The Pivot on Diddy 

This is the first time I’ve heard men say they could care less about how long it takes women to speak out. Very mature. 💯

This is by far the most adult and well thought about conversation, I have witnessed on RU-vid concerning this whole P. Diddy matter. Well done Guys

Mannn don’t ever put Michael Jackson in these conversations. I’m disappointed for that

He's not a target....he brought this on himself!!! if he did it once the odds are he did it twice...period!!

I hate when people mention Michael Jackson in these convos

This is the most intellectual and real conversation about the Diddy case I've heard on a podcast.

Why did Michael Jackson name come up? 😅 He beat the false allegations.

Crowders face 😂😂😂😂

That Jackie hoody fire!!!

I truly enjoy this podcast. The discussions, especially this one are always based on logical thinking and not emotional, yet accepting and validating the emotions of others. You three are intelligent and funny.

He didnt let the evidence play out in court bc she dropped names and there would be subpoenas everywhere. She gave enough detail that could be supported that he had to pay her. The other cases may not have been as strong as cassie's to prove so he can fight them. Plus, if he wants to salvage his kid's inheritance, he will have to fight. His companies force him to step out of position cause they will have to pay out too.

Thank you for allowing us to hear this caliber of man thought and perspective on the Diddy case.

Oj stay catchin strays😂

Don’t always agree with Ryan but the man is a TRUE class act, and was one heck of a force on the gridiron

Aye man He said “Yep. A lot of showers everyday” 💀 come on 😂😩

A lot of dudes who has kids be the one, so saying "I have kids" don't mean nothing.

I was raped by my dad and blocked it out for years and years and so for RYAN CLARK to say he doesn’t care how long it has been . THANK YOU for that .. people don’t understand the brain and trauma and how at least in my case I disassociated from it .. there needs to be NO STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS !! My dad was black out drunk the 3 times he did it and became sober later in life when I confronted him and he denied it and so I left all of them .. it is the hardest thing to live with period .. I am 56 and it happened when I was 15 and 16. MOST of us won’t want to go through the whole thing again to put someone in jail or sue or whatever .. because it is with us 24/7 again .. this is why most women that say something .. especially if there is more than one accusation are being TRUTHFUL ..

Channing. Like the Saw movie... hahahaha I love how He said, "if you take advantage and hurt any living thing" love ....

I appreciate the convo but I dislike when people say they have a daughter, it makes them responsible , so if you had sons, it wouldn’t matter?

I really love this podcast!!! They have intelligent conversations!

Does anyone sense a bit of hesitation to call a spade a spade? Do any of them seem to be extremely careful about what and how they say what they say?

"In a saw movie" 😂😂😂

Love the hoodie RC!!

Cassie didn’t just sue Diddy she sued everyone connected so somewhere down the line the other people and law team said if Cassie goes to court and wins you all might be going to jail.

Amen 🙏 lock em all up

#Cassie has more balls than any of them, and California has extended this law until 2026

We should have that energy for Kobe Bryant as well

DeShawn Watson you had him guilty because so many victims came up, but you don't got same energy for Diddy

Make him take multiple showers per day 😂..

Leave MJ out of this

Aye, Leave MJ tf outta this lmao

📌 There is No statue of limitations on Rape in NYS. … I commend them for having this conversation.

We don’t come forward for years out of fear and pain that we went through a period of sexual harassment, abuse, rape, etc. not knowing if I would be believed. I finally spoke up years later. So glad I did.

What a great conversation to sit in on and hear. ✨#Imafan

Thank you Ryan for truth! You guilty of rape and beating Cassie, you should be in jail!!!! I love the Pivot!!!

Did mike settle out of court for any of his cases? Cause to me, theres a difference between accused, and convicted or settled

Ryan car gon blow up on accident 😂😂😂😂 diddy keep receipts he just tryin not to get rkelly'd right now.

Literally everyday somebody accusing him

what great men

Ryan did all that pre text to say something so melancholy.

Im in agreement with MJ being still mentioned in situations like Diddy. I believe MJ is always mentioned by whomever because of the allegations piece, but when one is exonerated, one should NEVER BE MENTIONED in similarities. Still a fan of the Pivot, played ball and a fan of football.

🔬Messing with honeycomb🍯🍯 you wine up Gay, Dead or Broke🔬

The Pivot of this all is…why didn’t he counter sue for “defamation of character” against Cassie❓To me that says it all. There was no fight whatsoever. To me that’s guilt bc he KNEW something if not ALL of what she depicted was in fact TRUE‼️ He knew he wouldn’t win. She was specific and had dropped a lot of ppl names in there so there were proof beyond what was needed for factual documentation.

