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@cwestrephx
@cwestrephx 8 месяцев назад
Suns fan here. Pretty good video overall. A few things I would add: A major factor you skipped over was the Suns ownership situation. Going thru all the Robert Sarver drama, then getting Mat Ishbia to buy the team and want to make an immediate splash by overpaying for Durant was a huge part of how we got here. I have mixed feelings about the Chris Paul - Bradley Beal trade, because we'd seen that Chris Paul was getting picked on defensively, and the Suns didn't have enough good defensive players around him to cover that, and at the same time, the league has been moving towards a faster paced, more 3 point shooting play type, which doesn't work in CP3's favor. That said, we only gain slightly on D just from Beal being bigger, and taking a couple more 3s than CP3 would, while sacrificing ball-handling and burdening ourselves with an untradeable contract. It's another "new owner wants to make a splash and form a superteam" sort of trade. I'd also say that the vibes were pretty bad for the team in the post-Mavs blowout year, because they needed to show improvement from that poor performance, but how do you do that when you won 64 games the year before, and you can't really prove anything until the playoffs? Also the Monty/Ayton stuff was starting to swirl, and the Sarver situation was hanging over everything, while also limiting our ability to make roster/firing moves to change the vibes. That whole season was awful for an otherwise promising team. I was so happy when Ishbia took over the team and made the Durant trade, even though I knew it was an overpay, just because we at least had a different set of problems to deal with finally.
@davyunwashington3613
@davyunwashington3613 8 месяцев назад
Didn’t the owner change happened after the Kd trade
@sammycampbell1654
@sammycampbell1654 8 месяцев назад
That's a deep insight that I had really thought about (ownership drama). My question to you, the Suns fan.... were you excited about Beal? Did you think they'd added a top of the league talent to complete a three headed offensive juggernaut with KD and Book? I didn't. I don't "buy the hype" on Beal. I thunk he's a guy who got on the radar with good numbers that somebody had to get on a very bad team. His max contract is insane to me, and can be pointed at as an example of what financial responsibility doesn't look like.
@cwestrephx
@cwestrephx 8 месяцев назад
@sammycampbell1654 Thanks! No, I hope that Beal can gel with Book & KD in a way that can work, and at least in some sense he is a "third star" in that he's more recognizable to the public & in player circles, but I don't see him as the same caliber of player as Book & KD. For me, it was definitely more that it felt like we had reached our ceiling with CP3, and that his pick n roll playstyle wasn't going to work with Book & KD. At least there was a chance that Beal could be used more as a floor spacer and let Book & KD operate more in a way that suits them, whereas that's definitely not the best use of CP3.
@samhoward5872
@samhoward5872 8 месяцев назад
As a fellow suns fan, hang in there brother, our time will come
@sammycampbell1654
@sammycampbell1654 8 месяцев назад
@cwestrephx ok.... very well said. I kinda feel like I'm in the minority on Beal, but is what it is. I agree y'all had hit the ceiling with Paul, so Beal was really the only option short of riding CP3 one more year. I hope it works.... I'm a Mavs fan first, but the Suns have always been a team that's had my attention, back to the Barkley days. I like KD a lot too.
@fronk6800
@fronk6800 8 месяцев назад
On the plus side when the Suns play like what was advertised it's so fun to watch. Real video game shit.
@itssimtho
@itssimtho 8 месяцев назад
I have always been a fan of secret base and during Detroit, recent losing streak I came across your channel and I’m so glad I did because I honestly love watching your videos going through some tough shit in life, but being being able to just listen to your calm voice, talking basketball makes a day a little bit better and we do really appreciate it. Thank you.
@SapienAnamoly
@SapienAnamoly 8 месяцев назад
Hang in there bro
@sammycampbell1654
@sammycampbell1654 8 месяцев назад
5:33 You say "they had Brunson, but meh, he wasnt the player he is now." That couldnt be further from the truth. The last 2 or 3 weeks, through the first 2 rounds, was Brunson becoming "that guy". That run, was Jalen's coming out party.
