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The Plane that Can Beat an F-16 Fighting Falcon 

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In May of 1999, over 5,000 Pakistani soldiers crossed the Line of Control in Kargil into India’s side in an abrupt assault on international peace. India responded by mobilizing 200,000 troops, but the sky-reaching mountain summits only allowed 30,000 men to reach the battlefront.
However, this was not the same Indian Army the Pakistanis had encountered years before; in a formidable joint arms operation, the Indian ground troops were supported by an empowered Air Force.
Despite most of their aircraft being grounded due to lousy weather and unable to operate at such daunting altitudes, one fighter rose to the challenge: the Mirage 2000.
The small but impressively potent French aircraft climbed over the peaks of the Kashmir mountains delivering a devastating series of precision strikes that flushed the Pakistani forces out of Indian territory. Overwhelmed by superior firepower and international diplomatic pressure, Pakistan ultimately retreated.
The world sighed in relief as the two nuclear-armed powers stopped fighting. Even so, the formidable Mirage 2000 left a lasting impression, showing the world that sometimes the most monumental changes can come from the smallest packages…
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@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS Год назад
Okay, I realize it may be a chore to find 15 minutes worth of Mirage 2000 footage for a video, but..... 🤷🏽‍♂️
@TheOldEuropean
@TheOldEuropean Год назад
Exactly, newbies won't know which plane is the Mirage... No history of the evoluion from mirage III to Mirage 2000... Not Dark Skies best...
@markhepworth
@markhepworth Год назад
There is always some kind of fuckup in this guys stuff..
@Hypernefelos
@Hypernefelos Год назад
What do you mean, that was excellent footage of the Mirage 2000 Hornet.
@TheOldEuropean
@TheOldEuropean Год назад
@@Hypernefelos Well... I also saw some Mirage 21, some Mirage 27, and other types of Mirage...
@gregchambers6100
@gregchambers6100 Год назад
Maybe they should have a cartoonist on staff.
@d_revatron
@d_revatron Год назад
This could be one of their worst videos yet for using file footage completely irrelevant to the subject being talked about. Hornets, Typroons, Fulcrums, Fishbeds, Floggers etc.
@wcsii
@wcsii Год назад
NO SHIT!!!!
@christineshotton824
@christineshotton824 Год назад
The word around the campfire is that they do it intentionally to gin up lots of commentary for the algorithm. That's why I downvote every video with blatant and obvious errors like that.
@nathanclark4674
@nathanclark4674 Год назад
Perhaps that's why the French call it the 'Mirage'..because it has the ability to appear as things that it is not....like Hornets, Typhoons, Fulcrums, Fishbeds, Floggers...I thought exactly the same thing you did when I watched this ridiculous video. The damn Mirage is flown by about 25% of the world's air forces, for Pete's sake. Can't find enough footage?!!
@neilshark6361
@neilshark6361 Год назад
Yeah, so confusing.
@joshmajka4980
@joshmajka4980 Год назад
The only thing missing was the Spirit of St. Louis.
@themustardfarmer
@themustardfarmer Год назад
Watched this video about the Mirage 2000, and I still have no idea what a Mirage 2000 looks like😖
@jg3000
@jg3000 Год назад
Look up Mirage 3. It looks the same.
@MrBozoleclown38
@MrBozoleclown38 Год назад
As said, it's an airplane with wings. You should focus a little bit more.
@xaralampos1959
@xaralampos1959 Год назад
@@jg3000 he can look for a Mirage2000. He will find pictures
@J64THX
@J64THX Год назад
It's hard because it can look like an F-18, MiG-29, or a Eurofighter Typhoon apparently...😂🤣😂🤣
@citadelchase8858
@citadelchase8858 Год назад
Watch the the movie "Le Chaveliers du Ceil"
@fatmanoverlanding
@fatmanoverlanding Год назад
What a great transformer plane. Base on the clips from this video, it can transform from the Dassult Mirage, to the Mig-29 Fulcrum, to the F/A-18 Hornet, and to the Eurofighter Typhoon, then back again. This would surely confused the enemy. 😁
@HammerRocks
@HammerRocks Год назад
🤣🤣
@grosseileracingteam
@grosseileracingteam Год назад
Also equipped with aerial re-tooling with a dash of F-15 Eagle.
@matydrum
@matydrum Год назад
And mirage F1 and super étandard, at least those are french!
@J64THX
@J64THX Год назад
😂🤣😂🤣
@HammerRocks
@HammerRocks Год назад
It must be a Decepticon. So it's true, they're already here and hiding amongst us.
@malikboyd6570
@malikboyd6570 Год назад
The mirage 2000 looks an awful lot like an f18
@dwinterx
@dwinterx Год назад
Yes there does seem to be a lot of odd footage where it's talking about the F16 but showing the FA/18 and a couple of random shots of the Eurofighter at times when it's talking about another plane at the time. Needs a bit more editing this one! 😁
@dapper189
@dapper189 Год назад
A few times it was the Eurofighter *and Mig29
@maxprivate3805
@maxprivate3805 Год назад
The footage of the Wright Brother's plane seemed out of place also.