NASTY WORK

Y'all saying leave Michael out of this 😐😐👀👀 y'all the same ones that still play Rkelly songs

The court of popular opinion on social media doesn’t matter.

Listen multiple people ain’t telling the same lie. Maybe they have added extra but there is a lot of truth. There should not be a limit on when you can speak. It takes people years to get the strength to speak about things. There are things at 40 I’ve now been able to share with other young women to help them. I was disgusted reading the affidavit. A lot makes sense. I feel like the proof needs to be laid out bluntly to the world. We need to be knocked upside the head Frfr. This world is about money and power. People are doing some crazy things. But we’re obsessed with the fake image we have of them.

People have already made up their minds what side they going to pick

Lot off 🚿showers 😜😜 Make me 😢

I just don’t believe she went far enough to get real justice. All the shit he put her through a few dollars out of his billions won’t heal that

When allegations are wrong, there is no stiff penalty for the women it just goes away

Ppl Have been Saying This things for YRS. PNASTY HAS BEEN SUED BEFORE CASSIE

MJ should not be talked about in a negative dialog

Nice shirt eeeow ❤. Unfortunately women are not viewed as human beings anymore!

Everybody making this seem like it’s so simple. They know in the 90s from the freak down in Houston and places like that what they have freaking needs they just don’t go away they just get a different spend on it so they was already used to live in that lifestyle in the 90s And when you start doing that 90s behavior in the future is a no no because people know better now they know what that mean now back then when they was doing it no one felt like it was wrong you know the girls come down there they dress, sexy and a lot of stuff happened down there. They don’t wants to talk about with the freak, so everybody has these parties not just puff he just getting caught but that behavior was anybody old and if you’re young, I advise you not to be hanging around older people because they live a lifestyle that you’re not accustomed to These kids be so ready to be in a celebrity and you stepping into a world where people have already got behaviors from people from the 50s till now and you round these people without your parent and you’re going off at 1415 16,17 years old and you around behaviors that you don’t understand and you want to be a celebrity so bad that you agree to it would she not be doing this if the pandemic happened and now no one has no money now everybody’s drawing straws to put blame and get money so they can take care of their self now I’m just saying it’s crazy you wait all these years to prosecute

I appreciate a male speaking on this topic .. We need to educate ourselves more so these victims to free free and not judged when exposing the truth

My only issue with these topics is the way everyone only thinks SA only happens to females. The samething is happening to the men in these stories now think if it takes women along time to finally speak their truth, imagine a man. Ppl lets just keep tye same energy for everyone male or female

Who is this person?

Is there proof yet or are we still discussing public opinion? Just asking

How Ryan even get in the league

You hear these sell outs talking lightly about Diddy, but for DeShawn Watson, rkelly, tory lanes

1, is so close to none. 4 5 6, means your ass is in the mix.

Please don’t mention Michael Jackson with this nonsense from Puffy and RKelly.

$30M

I don't believe you going back 50 years in someone past to bring up anything

Not in jail the rock piles I put to many men who beat their out there and they all had a come Jesus moment they never saw my face or heard voice but they felt the pain and some still walk with cane or a limp but they never hit a woman again

I agree with what the hosts said but it makes me question at what point do these celebrities hold other celebrities accountable. They have had Charlagmagne on their podcast and he is an individual who has an allegation against him from a woman who has bravely spoken about what she alledges he did to her when she was 15. Charlagmagne has even laughed and joked on air about putting Spanish fly in women's drinks, which is what that young women alledges he did to her. Yet people sit there and laugh and joke with him. In my opinion this is why people like P Diddy are able to continue their disgusting behaviour for so long. Because people in the industry continue working with them and turn a blind eye to what im sure a lot are aware is going on.

Y’all stop talking about this sh!t through a lens of, “well I have a daughter or (daughters).” I don’t have any kids….throw him under the damn jail! Better yet put him in general population without preferential treatment. I don’t need to have kids to want these predators off the streets, doing the toughest time possible!

Keep MJ mane out

What about Josh giddy?

Nah, don't throw Mike into this convo.

Product placement.. Mike was innocent… diddy was accused of more then SA .. and as a career block he needs to be punished

As someone who knows Cassie, she always had lip cuts, black eyes and marks on her wrists and bruises on her arms and shoulders. She wore heavy coverage foundation all the time. I know she was addicted to all the pills he pushed down her throat. She overcame that.

Notice how they bravely announced the punishment the person should get who dit it, but they didn't say what should happen to the person when it found out that the claim was false and that they were lying. 99% of these Men on these platforms rap to the same beat. They sang a different "cadence", they gone.

