THE POP-PUNK STARTER KIT 

This, No Use Was always great. More Betterness through Feel Good Record is for sure among the best pop punk ever recorded. Feel Good was an absolute masterpiece... buzz saw guitars to show tune beats with dark as fuck lyrics, pure genius.

Exactly what I was gonna comment. NUFAN was a major pop punk catalyst for me. Still miss Tony.

I was literally about to comment this before I seen it.

One of the best writer in the genre for sure

Loved NuFAn so much. More Betterness and Hard rock bottom are great front to back.

He’s a straight ahead punk drummer. No shame there.

I feel Blink went and lost their way after Dude Ranch. Enema has some cracking songs but Dude Ranch is miles better and Scott would have brought Blink to a better musical situation (maybe not money wise), but they could have been the next Nofx or Pennywise and not that cringing mainstream nonsense.

Finn once again on the hate train.

Travis is a monster drummer and super creative, he does change some things, but Scott was a really good drummer from the area and a cool person. Wade in Unwritten Law was actually one of the most solid drummers in our school. Seriously go check out The Locust to hear another poway drummer who was great, Gabe was awesome. Listen to everything and be good to people

@@biznatcho7 He was actually a metal drummer..

Jawbreaker are criminally underrated. Saw them last month in Chicago and they kicked ass.

@@jeremiahthompson7266 ADTR is not metalcore bahahaha Its pop punk with break downs. Dont insult metalcore like that.

This should be the starter Pack

Thanks a few I didn't know I will check out

The story so far is my favorite out of these but I'm not a huge pop punk aficionado

absolutely

Finn was smoking crystallized cocaine saying that Blink could play better than Descendents

I love them, but I prefer them as ALL.

@@lobesmcgee I like ALL as well, but my point was in regard to Finn saying Blink 182 is like a newer Descendants who can actually play well. Descendants can run circles around Blink 182 in musical ability.

@@psychoof78 Also saying blink is better than Lagwagon or NOFX (In their prime) is a horrible take like every Lagwagon album is better than anything blink put out even if I like blink

At least as far as old punk goes, they were killer musicians. I think they just sounded worse because the production wasn’t as good.

Bill is the best part of the descendents

@@meowtherainbowx4163 punk doesn’t even need good production 😂

@Jazz Rocker Ethiopia I'm not a fan of objectively bad production. I do like how some records sound unconventionally good, though, and I can look past some overly raw, lo-fi production if the performances are good enough. The latter is the case with The Descendents.

Drive thru records was amazing

Allister’s first 3 albums are classics, especially Dead Ends and Girlfriends and Last Stop Suburbia

@@TolietWater Dead ends and girlfriends is one that hasn’t grown on me very much. I don’t think it’s bad but it’s definitely a beginner album. But I agree with Last stop suburbia and Before the blackout

@@patrickstar6247 Yeah the album is one of those that kinda gets better as you listen to it more I liked it a lot the first time I heard it tho because it has a lot more skate punk influence

I’m 37 and still love Allister.

100% agree.

And he doesn't even know the name of their singer! If you know skate punk you know Joey!

Ah, May 16th is one of their top records

Blaze is definitely a later album

@@broonage I legit said the same thing lol

I was never really a fan but I saw them open for less than jake a few years ago and they blew me away honestly

Definitely, so fucking good, underrated band.

@@MikeIzzle_ just super solid and undeniable right?

Pop punk didn't start in the mid-90s.

It didn’t but I think it’s safe to say modern day pop punk is more influenced by the mid 90’s TRL-core era than compared to the 80’s.

@@djj8750 In the sense that we know it now, it did.

Blink was inspired by heavier pop punk bands like descendents and screeching weasel

As a lego and pop punk fan, could you please send a link?

The best

@@FinnMckentyPRMBA You should check out Dune Rats and Violent Soho from Australia. You won't be dissapointed :)

Same! Newfound Glory was the first big show my friends and I ever went to see

Same, first real concert i saw was blink and NFG opened..

