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The Postmodern Hell Of Russian Propaganda 

Vlad Vexler
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@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
WATCH NEXT: Putin has gone Fascist ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UGcTgnM8Fas.html How to STOP a nuclear war with Putin ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-lT7W4ER7KFo.html How a Kremlin coup could topple Putin ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sDX5mu81hJ0.html The REAL reason Putin might start a nuclear war ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Jyni1VYT_hI.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rzja-LOqUd8.html The TERRIFYING TRUTH behind Putin's Ukraine invasion
@VeronikaJelencsrecnozivljenje
@VeronikaJelencsrecnozivljenje 2 года назад
Thank you
@smarasme
@smarasme 2 года назад
I thought people closing their media for alternate news and/or opinions, banning and confiscating assets of private owners are fascists but ok :)
@marks7167
@marks7167 2 года назад
Putin was already a fascist...!
@tomaskiraly4612
@tomaskiraly4612 2 года назад
putin aint no facist hes a red commuist
@firefox7801
@firefox7801 2 года назад
Putin can only provoke nuclear war. The best he can do is drop one bomb.
@static2223
@static2223 2 года назад
I'm an frequent watcher of russian state media since I speak Russian myself. Another thing to note is that russian media barely talks about it's problems if ever. But it certainly loves to talk about the western problems a lot. I don't think there ever been a pause where they don't talk about the west. It's like if you don't address the pink elephant in the room then it's not real. Like you know soo much about the west but you barely hear anything from the east. And that's another key information to take note. Like I can say that in the west whenever something weird happens in the east it will be discussed briefly and then move on but in Russian state it never ends. It just keeps going.
@mauchkimberly
@mauchkimberly 2 года назад
If you swapped out the word, Russia with US, and swapped west with Russia, your statement would be the US media experience.
@jgw9990
@jgw9990 2 года назад
@@mauchkimberly Incorrect. Western media criticises the west all the time. You are wrong.
@sophiemoroz5744
@sophiemoroz5744 2 года назад
Sure, it’s one of the main methods of attention bias :) The most cringe of it is good old whataboutism tradition
@heybabycometobutthead
@heybabycometobutthead 2 года назад
@@mauchkimberly Western media critised Trump 24/7 for his entire Presidency, your comment is synonymous with a Russian troll farm bait type of comment.
@ytpremium4305
@ytpremium4305 2 года назад
I'm from Russia. It's the main reason why I don't watch official Russian media. They're focused on Western problems so much.
@Jp-zd1si
@Jp-zd1si 2 года назад
Dude, I'm literally starting to write a masters paper on psychological warfare and propaganda and this video has been a god sent just to give me a few talking points about Russia and Belarus. Great work!
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
So glad this was useful for you!
@nathanliteroy9835
@nathanliteroy9835 2 года назад
Would suggest to look up Greg Yudin, he's Russian sociologist, I don't know how well his research covers it, but he talks about Russian propaganda and perceptions about Russia a lot, some of the things he says are mentioned in this video
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
@@nathanliteroy9835 Grigory is one of the best voices in Russia right now, and one worries for his safety.
@nathanliteroy9835
@nathanliteroy9835 2 года назад
@@VladVexler Yeah, if he won't get imprisoned, I expect him to leave the country some time soon
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
@@nathanliteroy9835 let’s see how he goes - his strong preference is to stay if at all feasible
@RACER1562
@RACER1562 2 года назад
Не очень хорошо пишу по английски, поэтому напишу на русском. В РФ пропаганда говорит что Европа замёрзнет без газа, почему-то забывая что большая часть РФ не имеет доступа к газу и обогрев частных домов производится ДРОВАМИ ИЛИ УГЛЕМ. Да, в 2022 году. Нередко даже в городах. По ТВ говорят что европейцы в бешенстве от повышения цен на 5%. Знаете на сколько повысились цены в РФ в это же время? От 20% на все. Пропаганда предпочитает не видеть проблемы своей страны, но яркой краской выделяет любые проблемы на западе. Многие на это ведутся.
@AlFredo-sx2yy
@AlFredo-sx2yy 2 года назад
No, no es que haya gente que se este creyendo la propaganda de alli ni ostias...es que verdaderamente las cosas estan jodidas aqui en el oeste. No te creas las polladas que te dicen los americanitos en sus putos videos del YT, tampoco te digo que te creas las polladas que te dicen en la tele, esos tambien te mentiran... pero no te pienses que rusia esta en la mierda. Ahora mismo rusia esta muchisimo mejor que muchos paises del oeste. Asi cuidado con que te crees. No te fies de la propaganda de ningun lado, informate tu por tu cuenta sobre como estan las cosas de verdad en cada sitio... Dices que eso de que haya gente que aun usa madera y carbon en 2022 como si fuese el fin del mundo o algo. Que fumas? Aqui en España hay mazo de gente que usa madera tambien... y no nos pasa nada. No te quejes de eso, que no es exclusivo de Rusia. Todos los paises tienen zonas rurales jajajaja...
@IAmNumber4000
@IAmNumber4000 2 года назад
I appreciate the critique of both sides in a way that isn’t lazy. Often, amateur RU-vid analysts just throw out the “BothSides” maneuver as an attempt to make themselves look like a “reasonable centrist”, but it’s clear that your criticism originates from real knowledge which is a refreshing sight.
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
Thank you!
@rwkamau
@rwkamau 2 года назад
This second rate propaganda relies on people being too stupid to understand that this is itself propaganda.