@kennethobrien6537
@kennethobrien6537 Год назад
That's why I hate this channel. Check out Rex's Hanger for quality. This place is trash.
@stijill
@stijill Год назад
Both the 2000 and f-18 are not great looking compared to the falcon
@ogdocvato
@ogdocvato Год назад
Never underestimate Dassault fighter jets. Long live India and Viva la France.
@Deepakofficial-wz9jw
@Deepakofficial-wz9jw 9 месяцев назад
india 🧡france
@jacktheaviator4938
@jacktheaviator4938 8 месяцев назад
I'm sorry, but the only reason the Mirage survived was due to the Pakistanis having outdated electronics in their aircraft. You can put a mediocre 4th Gen fighter against a great 3rd Gen and it will win. The Mirage is a cheap junky plane for third world countries. Not to be taken seriously by a first world power.
@gaderyfr8485
@gaderyfr8485 8 месяцев назад
@@jacktheaviator4938 Sources ? I mean greek pilote love the mirage 2000 and they clap the turkish f16 with them ...
@fra93ilgrande
@fra93ilgrande 8 месяцев назад
I love Dassault delta winged fighters 😍🔥🔝🛩️🛩️🛩️💕🇫🇷 Mirage 3, Mirage 2000, Rafale
@8000jk
@8000jk 8 месяцев назад
@jacktheaviator4938 Oh really? Israel and France used Mirage variants in their conflicts and with great success. Also, explain how the Mirage series was a great export success, despite being a “cheap junky plane” as you had claimed. In fact, the Mirage 2000 was not a cheap platform either compared to the F-16’s.
@mcal27
@mcal27 Год назад
Hilarious!! Are they trolling us do you think? Random aircraft footage now of various types.. maybe the editor and narrator can’t preview each others work during production for kicks!? 😂
@kiwi_comanche
@kiwi_comanche Год назад
I'm sure the narrator would LOVE to see the final edit, but he's...y'know, blind.
@Yman83464z
@Yman83464z Год назад
@@kiwi_comanche I checked - I think that is not totally true: he is Austin Nebbia and he is not blind..
@Kriss_L
@Kriss_L Год назад
@@Yman83464z Sigh...google sarcasm.
@mcal27
@mcal27 Год назад
@@kiwi_comanche so it’s all down to the editor then… oh and go lay your gilt trip on someone else.. the quality of these videos is shameful and it’s fair to comment on it… ok? Bye
@prodigy563
@prodigy563 Год назад
I liked this comment at the beginning but by the end I could see that maybe they were showing aircraft flown by Indian and pakistan also, not sure where the tornado fits in tho.
@Kriss_L
@Kriss_L Год назад
I like how you trolled the noobs by showing footage of F-18s, Migs, & Sukhois, all while talking about the Mirage. That will really confuse people.
@kittytrail
@kittytrail Год назад
that's super realistic camo patterns to confuse the enemy aviators... 😉
@zooot820
@zooot820 Год назад
it is hilarious how many people get upset and comment about it 😅
@shouryu
@shouryu Год назад
So confused by all the shots of Hornets in this Mirage 2000 doc.
@pieterveenders9793
@pieterveenders9793 Год назад
It's apparently done for the algorithms, to increase discussion in the comments which will put the video at the top of the list. The only way to counteract that is by downvoting the video, which I definitely did.
@alanwright3172
@alanwright3172 Год назад
PLEASE !PLEASE! PLEASE! Find someone who knows the difference between aircraft to edit the footage for a Mirage 2000 video Why T.F. is there so much footage of F18s!!!!! and typhoons....and Mig 23s. FFS.
@kittytrail
@kittytrail Год назад
that's what you get when you use some random Fivr cheapo to do the footage research and editing... 😸
@bengaldevilbdgr6956
@bengaldevilbdgr6956 9 месяцев назад
My uncle was a wing man of the leading mirage 2000 that struck the tangos on Tiger Hill in Kargil...he was flying the Mig 21
@davidpugh796
@davidpugh796 Год назад
Ummmm… many of the aircraft shown are USN Hornets ( or Super Hornets… I can’t tell the difference. )
@WALTERBROADDUS
@WALTERBROADDUS Год назад
I was about to say the same thing. It is rather odd.
@just-in-time6354
@just-in-time6354 Год назад
All the footage on these channels are AI generated from my understanding
@flickingbollocks5542
@flickingbollocks5542 Год назад
And something with canard. ?Rafale
@tylerdurden2644
@tylerdurden2644 Год назад
@@WALTERBROADDUS It is normal for this guy, Accuracy means nothing.