That’s why they’re called that

Say it like you mean it is one of the best pop punk albums ever

Completely agree. I think Best of Me is the perfect pop punk song, too.

TSL are the most underrated by far

@@joshann1251 incredible song

Deryck had the best vocals during their Chuck-era.

If you see sum 41 play live vs blink 182 live… there is no comparison… sum 41 for the win.

Sum's new stuff is way better than Blink's.

@@lunatikkrazieazylum6226 I agree with you on that.

@@lunatikkrazieazylum6226 They've gotten even heavier! Proudly wearing their metal roots.

I don't know why, maybe I had lomg since moved onto hardcore but I couldn't get into 2010s pop punk.

My introduction was 90’s Green Day. Then got into rancid, lagwagon, NOFX, and Millencolin though dudes at the skatepark

@@cultreader9751 ive been listening to poppunk for nearly 20 years and im with you, i think the golden era was around 90 - 05. after that, everyone seemed more sad/emo with brickwalled guitar mixes. i miss the goofy lyrics and tight snare kicks from that era when blink was the benchmark

I'd second alk3 if something wasn't getting stinkier around matt these days. Loved their music to death but there's just way too much to ignore

@@bubblescatshack8658 yes, he must go back to the skate park: Propagandhi and Chixdiggit

I didn't realize until this video that Sad Boy was a thing. And I just got into The Wonder Years. I guess I like Sad Boy Punk! *shrug*

Totally agree with No. 1, not sure how it's possible to not include Green Day in a pop-punk starter kit. Like them or not they are one of the most influential bands on all the pop-punk bands that came after. Good video otherwise, pretty solid list.

I don’t like Ben Weasel, but I love screeching weasel. Their early stuff is pretty sloppy but they have a ton of great music.

Screeching Weasel is a great band and very influential to a lot of the pop punk bands that made it big, Blink 182 covered them on one of their early records and Mike Dirnt was a member of the band at on point.

Weasels lyrics didn't age that well uh yeah they did lol

@@BuildNStuff86 he's hating on weasel for fat Mike's benefit I could believe he isn't a fan but the fact he says they're terrible over and over is suspect

And what about fenix tx?(river fenix) so many bands who had one super dope album , and then fizzled out

@@eyegetbaked I wouldnt say MXPX had only one great album, Going the Way of the Buffalo was great. And their "return to form album", Panic, was also good. At this point I think they have truely lost their edge though.

@@bushleague3472 Pokinatcha, Teenage Politics, Life In General, and Buffalo are great albums (Also Let It Happen for B-Sides) but I don’t care about the middle part of their career except some songs I like the self titled tho

Love skate punk! Strung out is one of my favorite bands!

Strung out is fuckin sick one of my favorites of all time and super underrated today.

I scrolled for quite awhile looking for a Strung Out mention. Exile In Oblivion would be one of my 3 stranded on a desert island albums.

@@chaoticignorant483 so cool you mentioned that album. My buddy Matt Hyde was the producer on that. It's a killer album!

Millencolin? Their first 2 albums are amazing.

Lots of fluids, ear plugs and ibuprofen. you got this old man! just dont break a hip and make sure you pay someone to keep the kids off your lawn while you are away!

Well I’m glad ur not one of them dudes that is stuck on the 1980’s hair metal like most dudes ur age. I mean u were in ur 20’s in the 1990’s when pop punk was starting to really blow up so ur not far off. When I was in bands and really playing a lot of shows about 10 years ago there actually were some older guys coming to shows back then there even was this dude that’s gotta be in his 60’s now that came to all the punk shows to take pictures he was pretty cool guy. One of the bands back then a couple of the members were in their 40’s back then and they had a few guys also in the band that was in there early 20’s. I remember when I was a teenager thinking how weird it would be for older people to listen to pop punk but now I’m 37 and the music still feels fresh to me.

Have you listened to the new one, Railer? As far as I'm concerned its probably the best album they've done. The lyrics are good, the choruses are big, the riffage is top notch.