@MA_KA_PA_TIE
@MA_KA_PA_TIE 2 года назад
The guy didn't really criticize the left at all. All I heard was anti trump shit. Meanwhile putin only invades when Obama or Biden are presidents, yet trump is the Russian favorite? Yeh OK
@MallenBaker
@MallenBaker 2 года назад
Great analysis and extremely important. People who think the "post-truth world" was just about political leaders lying should watch this. Great job Vlad. This channel is on fire right now!
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
Thank you so much Mallen! I hope you’ve had a good Sunday.
@atomicshadowman9143
@atomicshadowman9143 2 года назад
And it takes a biologist to identify a woman.🙄 The gaslighting is off the charts.
@jam99
@jam99 2 года назад
I for one very much dispute Bernard Williams' statement that, "the desire for truthfulness drives a process of criticism which weakens the assurance that there is any secure or unqualified stateable truth". If you really believe that then I suggest you educate yourself in some modern scientific practise. This is the kind of unbased bullshit that philosophers love to spout; anything to convince you things are not as you thought they were ("buy my book", "listen to me more"). The weakening of confidence in truth comes mostly from the bombardment with BIASED alternative views; views and lies that are generated from the aim to control. I just watched a video on a topic regarding another type of conman showing how the search for truth (eventually) corrected a fraud, see ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8BIcAZxFfrc.html. Skip to 1:32:30 if you only have 30secs.
@hamishanderson6738
@hamishanderson6738 2 года назад
Sounds like western MSM.
@jorenvanderark3567
@jorenvanderark3567 2 года назад
@@atomicshadowman9143 It takes two ears to identify a man or a woman. That and the capability to not be an enormous asshole.
@meowmeowmeow1243
@meowmeowmeow1243 2 года назад
As someone who grew up under communism in Romania, i can totally understand what you said about soviet propaganda. At the beginning of each school day we had to stand up facing the huge picture of the dictator Ceausescu on the wall and sing a song for him and the communist party. We had to learn those songs when we were starting school at 6 or 7 years old. Propaganda was everywhere, but we knew it was bullshit, even as children. At home our parents were listening to Radio Free Europe at very low volume, and we were forbidden to speak to anyone outside of our family about it since it was a criminal offence. While everywhere in society there was praise for our "glorious" regime and Soviet system, the stores were empty. The common people had to stay in line for hours just to buy one bread or a bottle of something that was supposed to be milk. In the meat shops, the only thing you could buy in the early 80s were legs from chickens and pigs. But only from the knee down, there was no meat on those bones. Meanwhile, those high up in the communist party had special stores where they could buy whiskey, fine tobacco and French chocolate. I think if the sanctions keep piling up Russia`s economy will tank and will make the 80s-90s crisis look like a golden age. Thank you for another great video Vlad, sorry for the wall of text :)
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
This is not a wall of text but a very meaningful story which I thank you for sharing. I relate so much. It was more liberal in Russian in the 1980s. Interestingly, the food shortages in Russia kicked in a little later a just after the mid 80s…. Thank you so much for your words.
@Jemawin
@Jemawin 2 года назад
Thank you for sharing.
@luxlandm2103
@luxlandm2103 2 года назад
Hello raahka, same here, generation Z given enough time to experience a young life under dictatorship. First was I a proud member of the pioneers with a strong belief in our superiority. The mention of the continuous battle was a matter of fact and I was very keen to get myself involved. And be a HERO. LOL. Things changed when I grew up a little older. The absurd theatre was so obvious… Do you remember our jokes about the communism/ dictatorship mit more human form? They are still applicable with our western life….Good jokes, sad jokes, Brazil style….
@juliereminiec4937
@juliereminiec4937 2 года назад
I understood everything that you've said China's economy is tanking & they have a communist leader
@meowmeowmeow1243
@meowmeowmeow1243 2 года назад
@@luxlandm2103 oh yeah! Nice to see another from the same generation brother! I was a pioneer too :))
@foundati0n
@foundati0n 2 года назад
Hearing about this "aim 3" of russian propaganda - to make people in a country overreact to their influence, reminded me of watching strategy game starcraft 2. There, its pretty known idea, that sometimes you don't need to go for a wacky strategy against your opponent, sometimes you only need to pretend to do it or do it a little bit, purposefully make him see it, and hopefully make him overreact and overcorrect his build order and resource gathering pattern. That way, he would either be building something that counteracts your wacky strategy and silly unit combination, or in panic dumped a lot of resources at once, while you actually corrected and went back to a default build/units that are most consistent and cost-efficient. As a result, this only made him weaker in a straightforward head to head engagement, or put you ahead economically.
@jmmh1313
@jmmh1313 Год назад
I always thought that the quote "prosecution (censorship, incarceration, etc) of antidemocratic agents (far right, nazis) is not antidemocratic, but an act of democratic self-defense" was a gateway to undermine the principles of democracy as such. This aims directly at it.
@paulmakinson1965
@paulmakinson1965 2 года назад
This whole propaganda technique reminds me of French corporate culture. A friend of mine went to a management course in France. He was told that the French style of management he was taught was inspired on dog training technique. Firstly, give out confusing or contradictory orders. When your team is confused and fails, discipline them to insure dominance. Once you have broken them with confusion, they will be compliant. As a result, in big French corporations there is a deficit of creativity. Only the boss is allowed to think, his underlings are reduced to being drones. Now I understand why I never managed to hold a job in french companies.