@justsimplycloud-justacomme8265
@justsimplycloud-justacomme8265 8 месяцев назад
These are great videos to help me wake up. I’ve always loved your work on Secret Base and it’s cool to get daily content from you. Keep working man!
@SpencerOnYT
@SpencerOnYT 8 месяцев назад
man i fall asleep to these! i love it though
@revan5293
@revan5293 8 месяцев назад
As a suns fan I am worried. Honestly as a suns fan I just sick of always be second place and being the younger brother to all LA teams. I hope we can win soon. This town really needs it. Besides the Phx mercury has more chips than we do you know how embarrassing that is
@rayallen6206
@rayallen6206 8 месяцев назад
One small thing is that you kinda wrote off how special Brunson was in that Dallas playoff run, he was averaging 28, 4, 4 in the first round and averaged 21 throughout their run as a whole. I think his ascent, and the fact that the Suns dropped 2 to the Pelicans, made a lot of people pick Dallas as the favorite to win the series.
@Ravenclanner
@Ravenclanner 8 месяцев назад
Love the specific team coverage! More interesting than individual players imo. Do you think Pels are legitimate contender in West or no?
@SnowBoarder2910
@SnowBoarder2910 8 месяцев назад
Also would love a video on the Pelicans. People only talk about Zion's effort but BI has been locked in defensively, Trey Murphy is a lot better off the dribble, and the whole team is shooting more 3's at a higher efficiency. Feels like something finally clicked for them
@selfishstockton6123
@selfishstockton6123 8 месяцев назад
Bol Bol will be the next Tacko Fall
@isaiahmusa3474
@isaiahmusa3474 8 месяцев назад
At least he is on a winning team unlike the pisstons lol
@edw1n2
@edw1n2 8 месяцев назад
@@isaiahmusa3474Tacko Fall was also on a winning team
@rambunctiousbear224
@rambunctiousbear224 8 месяцев назад
I refuse to believe this😢
@Reefer-Rampage69
@Reefer-Rampage69 8 месяцев назад
He already is
@Reefer-Rampage69
@Reefer-Rampage69 8 месяцев назад
@@rambunctiousbear224he literally already doesn’t play
@DemoGordon1281
@DemoGordon1281 8 месяцев назад
Love ur videos Kofie
@cousinwil5808
@cousinwil5808 8 месяцев назад
So this is the first time I’ve watched you. Thanks for not yelling at me, for not being sensationalist, and for having a well thought out and nuanced point of view. You rock.
@jerms99
@jerms99 8 месяцев назад
Used to watch your tiktoks i think before you started talking about sports (if im not mistaken) then you started talking about sports and watched all your videos, happy that you made a youtube channel because haven’t used tt in months. Happy to see your doing well Kofi.
@SnowBoarder2910
@SnowBoarder2910 8 месяцев назад
Imagine a world where Booker has a title and FMVP and Giannis doesn't...
@bookaufman9643
@bookaufman9643 8 месяцев назад
That Yankees-Red Sox series was the one to lift the curse. They hadn't won a World series since they had traded Babe Ruth.
@ericfranklin1802
@ericfranklin1802 8 месяцев назад
Beauty is that the NBAs new rules around salaries and trades has made even more restrictive for teams above the second tax apron (which the Suns undoubtedly are)
@markanon9097
@markanon9097 8 месяцев назад
Pausing the video to say that your "The Rudy Gobert Trade Has Been Better Than Expected" video would be good because I feel that NBA reporters have been down on it Front-Office/Agent-sourced perspective.
@Happycoreftw
@Happycoreftw 8 месяцев назад
That game 7 red Sox Yankees game was so great as a red Sox fan lol
@TheMissinLink
@TheMissinLink 8 месяцев назад
Just a note about Beals NTC, it is still in effect as of this moment. They tried to get it removed out the the contract, but they ultimately bit the bullet anyway.
