As a Cards fan, I’m so relieved Chavez’s catch wasn’t the difference. That play is shown all the time and instead of it being a painful reminder, I can just admire one of the greatest catches of all time.
As a cards fan, I really appreciate the context for this game and series. I remember being absolutely shocked that Chavez stole that homer from Rolen. If the Mets win this series and then the WS, that catch is one of the greatest in baseball history. Unfortunately for Mets fans, it didn’t work out and its largely forgotten. The strikeout of Beltran is one of the nastiest pitches every, especially considering Beltran’s history against the cards. He used to torch us in the playoffs as part of the astros killer B’s. Great content either way.
As a Mets fan for almost 60 years, trust me, it's not forgotten.... That Mets team was better than the Cards. But like usual the Cards got hot at the right time. They always do this shit. Piazza should have retired a Met. Would have made a difference. We really missed Pedro. 😢 ALWAYS SWING AT THE FIRST PITCH, ITS GOING TO BE A FASTBALL!!!!!!!!
I first started watching baseball after a trip to New York in 2006. I’m from England, so I didn’t know a thing about the game. I remember going for a trip to Shea Stadium one day so I could cross it off my list. The Mets were playing the Florida Marlins and as I stood outside the stadium taking photos, I got chatting to a local who kindly walked me through the basic rules of the game. Seemed fine. It was a game I was never interested in, but it was nice to chat with a New York native. I arrived back in England, which is five hours ahead of New York, and slipped back into my normal routine of chronic insomnia. I rarely slept more than an hour, so much of the nighttime was spent drowsily flicking through the TV channels. I had no idea they showed MLB on British television. Two shows a week, showing a live game on Wednesday and Sunday. It was halfway through July 2006 and by the beginning of August I was completely obsessed with the game. I knew all the stats from that year and was eagerly looking forward to the postseason where my Mets team would annihilate all the other teams on the way to the World Series. The Dodgers were good, but not great. The Cardinals were pretty mediocre with just a few good players (and one god). But the Mets had Reyes, Wright, Delgado, Glavin, Wagner and, the best of the bunch, Carlos Beltran. Detroit had collapsed in the second half of 2006, so I was pretty confident we’d beat them after we saw off the Cards. Well, I didn’t get to watch Game 7 against St. Louis because it wasn’t on British TV, so I had to watch the score unfold on the internet. I never knew the details of the final AB. I found out a year later from a Yankees fan in a bar when I returned to New York to watch the Mets win four straight games in September (yes, they actually won four straight games against the Astros and Braves… and I was there to watch all of them) on their way to another certain postseason. But, the Mets are the Mets, didn’t yet have Yohan Santana, and the Phillies had Ryan Howard and Chase Utley amongst others and the rest is history. I’d love to see this 2022 Mets team go all the way. They’re a true team and they have one of the greatest pitchers to ever take the mound. I should’ve put tl;dr at the beginning, but if you came this far, you’re probably a Mets fan and you’re glad your crazy team has such a positive impact on a guy who lives 3,000 miles away.
I remember watching that game, being a Cardinal fan, the last guy I wanted to see up in the bottom of the 9th with the bases loaded was Beltran because he absolutely owned the Cardinals when he was an Astro during the ‘04 and ‘05 NLCS. One thing people forget about that Cardinal team, they won over a 100 games the previous 2 seasons and the core of those teams was still intact in 2006. They had a lot of injuries that season and got everyone back just before the playoffs began that season
U have no clue what we Mets fans have been thru. Yadier and Wainwright still in the damn league since they killed us in 06’! Their existence won’t let the nitemare end
The cards only won because Detroit pitchers couldnt field they made 8 errors. The tigers have the distinction of losing to the two worst World Series winners of all-time. ‘87 twins and ‘06 cardinals.
9:40 The first pitch to Beltran was a changeup, not a fastball; notice the 84 MPH speed. That’s what froze Beltran as Wainwright at that time rarely threw a changeup. One of the few times to this day Wainwright ever shaked off Yadi. Source: 2006 Cardinals World Series DVD
Na that’s not what happened. After the bases were loaded yadi went out to talk adam about what to throw...They decided on a fast ball to start. But then when yadi got back to home plate he started thinking and got worried about adam leaving a fastball out over the plate for Beltran. So instead he gave adam the ‘scratch that,follow me‘ gesture and put down change-up.