@shmel3689
@shmel3689 2 года назад
I don't want to do an argumentum ad Hitlerem, but I want to mention that this was a way to break people's spirits in concentration camps, to destroy any personal will and make them, well, as you've said, drones. It's a terrifically effective tactic
@OmmerSyssel
@OmmerSyssel 2 года назад
As a well educated and experienced technician I know how lousy French technology is. Wouldn't own a French car, even as a gift. That they're leading culture could be so questionable, is new to me. When, and which branch are you referring to?
@katethegoat7507
@katethegoat7507 2 года назад
Yeah, authoritarianism in the workplace is cringe
@muhfreedumcums
@muhfreedumcums 2 года назад
Wow, now I understand why Ubisoft makes such crappy identical games without a single new idea.
@B.D.E.
@B.D.E. 2 года назад
That explains why rhe French economy is so stuck too. And yes the lack of innovation compared to the UK and Germany.
@tsentenari4353
@tsentenari4353 2 года назад
The quote you gave at the beginning, about the two of aspects of a) not wanting to be naive, not wanting to be duped, and b) how this can undermine the believe that there is a truth - immediately made me think of the phenomenon how surprisingly clever people can sometimes be prone to believing in conspiracy theories.
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
Thank you! I think the least intelligent and the most intelligent people are less likely to succumb to conspiratorial thinking. You need to be intelligent enough, but not too intelligent. I’m really talking about political intelligence here.
@AntiAzovIndividual
@AntiAzovIndividual 2 года назад
@@VladVexler so your video isn’t propaganda? There isn’t Ukrainian propaganda? Huh, that’s a bit odd, seems like the only propaganda is either by russia or trump, but that in itself isn’t propaganda either? That doesn’t make any sense! You wouldn’t have even made this video without the invasion of Ukraine which you know nothing about
@CrescentUmbreon
@CrescentUmbreon 2 года назад
This is exactly what I've been worried about in America. It's always about demanding to "seek the truth", but never finding it because somehow there's this nebulous dark force "hiding it from you". Always out to get you. So, I guess in the end, whatever would be the most interesting story, the one most counter to the "obvious", must be true. Or, something like that...
@tun0fun
@tun0fun 2 года назад
The problem with deriding those that believe in conspiracy theories is they are increasingly being found to be correct.
@klavesin
@klavesin 2 года назад
@@tun0fun ...due to the "confirmation bias". To be not prone to the fallacy requires to at least be aware of its existence.
@critictactic7090
@critictactic7090 2 года назад
The video is very good, so thank you! The bit about Western actors inadvertently playing into Russia’s hands by panicking about the extent and impact of interference is deeper than it seems. Great story, sir.
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
It's a huge point and we are still not registering it properly.
@critictactic7090
@critictactic7090 2 года назад
@@VladVexler this point does come up in academic discussions. I can testify to that from personal experience. I think what we need is a wider understanding among the populations.
@paulspiers5466
@paulspiers5466 2 года назад
Vlad your impression of Trump made me laugh out loud and at the same time really educated me on how this mixed messaging works to undermine reality. Cheers.
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
Thank you!! I thought it would be a disaster if tried to do the accent, so I didn’t!
@paulspiers5466
@paulspiers5466 2 года назад
@@VladVexler you did his lips perfectly though!
@Stadtpark90
@Stadtpark90 2 года назад
15:44 tears of laughter
@a.b.g.8490
@a.b.g.8490 2 года назад
We all love Trump!! With the exception of the media brainwashed people!
@Jonsson474
@Jonsson474 2 года назад
It was spot on.
@BojanBojovic
@BojanBojovic 2 года назад
Your understanding of what is actually happening behind the scenes is spot on. Not only that but your way of explaining things to us regular humans is incredible. Here in Serbia many stay with the Russian side, partly because of the religion, partly because they do not like NATO because of the 1999. war, but mostly because of the inferiority complex as they know that the west lives much better and those countries are the ones they want to live in and work, so their myth of a great Russia and Serbia "saving" the world is very alive here. However, no one in Serbia explains why they do not support Ukrainian sovereignty the same way they expect Serbia's sovereignty to be respected, also no one talks about horrible things Serbian government did during the nineties so the 1999 war happened in the first place, and in the end no one goes to Russia to work and live but everyone escapes to the western Europe or America. Collective identity, clerical and ethnic nationalism, politically and scientifically illiterate population is prone to make these mistakes unfortunately, so what happens in Russia is mostly what happens to Serbia now, just without nuclear arsenal. Keep up with your brilliant work, such a great content you have here!
@snowsnow4231
@snowsnow4231 2 года назад
I come for a Russian city of Novosibirsk, from Akademgorodok, a science city with over 20 universities, where graduates get job offers from every country from France to Emirates and it is funny to me to listen about "scientifically illiterate population". Russia is way more scientifically literate than any European country, because here if you do not study STEM, you will not get anywhere in life whatsoever. In Europe you can just go work at McDonalds, buy a nice PC and chill, smoke pot and eat Doritos. In Russia, you have to study, because the other option is working as manual labor on the rail road. So your whole claim is such a joke. I have been to European and American schools and universities and I can tell you that Russian studying is hardcore difficulty compared to easy mode you have. Russia is poor because of WW2 and the amount of destruction that our grandparents have rebuilt with their bare hands. There was nothing even remotely similar in Britain, France or USA. And we have actually rebuilt everything without the Marshalls plan which is the cause of why modern Europe is de-facto controlled by the USA. Europe have sold their independence for Marshalls plan, we did not. So yeah, you either lie or say half truth. The full truth is that we are more educated and more hard working, but because of the cost of WW2 we still live worse. But we surely do not need your smart American owners (yes, because Americans own you and your country) to come here to Russia and teach us life. It is like a dog trying to teach something a man. Got anything to say?