@paktahn
@paktahn Год назад
@@flickingbollocks5542 eurofighter
@BloodCrow1698
@BloodCrow1698 Год назад
The Mirage 2000B looks a lot like an F-18 in some of the videos.
@apachehelicopterah64
@apachehelicopterah64 Год назад
And sometimes like a MiG Fulcrum
@kittytrail
@kittytrail Год назад
optical illusions due to too much climate change in the editing room i'd say... 😏
@HammerRocks
@HammerRocks Год назад
And at one point the Mirage even morph into the Eurofigther.
@nuttyDesignAndFab
@nuttyDesignAndFab Год назад
this channel repeatedly shows footage or the wrong fighters. Seeing lots of hornets here whilst talking about the Mirage
@arankthnar
@arankthnar Год назад
Fully agreed. And it didn't speak about the previous aircraft the Mirage III.
@JohnHoranzy
@JohnHoranzy Год назад
He got the clicks, that is all that matters.
@snipey14
@snipey14 Год назад
This channel is just a hub of misinformation. Every video has completely wrong footage and completely false information. They're not trying to make good content, just content that appeals to the algorithm so they can make money. People need to stop watching this drivel.
@ApostolosRafailidis
@ApostolosRafailidis Год назад
The M-2000 is not small. In fact, seeing it up-close it looks appreciably larger than an F-16. This does not have to do with the physical dimensions, which are similar for the two aircraft, but with the total volume and height of the airframe above ground, with gear down. With the delta wing and an engine significantly less powerful than that of the F-16, it is great for 1-2 instantaneous tight turns but then runs out of energy. More often than not, in real situations 1-2 turns is all it takes, however.
@erikdouglas9952
@erikdouglas9952 Год назад
They aren't similar at all. The M2000 is almost 30% shorter 10% thinner and the only spec even close 4% height difference.
@ApostolosRafailidis
@ApostolosRafailidis Год назад
@@erikdouglas9952 About 15m and 14m in length and 10m and 9.1 in wingspan for the F-16 and M-2000 respectively, is hardly a 30% difference in dimensions. The difference is greater in empty weight (F-16 being quite a bit heavier). However, my point is just that the M-2000 is not the tiny fighter described. In fact, having seen the two up close and side-by-side, the M-2000 does look larger, probably because of the optically larger fuselage and greater ground clearance.
@ayushthosar6005
@ayushthosar6005 Год назад
"Babe, it isn't small, its average" lol. But yes, you're right. Its barely a meter less in terms of length and even less in terms of wingspan
@edo-san
@edo-san 11 месяцев назад
Taiwan recently did a 4 on 4 live exercise with F-2000's vs F-16V's. The results was the mirage won 4-1. It's seem that the mirage is a relevant 21st century exceptional fighter.
@ludovic7439
@ludovic7439 11 месяцев назад
The only F16 killer ...
@gh8447
@gh8447 Год назад
I'm amazed at how many different types of Mirage 2000 were developed. I counted at least three twin-tail twin-engine versions and one single-tail twin-engine version. I thought the Mirage 2000s were all single-tail single-engine.
@SonuDR007
@SonuDR007 10 месяцев назад
There were variants of Mirage Iii Iv and nothing to do with Mirage 2000 They all have delta wings though that is why you are confused
@frednoname3714
@frednoname3714 9 месяцев назад
😂😂 you killed me 🎉 that was good joke as french THX you level of imagination we have 😂😂
@frednoname3714
@frednoname3714 9 месяцев назад
​@@SonuDR007 hi. the vid shows also Mirage F1, 2000 with F18 images etc etc 🎉
@rodlever3620
@rodlever3620 8 месяцев назад
That's because the maker of this film doesn't know the difference between twin-engined F-18s and single engined Mirage 2000s or F-16s!
@OmarKhanUK
@OmarKhanUK Год назад
I REALLY enjoy your videos, especially looking at the iconic planes of the cold war. Occasionally footage doesn't match the topic and that makes it confusing - for example, talking in this video about hte Twin Engine Mirage, but showing footage of FA18, Eurofighter and Panavia Tornados. I understand that limited library footage may be available, but still image etc might be more appropriate. Keep up the great work
@shize9ine
@shize9ine Год назад
quantity over quality.
@michaelkim3432
@michaelkim3432 Год назад
Yeah, I kept thinking to myself (why am I looking at a Hornet??)
@Observer31
@Observer31 Год назад
I just wrote a comment to the same effect. They do this in a number of videos and it is a bit disconcerting.
@justinbelshe
@justinbelshe Год назад
It's crap is what it is.
@abledog006
@abledog006 Год назад
One of the most annoying aspects of videos like this. I know it has more to do with the availability of footage, but really... it would be better to put up a still image of the craft you're talking about. Aviation fans are really irritated by this kind of presentation.
@hellrecon1980
@hellrecon1980 Год назад
There are so many videos of Greek mirages. You could have used the official videos of the Hellenic Air Force. Some of them are great and show the abilities of this beautiful aircraft! Videos of the French Air Force are even better!