@yardship
@yardship 8 месяцев назад
the super max should be changed so that the extra money is uncapped. This allows older stars to get rewarded even if their best years are behind them, and it would be easier to trade them from bad situations as it's easier to match salaries.
@a.huiden8518
@a.huiden8518 8 месяцев назад
Great video Kofie (as a Sixers fan please dont remind me of the Mikal draft day trade tho :( Would love a video comparing all the superteams, as I think superteams didnt change, but the circumstances were just different. The Heatles were a success because they also had Spo as coach, despite the rest of the team. The '08 Celtics won, despite Doc, because their stars had strengths that fit amazingly.
@DunYappin
@DunYappin 8 месяцев назад
AOT hockey jersey?
@Zoomist45
@Zoomist45 8 месяцев назад
W vid
@MrOuest
@MrOuest 8 месяцев назад
Completely off topic, I know, but Kofie's BGM on this vid is dope as hell.
@sfasfads
@sfasfads 8 месяцев назад
Brunson wasn't who he is now? He was carrying the Mavs to wins that post season without Luka. We may be casuals, but that needs to be recognized. Big 3s can run an offense if they're healthy. It's running both sides of the ball that's trouble.
@JuanGarcia-bz3lj
@JuanGarcia-bz3lj 8 месяцев назад
Love the AOT jersey man
@Gio-pb5rm
@Gio-pb5rm 8 месяцев назад
Bruh I been telling my brother that they got a 2k ass roster 😂
@numzdontlie2638
@numzdontlie2638 8 месяцев назад
Bradley Beal, destroyer of salary caps
@govindsuresh6805
@govindsuresh6805 8 месяцев назад
KINGKOFIEWHY back with another banger
@Tuna_Candan
@Tuna_Candan 8 месяцев назад
What you think bout AOT ending Kofie
@mead5185
@mead5185 6 месяцев назад
hey at least we have the diamondbacks
@ShinjiGetsGrounded
@ShinjiGetsGrounded 8 месяцев назад
sport name???
@matthewhall1467
@matthewhall1467 8 месяцев назад
I saw an interesting stat that the Suns have the worst Q4 net rating in the league by -16.1. I dont watch suns games but are their top heavy starts burnt out by then or is their bench really that bad
@SoCalSon395
@SoCalSon395 8 месяцев назад
Our bench is not great but I think it's partially related to the rotations around Nurkic (and Booker to a lesser extent). The team plays substantially better on both ends with Nurkic on the floor and a lot of our sets involve him more than stats can really show, and we usually start the 4th with Nurkic sitting. Part of it is he's an offensive hub which opens up the shooters and the big 3 a lot more, but it's also that our bench bigs are genuinely atrocious so every team can get a ton of paint points and offensive rebound on us when Nurkic is not in the game. Besides Nurkic, Booker's impact is probably felt the most and he also has not played the full 4th quarter until pretty recently. We're still the worst 4Q team with Booker but a big part of why the stats are as bad as they are is the 7 or 8 game stretch where Booker was hurt, and now that he's back we are a lot better at closing, even if it's not where we want it to be quite yet.
@Mvfasalways
@Mvfasalways 8 месяцев назад
Have you met the lakers
@TheOddMindofSamBo
@TheOddMindofSamBo 8 месяцев назад
I want a video on the ideal hawks roster. Jalen Johnson might be our future as I don’t see an ideal path for Trae Young as option one.
@selfishstockton6123
@selfishstockton6123 8 месяцев назад
You have to move Trae. He’s not a number one option
@isaiahmusa3474
@isaiahmusa3474 8 месяцев назад
Stop lying
@SomeChink
@SomeChink 8 месяцев назад
Trae was never a no.1 They saw Curry and thought oh let’s try that, not understanding that Curry is 1 of 1
@edw1n2
@edw1n2 8 месяцев назад
Still blows my mind Jalen fell as far in the draft as he did
@TheOddMindofSamBo
@TheOddMindofSamBo 8 месяцев назад
@@isaiahmusa3474 I'm a trae guy and a hawks guy I'm just tired of three straight years of this weirdness
@upthereds1892
@upthereds1892 8 месяцев назад
This is high effort low effort content lmao
@omartinez7002
@omartinez7002 8 месяцев назад
Mid analysis ngl. A lot of what’s been going on with the suns is a lot deeper than shown in the video.