@BojanBojovic
@BojanBojovic 2 года назад
@@snowsnow4231 Great comment. It should be pinned as a great example of brainwashed nationalistic mythomania.
@AlexandruSorez
@AlexandruSorez 2 года назад
@@BojanBojovic good to see that Serbia isn’t a lost cause and there are a lot of thinking people there still. Best regards from Ukraine!
@Grgazola
@Grgazola 2 года назад
@@snowsnow4231 You can start with the old misconception that somehow your country has not yet managed to overcome the burden of WW2 and that's holding it back. How many wars will it take Russia to finally equalize the damage of WW2? How many Lenins, Stalins, Putins do you need to massacre your intelligentsia away in your oh so politically literate part of the world?
@coderentity2079
@coderentity2079 2 года назад
@@BojanBojovic Maybe elaborate on what's not true? What is the reality and how he twisted it? Without this you look like a propagandist. Try reasoning.
@girlfriday1299
@girlfriday1299 2 года назад
Fascinating, engaging, witty, brilliant and disturbing all at the same time. This throws more light and gives more shape to what I have been sensing. Wow! Great video!
@KatiKay83
@KatiKay83 2 года назад
I just recently discovered your channel and I have been binge watching your videos. I'm Estonian and I was a child when Soviet Union collapsed, but I do remember how it was like. My heart breaks for Ukrainians, but also for all the saine Russians, who understand, what is really going on, yet are helpless to do anything about it. I get it, that propaganda works, but I'm honestly surprised that it works so well on such huge number of people. How do you believe everything that you see on TV so blindly and not ask any questions? It has always been very difficult for me to understand. Your explanation helped a little though. :) Just wanted to say a big thank you for talking about these things. I have learned a lot from you. I'll be coming back for more. ❤️
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
Dear Kati thank you and welcome! Sorry you share a border with this degenerate in the Kremlin.
@CyanideBtm
@CyanideBtm 2 года назад
"How do you believe everything that you see on TV so blindly and not ask any questions? " - you can ask the same question for people who lives in any other country. Propaganda is not Russian invention. For example: Western MSM declines what they showed 2-5-6 years ago about Ukrainian problem. So it is not true that Russian propaganda is about lie, but western propaganda is about truth. Actually they are the same. And truth is between poles.
@snowsnow4231
@snowsnow4231 2 года назад
"sane Russians who understand" - yes, sane Russians know Russia = bad, America = good by sane your mean young women who do not see anything beyond pumpkin lattes and latest iPhones, right?
@TTFerdinand
@TTFerdinand 2 года назад
Me too. Just discovered this channel, am Estonian and was a kid when Soviet Union collapsed. I believe why propaganda works on huge number of people is because most people are pretty superficial in nature, they're also preoccupied with their own lives and they tend to consume news as "fast food", often not caring enough to really think what they're being fed. That's where propagandists come in and use it for their own gain. They present their own version of the news, often doing it in a scandalous, over-the-top manner, because it sticks better, emphasizing that they somehow know more than the rest of us and that no one else is to be trusted. It gets parroted around and voilà, in time they will have an audience of loyal followers who DON'T trust anyone else. If you try to debate them in any serious manner, it usually ends with them launching ad hominem attacks against you, you're either stupid, brainwashed, paid off or part of the Deep State - or all of the above. But they're never good at debating or proving their point that was under scrutiny in the first place. What I've witnessed is that people who tend to believe propaganda also tend to believe in all kinds of conspiracy theories, some of which are totally mental, but there's no convincing them that they're wrong either. It think it's quite easy to get trapped in propaganda if you're not concious of it, not looking out for it and not knowing how to avoid the traps, but it's really hard to get out of it.
@kathrinscharrer3923
@kathrinscharrer3923 2 года назад
I am German and I am sorry we did not listen to the warnings we recieved from the Baltic States and I am sorry we were entitled and thought NATO unneccesary and redundant.
@Brassblitz
@Brassblitz 2 года назад
Absolutely brilliant. You gather all the threads and show how they weave together very efficiently. I find your perspective incredibly valuable. The solution to chaos created covertly by the strongman and his minions is the public image of strength the strongman projects. Nevermind "strength" really means the ability to trample rights.
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
Glad it was of value.
@fritzmortadella938
@fritzmortadella938 2 года назад
There is brilliant book '' Nothing is true and everything is possible '' of Peter Pomerantsev largely on the same topic
@ianwilliamson20
@ianwilliamson20 2 года назад
Thanks Vlad. This vide was a real Aha! for me. I have been discussing New Zealand's "Freedom Protest" with my teenage niece. A point of difference between us has been the origins of the protest as domestic or foreign. Now I see that this confusion of local grievances with foreign interference is a prime objective of modern propaganda. This is an effective disruption to us from seeing each others points of view. Jolly good stuff.
@OmmerSyssel
@OmmerSyssel 2 года назад
Entire Europe are influenced by Russian propaganda machine. Intelligence services has proven direct connection with Russia, and financial support to right wing politicians, radical groups and EU opposition. Destabilising, and fuelling internal conflicts is a goal for Russia. Along with megalomaniac and unreliable Erdogan, low educated minorities are polarising our former homogeneous societies.
@JochenVogel
@JochenVogel 2 года назад
Again, good food for thought, Vlad. I'll need some time to process it. In line with a discussion I had today with a lovely person who tends to fall for right-wing narratives again and again. The question: "Do You really want the world to look like that?" made them reflect on their ideas for the first time. It's not easy anyway to find out what's right and wrong these days, even without being bombarded with reckless propaganda all the time.
