The Pistol Grip Only Shotgun - The Perfect Home Defense Tool? 

Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended Four ruffians break into my house "What the devil??" as I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle Blow a golf ball sized hole in the first man, he's dead on the spot Draw my pistol on the second man. Misses him entirely because it's a smooth bore and nails the neighbor's dog Have to resort to the cannon at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot "Tally ho lads!"...the grape shot shreds to men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms Fix my bayonet and charge the last rapscallion Man bleeds out waiting for police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up Just as the founding fathers intended

The coach gun's also great if you get stuck on Mars and have to fight a bunch of demons.

My whole family died during the home invasion But that pistol grip shotgun made me look SO COOL

Fact : A coach gun officially becomes couch gun once it’s used for home defense

Those pockets hold a pretty good amount of shells, though. Bathrobes are more tactical than l've previously thought.

"I shoot a shotgun about as much as the average person who is buying a shotgun for home defense" - that is to say, not at all

Carl may be more experienced with shotguns, but Ian is clearly more skilled at wearing a dressing gown.

Modern firearm innovations aren’t driven by engineers, but by lawyers

"We borrowed these from a Hi Point collector." •thows them on the floor after shooting•

Maybe Mossberg should market the Shockwave not as "The best home defense shotgun" but rather as "A 26.5" middle finger to the NFA."

I love how Ian is just chilling, looking cool as a cucumber, with his bathrobe, and his shades, and his sick ass hat, and Karl is so fiery, leaning in, waving his hands, quick drawing a shotgun adamantly ready to fistfight any man who dares support a PGO shotgun. Their dynamic together is the #1 reason that I ALWAYS watch InRange when I see both of them in the thumbnail.

Ian 9:07 "had a little fiddly with the thing there" Love hearing a Gun Guru say something like that lol

The Title Should Read : Two Guys One Bathrobe

"I would take a Type 94 Nambu over______" is a strong statement in any situation.

If the stress of a timer is enough to make an experienced shooter miss, then imagine the stress of an actual self defense/home Invasion scenario for the average person.

"you missed!" -"consider it your warning shot!"

Bath robe makes this vid 100x better.

Wait let me get this right, are you telling me being able to AIM increases your chances of hitting a target?

Nice information. Just over from the OG Danger Show that directed me here for this info!

“Average: dead” RIP Ian. Gotta go back to the Berthier for home defense

It’s all fun and games for the intruder until he notices he’s in front of the a-10 warthog I parked in my living room

You can see Ian get progressively more pissed the more he has to shoot the PGO

I think this is my favourite video you guys have ever done. When signposting people to your channel I recommend this video first

Relating to loading a slug into a pistol grip shotgun and shooting it: I have done that. I was shooting bird shot at a radiator and I loaded a magnum slug in on accident. I was holding my 870 in front of my face (idk why) and took the end of the pistol grip between my nose and mouth. Any higher, would've broken my nose, any lower and I'd have a few less teeth. It hit my face so hard right above my front teeth, it actually poked a small hole in my face/lip. Bled like a SOB. It happens to the best of us...

Pssh, all you need for home defence if you don't have a side by side, pump action or semi auto shotgun is a Brown Bess. Miss your shot and you've got black powder smoke screen cover that'll give you time to relocate and plug bayonet for liberation of homestead

I laughed when Ian shot the shorty and it said Average: DEAD

The addition of the housecoat in the middle of the desert..........it's the little details that set you guys apart and make you one of the best gun channels on RU-vid👍

I used to shoot 12 bore shotguns a lot. I have to say, the third intruder would have to be completely insane to still be there after his two mates get blown away, not just because of the huge holes in them but also the amount of noise in a confined space. I would prefer the double barrelled over anything that needed thought to recharge if you didn't use it regularly and you were in a high stress environment.

I love Ian's slow contemplation of Karl: "Is is worthless?" Ian: "... ... yes."

The answer is couch gun and a home defense tomahawk.

I'd be interested to see how the Shell holders and Auto-ejector would affect the performance.

I'd love to see this revisited with a semi-auto, an actual Shockwave (buy one used so you don't have to pay Mossberg) and a Stoeger Double-defense, which is supposedly made for home defense (though it still doesn't have ejectors for some reason).

In the double barrel's defence, if three intruders break into your house and you waste two of his buddies the third guy probly isn't gonna stick around

"Yeah this isn't our gun, we borrowed it from a friend..." *throws it on the ground* Dude, I love you guys hahaha!

I keep coming back to this video for it's comedic value...the "average: dead" part is one of my favorites

I've always been a fan of a standard stocked pump action shotgun as perfect for home defense & thought the pistol grips stupid but I'm pretty swayed by the double barreled coach gun as even if you have 3 intruders trying to steal your stuff I think shooting even one of them is likely to make the others get the hell out of Dodge. I mean if you have enemies who send assassins after you then sure you'll want more rounds but I've yet to encounter that problem in my life.