This is a cash grab. Cassie already announced shes going on tour. If you believe he's guilty you're guilty because any woman can lie and said you abused her. This is a L for any man with disposable income.

Don’t put Michael in this situation.

Like Ben Rothenberger! There's many in all leagues and entertainment fabulous is one...beating up girl friends! What about kobe... you can't just pick in, choose! But you all are scared of really having truthful conversations

Yeah but y'all can get on your podcast and talk about Russell Wilson a good man a good father people been talking about Diddy but you never got on your podcast and him shame on you😢😢

Nah

Yes, how do you separate the artist from the art? "What's the 411 cd Remix" by Mary J Blige. I love Teyana Taylor's " Closer to God". Both are amazing works of art, to me. Do I stop listening to these songs because of P Diddy? It's the same with R. Kelly, and Bill Cosby, both brilliant in their art.

I never like Diddy he always seems sketchy af

Innocent until proven guilty

Diddy isn’t as shocking as Will Smith smh there’s not a dude born in the 80’s that didn’t wanna be fresh prince which I have nothing against the 🌈 community but u can’t have str8 lil boys wanting to be like a 🌈 actor

Stop making excuses for people. They sit back and plot.

Stop bringing up Michael Jackson man. There was never any proof he did anything.

These brothers just did a show with the 2 Ohio State football players who were falsely accused of forcible gang R, and now, even with that knowledge, astonishingly, they are saying all the robotic, automatic things the system bids they say to bow down to metoo brainwashing. It's painful to see these brothers doing all the things the 2 Ohio State brothers said were done to them that devastated their lives. Cassie's suit was written by a lawyer - that's what they do. It was full of contradictions, inconsistencies and sensationalism.

Sooo if you didn't have daughters it wouldn't matter (I guess they mama and sistas dont matter) foh

🤖 This is a subject that's best left alone,i get the podcast wanting to jump on viral moments,and popular topics. But honestly none of us know Diddy's personal life,and without unmitigated factual evidence who knows what's true or not.Then the mention of Michael Jackson,it puzzles me he was at no time prosecuted for pedophilic acts.He settled in a civil suit who knows what legal advice he received,this happens all around the time of purchasing Caucasian music artist masters..

Why mention Michael?? It’s beyond irrelevant! - Just disrespectful.

Channing and Fred had a whole podcast with Brandon Marshall but now they want to take a stand to protect women? Something does nnot smell right here. Google Brandon Marshall's past then tell me why this seems hypocritical. SMH.

You all should stick to discussing sports. Your lack of empathy for victims show. Irregardless of being guilty or innocent you all have children, imagine someone violating them? Abusing them? Manipulating them? Domestic Violence is no joke, sexual abuse is no joke.

Its a money grab too . Just imagine if you couldnt get money for suing someone .. The only thing you get is them going to jail.. How many ppl you think would come out with things thats happened years ago... Its really anout ruining someones life..and or Taking their money .

This conversation was messy as hell and beneath your platform. 👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾

The only thing I don’t like about this case, is we never hear his account of what happened? Frankly, any woman can bring up a claim from back in the day on any guy including these gentlemen having the conversation. There’s a woman who can claim she didn’t want sex or that she had buyers remorse after the incident, and now she should be paid compensation. The line of victim and volunteer is very murky in these cases.

Very interesting to be talking about what they’re discussing with CELCIUS energy drinks siting around them, which Russell Simmons once owned significant amounts of shares and is in a lawsuit against Kimora to regain his rights to his percentage. Unless you can truly open your mind to understanding survivors of any form of abuse especially women who experience SA, you don’t get to decide whether or not there should be a limitation of statue. Some men are too stupid to understand that there is NO STATUE OF LIMITATION of certain crimes, especially those committed against minors and unaliving someone. This should be inclusive whether you have a personal investment or not, ALL VICTIMS OF SA SHOULD BE BELIEVED AND SUPPORTED REGARDLESS OF WHEN THEY CHOOSE TO COME FORWARD! STFU unless you are willing to do research, empathize and understand why many survivors remain silent instead of initially speaking out.

Broke people watch porn rich people can make it happen live. Porn is porn. Diddy probably had a lot of freaking nights but many got paid and they shouldn't be allowed to come back later and sue. Sorry Cassie could have removed herself from that situation. She got out didnt she? She was out for 5 years and now she wanted money to live the life she had with him. Both or victims. Right or wrong we have a choice. She was not lock in that relationship for 10 yrs.out the relationship for 5yrs husband babies and now devastated. Stop.