@morrigangg
@morrigangg 2 года назад
@@janneroppola_supersigma Free healthcare, public infrastructure, social safety nets and expanded civil rights. How terrible.
@eirschu8973
@eirschu8973 2 года назад
@@morrigangg what a horror!
@spilltea4241
@spilltea4241 2 года назад
@@morrigangg didn't happen where I come from . Selfish greedy and narcissist people go into politics and it's always a self serving position As long as there's no honesty in the system nothing will get done
@soocccermommy1326
@soocccermommy1326 2 года назад
Just don’t think about it, soon your shitty city will be destroyed by Russia💪
@Diamantenvogel
@Diamantenvogel 2 года назад
One of the most horrifying things I witnessed this year is one student of our programme going completely down this rabbit hole of conspiracy theories and misinformation and talking in the post-truth way you just described. It ended with him trying to mess up two professors' carreers by telling the students weird mixtures of truths and lies about them and trying to encite us against them. In the end it was stuff like "you're wearing the flag of the Ukraine on you, therefore you're a Nazi."
@Kaiya134
@Kaiya134 2 года назад
Current Ukranian government is publicly nazi
@Sl33zytheclown
@Sl33zytheclown 2 года назад
AZOV nazis are real tho. Israel and the US funded them B4 the proxy war currently happening. Probably still funding them, but we won't know until 15-20 yrs after the war.
@Diamantenvogel
@Diamantenvogel 2 года назад
@@Sl33zytheclown Did I say anything about the Azov Battalion though? Yes, obviously there are Nazis in Ukraine, but there are Nazis all over (Eastern) Europe, including Russia. Does Aleksandr Dugin ring a bell for example? The problem is precisely that people take some true elements, combine them with false elements and present themselves as the bringers of the truth. What I'm studying has very little to do with Eastern European politics, so it was all the more bizarre to see professors who are experts in other things being dragged into stuff like this, because one of them happens to be supportive of Ukraine (without holding lectures about it or being personally involved with major political stuff connected to this).
@Sl33zytheclown
@Sl33zytheclown 2 года назад
@@Diamantenvogel you mentioned nazis and Ukraine. So yea you kinda did. Do you support them?
@Diamantenvogel
@Diamantenvogel 2 года назад
@@Sl33zytheclown Look, I'm not gonna discuss this further with you. You're beginning to sound _exactly_ like this student. Just two points about this: a) talking about Nazis does not make you one. If the only ones talking about fascism are fascist we're in big trouble, because we're letting the fascist control the discourse about fascism. b) I can equally turn this sophistic argumentation around on you and ask you whether you support the Nazis in Russia and whether you support Russia's expansion which is having more and more fascist undertones even in the discourses of the people in favour of it.Just look at Putin's speeches and the messed up ideology in Alexandr Dugin's books.
@tsentenari4353
@tsentenari4353 2 года назад
I absolutely loved watching your video, it helped me get a much clearer understanding of things I noticed before, but couldn't quite make sense of. "pouring fuel on conflicts that are already there", "deliberately sending conflicting messages", "the real damage doesn't come from the interference itself, but from the response to it", "tapping into already existing fears and sentiments". Seems like there is something that the Russian state, for all of its inefficiencies, does manage to consistently pull off well after all. (Other than consistently manufacturing state of the art weapons, almost somewhat independent of economic prowess.)
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
Thank you. I think the execution of these concepts is often laughably poor. But the way the Russian state thinks about propaganda is very conceptual and academic.
@ellaeadig263
@ellaeadig263 2 года назад
I friggin love you, Vlad. You present all these concepts in such an easy to understand way. I feel so educated every time I watch one of your videos. Are you a teacher? If not you'd be great at it.
@originalwhig
@originalwhig 2 года назад
Superlative analysis. Thank you!
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
Thank you so much! I believe in it.
@nelsonsilva9966
@nelsonsilva9966 2 года назад
Content in this video is eye opening for sure. Thank you for your hard work and not doing content for the sake of content. Be safe everybody.
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
Pleasure! Thank you for taking time! Be safe.
@greg8106
@greg8106 6 месяцев назад
Just came across your channel and this video. I'm so glad I did, your analysis and presentation is what so many need to hear right now. Thank you, keep up the good work, I know I'll be supporting you as much as I can.
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 6 месяцев назад
Thanks so much Greg. Welcome here! There is also a second channel called Vlad Vexler Chat, where I answer Qs and talk more casually almost every day.
@pauldamse253
@pauldamse253 2 года назад
You put into words exactly what I was feeling about trump, bojo and other such figures, they are more chaos than they are right or left wing, they have few core values that they stick to if any, their opinions are either ambiguous or change based on what's more politically advantageous. I am sometimes struggling not to be angry at people who buy this, you can even show them proof of how they answer a question both ways and will outright ignore it. I'm sick to my stomach
@SimmerCK
@SimmerCK 2 года назад
Same here. I've worked with a Narcissist for 10 years and have become familiar with all his tactics. Trump is like the original mold that created him. People should really educate themselves on Narcissism and learn how they operate, learn how they manipulate people and try to wriggle out of legitimate criticisms. You can read them like a book once you know what to look for. It's really alarming to see how polarized the nation has become and how people are divided against the people they should be trying to find common ground to work towards their common interests. They are playing us like a violin to achieve power and their ambitions.
@ЧеловекЧеловекуЧеловек-й9с
Нет войне! Нет сил выдерживать этот трындец, хочется проснуться в той реальности, где не было этой войны.