@AmitSingh-uq3hl
@AmitSingh-uq3hl 9 месяцев назад
Indian Airforce’s Love and trust for Mirage is of different level, so much so that they used the Mirage again in 2019 for strike on Terrorist hide outs in Pakistan. This trust was one of the key factor for Indians to choose Dassault’s Rafale over, Eurofighter Typhoon and F-18 again
@Noname123rr
@Noname123rr 8 месяцев назад
Yep. Main thing no strong attached to plane or its parts. USA usually stops exporting parts once their see their interest is not served or they are ignored
@JoyP09
@JoyP09 8 месяцев назад
India chose Rafale over EF Typhoon because it was made by a group of untrustworthy european countries + price
@grantwilliams8164
@grantwilliams8164 Год назад
In today’s lesson I learned a Mirage 2000 can be a Fulcrum and a Hornet!
@katsarosfiat
@katsarosfiat 9 месяцев назад
Don't forget the flogger too
@kovo313
@kovo313 Год назад
mirage "an optical illusion caused by atmospheric conditions, especially the appearance of a sheet of water in a desert or on a hot road caused by the refraction of light from the sky by heated air." I guess that explains why we saw so many other planes in this video. 🙂
@AJKam1kaz3
@AJKam1kaz3 Год назад
Why some of the Mirages look more like F-18s? So the title "the plane that can beat an F-16" is more like unconfirmed if it really happened.
@kittytrail
@kittytrail Год назад
well, french planes with french pilots inside have that very obnoxious tendency to shoot down, in combat as much as in _roleplayin',_ those cheap american planes like F-16, F-15E, F/A-18 or even the elusive F-22 to the greatest dismay of the 'merican militards... 😹 there were some US pilots integrated in a french squadron near Nancy that were, all of them, raving about the Mirages 2000 they were flying with compared to what they flew before. them Pentagon Perfumed Princes weren't happy and told them in no uncertain terms to tone it way way down or else... 🤭
@PaulGuy
@PaulGuy Год назад
Because those are F-18s.
@miltonb2811
@miltonb2811 Год назад
'One fighter rose to challenge'...and a MiG-29 pops up. Then a Flogger. Nice. ;)
@roywhiteo5
@roywhiteo5 Год назад
The b-roll is all over the place on this one
@sevenus82
@sevenus82 Год назад
Every now and then you even showed Mirage 2000 in this video.
@subhadeeppaul1349
@subhadeeppaul1349 Год назад
0:46 oh yeah the MiG-2000 Flogger.
@havocgr1976
@havocgr1976 Год назад
As I was in an airforce of a country that has mainly F16s but a few Mirage too, and having an adversary that has F16 I can pretty surely say the Mirage is better.If the pilots are equally skilled.I once saw a Mirage take off a dozen meters away from me, then at like 30 feet attitude seconds after leaving the ground ,pilot turned up at 120 degrees and went up while upside down!Craziest thing I ever saw and I never found a video of something similar.
@SophieHound
@SophieHound Год назад
Seriously? That's what you got out of this video? Or, are you just making a random comment?
@havocgr1976
@havocgr1976 Год назад
@@SophieHound Are you expecting me to blindly follow the videos opinion?When I was in an airforce of F16s and Mirages that dogfights enemy F16s everyday?Did learn many things of its history though.
@SophieHound
@SophieHound Год назад
@@havocgr1976 Yeah, Just like the video, I got No idea what's going on in your comment havocgr. I understand you were in some kinda Airforce? What about the Mirages and F-16's? Who'd they get into dog fights with?
@havocgr1976
@havocgr1976 Год назад
@@SophieHound Ah you wanted me to be more specific.Greek airforce, dogfights with Turkish airforce.
@SophieHound
@SophieHound Год назад
@@havocgr1976 Okay, Thank you for your service. The intent of my comment was, to point out the poor video quality. Not your country's lucky shot. So, my apologies...
@kira68200
@kira68200 Год назад
these mirage 2000 18 fighting fulcrum seem really excellent 🤣 no joke, thanks to have make a video about our old figther, now their is only a small number of them is still in service, more an more rafale are taking their place
@atw9913
@atw9913 Год назад
The entire intro showed every plane except the Mirage 2000.
@isaacthacker6572
@isaacthacker6572 Год назад
Who else thinks that this is better than watching Netflix or the History Channel?
@humveehunter
@humveehunter Год назад
Try mark felton
@elementxxrider
@elementxxrider Год назад
Include me in this group
@jonathanwatson1054
@jonathanwatson1054 Год назад
Or was it..... Ancient Aliens. 👽
@vulcangunner58
@vulcangunner58 Год назад
I'm in
@kittytrail
@kittytrail Год назад
well, here we get trans-Mirage 2000 with heavy make-up and upskirt shots too so, probably the same as any nexflit tripe... 😏
@victordu4694
@victordu4694 Год назад
do you have difficulties finding mirage 2000 footage ? coz lot of what you show are not mirage 2000 ..