I've been a Mets fan since 1965 so I've seen and heard it all. Both the good and the bad. Unfortunately, there's been more bad than good. They lost their first place lead last night to the Braves. As a seasoned Mets fan I can't help but get that feeling of "here we go again."
As a Mets fan I read the title and instantly knew what you were talking about. I cried after this for the first and only time ever over a sports event 😢
74 mph. Cards fan here which is how I got to this video, but I appreciate your attitude and look forward to your excitement when the Mets do win it all. Subscribed!
@@thefinzchats Not so sure on the "last year" bit... He might have one more in the tank. I mean, with the way he's still pitching at 41, he undoubtedly does... But it all comes down to whether or not his family wants him to go another year or not.
As a Mets fan since 1998, that Wainwright curveball in the 2006 postseason gave me PTSD ever since. Cards went on to win 2 titles and the Mets? 0, zip,nada.
@@thefinzchats definitely seems like it. Since Bobby Cox became general manager in the late 1980's before becoming on field manager that Braves organization really began excellent at scouting and developing.
As a Yankee fan , I love the surreal love of baseball and disaster in the same moment , or simply put ; how do the Mets find new ways to embarrass themselves . Tough being a Met fan , but then again life isn’t just baseball !😊
Now I know that being a Mets fan these days is similar to being a Rockies fan for the entirety of the franchise’s history. I’ve been a Rockies fan since the historic 2007 postseason comeback and epic World Series collapse to Boston, and they’ve had similar collapses, such as the 2009 NLDS choke to the Phillies.
I don't think Mets fans have to suffer through quite a terrible front office though... I don't think they ever gave a team $50 million dollars to take their *best* player off their hands.
Watching this as a Braves fan as we take sole position of first for the first time all year (I don't think the division is over, will go back and forth the rest of the way,) and yeah. It all seems to be lining up just as you described it.
That Mets Cardinals NLCS was one of, if not the greatest NLCS ever played. That 2006 Mets team wins it all imo if Pedro Martinez and El Duque never got hurt.
You could save yourself a lot of misery as a Mets fan if you thought of the Royals as less of a team whose best player was Eric Hosmer and more of a team that was Madison Bumgarner away from winning back-to-back WS titles and had the best modern day bullpen.
The first pitch of the Beltran at bat was actually a change, not a fastball. It’s hard to tell from the camera angle, and Mike Shannon got in wrong in the Cardinals radio call.
As a baseball fan, I feel for your pain. But as a Cards fan, few memories feel as good as watching Waino drop “Uncle Charlie” into Yadi’s mitt to strike Beltran out and to win the series!!! GO CARDS!!!
@@thefinzchats, please don't take the joy of Cardinal fans of that strikeout personally. It has nothing to do with the long suffering of Mets fans but EVERYTHING to do with the Red Birds experience in the '04 NLDS. Beltran tormented the Cards with an OTHER WORLDLY .417/.563/.958 (BA/OPS/SLG) performance and effectively single-handedly defeated the Cardinals in that series. Waino's strikeout was cathartic payback for the entire city... I wish your team all the success in the world (unless they're playing my boys with the birds on the bat😉)
As a mets fan since 1990 its not easy but as I type the mets lost to the marlins and are now half a game behind guess who the braves.i know when if the mets don't win a division they will still be in the post season so at least if they choke these last games of the regular season they can choke in the playoffs.i have seen alot of bad years and as a fan yes its frustrating but being someone who was born in Brooklyn and raised in queens the mets are a tradition and represents my old stopping grounds queens new york also living 10 minutes from shea and now citi field I been to alot alot of games.anyway real mets fans are passionate about there team and as bad as they are or how much they lose we will still and always be there rooting for them and maybe one day if they win there 3rd worldseries it will be very very special and a great moment for true mets fans.lets go mets!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If that 2006 line up had the 2015 pitching... The Mets would probably be 110 -52 with a championship under their belt. The best line up was probably that 2006 team over the last 25 years or so. Deadly!!! We just needed pitching like in 2015... No doubt in my mind though that the world series was indeed played in the NLCS.... Detroit had no chance against whom ever, i just knew it. Sorry Tigers fans! This is coming from a Mets fan. We know about broken heart! In 2006 we won the battles, but lost the war! 97-65. If our closing wasn't so sketchy, we'd be champs. Please Mets, restore family day and banner day.... PS: I don't blame Beltran as much as i look at the relief and how Wagner seem to be ineffective. Randolph i believe even to this day still made the right choice with Heilman.
