The Pied Piper of Hamelin 

my mother used to tell me this story as a child and when she told the tale while most of the town did not want to honor the bargain one woman who had a crippled child was spared because she gave what little gold she could even though she didnt have much

is there a name for the flute tune thats played in the backround i really like it and id like to hear more ?

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And tells a lot about human nature: as soon as something has been done, human nature unfortunately disrespects the work done and finds multible reasons to not fulfill an agreement. Moral

Scary yet it’s true If the mayor just pay the piper then maybe the kids would be spared (it would be tough without the food and such for everyone though we’re not so sure what’s gonna happen next)

Yes and always pay what is owed.

And don’t offer to pay more than you can afford.

LMFAO HAHAHHAAH

@@Necromancyrthat was rude

That matches with the theory that the piper was a subscription agent trying to find settlers for waste lands. Only strong and young people (the town's children is ment metaphorically) were wanted because settling is a hard business. An old German saying says: "Death for the first (generation), poverty for the second and bread for the third" (Dem Ersten der Tod, dem Zweiten die Not, dem dritten das Brot).

Antihero? I couldn’t disagree more. Straight up villain is what the piper is. The guy murders 135 innocent children because he didn’t get paid for a job, a job he price gouged in the extreme- taking advantage of a desperate town. 1000 guilders in that time was a huge sum of money- several years worth of salary for a skilled worker. And he charged that for a day’s worth of work. Instead of taking legal action or seeking recourse through proper channels, he kidnaps and murders children. But you don’t blame him? The guy is evil beyond comprehension. Like Ted Bundy or BTK or Timothy McVeigh. An equivalence would be: A hurricane is barreling toward a small town, and one resident has a stockpile of plywood, and he’s the only one with supplies that can do the job before the storm hits. So he charges $250 a sheet because the town is desperate. After the storm the town owes the guy $150,000 but doesn’t have the funds available. So on the next school day the guy grabs a couple AR-15’s and goes to the local Kindergarten and Pre-k school and indiscriminately murders everyone on the premises. I wouldn’t label that person a an antihero.

I agree. Would love to see it.

@@ninawestlake14there is a korean horror movie about it, called The piper

Wow. Wonder what happened.

I was studying in Germany one summer and met a guy from Hamelin! I was thrilled.

exactly! There are written records of this happening, a date and even the street on which the children were last seen. Music and dancing is strictly forbidden on that street

Drusus germanicus, the bungelosen are his little pigs (twin bell - hamels)

Do you maybe have a Link or something? Sounds really interesting 👍

No links. They mostly exist as scattered notes and outlines written on OpenOffice docs. I started writing it many years ago when I was an older teenager, so the quality was fairly rough. It's something I think about a lot though, especially after watching this video; kind of reignited my attention to it. I always wanted to tone of the series to be on the lighter side and more or less family-friendly, but I'm considering adding some mildly lovecraftian elements, particularly relating to the ultimate BBEG.

@@GarrettFruge that would be really cool. Maybe you want to get into it again and publish it sometime.

In the original poem, at the end, it says that a far away group of people claimed they were descended from the missing children.

Im not sure why but I always thought he drowned them like the rats

The children obviously died. It is a metaphor of death and disease which was caused by the rats... I assume Black plague.

They actually died from starvation waiting for the so called meracle to come which never did smh

In reality, unfortunately those 130 kidnapped children may have been sold into slavery to repopulate a wiped out Eastern Europe from the Mongols. It’s only a theory of course but it is probable

In some versions he leads the kids away until they settle what is now Transylvania.

@@barneynedward Really now? Fascinating!

@@darnelltucker9163 There was some fascinating research on that. The earliest version of the story is from Hamelin itself, from 1384, noting the hundredth anniversary of the piper leading their children away - there are a few others of that kind of age, but none so precise. The interesting thing is that none of them mention the rats - the rats only come into the story in the fifteenth century. And the version where the rats debut has another detail, which didn't become part of the story's final form - the town's adults saw the children leave and made no attempt to stop them. So there was this historian who thought what if that detail was true, and whether there was some reason why the people of Hamelin in 1284 would not think a piper leading the children away from town was anything to worry about. And she found two. First was a Bavarian midsummer festival where a piper would lead a town's children around local landmarks. And the second was the settlement drive @barneyedward mentioned, where the recruiters also announced themselves via pipes. At first she wondered if the children had simply followed the wrong piper, although if that was the case, there's no reason he wouldn't bring them back as soon as he realised the mistake. But if there was a plan to *traffic* the children to build up settlements to the east, then someone could pretend to be this year's midsummer piper, and lead them into a trap. It becomes a tragedy that scars the town - and two hundred years later, people telling it, who have forgotten the original circumstances, add the rats to the story in an attempt to make sense of it (and as a reason why it couldn't happen to *their* town).

I enjoyed Once Upon A Time show's idea to combine the Pied Piper with Peter Pan and it was his pan flute that spirited them away as lost kids to Neverland.