@kyriakosfatouros4071
@kyriakosfatouros4071 Год назад
most of the footage is f18 and mig 29 not mirage 2000, indeed it is well documented within the greek air force that a mirage could most of the times outgun and get an upper hand on the f16 in 90% of the cases
@MaistoHelix
@MaistoHelix Год назад
During it's live span, and still in service now there was never any doubt that the Mirage 2000 was a real threat to any aircraft, including the Mig-29. And yes it was and is certainly equal to the F-16. You got to love this aircraft, formidable dogfighting capabilities as well as a very potent multi role platform. An interceptor, and a platform to deliver anti shipping and nuclear payloads. Well followed up by the Rafale, even a little before it's Time..I saw them at many airshows and seeing them fly through the valleys of the Provence on low altitude runs. It will always have a special place for me..
@Damitsall
@Damitsall Год назад
It definitely isn't equal. The only thing the Mirage can do better is 1 circle fights. It can pull some AOA, but that also leaves it vulnerable to the way an F16 fights. First off the F16 is one of the best BVR fighters ever, there's no comparison here. In a merge the F16 would just take the Mirage to the deck and engage it in a rate fight. The F16 is the best rate fighter ever (besides 5th gen fighters). As long as the pilot was patient and fought his fight, he would win every time.
@geekadeuzan2103
@geekadeuzan2103 Год назад
@@Damitsall the delta wing configuration actually allows the mirage to pull harder, it has been seen in Red Flag exercises that mirage have better authority than F-16s. And I'm not sure where you got the info that the F-16 is one of the best BVR aircraft when that role was given to the F-15 while the F-16 was designed as a close-in dogfighter at first. Sure it can BVR but it's definitely not the best plane at it, any gen 4.5+ plane is better suited for that.
@Damitsall
@Damitsall Год назад
@geekadeuzan I agree with you, that's what I said, the Mirage can pull more AOA (Angle Of Attack). There's a downside to that though, the Mirage has a ton of drag which makes it loose energy very quickly. That's why when you see dogfights with it and other delta wings (not as applicable to the newer ones) they often get into a "toilet bowl" or spiral down to the ground. They are cashing in altitude for energy. Which is exactly where the F16 wants it. Once the fight gets to the ground, it often becomes a 2 circle or rate fight, in which the F16 dominates pretty much everything. The F16 was always designed with BVR in mind, but yes it was designed with dogfighting in mind first. Although personally I would agree with you that I like the F15 better, there is no denying the F16 is very competitive with it and a lot of pilots would argue its better.
@shaveridan
@shaveridan 8 месяцев назад
@@Damitsalli think you’re a dcs player to tell that on the f-16 but anyway… a 2000-5 with MICA is probably equal to an f-16 with 120Cs
@Rawkus105
@Rawkus105 Год назад
How come some Mirage 2000's have single tails while others have double? :D
@Kriss_L
@Kriss_L Год назад
Because they are painted in an F-18 camo pattern.
@N911GT2
@N911GT2 Год назад
This video has so much wrong footage it just loses all credibility.
@gort8203
@gort8203 Год назад
This channel really has no credibility to lose.
@zaydpeer
@zaydpeer Год назад
The Mirage 2000 was a formidable aircraft for its time.
@No1harris_98
@No1harris_98 Год назад
The Mirage-2000 is such a nice looking aircraft.
@jmbig
@jmbig 11 месяцев назад
For me ... the mirage 2000 is the most beautiful military airplane ever made 🤩🤩🤩👍👍👍👌👌
@Mikefoxx55
@Mikefoxx55 Год назад
talking about mirages but keep showing f18"s
@lfla0179
@lfla0179 Год назад
The movie Le Chevaliers du Ciel illustrates very well the capabilities of the Mirage. A good amount of footage is straight up real, out-of-combat aerobatics.
@jmiddlefinger
@jmiddlefinger Год назад
I remember seeing the Emirati Air Force flying airfield ops in the Mirage 2000 at Al Dhafra Air Base in Abu Dhabi back in like 2005. Super cool plane. Emirati pilots had a very good reputation amongst American pilots.
@LostAnFound
@LostAnFound Год назад
I love how the establishing shot is a clip of a MIG-29 Why not call the channel, "Military Lore and Random Airplanes"
@otherbrothersteve
@otherbrothersteve Год назад
Curious why the video is heavily sprinkled with sequences of F-15s and F-18s.
@vegasflyboy67
@vegasflyboy67 Год назад
If you're going to talk about airplanes you should show the actual planes you are talking about. It would help with the confusion.
@bradleygibson1670
@bradleygibson1670 Год назад
Please don't forget how the Israeli Air Force and SAAF used variants of Mirage in different conflicts. The impact they were unreal. Then came the Cheetah version of the Mirage 2000 , joint design of Israel and S.A. Deniel. India was not the first to use them.