@JakeBroe
@JakeBroe 2 года назад
This is the best video of yours that I have watched so far!
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
Thanks so much Jake!
@CraigTalbert
@CraigTalbert 2 года назад
Excellent point at 12:30 or so here. I’m happy I found you. “Maximalist account” is a good word to describe it.
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
Thanks Craig - you can guess I could have been much less polite than ‘maximalist’ !! I hope you are doing well.
@steindor01
@steindor01 2 года назад
Man, I like you! Wish I could be your friend. By the way, I was writing part of my novel which is about fake news and Russian propaganda in Ukraine in 2014, and your video came as a ring to my finger. Thank you!
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
I am so glad to hear that! Good luck with your book!
@pedrosanchez4035
@pedrosanchez4035 2 года назад
Thanks for that Vlad, I am studying the news and social media propaganda we are currently exposed to, on the basis that very little is the truth. This talk has been very helpful in sharpening my critical eye and ear.
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
My pleasure glad it was beneficial!
@pedrosanchez4035
@pedrosanchez4035 2 года назад
@@VladVexler You're a good man, when I say studying, I am not a student (anymore than anyone else), I am actually a 60 year old journalist. It is like "what the heck is going on?" The disinformation has gone stratospheric. One thing that I find interesting is how R.T. has spread out over youtube in different guises. Like you said in your talk, they are very good at this propaganda stuff.
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
@@pedrosanchez4035 I understand! To be honest RT never matched the standards of Russian propaganda for domestic consumption. By the way, what’s happened during the war is that propaganda has moved from being an aperitif to being breakfast lunch and dinner for Russians.
@MattIsBored322
@MattIsBored322 2 года назад
Remember, when russia today broadcasts in english, they are lying
@kidein5735
@kidein5735 2 года назад
If you think that propaganda doesn't work on you - it means it works perfectly
@TheMrB
@TheMrB 2 года назад
The opening five mins is just brilliant in explaining the differences. YOU HAVE TO WRITE A BOOK. I would love you to publish a book on modern Russia under Putin. ❤
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
I am writing a book but my expertise is political values, not propaganda. Peter Pomerantsev is best on propaganda.
@rocobruno
@rocobruno 2 года назад
I really liked your segment on how Russia's manipulative tactics are merely a [machiavelic] way of triggering unresolved conflicts that are already in the fabric of those targeted western democracies. The best and the most obvious example of this is in the USA : this country has piled up do so many grievances.. Putin did not have to do much to push that pressure off the cliff.
@themeiafy
@themeiafy 2 года назад
I keep reading the title as "the postmortem" and I want it to be true.
@gerokron3412
@gerokron3412 2 года назад
Vlad´s best video: glass clear and well presented. I learned a ton from it. Thx, Vlad!
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
Thank you!
@shawnnaconnolly7051
@shawnnaconnolly7051 2 года назад
Brilliant explanation of the propaganda we're all subject to now. Thank you Vlad!
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
Hug to you dear Shawnna!
@mimichapman6210
@mimichapman6210 2 года назад
OMG! Suddenly so much makes sense now. Thank you.
@dro355
@dro355 2 года назад
Makes so much sense, this is why Lavrov speaks so much dribble each time 🤤
@eingew
@eingew 2 года назад
I'm always very sceptical when sb talks about propaganda. Most of the time they aren't saying anything genuine but just try to do some propaganda themselves. But this one is actually an insightful analysis. Thank you for that.
@Spacemongerr
@Spacemongerr 2 года назад
sb?
@eingew
@eingew 2 года назад
@@Spacemongerr somebody
@Spacemongerr
@Spacemongerr 2 года назад
@@eingew ah
@InterstellarMedium
@InterstellarMedium Год назад
Russian propaganda seems to be a mix of what Huxley and Orwell feared: "What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one. Orwell feared those who would deprive us of information. Huxley feared those who would give us so much that we would be reduced to passivity and egoism. Orwell feared that the truth would be concealed from us. Huxley feared the truth would be drowned in a sea of irrelevance. Orwell feared we would become a captive culture. Huxley feared we would become a trivial culture, preoccupied with some equivalent of the feelies, the orgy porgy, and the centrifugal bumblepuppy. As Huxley remarked in Brave New World Revisited, the civil libertarians and rationalists who are ever on the alert to oppose tyranny "failed to take into account man's almost infinite appetite for distractions." In 1984, Huxley added, people are controlled by inflicting pain. In Brave New World, they are controlled by inflicting pleasure. In short, Orwell feared that what we hate will ruin us. Huxley feared that what we love will ruin us. ~Neil Postman"
@jamiesutphin1406
@jamiesutphin1406 2 года назад
I've just discovered your channel and it's just fabulous. I'm gobbling up your videos. As an amateur classical pianist who loves Russian composition, I've never been able to understand Russian brutality versus the depth of culture. At the political level at least in the last century, it's a brutal murderous place, and now Ukraine. Having met many sophisticated Russians, East Germans in the US and in France, I've never come to reconcile this catastrophic political absence.
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304
@proselytizingorthodoxpente8304 2 года назад
Boris Johnson did in fact say that mask wearing was a good thing. And urged people to wear them in public. The UK government's policy was not to force people to wear masks. But rather to encourage the wearing of masks. As it was felt that people were more likely to do so if it was a personal choice, rather than an enforced rule. The same goes for public gatherings. After all, the UK is not China. They knew well that the moment the media focused on the enforcement of mask wearing, rather than the reasons why masks should be worn, would be the moment mask wearing became a political issue rather than a public health issue.