@SoCalSon395
@SoCalSon395 8 месяцев назад
I'm sorry I like your content but who the fuck was interested in geriatric Chris Paul and a max contract Deandre Ayton (by several advanced metrics the worst player in the 2023 playoffs), like if you want to criticize the KD deal because Brooklyn managed to salvage their unstable contender into a directionless lottery team that's your prerogative but it's just ignorant to act like the Suns actually could have gone out and gotten role guys to play next to KD and Booker instead of the Beal trade they actually did. As a Suns fan, do I think they're gonna win a championship out of it? Probably not! But sitting back and armchair GMing as if there was actually a better option than Beal forcing his way here with his no-trade clause is just a bad take.
@Undefeatedsports3
@Undefeatedsports3 8 месяцев назад
And they still won’t make the playoffs
@vampirecountingmoneyup2248
@vampirecountingmoneyup2248 8 месяцев назад
commenting to support the Kofie algorithm
@trendel13
@trendel13 8 месяцев назад
Liking and commenting to support the algorithm.
@selanryn5849
@selanryn5849 8 месяцев назад
algorithm-based engagement
@cbhartwell5245
@cbhartwell5245 8 месяцев назад
Love the content man keep it up, I think a vid about the potential fall of “super teams” in this new era of ball will be reallly interesting , coupled with the fact theres just so many better players (good role players) on most top teams
@dawsonshibz15
@dawsonshibz15 8 месяцев назад
Frank Kaminsky mentioned 🔥🔥🔥
@hacksignify
@hacksignify 8 месяцев назад
Nothing the Suns do ever works. I learned my final lesson during that finals, all hope as a Suns fan is a fabrication.
@braedenrose2705
@braedenrose2705 8 месяцев назад
How dare you put LeBron in this video. This is a haven for off brand basketball.
@Grievous_
@Grievous_ 8 месяцев назад
I love how you pointed out the Nuggets philosophy on the how they draft, i’m a Warriors fan and i’ve wanted them to do that in years past, Dunleavy drafted Podz and TJD who are Nba ready while Bob Meyers messed up by drafting Wiseman and Kuminga who needed to be developed, Moses Moody has shown that he is Nba rea because he knows his role and knows what to do but Kerr doesn’t play him idk why but outside of that we aren’t that timeline! But if there’s a contender out there a guy like P.J Hall would be great to have on the roster next year, he’s already Nba ready and I know he’d know his role the second he gets to the league, im hoping the Warriors can find a way to get him in the upcoming draft
@JoeJoe-lq6bd
@JoeJoe-lq6bd 8 месяцев назад
I honestly think the Suns put together a team that will be perpetually just over .500. There's no depth. I said this to some people on reddit at the beginning of the season and they insisted the team is incredibly deep and they just hadn't had enough time playing together. We're about halfway through the season and we're still not seeing the depth. Booker, Beal, and Durant will have games where they just dominate (when they're all healthy) and that's enough to win but that won't happen against good defensive teams with deep benches.
@tyler3800
@tyler3800 8 месяцев назад
I feel like these past few years of trying to make super teams work in Brooklyn or in phoenix and seeing how they fizzled out or how the team has no depth and can’t work will be a dark spot in nba history.
@DonSMDT
@DonSMDT 8 месяцев назад
people are serious about bol bol/ i just thought he was a meme player
@MonsieurBooyah
@MonsieurBooyah 8 месяцев назад
the nets were overdue for winning a trade
@cousinwil5808
@cousinwil5808 8 месяцев назад
Beal is literally the least tradable contract without even looking at the bread… he’s the only guy in the league with a no trade clause.
