional one. Saitama's conflict is internal and you can see his extreme frustration at losing when failing to beat King at video games in the manga. He also sucks at studying for the hero test. Saitama's a hero for accepting his flaws and working through them , despite his attempts to claim otherwise by pointing out his selfish and self serving desires to be a hero for fun. This is why he is appreciated so much by Munem Rider and Genos as he could easily leave them to their fates or simply not care for any reasoning of his actions but rather helps maintain the societal balance.
The only thing I disagree with in this analysis are Saitama's words to Mumen Rider after the Sea King fight. He wasn't being dismissive, he was genuinely impressed Rider took the guy on despite knowing he stood zero chance. He really meant it when he said "You should be proud."
Also let's not forget that mumen rider is honestly pretty tough and for a normal guy he really held out for longer than you would expect. Without him there the sea king might have killed many of the civilians before saitama got there...
That had a ton of catharsis for me. After watching this monster run a train on all these guys, some of who I really liked, and then even Mumen Rider. Just a dude trying to do his best and protect people. When Saitama shows up the payoff is the knowledge that this monster who was on the verge of killing everyone and beat the stuffing out of all those heroes is about to get his ass kicked.
The philosophical aspect for this show can be deep if analyzed. The manga portrays different characteristics of society, such as corruption, the best examples of corruption is the Hero Association and how they treat rankings, heroes and profit. Saitama on the other hand was just a regular guy, who attained beyond godlike power, but it came with a price. Saitama even said that he sacrificed a portion of his humanity such as emotions. This anime/manga is brilliantly written.
I think Garou and Saitama are very similar and yet complete opposites. Garou extends his abilities to new heights always working forward and getting progressively stronger. Saitama stuck in the same regimen until he became essentially god. Even their clothes and bodies are opposites of one another. Garou has large spiky hair, sharp eyes, insane body and dressed in dark colors. Meanwhile Saitama is bald, has empty eyes, wears unimpressive clothing and always just seems sorta out of it. Though I think they’re still very similar. They act as the effects of society on people and how they interpret it in their life. They strive for similar goals, though in opposing ways and act as breakdowns of the Shōnen genre differently. Garou never stops as he destroys himself physically and mentally, like the a-typical Shonen mc. Meanwhile Saitama has completed his training, doesn’t fight anymore and is for all extensive purposes, retired. They both oppose the hero association in some way. Garou actively hates and wants to kill heroes left and right. Break down society and restart it. While Saitama sort of did that. He’s surpassed EVERYONE and is just bored with his mediocre existence as without fighting anyone, he’s become a mirror of Garou’s future self. Just some guy whose done everything and surpassed the ailing system. My god this is long. Sorry. I’m sure there’s plenty I missed out. Correct me if you want or just ignore. I don’t care, really.
Mumen Rider is an amazing character. He’s just a man on a bike. He _knows_ he’s just a man on a bike. But he constantly tries to stand up to insanely powerful villains.
Dx Fire trans girls have been allowed to compete in female competitions for DECADES. And only now they are starting to win in some. How many ones have you seen in the olympics? They don’t have an advantage, since they literally get rid of the testosterone. But conservatives like to turn every situation into a hate spreading shitshow. Just like you did, this video has absolutely nothing to do with trans people, but your sheer hate of those different made you link every possible bad thing to them.
@@Kiirxas but still their muscle density is not that of a girl, imagine a girl taking testosterone for years and then quits it and says it's fair to compete with other girls, hey dipshit that's why steroids are banned in athletic competitions, do you actually believe that those muscles that have been subjected to fucking steroids are the same to that of normal ones and where tf did you get that bullshit about trans girls competing with women for decades the first case was in 1975 that's not so long ago and let's be honest here trans girls are just men with mutilated penises
I don't think Saitama congratulating Mumen Rider on his fight was supposed to sound as condescending or "anti-climactic" as it comes off in the English dub. He sounds a lot more sincere in the original. He meant it and surely envied Mumen Rider for his passion and bravery. It was actually a very profound moment which again, as others have pointed out, focused on Saitama's humanity and internal struggle.
The way that Mumen Rider fight scene plays out with the Japanese voice actors is a little different. Saitama sounds way more genuine. On top of that there's a scene in the anime where Saitama gets lunch with one of his unlikely fans. This scene promotes meaning through human connection and kindness. Despite Saitama having thrown fame out the window at the bitter end of the Mumen Rider fight, he is still able to be a good hero and make a connection with someone. I would argue that this connection's intimacy is brought by Saitama's humble attitude and refusal to take credit for his good deeds.
Saitama does seem genuine to me. His voice is just monotone but he's never really sarcastic to anybody who isnt some sort of showboating villain. He doesn't really seem to have a mean bone in his body.
Whoa. This video was deceptively edited to make it look like Saitima hit Tank Top Tiger. That was Sonic YOU COWARDS! THIS WHOLE THING IS A METAPHOR FOR THE MYTH OF SISYPHUS.