@unknownuser_99
@unknownuser_99 Год назад
My question is what do the Russians (well, the ones involved in propaganda) strive for when they provoke Western countries? What does the exasperation gain them?
@docbogus6128
@docbogus6128 2 года назад
Great work. Keeping cool with this kind of matter is a challenge in itself.
@jonasquastel2690
@jonasquastel2690 Год назад
I would love a video on the origins of these tactics. How far back does it go? Beyond the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion"? Great work Vlad!
@balsarmy
@balsarmy Год назад
There is one "historian" in Russia. Ponasenkov (he is funny from some point). He has international agent status, but I'm not sure he has no ties with Kremlin because he is elitist and a little far right. So... He was writing and discusiing in youtube about Napoleon and 1812 war. How Alexander 1st international politics provoked the war and political misunderstanding. I haven't read his books, but I find it interesting to get bigger picture about those times. Of course, it is easy to misinterpret history to modern view, so need to be careful
@Павел-т2г1н
@Павел-т2г1н 2 года назад
8:45 isn't that exactly what has happened to Ukraine? - The opposition has gone mad and many of them formed the notorious Azov - Ukraine has lost economic ties with Russia and suffered from it - Ukraine has in fact became a US puppet - Ukraine has lost Russian language So maybe belorussians believed Russian propaganda, because they saw same things taking place in the neighbouring Ukraine?
@WretchedEgg528
@WretchedEgg528 2 года назад
propaganda is such an overused word. Instead of debating it's much easier to say "hah! you're brainwashed by your propaganda!". The word "propaganda" is "propaganda" by itself. calling something you don't like "propaganda" is a way to escape answering questions. i don't watch tv. i watch YT's many sources, including Ukrainian ones. but i still support my country
@mylist0song
@mylist0song 2 года назад
Azov got stronghold, because of annexation of Crimea. No, Russian language has not been lost. Economy is not going to drain because of loss of Russian ties, the war is doing that. Do you seriously believe that Russia из вся и все? They need to leave Ukraine alone.Ukraine is a western puppet? By whose opinion? Who’s puppet was Poroshenko? Russian puppet= good? Western =bad? Is the world black and white? How are they paying lately for trolling? Is it still 200 rub for a sentence?
@WretchedEgg528
@WretchedEgg528 2 года назад
@@mylist0song нехуй было нападать на ДНР ЛНР после их подписания с Россией договора о взаимной защите. 8 лет стреляли по людям, "сепаратистами" называли, договоры о прекращении огня нарушали, и не боялись получить в ответ, а теперь вдруг стали жертвами, и оплотом демократии... Только всю политическую опозицию по тюрьмам рассадили сначала, и новостные каналы подчинили напрямую правительству, а остальные забанили, а так ангелочки ебучие... Признайте независимость республик и Крым оставьте в покое, и все кончится. Нет они решили что могут победить.... Теперь мы сделаем так, что вы никогда больше своей армии иметь не будете. Уже относительно скоро. Нехуй было перевороты перворачивать в 2014ом в своем ебаном Киеве. С бандеровцами хороводы водили? Сломали страну своими руками. Все рады за вас. Особенно штаты.
@izmailcherkadze2322
@izmailcherkadze2322 2 года назад
90% of Belarusians didn't believe russian propaganda, look at the polls
@WretchedEgg528
@WretchedEgg528 2 года назад
@@izmailcherkadze2322 what propaganda?
@ВладимирЗорг-д4о
@ВладимирЗорг-д4о 2 года назад
Great vid. Ty for explaining this to foreign audience. A lot of them will never understand, what such strong propaganda can do with people for such long time period. A lot of them just would not believe, that its even possible. From russia, with sadness. Russia will be free.
@lovecats_3346
@lovecats_3346 2 года назад
мир украине, свободу россии!
@Eevanova
@Eevanova 2 года назад
Россия освободится,если ты покинешь её. А где нету пропаганды кстати?🤭
@lovecats_3346
@lovecats_3346 2 года назад
@@Eevanova пропаганда есть везде, об этом в видео говорится. посмотрите видео, потом пишите комментарии. там и говорилось о том, как действует российская пропаганда и почему она сильно отличается от других
@taterkaze9428
@taterkaze9428 2 года назад
Really good analysis. Breaking down Russian propaganda into goals and methods is a university-level approach.
@Asptuber
@Asptuber 2 года назад
Nice one. But I find myself quibbling with your Trump (great impersonation/channelling, btw!) and Johnson examples. Because to me this doesn't sound so much like calculated mixed messaging, but more like some kind of stream of consciousness processing. The kind of talk we all do when we aren't quite convinced one way or the other. (Which is part of both Trump's and Johnson's talents as politicians - relatable!) Where it gets problematic is when it gets chopped up by media and given much more weight than it should. And then it is hopeless to correct, if the media is hostile (which it tends to be) it turns into a gotcha-game. These kinds of "eh, don't really know" utterances in far too many words just do not work in today's media landscape. Maybe we could say that they have a similar effect as the "throw everything at the wall" propaganda in that it can create or amplify uncertainty, but I really think the reason or source for this is different. (Here we could perhaps ponder how private and public ways of being are melting together...)
@daryljay8411
@daryljay8411 Год назад
As always Vlad .. brilliant brain food from you , i m 54 and have worked in Russian and the East..but only listening to your depth can i understand what i did nt understand these decades why, ..