As a german obeying the local gun laws, my HD procedure is as follows: Run to the corner, grab the unloaded muzzleloader, approach assailant and immediately smack the rifle firmly on his head. (Powder has to be stored under lock and key and is available for blackpowder-permit-holders only)

*Embrace the Succ* with the Mossberg Pistol Grip Shotgun -Mossberg sales pitch, 2019

Y’all should really do more myth busting. With so many “tactical trainers” spewing B.S. you two are a light in the darkness. Also that was funny as hell.

The reasons to own a no stock shotgun for home defense -It was quickest access -It's all I have loaded -It was a gift and all I have -only thing I could get in a reasonable amount of time* Buying -I rather use it than a knife Jokes begin -I was cleaning my other guns(always have one gun ready to defend other guns) -I grab the wrong one -I rather die with it than a hi point

So clearly the answer to this video is the best weapon for home defense is the Chiappa Triple Threat

Finally a category where the Chiappa Triple Threat may actually be useful?

What I learned from this is that a tactical bathrobe like the one they are wearing is the perfect accessory to a shotgun because it holds a lot of extra shot-shells in a convenient location for a fast reload.

"Embrace the suck," should be the motto for all the weird you -guys- guns you showcase here and on _Forgotten Weapons._

This is Top Gear with guns and if I wasn't in these financial straits I'd be one of the people on Patreon support squad. This is so good.

Someone takes Ian's dear hostage Ian: "I doubt it"

I would like to see this done in a shoot house around corners. The whole point of tactical shotgun (pistol grip / shockwave) is clearing rooms or navigating tight spaces. A wide open space doesn't compare to the hallway corner leading to my bedroom. That said, this is still a very useful and convincing demonstration.

"Goon Cannon" A pump action, 12 gauge shotgun with the stock chopped off.

*YEA THAT'S RIGHT, EMBRACE THE SUCC THERE!* - Ian, 2k17

120mm heat has true one shot stopping power versus an unarmored assailant.

This might be the best argument for shooting glasses I've ever seen.

"Had a little bit of a fiddly with the thing there" - Ian McCollum

this is one of the best InRange videos ever

embrace the succ

Consider a laser sight. I'd like to see you do an experiment on that for the PGO variety.

Great work guys, realistics tests and even though biased, fair reviews of skills vs tactics vs viability. The industry needs more from honest reviewers.

"Well known hi-point collector" - you earned my thumbs up.

I absolutely love your guys' sense of humor.

Conclusion: Stocks are faster because your shoulder makes a good foundation for when you're cycling the action.

Would be curious to see how the Shockwave would hold up with its bird-head grip. Also curious to see how the coach gun would do if it had ejectors.

Love it, even when you guys are being serious, you still look like you're having so much fun. Awesome vid guys!

"PGO average was DEAD" Lmao I love this channel.

"Shotguns have to be aimed." Remind me again, what was that one sawed off where the shells were _sticking out of the front of the shotgun?_ Because that's not aiming. That's pointing in a general direction and spraying a room.

I’m just happy to watch another Shotgun video from you both. 🤠👍🏼

Two things. One, the Shockwave grip is WAY more comfortable than the old vertical wrist breaker pistol grips. I've shot full power buck and slug with mine, no problem... and I'm not a hulk of a man. Second, in some states you are not permitted to have a loaded rifle or shotgun in your vehicle, but the not a shotgun Shockwave fits into an "other" category and gets you around the stupid laws.

You guys didn't compare it with both a Vietnam era AR-15 and a Soviet era AK-47, both with and without regular mud and original Vietnamese mud, for ultimate extreme cross-comparingnessity.

9:06 " had a little bit of a, a fiddley, with the uh, thing there."

Reasons I actually like the Shockwave: 1. The bird’s head grip is far more comfortable to shoot than a PGO, and makes it just as easy to click the safety as a normal stock. So the combo of a having a shorter barrel while also being easier to shoot makes it better than a Persuader in my opinion. 2. Like they said, it is a middle finger to the NFA. To be able to own what is essentially a “legal sawed-off” pump without paying a tax stamp or getting approval from the ATF, is worth the price of admission for folks who like shotguns. Even if it’s just used as a cool range toy. 3. In very specific conditions, I believe the Shockwave can be practical. For instance, it’s compact size means it can be carried in a hiking backpack or large saddlebag on a motorcycle. It can also be easily maneuvered within the confines of a vehicle, as well as a small living space. As an example, my wife and I used to live in a sort of converted “home bus” that had very tight moving space where something of that size would have been much easier to use. But all that being said, yes, 95% of the time, a PGO or Shockwave would be rather impractical. And if you only have the money for one shotgun, it would be dumb to get one without a stock.