As a Cards fan, I was shocked but happy they won this series after losing on the postseason constantly since 1996 at that point. Only unfortuate thing was it was my first year in Los Angeles that year and I couldn't celebrate in Missouri. Wainwright became a Cardinals legend that series.
I honestly blame the 2006 NLCS loss on Guillermo Mota. In game 2 he had a batter 0-2 swinging at balls in the dirt and then gave up a 2-run triple to that same batter to lose the game
Hey look. I am a life long Braves fan so I can relate... My ex is a huge Mets fan and I know he is sweating it out with Atl only back 1. Anyway, I enjoyed the video. You have a knack for drawing us in and laughing with ya!! Thanks
I’m not a Mets fan, so I can’t speak about how much Mets fans have suffered, but, being 52 years old and taking the long view of things, I would think that for Mets fans my age or older, 1986 (especially game six of the World Series) would counterbalance any and all disappointments in the history of the franchise, and 86 and 69 together should definitely outweigh anything else. I mean, you had possibly THE greatest, most memorable moment in the history of sports go in your favor to keep you alive in a World Series that you went on to win, And you had maybe the greatest rags to riches Cinderella story in the history of sports 17 years earlier… Two legendary, historic success stories, which is probably more than a lot of franchises have had in that same time period.
I love how you refer to the fact that to be a Mets fan is to really know what it means to experience the pain of disappointment but I also think the fact that we always remain optimistic is something to be said to our credit.
Have you been watching the last few days? They lost 2 of 3 to the Nats who are one of the worst hitting teams in the NL. Scherzer taken out as a precaution means he's perilously close to reinjuring the oblique muscle that kept him out earlier this year. I've got a bad feeling about this.
@@thefinzchats Even though it seems the stakes are high at the end of the day it’s just a game. I think pretty much every professional baseball player gives it their all even if they’re in a slump. Yeah, some of them are jerks, yeah some of them are not team players but whatever. I love this game and I love my Mets. ✊🏼
As a Yankees fan, I was actually rooting for the Mets to win that series so that we could have a Subway World Series. Mets were on the verge of history by forcing the first game 7 after a 3-0 deficit. Having one of the greatest and most thrilling playoff games and series end on a bases-loaded walk was crushing.
I am a die hard Mets fan since I was 7 years old in 1999! Make sure to continue to make these types of videos I subbed and I’m gonna watch this whole video and see your other videos on this channel! LFGM!!
I was born in 2003 and this Mets team stitched very early memories for me when it comes to MLB. Especially since I was a Phillies fan as a kid. I’ll never forget Utley’s game winning hit and RBI against the Mets in 2007 for the Phillies to take the lead in the NL East division against the Mets. I was up in New Jersey watching it with my cousins who were Mets fans. I’ll never forget the look on their faces. Even if I was just 4. They were sick and horrified. We grew up mocking each other especially since I was a huge Utley fan, the known Met killer. I’m a Orioles fan now (switched when I was nine because I live in Maryland) but I always have a special place in my heart for the Phillies and will always remember that early 2000s Phillies vs Mets rivalry.
The Mets look really good this year. They have the best pitching staff in Baseball, and have a stacked lineup. They looked primed for another upset by the Cardinals in the playoffs this year. At least this Cardinals team will have likely won more than 83 games.
The Mets have had every chance to make the last three games vs the Braves meaningless. But, of course they lost 3 of 4 in Atlanta and now are getting pummeled by the worst teams in the NL. Those last three games vs the Braves might still be meaningless because Atlanta may have clinched the division by then.