My favourite part is were satima.. Gets upset about missing a sale on saturday when hes in the middle of a fight with carnage kabuto... Not worried about how hell go on a killing spree for a full week...😂😂
Shut up....seems like you haven't watched DBZ. The Mumen rider tensity of purpose and emotion looked crap compared to that of DBZ characters. But it was short and simple....so I'll give you that.
Tetrahedron6 except humans didn't come up with it, logically superior machines did. They were at levels similar to how most religious people envision their god at that point.
XD #Truth. Honestly, I don't think we need challenges to enjoy life. Too many people think we do because of the conditioning of society. If everything were automated and all that was left for us was to have fun, we would be fine. After all minecraft's creative mode isn't hard but its still enjoyable.
Do You Know Why Most People Hate Privileged People/Kids, It's Because They Have No Conflict In Their Lives and Have Millions of Dollars and Do Not Appreciate It Or Cannot Handle Simple Problems Like How To Get Money or Build Meaningful Connections Because They Had Everything Handed To Them. This Is What Happens When There is No Conflict In Life, You Become Mute To All Good Things In Life.
The thing is... Saitama specifically wanted a good fight... he's an adrenaline junkie. So it wasn't the fact that growing too strong would be boring, but that for an adrenaline junkie, he lost all danger...
11:50 everyone seems to have over looked sitoma was the whole reason the hero league began. when genoa explains a man started the hero organization when a random hero saved his grandson 3 yrs prior it is so overlooked!!!!!!
Are we not gonna talk about the irony of making a video about the dangers of a life of comfort, then advertising a site that promotes comfort by providing access to all major streaming services in one place?
lol Marco, you are no one to discuss the hipocrisy portrayed. you happy now, or do you still need a fucking flowchart? retards, man, seems capitalism is lost in this one hahaha. Marco, are there libraries with economics books in your vicinity? I'm guessing no but there's a chance xD
It's not that there is no conflict, it's that Saitama's conflicts are all in the form of problems he can't solve with his fists, such as slander from jealous heroes, pressure from Genos to reveal a secret he doesn't have, or never receiving credit for his actions. You can't punch a viscous rumor away. No amount of brute force will make people think you aren't stealing credit from other heroes. There's no special combo that defeats personal despair. There's a conflict, and it's a serious one, but it's subtle.
Sean Dickey Actually, you can punch everyone who spreads rumors. It's hard, but doable if you do it fast enough to not spread rumors about punching people who spread rumors. It reminds me about a game Hell Yeah.
I'm sorry, but I have to disagree. I feel like you missed out on some key components. Like the conflict. Especially with the Mumen Rider scene. I don't believe it to be what you called a "dues ex machina" No, it's doesn't follow the standards of an action genre, mostly because thats not what genre it is. We expect the drama and conflict to be physical and upfront, but it isn't. It's emotional and based more subtly in the background. The drama that is built up around the Mumen Rider scene that was mentioned goes beyond the physical fight. Saitama's words to him weren't meant to be sarcastic, Saitama really was happy for his ability to continue to keep fighting even though he was struggling so hard. (And a bit jealous I might add.) Yes, we are used to the conflict being the hero winning against the big baddy, but that isn't what the conflict is based on in this situation. It's based on the people and public personas. Their feelings and opinions being swayed so easily and so very frighteningly fast. It only took one guy to turn a crowd of people just happy to be alive, into an angry mob saying that the heroes didn't do nearly enough to protect them. Saitama took that aggression and quelled it, barring the weight on his own shoulders to be hated by the common people so his friends and fellow heroes wouldn't have their names be dragged in the mud. It teaches us as the viewer that being the hero is about way more than punching hard. It's also about kindness, sacrifice, empathy, and human connections. Saitama is a hero because of this strength of character, not because he can punch hard.
Yeah, the video is half-right. The conflict with with boredom is one of many non-physical conflicts Saitama faces, tries to resolve, and succeeds only partially even after great efforts...
As I said in a previous comment, he didn't even mention the whole Tank Top Masters debacle, and that right there shows how full of nuance Saitama's actions are
loser-by-choice this comment is underrated you deserve more likes probably is the length that prevented its recognition. at least some people still really appreciate it
Thanongrit Suriyarungka This is the most lilkes I've gotten on a comment ever... But thanks man! I'm glad some people liked it at all. I just really love this show.
Yes! I so agree! This scene was hella powerful and cathartic to me! And I personally find the driving theme is questioning herodom - how we see and recognize and define "real heroes".