@VettemanLT5
@VettemanLT5 Год назад
To beat the F-16 is a rather bold statement. These are very capable and very equal aircraf in every parameter. This comes down to the ability of the pilot to overcome his opponent. Not to mention these two aircraft are simply beautiful to look at.
@thelegendaryblackbeastofar39
If you've spoken to those who worked at General Dynamics when the f-16 was being conceived you will hear that the more ambitious engineers wanted a tail-less delta-winged aircraft with dual shock-cone intakes, much how the Mirage-2000 would take shape. However, it was fealt by more conservative members that they were already pushing the envelope with artificial stability and advanced fly-by-wire. Following the motto "Never try too many new things at once" they opted for a more conventional tail-plane layout. It is interesting that later General Dynamics would market a delta winged version of the f-16 with the added xl prefix.
@puryanto5076
@puryanto5076 Год назад
Do you mea f102delta dagger
@thelegendaryblackbeastofar39
@@puryanto5076 The delta dagger uses a classic delta winged design with natural aerodynamic stabilty. The classic delta has some severe drawbacks which is why Daussalt chose a conventional tail-plane design for the Mirage F1, the successor to the legendary delta-winged Mirage III. The mirage 2000 and the f-16XL (prototype) uses a compound-delta wing. In addition, aircraft such as these have their center-of-gravity well behind their center-of-lift making them inherently unstable in flight. Think of a hammer thrown with its handle facing forwards; it will want to rotate. Hence they need an advanced artificial stability computer to maintain control. This solves the major drawbacks of the classic delta-wing.
@mikewalsh1402
@mikewalsh1402 9 месяцев назад
The F-16 is the best 4th generation fighter ever produced!
@Desire123ification
@Desire123ification Год назад
The Mirage 2000 has a beautiful design, is sleek and swift, and is packed with a lot of firepower.
@cjwrench07
@cjwrench07 Год назад
It is everything you said but swift, mostly due to its specific wing design. Those old school true tailless deltas bleed energy in a turn worse than any other type of wing; even slightly more than the forward swept wings of so, so, many failed prototypes. Don’t get me wrong though. I love damn near all of Dassault’s aircraft, and their clearly evolving designs.
@joshflugel
@joshflugel 11 месяцев назад
That's why the french called dir Mirage, it can change its appearance to look like a Fulcrum, a Typhoon, or a drone if you like.
@moteroargentino7944
@moteroargentino7944 Год назад
Delta wing planes are beautiful, and the Mirage 2000 is one if not the most gorgeous of them.
@qwill8254
@qwill8254 10 месяцев назад
"if it looks good it will fly beautifully" Dassault ( design philosophy, confirmed with those words) .
@flymacseamus3474
@flymacseamus3474 Год назад
If you can't be bothered to find footage of Mirage 2000, you might as well put footage of cats on Roombas
@saikatnag4373
@saikatnag4373 Год назад
As an Indian, Me and my countrymen very much know the importance of the mighty Mirage 2000 Not only it was the counter against pakistani F16s but also thrashed them in the mountain ranges after israely upgrades. The nuclear capable Mirage 2000s were also our nuclear deterrence against china.
@nandanvalavaikar5443
@nandanvalavaikar5443 10 месяцев назад
That was battle of Munto Dalo it was a turning point in Kargil victory. Air Marshall Nambiar and Wing Commander PJ Thakur remain unsung hero's. Hat's off to them. That our country remains safe.
@myusername3689
@myusername3689 Год назад
The Mirage and the F-16 are basically polar opposites in terms of aerodynamic maneuverability. The Mirage focuses on low speed instantaneous turning with its large vortex generating low aspect ratio delta wings while the F-16 is almost entirely focused on high speed sustained turns with its noticeably higher aspect ratio cropped delta tapered ish wing with horizontal tails instead of just a vertical tail like the Mirage.
@williamzk9083
@williamzk9083 11 месяцев назад
The Delta wing can generate enormous amounts of lift but it comes at the expense of high drag that ultimately slows the aircraft down. In other words the delta wing gives excellent instantaneous turn rate but poor sustained turn rate. due to the deteriorating L/D ratio at high alpha. Fly by Wire, Vortex Generators, leading edge flaps all combined to almost eliminate these issues but not quite. Willy Messerschmidt criticized Walther Lippisch's flying wing and delta wing designs by saying that if you wanted lift by increasing pitch for a turn the elevons are providing downward force just as you want that lift. I think a little bit of thrust vectoring for pitch control and trim would finally eliminate the deltas disadvantages.