Search, Feral Flute.

Bard Mages are never appreciated.

Sometimes the mysterious ending is better to hear than the straight forward ending. Yes it's sad and more than a little scary but it wouldn't really feel the same if we knew what happened. Like in "The Lady or the Tiger", that ends on a significant cliffhanger, it feels like if we knew what happened, then the impact of the story would be lost!

I never felt the ending was sad. I always thought it was fun for the kids to leave and go to somewhere magical.

Perhaps the Piper's song kept the adults asleep while it enchanted the kids.

​@@ScionStorm1 exactly

Colourful clothing.

dark-red scarlet Mars juggler Michael bright-white wool Venus magician Samael yellow-green gold Mercurius messenger Gabriel blue azur Ouranos healer Uriel black zorro Saturn hider Saturiel pied garb is bunte farben like black pete and josephs cloak that made his brothers upset, pied is for the king (prince), white is for the priest (santa) ; the wicked and the pious.

Looks like a Bosch painting to me

You've never been so happy, you shed tears?

rebellion of the rhine legions under Tiberius princeps. the rebels were pandered into submission by Drusus germanicus

the ashes of Drusus germanicus were brought to Rome by his widow. The remains of his Twin were brought back to Rome by their brother Caligula. Santa's coming to town.

I wondered about that myself. Crazy that the Hamelin was able to move on after that. Figured they'd look for the Pied Piper and try to pay him for their kids' return.

There is a theory that the base for the story of the pied piper was a man who offered the young people in Hamlin land further east (Poland or even Romania) and that they went there. There were several waves of German settlers moving east for new land.

@@cayreet5992 Wow. That's interesting. Thanks for the info. I like mythology and I'm interested in learning new things.

@@cayreet5992 makes sense if it was teens, but 5 & 7 year olds nope

I believe the story is even darker than the tale itself 🫤 In 1284 Hamelin was devastated, its people, who didn’t have even what to eat, had no resources to pay their taxes, but the government would not forgive. Seeking for an alternative, there was a meeting with the council at close doors, where the proposition was for people to pay their taxes with the only wealth they had: their own children 😮 The councillor, a man who had contacts, suggested the parents to send their children to the governor of a promising land, which was prospering and demanding workforce, and there they would have more opportunities. In exchange they would be forgiven their debts and receive resources to carry on with their lives in Hamelin or restart from zero. People were horrified, however the majority agreed with this idea, stating that they had no alternative, so they began to advise: ‘leave it up to the councillor’. The accord was made and the children were taken, to never be seen again. Some parents couldn’t bear the remorse to know that the true is that those children were sold to slavery, and drowned themselves in the river. But many others endured the reality and carried on, re building the economy in the village. However they were always ashamed, so they made a deal to never ever tell anyone about the tragic facts, which was kept forever in secret since that meeting in close doors, that marked their lives forever, which took place in the village church, where the first record of the Pied Piper tale was found, as a stained painting in its window glass. A tale that was created to cover the true facts, so the people could get on with their consciences. A tale that forever haunted the village of Hamelin.

The piper put his trust in the town. And they broke it. They also insultingly devalued him because he was good at his job and spread slanderous rumours to avoid paying. Wherever the kids were taken, they could be better off than growing up in a degenerate town like that.

@@ScionStorm1 Okay I was wrong then.

A connection to the plague is not proven. The website of Hamelin says it could be about something else, like the people (= children of the city) being enlisted for war.

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That Was in the video

LGBTQ?

Pandera (a pander or pandur, a mercenary) a wanderer (latin pandere = to scatter, to crumb) an exiled bandit , bandalero, desperado .

Common Era!

Disney took a traditional grim fairy tale and made it more light-hearted? You don't say? In other news, water is wet, the sun is hot, and shoelaces have always been impossible to keep tied consistantly.

@drakekondrat799 That's right...Disney always tones down the darker versions of classic stories to be more kid friendly

Quran ; and we gave him a way (path, fate) to follow

They probably tried to pay him in "exposure". Happens to artists who work on commissions sadly.

Robin Hood (al cappa/ el capone) to compare is the Lord of the Horn (cornelius) is EL canna or Elkana (al Qava) is Conan the barbarian (cone, conus is shaft, point, horn) is Pantera/kamtza ; a wanderer and deceiver aka Elymas (elias/ helios). You see any similarities ? Connection to the Twin (boanerges) ? Cornelius is to compare with dhul Qarnain of the Quran. twin is majui and majui, malik and sadiq, marzuk and yaqub, sons of Abraha/ zebedee (mercury, hermes). Elkanah or shortly EL is the lord of judgement, measurement. A reed is an ancient measure tool but an hollow reed is also a flute. Kanah is hebrew for zeal / jealousy. In the new testament a pun is made with the wedding at Cana were hollow cans (empty jars) symbolizes the 'scattered elects' far off abroad. Canna is vase, vessel , container . Cappa is lid, cover, cloak, cape.

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