Personally, when the Rider stepped up to the Sea King, I already knew that he'd lose... And I was internally screaming "WHERE THE F*CK IS SAITAMA?????"... And when he got that and said the... "Good fight", I almost cried. That's because... Saitama not only gets there to save the day, he also saves the Mumem Rider while acknowledging his bravery... Just like we do. This is similar to Takamura from Hajime no Ippo, even thought it would be interesting if he would struggle, the world of One Punch Man can get so f*cked up that you honestly hope that, not only Saitama wins, but you also hope that he DESTROYS the enemies as quickly as possible, because we don't want to see the other characters (cool or lame) to die against the villain. We get to see the struggle and hopelessness in every other character in the story... And when Saitama gets there a magic moment of "THANK GOD" is one of the most rewarding feelings you can get from any kind of media.
good vid, but you kind of miss the trope that really makes one punch man so enthralling even though the action is always a foregone conclusion. it's how the show emphasizes saitama's humanity that makes the show so interesting. a lot of the time we watch the show no just for the well drawn action sequences, but because Saitama does have his own glaring conflicts throughout the show. his lack of reputation, which makes it hard for people to take him seriously. the fact that no one has ever heard of him so people like mumen rider mooch off of his success. the fact that he has a few people that know of his power, and they know he's stronger than them, but he's still outranked in the pro hero circuit by even his own disciple. he went to the pro hero test and aced the physical exam but botched the written test because he's kind of a total dweeb. and people label him as a cheater because he is so overpowered that he graduated ranks at an exponential rate, so other heroes hate him. the conflicts go deeper than just fights at face value nectar wee know how that goes. that conflict is reserved for the character development of people around Saitama. His conflicts, besides trying to find a worthy adversary, is trying to deal with the formalities of being a hero in a world of heroes.
That is an interesting observation there. There's always room for more than one interpretation. Yours makes me think of One Punch Man as something of a spin on the Superman formula.
But Saitama clearly does not care about his reputation, or status within the hero association. It's a game to him. A game to be played for fun. We, as viewers, perceive his lack of (positive) reputation as an injustice, so it is a conflict for us, as viewers - not for him.
Perry's Hotter I'm thinking that is due to reasons, that Saitama himself doesn't quite understand yet. I'm hoping that as the story progresses, Saitama will discover which values drove him to join the hero association, and make that his meaning in life. I don't like to believe that Saitama would be petty enough to care about people knowing his name, his reputation, for it's own sake. I would like to think that there is some deeper value(s) at play
I think that is where the story is eventually headed, but it is clear that for the time being, one of Saitama's primary motivations is getting public recognition. But every time he does something worthy of that recognition the plot is contrived to take it from him. I think the resolution to this conflict will be Saitama coming to accept that he doesn't need public recognition and that the respect of his friends is enough.
"it is clear that for the time being, one of Saitama's primary motivations is getting public recognition" That's not clear at all to me. I just think he wants to have fun. I suppose garnering recognition is fun to him? Like climbing a leaderboard in a video game, having your name on the top of the board? I dunno, maybe I need to watch the show a second time
Have to say I felt like this was totally off. Saitama has loads of conflict to deal with, its just none of his conflicts are physical. He deals entirely with mental issues like loneliness, boredom, being unappreciated, and trying not to mess up other heroes. These are all extremely contemporary issues for modern Japanese workers. I'm astounded that you could get this show so wrong. If you didn't see the conflict in each episode you should watch it again. There may be a monster invasion but the conflict is things like "can saitama find any meaningless crime to fix to maintain C rank?" or "can saitama save people without making the other heroes look bad?" or "can saitama be a mentor to someone when he doesn't understand where his success came from?" or frequently "can saitama be taken seriously if he doesn't look like people expect him to?" The joke is that the fights are window dressing for the real conflicts, not that there are no conflicts. If you missed these conflicts because you were buried in the pointless fights, then the show went right over your heads. Rewatch it.
I think you're the one misunderstanding. The reason he has problems like loneliness, boredom, etc, is precisely because he can solve all the "important" problems with one punch. If he had to struggle with that then he'd have reason to practice with other heroes and make friends. He'd have an unatainable goal to reach which would occupy him and give him purpose, every step towards it would be rewarding. He wouldn't have to "maintain c rank with meaningless crimes" if he was working on bettering himself. Problems like loneliness and chronic boredom are far worse than struggeling to become better at something, for example- or just being successful in life because the latter comes with rewards in success. The former cannot be alleviated if you don't have a purpose to work towards.
Daniel I agree, but these days if it's not some superficial or physical conflict it's nonexistent. And unless you can recognize or empathize with a character inner conflict then it's nonexistent.
Johnny Lindblom Pretty much this. Daniel, if you missed the point of this video because you were buried in the pointless fights, then the video went right over your head. Rewatch it.
You see, the lack of conflict (which leads to boredom) may be a difficulty to be dealt with, but it's just not a type of conflict. Saitama is set to be the strongest man in his world and he has no room of improvement in the realm of fighting, and since he identifies himself as a hero, all potential conflict as a hero simply cannot exist. Also, I don't see any evidence that he finds real interest in alleviating his solitude and boredom.
Exactly! Like In Episode 1 When He Sounded Suicidal and Depressed Like Kaido From One Piece, Looking For A Way To Kill Himself Because He Cannot Die By The Hands Of Others.