@KK-gr9df
@KK-gr9df Год назад
I saw jaguars and Mig 29s at the beginning. Then F 18s. 😂
@kittytrail
@kittytrail Год назад
jags are half french so it's a pass... 😋
@hyltonswemmer4824
@hyltonswemmer4824 Год назад
It's the fly-by-wire system of the Mirage that makes it special. It has nothing in common with its older Mirage 3 / 5 / 50 siblings and the delta configuration has huge ADVANTAGES like rigidity / durability. The FBW of the Mirage 2000 makes it more manouverable than both the F16 and F18 especially at higher altitude and it has the same approach speeds (landing) as the Mirage F1 !!
@oldfriend327
@oldfriend327 11 месяцев назад
That refueling probe though, God. All of that engineering to build that amazing aircraft and they couldn't design a retractable landing gear?
@nishitdronographer718
@nishitdronographer718 Год назад
You forgot to show how IAF used Mirages in balakot strikes using Spice Laser guided bombs
@dougkennedy4906
@dougkennedy4906 Год назад
It isn't the plane that was better. It was the pilots training and experience. Period.
@dale3869
@dale3869 Год назад
Yeah, focus more on quality. Having the wrong aircraft removes people like myself from your audience. That's unfortunate because I do truly enjoy your video's. I also find the "that can beat" a little pedestrian. The better pilot is a huge part of which aircraft would come out on top. Tactics are huge in this generation and weapons range/ability are similar.
@Mikkall
@Mikkall Год назад
The F-16 is far more apt to beat itself than fall victim to a Surrender Falcon.
@michaelmartinez1345
@michaelmartinez1345 Год назад
@dmrevis, There were scenes of other aircraft besides the Mirage 2000's yes, but it is understandable that the French company (Dassault) would allow only very limited video and still photos of these remarkable and very capable fighter aircraft types. I was surprised that it was successful in the ground attack role, at extremely high altitudes in the mountains... This aircraft, is definitely a force to be reckoned with... I give this video Two Thumbs Up!!!👍👍
@johnriddington9514
@johnriddington9514 Год назад
May have been mentioned - there's a great 2005 French movie called Sky Fighters centred on the Mirage 2000.
@skymarshal6787
@skymarshal6787 Год назад
a legendary story no doubt...go india!!!
@AMERICANPATRIOT1945
@AMERICANPATRIOT1945 Год назад
This is proof that it is the pilot and training that makes the biggest difference, as long as the involved aircraft are all competent.
@quoderatdemonstrandum5442
@quoderatdemonstrandum5442 Год назад
Check the videos by Growling Sidewinder. The Mirage 2000 is killer in a one-circle fight. But it bleeds energy in a turn like going out of style. So if the fight goes two-circle then F-16 dominates.
@kaiserisname8839
@kaiserisname8839 Год назад
🤝
@dioad1739
@dioad1739 Год назад
GS has a awesome channel he not only does some great dog fights he also tells some history on the aircraft’s and gets the new aircraft’s to try out before they become available to anyone else also check out Longshots channel.
@anubis5397
@anubis5397 Год назад
While what you said is true, and while DCS is the best simulator available for everyone there is one thing it can't simulate : how difficult it is to sustain 7-9Gs for 5,6 or 8 minutes for the pilots. That's why when you look at "real" dogfight training, pilots do very agressive manouvers from the beginning, to win as fast as possible.
@quoderatdemonstrandum5442
@quoderatdemonstrandum5442 Год назад
@@anubis5397 The tactics of air to air combat are NOT simple. But history shows that the airplane with a two-circle advantage (rate fight) usually comes out on top.
@gort8203
@gort8203 Год назад
The fight usual doesn't go to a rate fight when GS is flying the Mirage because the fights are either rigged or he picks weak opponents to fly against. Do you ever wonder why his opponent often fails to fly his own aircraft to it advantages?
@Saurabh-lw7wy
@Saurabh-lw7wy Год назад
India took a license to make Mirage 2000 ... They didn't produce the aircraft in large numbers
@Ahrimancp
@Ahrimancp Год назад
Wow it took more than a minute to show a Mirage 2000 in a video about it. Even then I think there’s more F/A-18 footage
@ArpenteurDeToile
@ArpenteurDeToile Год назад
I am very confused, the mirage 2000 is a mono tail. Every plane seen with two tails is not a mirage 2000. As far as I know, we french have not made any dual tail fighter...
@Googleistheantichrist
@Googleistheantichrist 11 месяцев назад
The F16 is the Honda civic hatchback of the fighter world. It’s not the best, sometimes it’s not even good, but it’s cheap enough that people will buy it anyway
@gringologie9302
@gringologie9302 11 месяцев назад
F16 is a beauty. & I'm french. But rafale is cuter, sorry.
@paperitgel98
@paperitgel98 Год назад
Bruh surely there are enough Mirage footage to show in the background. He really used anything but the M2K lol
@flightmaster999
@flightmaster999 Год назад
Dude, could you at least try to show the right airplanes a few time during your video? It was loaded with F/A-18, F-15, different types of MiGs, Eurofighters, Tejas, etc. but not many Mirage 5. Seriously, you need to get someone that knows their planes a little before doing a video about planes.