Lagwagon is the best band that I’d consider pop punk, from a musical standpoint. Finn, or at least a lot of his audience, seem to be more influenced by post-2000 stuff though. That’s cool too.

​@@bushleague3472 Absolutely! In fact, they were touring for that album two years ago, where I attended a show (with Face To Face), and was stabbed multiple times by a psycho who had been stalking me on social media and followed me there. That was the last "real" show I've been to (Oct. 2019, Charlotte, NC) :D Railer is definitely a continuing progression of their songwriting, incorporating elements of hardcore, thrash & metal, while maintaining their melodic, pop-punk sensibilities, and while I agree it's a good album, HANG is still my favorite.

@@ienjoyhoagies Lagwagon and Nofx have fairly different styles, but I'd consider them comparable to one another, in terms of musicianship. As far as punk rock goes, they have far exceeded the 3-chord power pop of bands like the Ramones. When you can write intricate instrumental sections with deep lyrical content, that takes the listener on a journey in 3 minutes or less, you really are a master of your craft. As for Finn, I really do enjoy his videos, but I do take most of what he has to say for what it is, which is his opinion. That's in no way meant to be insulting, because I enjoy listening to his opinion and we're all entitled to have one. To say Screeching Weasel is a shit band that's unlistenable - I mean, they are by no means as talented as bands like Lagwagon, which they always came off to me as a Ramones knockoff, but I listened to them a lot in the early 90's, so there is some nostalgia there for me that not everyone shares, but that's just my opinion.

@@OfficialJBAllen Oh Wow. I'm going to see my first punk show in quite a few years next week... A Wilhelm Scream with Belvedere. Two long term underground scatecore staples that were likely spawned out of the Lagwagon pitri dish. IMO that "prog- punk" sound has been largely driving the underground scene ever since pop punk went comercial, with a plethora of great new bands showing up even since 2017, so dont nobody try to play down Lagwagon's influence.

Their Punkers shirt in the style of the Snickers logo is iconic in my mind.

Always fucking great live too

Too bad it's not about being able to sing

@@IceBreakBottle it truly is sad. It’s about being catchy and good looking

@@testingmyaudioaddiction3452 How old are you? Maybe Tik tok pop punk is about being catchy and good looking.. that's really not punk rock or what pop punk originated as. If that's what you're listening to, there is much better "pop punk" out there. MGK and things like that is trash.

@@IceBreakBottle I listen to everything, and all music that popular in any genre has an element of catchiness to it. Even punk. They try not to because they are trying to be anti-establishment, but anything that tries to be that becomes the establishment real quick when it gets a following.

Not to mention Bill is pretty much the best producer in the genere.

Bill Stevenson is quite possibly Travis Barkers favorite drummer. Easy top 5. Everyone in Descendents is a better player than members of 90% of this list.

@@livinginoklahomacityofficial Lol, rivaled only be Lagwagon... that band thats '"not as good as Greenday".

Yeah this video has terrible takes like he thinks Lagwagon and NOFX at their peak aren’t better than blink? That’s really dumb

Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

Right. He plays a song that was recorded poorly as if that's indicative of their whole catalog. Ben is the worst, but they were highly influential and have some of the catchup pop punk ever made. There's a reason blink covered them on their first album.

@@Radam_Jay Yeah Finn is completely misinformed about Screeching Weasel they pumped out a lot of garbage songs because they liked doing that but they still have a lot of great music

Haha glad someone else noticed! They should very much alike, so I wonder if sum41 drew any inspiration from mxpx or if it was just a huge coincidence

Listen to MxPx next big thing, then listen to good charlottes the young and the hopeless song. Good charlotte completely ripped off the sound. I keep forgetting to ask mike Herrera if he’s ever made that connection.

At least it's in the Past..or Your dad's A sick duck

Skate punk had the best bands with the faster tempos and was a little more aggressive. NOFX was the first concert I ever saw back in 98.

Skate punk is my favorite sub genre of punk. Strung out, pennywise, bad religion! Some of my favorites right there.