While this is all true, there is so much more going on in One Punch Man. Saitama has no heroic attitude. He does she job because it pays and because he can. He does not need the Hero Association to find a strong opponent because enemies of that level can't go unnoticed anyway. He does not see the need for the Association neither does he actually care for his rank much. That is why he sees the flaws and trials of the other heroes around him. -The Tank-Top brothers are assholes, but since they are medium to high rank heroes, they must be good guys for the people. - A meteor could have destroyed the whole city, but the heroes did not manage to make the damage = 0 so they must be good for nothings - These guys are calling themselves heroes but can't protect us against this massive sea-king-thing! How useless! Saitama sees all of this and we see it through him. People are utterly fooled by ranks and believe that the rank is all the graditude heroes deserve. In the end One Punch Man asks the question of what makes a hero. For that we have the 2 extremes of the strong Saitama who lacks the attitude and Moumen Rider who has the strong attitude but lacks the strenght.
@@francescofulghieri9608 Philosophy and Attitude are 2 different things though. Saitama goes in, defeats the monsters and leaves. He does not care for how the crowed he saves feel. When Saitama comes in to save people, for them it's not like a hero has entered ,but like a random meteorite has just crushed the monster before them. Yes, Saitama is a hero and he wants to be one, but he does not have the attitude that you would expect to come with it.
The Berserker Armor would probably just retain whatever form it had before being worn. It requires the user to get injured. Since Saitama can't really get injured, the Berserker armor can't actually do anything for him. Even the mental stuff probably wouldn't have an effect on Saitama. On the off chance that it would, then a Berserker Saitama would pretty much be an act of god.
***** Actually the Berserker Armor isn't susceptible to simple damages. If it has a major dent, it will reshape back to normal. If it got melted, again it reshape itself back. After all, this mythical suit is one of the most powerful charms that witch Flora has with its primary ability to remove pain from its wearer.
I don't think this video is wrong but it misses the themes that make this show interesting in the first place. everyone in the series wants more strength and power (saitama, genos, dr. genus, boros, tatsumaki, the sea king, king, and so on) and they talk about it a lot, which makes the parts where it doesn't come up the best. the main themes are BRAVERY, and PURPOSE. it makes for the most touching moments in easily the most ridiculous anime ever, it is seeing numen rider go against that devil and not caring if he loses what touches us, it's his unparalleled bravery, and it is saitama really really acknowledging this that kills me. the thing he said, "good job, you should be proud" sounds sarcastic, but consider that it comes from the least sarcastic guy, and the most powerful human being. it really means something, because saitama knows infinite power kills your spirit, it gives him true satisfaction to see that real heroes are still out there, not those who like to punch things, but those who are brave.
Yes, thank you! Finding purpose is a huge theme in this anime (and one reason it's so relatable). Saitama is clearly struggling to figure out where his drive comes from and genuinely respects Mumen Rider, who has passion and real courage (even being ready to sacrifice his life to spare strangers for a few moments).
@ahdan prasetyo same writer. And no... Mob psycho dont get this excited (i tried).one punch man is just... Well, i dont know how else to put it....deeper
@ahdan prasetyo there is also this giant question mark. How? How can he do that. And the trickiest part is, somewhere there inside, we actually dont want to know. We want heroes to be perfect = powerful. And saitama and the mystery, give that to us. Still, the author can only linger around that question for so long. I frickin love this show, but I am also afraid for the answer. Superman got lucky with the cryptonite, achilles and hes heels. Will saitama author take same route? Or hang the question till it dry, and oh boy will it dry. Idk, i guess for now... All we fans can do is enjoy the show.
@@firapuroki4571 what if that scientist and his clones start doing the 100 pushups situps and squats. Now he has an army of one punch men. Could be a good twist
One Punch Man is an anime we really need. Many writers should praise this show. What this show does well is the story. Saitama does everything for free, he's just a hero for fun, he's a below average intellect who's tired of tropes. When people go into a speech about their backstory, Saitama stops them. He's always worried about his next meal, not his next opponent. Notice how all his fights only last either a few seconds or just one episode? Japanese animation likes to spew backstory that lasts way longer than it should, the fights get drawn out to several episodes, the characters are all tropes, their hair color codes their personality i.e red hair male = skilled alpha male or blue hair male = weak aspiring beta male. In One Punch Man, the DUDES BALD lol!! Saitama isn't an alpha male or a beta male. He doesn't care about anything, he just tries to find joy in what he's proficient at. He's so good at what he does, he doesn't need to worry about it, he worries more about what most humans can relate to, everyday necessities, work, a home. Even his 2 minute backstory touched upon the modern social issues of Japan. That two minute flashback has better satire than most films that tries to take itself seriously. Geno's has a generic backstory but the writer doesn't make us care about it, because it's a generic story of vengeance; been there, done that, no one cares anymore. They showed us what would have happened in a generic anime and then trash it at the last moment and said "SIKE" and continued on with the theme of One Punch Man. In a show about heroism, they don't run the same formula like other shows. Anime formula: Peace - bad guy comes in - loses fight to bad guy - subplots - trains/finds weakness - beat up bad guy - rinse and repeat. In One Punch Man, Saitama kills all his opponents. Unlike other animes where a single villain has its own arc and it becomes a stale back and forth fight between the hero and villain. It's like Tom and Jerry where they constantly try to kill each other (without success) and it never comes to a conclusion. Saitama is an overpowered main character, because of that all the bigger problems that comes his way are easily solved by our protagonist. It forces the writers to be creative with the plot. To an extent, One Punch Man is a social commentary on the status of Japanese Animation, hence why they shit on everything anime has overdone. Theres a reason why many non anime watchers also love One Punch Man, it follows no trends and some people with a more cynical mindset enjoys the fact that it likes to make fun of it's own genre. I really think this show becoming a huge success can pave the way for many aspiring writers. Maybe it can give the majority of the audience an interest in much better story telling media. Instead of the rehash that constantly gets excreted from Hollywood and South Korea film industry.