@72tadrian65
@72tadrian65 8 месяцев назад
Such an awesome short range fighter, I’m so happy these dudes are allies!
@pkmishra6763
@pkmishra6763 9 месяцев назад
Mirage 2000 looks beautiful
@hanumharkit1485
@hanumharkit1485 2 месяца назад
I love frenchs compact plane like mirage and rafale ...single engine, multiroles, low maintenance, agile, low fuel cost, good radar, long range cover.. designed for the country with small budget..
@shaunpzn
@shaunpzn Год назад
Hornets dominating a video about the Mirage, enjoyable none the less!😁
@buryitdeep
@buryitdeep 9 месяцев назад
That Sidewinder IR anti mountain missile was a gamechanger.
@kweeks10045
@kweeks10045 2 месяца назад
There's a fairly large private air force that flies these from Alliance airport in Fort Worth, Texas. They are usually flown to be adversaries during training exercises against the US Air Force. Perhaps you can contact them about some fresh video and remake this video. The Mirage 2000 is still an outstanding performer and making an updated video would be well worth it, in my opinion.
@HammerRocks
@HammerRocks Год назад
Who did the editing of this video? Do they even know their planes? When you were talking about the Dassult Mirage (& not referencing any other fighter), you randomly showed the Mig-29 and often the F/A-18 instead. And at one point, even the Eurofighter. Great (spoken) info, shame about the incorrect clips.
@ianlacey6588
@ianlacey6588 Год назад
In his jet combat board games Air Superiority, and Air Strike J.D. Webster pointed out another French design quirk. Their drop tanks combined with rocket pods. Thus saving two hard points, and as unguided rockets are as easy to replace as drop tanks it is win-win.
@Si-Toecutter
@Si-Toecutter Год назад
put on subtitles and you can learn without having to listen to his movie voice
@eliomarlacerda6943
@eliomarlacerda6943 Год назад
The main problem with the Mirage 2000 is the lack of range of its the air to air MICA missiles. Is inferior compared with AIM120C and maybe even less of russian R77
@mikejuba9228
@mikejuba9228 Год назад
The F-16 has defeated both the F-35 and the F-22; so good luck. She may be an old gal, but still has a few tricks up her sleeve.
@ricardosakavicius4150
@ricardosakavicius4150 Год назад
I love most of the Mirage variants: Mirage 29, Mirage Hornet, Tornage, Miragaele, Mirage F-1 × 2000
@mtchamberlin
@mtchamberlin Год назад
Usually quite enjoy these videos but the footage used in this was utter balls, typhoons, f-18s
@amfearliathmor9747
@amfearliathmor9747 Год назад
Now we're on the Indian and Pakistani air combat history, the next Dark Skies video could be about the F86 Sabre Slayer, the British Folland Gnat.
@amjadmuhammadiqbal4721
@amjadmuhammadiqbal4721 Год назад
Gnat a Sabre slayer? Really?
@gibbsm
@gibbsm 10 месяцев назад
There was more footage of the F/A-18 than the Mirage, LOL. Dude, what up with that?
@amfearliathmor9747
@amfearliathmor9747 Год назад
Dark Skies next video will be the English Electric Lightning, but will be using stock footage of the Mig21
@mingming9604
@mingming9604 Год назад
they just forgot to add a canard to it ;)
@pierremitham2964
@pierremitham2964 Год назад
New drinking game...take a shot everytime they say "Mirage 2000" but show an F18 hornet! Only the best will make it past the 5 minute mark!
@dmarkieb
@dmarkieb 9 месяцев назад
Do you not have enough stock footage of the Mirage to use when our talking about the Mirage??
@gordonfernandes6873
@gordonfernandes6873 9 месяцев назад
No plane does miracles, it's the man behind the machine that makes the difference, going forward, for everything else there's Drones & AI...🤔😉
@mik29k
@mik29k Год назад
They are Mirages, they make you believe you are seeing hornets and typhoons but in reality it is a Mirage.
@fletch9702
@fletch9702 Год назад
An evolution of the plane that the substantially slower Sea Harriers absolutely murdered in the Falklands.
@ianrobertson3419
@ianrobertson3419 Год назад
Take a drink every time a plane gets mislabeled.
@janusz4156
@janusz4156 Год назад
45 years of Mirage 2000 - the star of Ace Combat series.
@tonykouros4859
@tonykouros4859 Год назад
Mirage 2000s are indeed a powerful platform...and maybe only can be beaten by Greek F 16 pilots as Greek Air force HAF has both types of fighters and they know how!!!!💥
@theowlfromduolingo7982
@theowlfromduolingo7982 Год назад
Some stealthy camouflaged F18s and Tornados sneaked into this video
@scottgarriott3884
@scottgarriott3884 Год назад
Such a beautiful aircraft! Really too bad you can't get your hands on more footage of it. Good info though.
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