@JoeJoe-lq6bd
@JoeJoe-lq6bd 8 месяцев назад
I can't believe any team did that. Unless you were dealing down and got him for a low dollar amount in exchange for that clause, it's puzzling why you'd give that contract to Beal. I could see Steph getting that from the Warriors because they'll never trade him anyway. Beal isn't that level. Such a weird decision.
@cousinwil5808
@cousinwil5808 8 месяцев назад
@@JoeJoe-lq6bd yeah, that’s the kind of move you make because you’re planning on building a long term contender. Clearly Washington was not planning to do that, so….
@zwood6694
@zwood6694 8 месяцев назад
Kofie is content god and I will not tolerate any slander against this
@VeteranVandal
@VeteranVandal 8 месяцев назад
The Phoenix Suns had a bad coach. YOU KNOW IT KOFIE. But I agree: the blue print for NBA now is to have a good 5 and a 6 that could be a starter (and in some games will be) and 3 or 4 more role players that are good at both offense and defense. It's not having 3 superstars and nothing else.
@selfishstockton6123
@selfishstockton6123 8 месяцев назад
That’s not a blueprint. That’s a rotation for all teams in the nba
@garrettmiller4979
@garrettmiller4979 8 месяцев назад
@@selfishstockton6123 in theory, yes, but many teams aren't built like that in reality. that's why it's closer to a blueprint
@karlliebknecht2987
@karlliebknecht2987 8 месяцев назад
@@garrettmiller4979 Also what isn't touched on, is that the Nuggets had/have the consensus best player in the NBA, who much like LBJ, raises the level of all his surrounding players by his playmaking. Besides the Nuggets, maybe LA (although LBJ is old), and maybe Shai who does have a similar skill set, no other teams can follow that blueprint.
@garrettmiller4979
@garrettmiller4979 8 месяцев назад
@@karlliebknecht2987 I agree with you on this, although I will say that the Celtics have a team that most closely resembles what the original comment was alluding to in my opinion
@karlliebknecht2987
@karlliebknecht2987 8 месяцев назад
@@garrettmiller4979 Actually that's probably a good point. They have 1 superstar (which is probably a necessity to win the finals), and 4 very good starters (all save Jrue are borderline all-stars), which is probably most similar to Nuggets (best or 2nd best player in league rn, with a slightly worse supporting cast), while OKC for example is 1 superstar, Chet is a stud but not all-star level, same with Giddy, and kind of everyone else.
@IKnowHuh731
@IKnowHuh731 8 месяцев назад
The Suns are such a fun easy to root for team. Wish people could appreciate how bananas having booker and KD on the same team is. It would be like if we got to see kobe and mcgrady on the same team back in the day. The only crime the Suns ever committed was be the main rival for the warriors and lakers fans.
@jtizzle124
@jtizzle124 8 месяцев назад
I have never once looked at the Suns as a contender no matter who was on the roster. I just know in my heart of hearts the Suns will Sun. They’re the NBA equivalent to the Minnesota Vikings.
@vulksi
@vulksi 8 месяцев назад
@@jtizzle124i feel this so hard as a suns fan I wish I could go back to 2021 and the hope I was filled with, my dad told me he fears he will not experience a suns championship and his life time and it made me sad at this rate I fear the same too suns future is non existent and our present team is not what was expected.
@selfishstockton6123
@selfishstockton6123 8 месяцев назад
That’s a terrible comp
@jtizzle124
@jtizzle124 8 месяцев назад
@@vulksi Much like my Knicks, being a Suns fan carries generational trauma.
@hacksignify
@hacksignify 8 месяцев назад
​@@jtizzle124least y'all had one. We've had nothing but pain
@blueredlover1060
@blueredlover1060 8 месяцев назад
I watch KOT4Q videos, and even he puts together better rosters than the Suns have.
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