By creating a new way of storytelling it ironically creates a venue for writers to find meaning, that is, hardship in terms of adventuring in new and unexplored territory. I like that :)
To the idiot who complains: He didn't write this specifically for you. By logic and sheer possibility someone is going to read it, if you aren't going to read it then it's not directed at you. Just shut up with that stupid shit. But. Very well said, Dao.
Did you see what he did to the moon by jumping? And then add the fact that calculations have shown that he was able to reach relativistic speeds by jumping... One thing is certain, this man did not skip leg day. Kick or Punch, the outcomes the same.
Seitama gets his powers from a literal interpretation of the "10,000 hour rule" and leveling mechanics from RPGs. Seitama spent every waking minute of the past 3 years training to become like his favorite superhero who could beat his enemies in one punch. So that's what he became. Likewise, the reason Mumen Rider doesn't improve is because being the best C-class hero is exactly what he wants to be. Can't level if you're not gaining XP. Dr. Genus was the same way, dedicating 50 years to uncovering and mastering the secrets of DNA and evolution before he regained his youth and cloned himself. In the first season of the anime, these are the only two characters shown to have "fire in their eyes." Other than Garou, no other character I can think of in the show gains superpowers without using some external means and the results are always imperfect. Even Genos constantly relies on upgrades from the Professor to enhance his powers. Meanwhile most of the monsters are some sort of Eldritch Abomination with little to no humanity to begin with.
I'm 3 episodes into season 1, watching subtitled. Watching this makes me mostly happy I'm watching it non-dubbed, but some of these clips were better dubbed. Mostly the "DAMNNN ITTTTTTTT"s.
But cant you argue that Saitama has more of a social conflict than a physical one? While all other heros in the the world fit nicely into the Hero Organization, Saitama is places into an extremely low hero class due to society not being prepared for his strength. Or how he is the only super hero faced with public ridicule and doubt while every other super hero gets praised and glorified for thier actions. I dont feel Saitama is a hero without conflict here and i feel this video portrays him as such. I feel his Struggles as a character is to be recognized by society as a hero and not some fake that takes credit from the work other people do.
its both he wants a challenge and we want him to be recognised honestly they crossest as goals as that's what most likely the series is building towards
I still don't feel like it's really HIS conflict. He shrugs most of it off and answers with a casual "Don't let it bother you" or "I don't care" he accepts the promotion to B rank not in an attempt to prove something, or over come a conflict his reason is simply "I won't have to reach a quota any more" he recognizes the problems in society but is detached from it himself on a personal level. Instead his blunt and uncaring attitude to most problems ends up with Saitama pointing out the flaws in other people's motivations, thoughts and the society they live in and by easily out classing them it makes them really consider that maybe everything they thought or believed in is actually wrong.
The Hype Station The way I see it, Saitama's internal conflict has arisen because he lacks external conflict. People crave meaning in their life, so when there is no meaning to be found in overcoming external hardships (because there are none), Saitama's mind makes up a conflict within in a desperate measure to bring conflict, and thereby meaning, back into his life.
I don't see it as a narrative without conflict as Saitama's conflict is that he has no conflict, this philosophy is only valid if you view the anime as a straight action/superhero and forget all drama/internal aspects. When Mumen rider approached those bald villains and was cheered on to instantly be knocked out it was played for laughs. So during his confrontation with the Sea king I expected laughs, but it was actually kind of an inspiring moment to see him stand up to him, but I don't think at that point in the series anyone watching expected Mumen rider to win and Saitama to not show up and do his thing. I empathized and rooted more with Saitama, hoping he would finally receive acknowledgement for accomplishing something. Saitama has goals just like any other main character and while he may be perfect in the fighting aspect, he seems to strive for the admiration of the public for being a "true" hero & not what the people of his world consider a hero because he already is just that. I feel like you should've went more in depth on the last part of the video or maybe on the theme of finding one's purpose which is prevalent throughout the series; from Saitama hating his old job, villains not wanting to work to having regular day jobs post-Saitama. It seems to reflect a lot of the creator's journey of having some regular job to successful anime/manga creator. .