As it should be ☺️

I'd definitely use the term 'pop punk' to refer to the cheesier more whiney vocals of The bands you listed like Sum 41, Bowling for Soup, Blink 182 etc. They're quite vastly different from bands like Lagwagon & Bad Religion. Plus I think Screeching Weasel are an awesome band along with all their other projects like Riverdales, Methadones, Queers.

Reliant K were good man

@@IceBreakBottle Hell yeah, I still listen to some of their stuff on occasion

Thank you!

Yeah I just did a list lol

Home Grown! Have never seen their name anywhere outside of my Spotify lol. Great band

@@austinhein239 Yeah. Kings Of Pop is a classic

@@nathanshlap I like the first Home Grown album the most honestly (And the Wusappaning EP, Hanging Out is super underrated) the only problem is that it’s too long lol

Not to mention side projects like The Other with Bomer laying down some sick bass riffs. RIP

@@karl_margs Joey Cape and Chris Rest were both founding members of RKL, which puts them among a very few architects that were making skatepunk prior to Suffer. Chris Flippin, and Little Joe both played with RKL. Both Dave Raun, and their previous drummer Derick played in RKL. Furthermore, the Lagwagon sound was a continuence of the RKL groundwork rather than being just another NOFX/ Bad Religion ripoff.

I remember when blink blew up in 1999, kids would be singing the songs walking by my house.

@@peanutbutterisfu I would have been one of those kids bro, I was seven and my dad bought me Enema of the State on cassette

Street Dogs were criminally underrated. Shame they broke up. I'd personally also add their self-titled album and Fading American Dream, just because those albums are also quite fun.

Me first and the gimme gimmes don't have any original songs, do they? They're a great band, but pretty much all their work is cover songs

@@SconnerStudios correct. If someone is older, or is a fan of standards, country, 80s pop, 90s pop, or show tunes, and might like upbeat punk arrangements of them....Me First and the Gimme Gimmes are a really good way to ease them to into the genre.

@@theevildrummingsithlord1492 100% agree. Saw them with Social D at Revolution in So Fla -- Bought "Back to the World" directly from Mike after their set. Super-approachable and down-to-earth guy when I was talking with him. My kids grew up listening to that CD on the way to skate and surf.

@@laxbro7ify Whoa, that's bound to be awesome! I never had a chance to see them live, but I did work on a long drum cover series where I played through a lot of their songs. Much to my surprise (I guess I shouldn't be, considering how down to Earth they are), they were supportive all along.

Yeah, when I think quality pop punk I basically think of MXPX and No Use For a Name. Those guys had such great melody while still retaining alot of punk energy.

@@bushleague3472 Yup, when you find that fast punk beat (nofx, mxpx, nufan), you find all the similar bands alike. No Use was just as good. I liked Making Friends the best... classics.

@@bmorestance For me, the whole apeal of No Use over the others was Tony's songwriting. I agree that the early albums were classics, but IMO Tony's songwriting just got better with age. More Betterness was lyricaly briliant and really hit home with me in 99. Feel Good Record was crushingly dark, and still hits home with me now.

Their first four albums are gold, the middle part of their career is where it got a bit worse with some great songs but by the 2010s they started to become great again

Thank you!

Especially in the 80s and 90s

Fat mike is paying him

Black Flag too

i love story of the year but the are a far cry from being pop punk. more rock and punk than pop and punk.

@@Keasbeysknight for their newer stuff (anything after Page Avenue) I 100% agree, but at that time, Page Avenue had a lot of pop-punk influence and sound mixed with a little emo/screamo.

Hey if you want a contemporary(ish) pop punk band that keeps a bit of that grit that seemed to get polished off in the early 2000’s check out Direct Hit! Their album Brainless God is a pop punk concept album about the apocalypse and it rules. Their other stuff is solid too. Oh, also Mean Jeans for some solid ramonescore pop punk.

@@SuperSecretAgentNein I took a screenshot of this. Thanks!

@@EricBourassa no problem dude, hope you enjoy it!