Can we get an in range Tshirt with the pgs and "embrace the suck"?

I actually did use my nagant revolver in a home defense scenario because that was what I had at hand and I succeeded in defending my home with my Nagant. Do I make Stalin proud like a good commissar should?

I’d agree with Ian on the single intruder, yes the chances of needing more than one or two rounds is highly unlikely but the mental stress would be a greater disadvantage. I’d rather know that I have more than enough shots ready then fear I might run out.

“Had a little bit of a fiddly with the thing there.” -Ian McCollum, 2017

I ever see this guy coming at me in his bathrobe, I be runnin' for the hills so damn fast he'd have to mail me the ammo.

Could you guys run this again some time with a coach gun that had extractors? I feel like it'd make a huge difference.

Great content. You guys are always making excellent productions. I was brought back here to this presentation from Officer Gregg -OG’s Danger Show. Keep those eyes safe. Thank you for the video.

Hi guys, I have watched this segment a few times and it still made me chuckle, but also you set up very practical tests that produce real information....i would take the coach gun every time of course, v groovy in my book.

Idle thought: couldn’t you just have a mosquito net and release thousands of bees into your house instead?

"Embrace the suck" -Ian, 2017 yes i am always this immature

I really think a double barrel with ejectors and good ammo in a shell carrier is way more viable than one would think. Might be interesting in a comparison with a pump....

extra thumbs up on the audio quality!! I'm digging the low end bass tone at the end of shots

Who would've thought making an attempt at aiming led to greater accuracy

Everytime I watch you guys together I think, these are the most dangerous guys at Starbucks. Lol hipsters shooting from the hip. Love your channel btw

I would like to have seen them add a semi-auto; you get an immediate follow up shot like you do with the coach gun but with more rounds. Adding a Remington V3 or Benelli M2 would've been interesting.

You know they’re useless when even the atf hasn’t gone after them.

I always prefer the shoulder mounted "Predator" style shotgun myself. I load it up with magnum slug rounds because from what youtube has told me is if a bad guy has a thick leather coat on a 9mm pistol is useless against that kind of protection.

Almost as confusing as British shotgun law in which a shotgun must have a minimum barrel length of 24 inches and be able to be loaded with a maximum of 3 shells unless it it held on a Firearms licence as opposed to a Shotgun licence, in which case it can have an unlimited magazine capacity (detachable mag or non detachable is OK) but unlike all other firearms such as rifles which are subject to a 11 3/4 inch barrel length, a shotgun must still retain the 24 inch minimum length (as obviously in the eyes of the legislators it is a far more dangerous weapon than a 11 3/4 inch 308) so yes, firearms laws everywhere are crazy when you look into them! Re the stock/no stock argument, I am with Ian's view a million percent. In South Africa in the 90's I carried a fully stocked shortened Benelli M1 with a 16 inch barrel as a car defence weapon (against car jackers who kill 90 per cent of their victims in SA even after they hand over the car cash and jewellery, so surrender is not an option) and it proved far more handy and quicker to 'come to arms' than my friends pistol griped 500 Mossy. It is also the reason I am still here to write this. If you are still reading then I am surprised that I am not boring the pants off you but the double barrel was an interesting prompt. In Britain we use side by sides and over and under guns which are always ejectors and often assisted openers for speed because on an organised game shoot we will often fire 500 to 1000 shells a day at high (60 yard plus) driven game. A pump or auto is useless compared to a pair of matched guns and an experienced loader working a a team which allows continuous stained fire. That is a test these guys should do but they would need ejectors not stage coach guns!

Good video guys. sharing and thanks for the good info.

There is a perception that pump action is more reliable than semi-auto shotguns. I would love to see an Inrangetv video showing which is better for home defense.

Also we need a shirt that has a PGO shotgun and the quote "embrace the suck"

Mossberg at next ShotShow: The Mossberg 9,000 Tactical Blunderbuss is the ULTIMATE and ONLY home defense weapon you will ever need!

Love my Shock wave is the one for me with everything I put in it. Even on my Rancho in New Mexico. Good video.

I have only picked up the short no stock shotgun - you proved what I thought - thanks

Hey Ian and Karl, you saying that "if you're not testing on the clock, you're not testing" got me thinking - with your mud tests, you could (from here on out) time how long it takes from the first malfunction to ready to fire condition.

A Well known Hi-Point collector? Is there such a thing?

That has to be one of the best videos the pair of you have ever done. This is the 3rd time I have watched.

This and the ww1 melee video you guys did are by far my favorite vids. I think Ian and Karl make a good team.

Now, Nagant revolver VS Pistolgrip shotgun in home defence situation.

You don't often find a video that serves as the last word in a debate but you accomplished it with this.

Clearly, the Burgess folding shotgun is the answer we need if you're living in the little Japanese box houses.

I like that you show bloopers as well