Yeah, I agree. This review was just too superficial, and kept harping on that one point endlessly... I was wondering when they were going to highlight how Saitama struggles for recognition from his peers, and then juxtapose it against the apparent ease with which he dispatches his enemies. They could have done an investigation into this repeated use of dramatic irony as a running theme throughout the series. But they never did. Wisecrack also missed the opportunity to look into the true meaning of heroism - exemplified by Saitama's constant saving of people / the world, despite him being misunderstood or even belittled by everyone around him. How did they not think to contrast this with the public adulation Genus receives for being considerably less accomplished? I am disappoint 😟
WMICx There is also the theme of not judging by the cover which i understand happens often in japan, like saitama the original web comic itself has artwork that looks mundane and unimpressive but the story and endering characters are revealed as a hidden gems, most people refuse to accept that saitama is as strong as he is because he doesn't like impressive enough, everyone thinks muman rider can beat the sea king despite a normal guy on a bicycle with a good speach while nobody has faith in saitama, even after he tanks a hit with no obvious harm they ignore the evidence and assume its a fluke even though that had never happened before, even when saitama does win all it take is some fish lipped asshole to move things in the other direction, instead of people seeing saitama as strong they see the other heros as weak for not being able to stop him, which leads saitama to act like a true hero sacrificing hes reputation to prtect the faith in heros and the ultimate good that they do
To me Saitama exists as a sort of Reverse Superman. While Superman is about inspiring people to be heroes in their own right and to do good because he's so powerful yet goes out of his way to help people that it should make people take a look at their own selves and decide to do that to. Saitama however exists as the opposite. Instead of trying to inspire people, the scene with Mumen Rider and the Sea King showcases something. He threw out any praise and glory he might have gotten because it was so easy for him but every other hero got thoroughly beaten and many were near death. If this was a Superman story, Superman would end up as beaten down as the other heroes and in fact the way Sea King is set up is VERY similar to Doomsday in terms of how the story goes. Several heroes show up to stop this unstoppable threat, all of them beaten to within an inch of their lives, and then Superman shows up and even HE'S not enough to fully stop Doomsday and is eventually killed. With Sea King the same thing happens... But the second the "Superman" in question shows up he's down for the count and all is well. With all of this in mind one could argue Saitama TRIES to do what Superman does but in a different way. While Superman is about inspiring hope and selflessness, Saitama could more or less be about inspiring selflessness and humbleness. He's humble enough and selfless enough to give up glory to others who actually earned it with their hard work and who nearly died trying to protect people and while there are a few in the Hero Association who KNOW just how powerful he is the S-Class heroes tend to be kind of arrogant by a strong measure, so take that into account and add Saitama showing humility and humbleness in his goals and view of glory and you have the overall conflict even if it's not stated outright. Humility VS Arrogance, set on the back drop of a man who cannot be defeated but wishes that he could. Going further with Boros who claims to be the strongest in the universe and constantly thinking he can take Saitama down all throughout their fight up until the very last second. Arrogance
I've always hated when things drag and drag and buildup for ages. And when characters give us a long boring emotional storyline and won't shut up. So one punch man is like my perfect anime 💚
I know what its suppose to mean, but that's such an overused fortune cookie slogan thrown around mindlessly. There is no journey when you commute to work. Only time spent and the annoyance of other people preventing you from getting to work. Even then, most jobs are only a means to an end. Even so, too many people believe that tedium is some kind of character building adversity that'll make you stronger.
That kinda the point tho. There no journey ina commute to work because a commute to work is a clinical "point to point" way of just ....getting to the destination
@darwinXavier yes. thats correct. its hard to see the forest when we constantly have to look at the trees. and in the case u mentioned, that tree seem to be not part of the forest we are looking for either. :p
But i think that the show, well, more precisely the manga, IS gearing people for a sort of catharsis. A lot of time in recent battles the main expectation is not for hero to win, like in other media, but for hero to _show up_.
+Kutlu Misrak Wait, if Saitama is one shot at the end of the series, all that means is that he didn't look hard enough for an opponent. Wouldn't that change the premise of the series from "Guy who is too strong" to "Strong guy who is too lazy/stupid to find the other guy who is stronger than him, so he thinks he's too strong." Also it wouldn't be funny. Sure, no one'd expect it, but that doesn't make it funny. To me, the whole series was simply a parody character in a serious shonen world. The reason he is too strong is because it's funny. No serious character can beat him because he is following a completely different story from theirs. The other characters try "Oh, I'll power up, I'll train, I'll get smarter and wiser, my buddies and I will team up, etc..." There is no realistic way to beat him, the only way he could lose is in an unrealistic way, like you said, with a Deus ex Machina.
The Dub version is anti-climatic. The sub you can actually sense Saitama struggling with the conflict of not feeling satisfied. But I guess the issue of Sub and Dub is left to personal taste.
I don't like this episode. You spend a lot of time talking about why One Punch Man has to be boring, but never get to why it is not. As in you did not say anything about the struggle of Saitama in the hero association. You might think that it is not philosophy, but it is: the show states that even if we get over our natural problems like food and shelter we still will have other problems we can spend our time on instead or we will at least create them. I believe that people currently say that they get less satisfaction from live than before just haven't found their other problems they can work around.