And not even two days later The Atlanta Braves who are on a 6 game winning streak catch the Mets who are on a 3 game loosing streak as both teams are racing for a division title
Man I wouldn’t be surprised if some Mets fans forget about Endys’ catch. I for one as a cardinals fan still have that catch stuck in my head. The pain I felt when I saw him catch that was immense
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I'm always somehow refering to that... I call it curse of the Edsel... But in this case its curse of the Ets-el! There is something about that ets that must be cursed!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What made the 'caught looking' so frustrating is that it didn't dip low, it dipped RIGHT into the middle of the plate, at about 60 MPH. It literally looked like a slow pitch softball pitch . Most of the men in the stands could have smashed it..
The Mets have become a franchise that looks like the season will be a Trader Joe’s in store experience but ends up being a Trader Joe’s parking lot experience.
@@thefinzchats id say 1988. The Mets win 100 games and gets destroyed by the Dodgers. Derailed what could have been a dynasty and starts a downturn that took years to recover
I was waiting for him to have predicted this latest Slide the Mets have done. They are now out of first place and plummeting. The Yankees are plummeting a little slower but the Rays will overtake them and New York will not have anyone in the World Series this year
Being here now it's only 22 you guys picked up Max Scherzer who is hurt now you got Jacob degrom who is just now coming back he's all right but that's it will you win division or will you be a wild card will the Atlanta Braves get hot and when the division once again time will tell
As a Yankees fan, it's hard to relate to that pain (despite some pain the Yankees brought up). So I'll say this, those 2006 Tigers literally made them shit their pants and did the same 6 years later.
The Cardinals weren't that great in the 2006 regular season but got hot in the postseason..The pitch didn't necessarily doom the Mets..The Mets were decent in 07 and 08..The NY Mets were positioned to win the NL East in 2007 and 2008 before September started but blew it, collapsed, and didn't make the Playoffs in 07 or 08 ⁉📚🌇💺🏙🎫Shea Stadium for the NY Mets saw a lot of baseball excitement for the 2006, 2007, and 2008 seasons..Mets made NLCS in 2006 but collapsed in Septembers of 07 and 08..Shea Stadiums was torn down after 2008 season..
I forgot about the stinker Glavine threw in Game 5 when the Mets gave him a 2-0 lead. He should receive equal blame to Beltran but of course that's not how these things work. We only remember the guy who blew it at the very end ala Buckner in 1986.
im sorry yall lost to my 2 fav teams in the cards/royals. that 06 mets team was insane and if the mets wouldnt of choked in 15 the series would of went 6 or 7 and could of easily ended differently
You wanna talk about pissing away victory. Nothing.....and I mean nothing beats the Rangers 2011 World Series loss to the Cardinals. They were 1 strike away from winning. Twice.......and Nelson Cruz forgets how to catch.
Really... Mets fans are the most determined? This Mariner fan has never seen the world series... went 21 years between playoff appearances... and is still here.
This dude is clearly too young to understand being a Mets fan. It actually began right after they won the 86 World Series. 1987, they were supposed to be better and everyone got hurt, 88 they lost to Mike Sciosia and the Dodgers when they were the best team in the league. Trend continued with horrifically bad teams, Strawberry leaving and Generation K becoming a failure in the mid 90s. Then falling short of the postseason in 97 and 98 when they only had to win 1 game. Battles with the Braves in 1999, losing to the Yankees in the 2000 World Series,a deal for ARod falling apart, Griffey nixing a trade to the Mets, underachieving in 2001. Art Howe being a failure along with Robby Alomar and Mo Vaughn.
The pitch beltran fouled off early in the at bat.... i think it was second pitch.... that's the pitch that keeps me up at night if I'm beltran. Not the strike out pitch.
To say Beltran is a choke artist for striking out in the bottom of the 9th. in game 7 pf the 2006 NLCS is not only unfair but also inaccurate. Nobody would have hit that curve Wainwright broke off, no matter what the situation.
@@thefinzchatsHe swung at the second pitch and fouled it off, a curve on the inside part of the plate. Without Beltran, it is doubtful that the Mets even make it to postseason play in 2006. Everyone wants to blame Beltran, but what about the blown save by Billy Wagner in game 2. If Wagner takes care of business in that game, the series doesn’t even get to a game 7.