He did say why it was not boring. The supporting characters play the role of the typical hero, they struggle and thats where we get our action and emotion from. Then Saitama comes up and the bad guy dies.
I dont think Saitama has any struggle in the hero association and his point still stand, plus yours. Saitama has no interest in being a S class hero, he didn't motivate by the ladder climbing in the Association so it's not a struggle. If any thing, it's a struggle of the lack or realization of the civ around him. And he seem to not mind it that much. More than any thing it's us that frustrate by it. Actually, he never said One Punch Man is boring, but said Saitama is bored. It's a great story, about a character who is bored with his life. And the book and the philosophy is about ideal - meaning it's not real. Ofcourse you'll never be in the position of lack of conflict. It's real life, you'll never running out of conflict. But the point is to be grateful of the conflict that we're dealing with, because with out it, life is meaningless.
Here I figured OPM's power and lack of drama was commentary on the typical battle anime protag who (in most situations) cannot and will not use and pointlessly long fights are done in an attempt to try and create drama even though we ALL know that they're going to win, usually in some special technique. I mean look at Bleach, Inuyasha, etc... Like yeah, we know you're going to win. You don't have to spend 17 episodes depicting 5 minutes... One Punch Man cuts straight tot he punch and just ends the fight immediately instead of insulting the audience's intelligence and then weaves this into the story.
It's not always like that though. Especially in recent years. More media has main characters that die or get seriously injured and lose than in the past. At least it feels like that.
There's actual conflict with saitama's character but it's more internal and societal / social based. He gained all his power but at the cost of his emotions and his hair. Which most likely is a reference to him reaching a level of enlightenment where is powers are beyond the physical and emotional Spectrum. The rest has to do with his place in society compared to all the other heroes & the monsters. Due to lack of recognition for what he's actually done before he joined. And his money standpoint which is the reason why he took on Genoes as a student / sidekick. And finally I leave you with this saitama is a parody of OG Superman the one that couldn't fly.
This definitely missed out on what the show is really about. OPM was meant to subvert the Japanese Super Saiyan genre among many others because of their extremes of drama to the point of tired, time-wasting epic battles that are dragged out to fabricate emotion that we could have gotten in a much shorter span of time. In a world of long expositions and excessive character arcs and egos the size of planets, Saitama's worries are much more HUMAN where his power is not. He's RELATABLE in that his issues are tied to how he'll pay for dinner and rent, how people perceive him, how he needs to remember how to find joy in doing what he loves, and what he believes heroism to be vs. the selfish sensationalist gimmick it's become. OPM is about finding hope and joy and something to believe in in a world of boredom, selfishness and cynicism. You see that in the way Saitama would rather put faith in the heroes who stood up to the Sea King even at the cost of his own reputation, how he lights up at Mumen Rider's kindness and takes care of Genos and looks after the wellbeing of others. It's about having fun in the things everybody takes too seriously. Thinking OPM lacks in conflict really misses the spirit of the show or any of its--well, very real, very human, very relatable conflicts, most of which are seen in Saitama rather than in the side characters.
Well said. OPM opens with a few arcs that offer to really explore the human behind the Super Saiyan, but unfortunately it falls into filler where the show spends time developing minor characters that offer little to the narrative except filler until Saitama himself becomes a remote figure who brings little to the story except to clean up the mess everyone is in. He starts off subverting the genre, then ends up being the reliable Deus Ex Machina. The final episode stars a character that resembles Saitama in a lot of respects: He just wants a good fight. And he happens to have been bothered by this itch for quite a bit longer than Saitama has. There's an interesting concept to explore in how Saitama's power might corrupt him as it did the villain, but unfortunately that simply is not explored.
Well said. Although I just started this anime, I think the strongest point of is premise is that it parodies the over-drama in anime conflicts. I commented a reply to the video recently, but I should have read your response first. Perhaps OPM pulled a prank on us, thinking there was something deeper than what it actually is. OPM is enjoyable because it is simple and relatable.
I was about to comment the same thing yet this is just perfect and very nicely phrased. I not only think that OPM wants to make fun of the entertainment medium for over-exaggerating fictional conflicts, but also of how society and media respond to real-life problems. I think we should all practice a bit of stoicism in our lives so we won't be so frantic when shit happens to us (of c we don't need to be as extreme as Saitama). Even though the video completely misses this point, I think it still did a good job at conveying an opposite point of view. So let's not completely dismiss the idea that struggles give life purpose.
+leon bushnell I would think they would more likely explore the subversive side of the group as a whole. They were terrorists technically while under the name ISIS, then they were hired by the CIA and then Drug Runners and then back to "Spying" and the most recent season being a dreamland. Everything that has taken place within the show is based on real events, most of it anyway. And most of the things they have done have been proven to have been done by the CIA in the past. The show definately uses it's incredible wit and banter to overlay this stuff.
I was thinking exactly the same thing. It came to a peak at the point where saitama holds mumen rider after the Sea King clobbers him. It's not -all- anime, but some are definitely weird when the voice acting affects the personality of the character in such a different fashion. The Japanese voice acting of saitama is so much less cavalier about everything. He's like, melancholy.
I thought that the aspect of the story ONE wanted us to fixate on was the fact that even though Saitama is overpowered, he still isn't a good hero or recognized by people. I thought that we were meant to root for Saitama to become an inspiring hero who is praised by the public. I'm not dismissing this video, I just thought that that was the point of the story. Great vid btw, love this channel.
Toyosi Adesina Yeah it's was kinda of a cockblock when those people diss him after he beat the Sea King. I was like Saitama was almost gonna be recognised by the public but come on why did you hero block us
its both he wants a challenge and we want him to be recognised honestly they crossest as goals as that's what most likely the series is building towards
a user has no name he sacrificed his standing to save the reputation of his fellow heroes. Which is like Genos' self destruct sequence. Saitama put his wants and needs aside to help build up the others who fought the sea king and his sacrifice made me want to root for him more.
You say, Saitama is boring, while in contrast I would say he is a very interesting guy, how he didn't get an S class rank from the start of his hero career and how he struggles to achieve S class is really good plot. How he kills his every opponent with one punch, pretty much concludes that you don't need thousands of episodes to watch to get same satisfactory result and also you save lots of your personal time...
I end up rooting for Saitama every time and I get that cathartic release at the end *because* of the build up towards the final punch. Then again this is all moot because I am 100% sure that ONE never meant for OPM to be "deep". Mob Psycho 100 is supposed to be his actual serious work.
james d you should rewatch the series and read the manga or webcomics there were manny emotional serious moments (I recommend the special manga charpter with the police idk which that is)
james d ONE never meant for One Punch Man to be deep? Sure, he was a "mangaka for fun" and just drew it at first for s**** and giggles. But as soon as ONE introduces the Hero Association, the series is split. The famous joke, the One Punch, is still in effect, but the rest of the world, basically a serious shonen, starts rolling. Amai Mask is mystery. A few executives see Saitama's strength but decide to watch him climb the ranks. Many S-Class heroes are unwilling to save millions of innocent lives from a meteor. Metal Knight doesn't value human life at all. Mumen Rider and other heroes show themselves willing to lay down their lives in defense of humanity. The most powerful hero S-Class Rank 1 Blast is missing. An alien warlord attacks Earth because he seeks meaning in his life. These features are no laughing matter.
Isn't the feeling of boredom from lack of diversity a struggle in and of itself for a person to get a sense of self actualization? Freed from other distractions people are like children, always in awe of the infinite wonder in the world, always itching to express their ideas, and achieve their dreams. Do you think Medieval people had daydreams, or do you think people want to invest if the world is too chaotic to guarantee they will be around to reap the return on the investment? Its because we have less and less challenges that we can progress in the finer areas of life like are and entertainment.
I think the point was more that struggling to do something gives it more personal value and that many people these days don't seem to want to make something personal. If I give you a ring its just a ring. If you worked hard to get the metal, Melt it down and shape it into a ring it has more sentimental value even if its not as good as the ones you can buy. The idea is that Struggle/conflict builds contrast in our lives of which we can determine the shape of our character. Some say that in our day and age we don't have all the struggles they had and in turn don't see the same highs and lows. I'd say that both your statement and their statement are crude simplifications.
Nicholas Bonasoro Very true! The reason why people are able and willing to create entertainment in the first place is because they're not too busy fighting for survival all of the time. However, I think the point the video is making is not that we should throw away our technology and go back to living how our ancestors did centuries ago, but rather that we should find a happy balance.
Actually King himself lectures Saitama about the same thing. Spoiler kinda? Saitama confesses to him in the manga all about how he's bored to be overpowered and lacking challenge. King just asks him if he's tried something else in his life. Some other way in wich he can improve or be defeated "Like Videogames" Saitama says he can't feel emotion by victory or defeat in something like a videogame to wich King, with a smug face, tells him that he will defeat Saitama using only two fingers, wich manages to anger Saitama, who screams "I will crush you this time!"
I feel like you guys were way off on this... Saitama is driven by people throughout the entire story. Even his first moment of heroism was based on an instinct he didn't even know he had (saving the prankster child) and most of the scenarios that he gets himself mixed up in are because of Genos and other characters he forms relationships with. The only time you ever see his character smiling is when he's with the company of his friends or protecting them. I think the point the show was trying to convey was that regardless of how powerful you are the true problem comes from feeling alone.
I deny that extremely as he is always annoyed when others are around. He's also always bored regardless, but does things cause he's dragged into it, but he's still not happy.
Naw. He gets quite a sum of kicks whenever he shows off around people. No pun intended on punches and kicks, I mean like psychological kicks. www.macmillandictionary.com/us/dictionary/american/get-your-kicks-from-something
a lot of triggered millennials/hipsters/SJWs trying hard to rationalize an argument against this videos comment about conflict, the mental gymnastics is hilariously entertaining to read.