@robertbrennan2268
@robertbrennan2268 2 года назад
Thank you Mr Vexler for this analysis of Alternate Reality versus Russian Propaganda viz Manipulation of Reality such that we are induced to "doubt the possibility of truth itself". Magnificent expose - quite brilliant! Fits Russia Today perfectly. I shal;l watch it several times.
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
So glad it proved of value to you.
@GrzegorzPodoliackich
@GrzegorzPodoliackich 2 года назад
Y’all shouldn’t forget that the west also has a strong propaganda, and almost every post about “bad Russians” and “poor Ukrainians” make intelligent people laugh
@pawepawe6788
@pawepawe6788 2 года назад
There is a big difference between West and Russia. In the west there is plurality, in Russia if you say there's a war you can get arrested. There's no comparison between us. It's time to say that dictatorships like China and Russia has to lose to democratic countries. We have to stop this moral relativism. We were right in Cold War and we are still on the right side.
@GrzegorzPodoliackich
@GrzegorzPodoliackich 2 года назад
@@professionalschizo rly? What do they do instead?
@GrzegorzPodoliackich
@GrzegorzPodoliackich 2 года назад
@@pawepawe6788 democracy doesnt mean being right, soon you’ll get this
@GrzegorzPodoliackich
@GrzegorzPodoliackich 2 года назад
@@professionalschizo The fact is the fact, your government is also fighting those who don’t support it, just not so radically as in Russia
@jactanticulus
@jactanticulus 2 года назад
I desperately need this same video in Russian language so I can show it to my relatives
@noellealissa2206
@noellealissa2206 2 года назад
Thank you Vlad for this true assessment of psychological warfare; under the guise of Propaganda! Brilliant!
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
My pleasure
@snwwkt
@snwwkt 2 года назад
Very educational video, helps me to assure myself not everybody is crazy around me
@ucantSQ
@ucantSQ 4 месяца назад
That was really well put. I wish I could organize my thoughts that succinctly.
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 3 месяца назад
Glad it was useful! An update to this video is coming soon!
@Dimitriworldleader
@Dimitriworldleader 2 года назад
Спасибо что боретесь с западным заблуждение о России
@vuhushmuk
@vuhushmuk 2 года назад
small reminder: this video is also propoganda
@rusticitas
@rusticitas Год назад
I’m fascinated coming back and watching these. Trying to remember how I *felt* at different times in ~2016-2020 then again in Feb 2022 with respect to different news items. Just fascinating the psychology of manipulation. 🤔
@keithbessant8346
@keithbessant8346 Год назад
I remember one programme I used to watch on RT that always finished, 'All that is solid melts into air.' Quite open about undermining everything, just as you say.
@forthrightgambitia1032
@forthrightgambitia1032 2 года назад
Great analysis, I kind of came to he same conclusion based on various observations. One thing I'd add is, some of the origins of these methods is actually a consequence of the West itself and the political engineering that developed in the 80s and especially 90s under spin doctors (Bill Clinton, Blair, Gerhard Schroeder being good examples). These tactics and methods were very managerialist and only had a limited time span of effectiveness, but people like Surkov in Russia took them and added a dose of Machiavellianism. This is why the historical wounds of the Iraq War and the 2008 crisis still are a gangrene in Western politics - because in many ways the way governments responded to them prepared the ground and the atmosphere to make people receptive to the information blizzard that came. As you said, there are parallels with the 90s Russias, in this case the ennui and distrust of the Brezhnev stagnation that has similarities to where we are now (Adam Curtis captured this perfectly in an aesthetic sense even if his actual logical arguments are wobbly). Two other key points I also feel are important: 1. Manipulation of elite opinion and decision making is just as important. I notice that for example in foreign policy circles there is targeted propoganda to those in the 'know'. The KGB always saw intellectuals, mavericks and poltiical eccentrics (both left and right) as easy targets to amplify their own messages or sow doubt in elite decision making. I can't help but feel this is a tradition that Putin has continued. In some ways this is just as if not more important than other forms of manipulation (see what happened in Syria). 2. I can't help but feel the West blindly ignored the lessons of the boom in online Islamic fundamentalism in the 2000s. When I think back (and having had a school teacher who turned out to be embroiled in these communities) we refused to understand or learn what happened there, partly through a refusal to deal culturally and especially intellectually with the movement. I can't help but feel the Russian intelligence agencies learnt a great deal more about the themes and messages that appeal to anomie ridden young men and women in modern societies. That is traditional religion, traditionalist ideologies, movements that demand action and so give life a sense of purpose. There has been no engagement with this which is one of the reasons why relatively sparse Russian seeds of propoganda have such great effect among people highly responsive to the message. 3. Robert Baer has been suggesting the CIA has been blindedsided by a 'fourth man' insider. Whilst Western malaise goes deeper, this might explain why Western elites have been so slow to recognise Putin for what he is, albeit... part of that must be their own wishful thinking (which maybe is the reason why any such moles got away with it).
@nicoservin2870
@nicoservin2870 2 года назад
I think modern propaganda is the correct term because many countries do this even USA
@reformCopyright
@reformCopyright 2 года назад
This seems similar to how biggest damage of terrorism isn't the direct damage, but us freaking out about it and restricting our own freedoms.
@f4ust85
@f4ust85 Год назад
I also grew up in a socialist country. I think the crucial and most apparent difference between the communist/Soviet and current/Russian propaganda is that back then there was a prospective and consistent ideology with a clear path ahead (at least until late Brezhnev era) and also the propaganda was very much progressive: it handily criticised capitalism or western imperialism left and right but would not ever spread hate against the people of the west, was very much against racism or xenophobia, against sexism and promoted progressive ideals. In that sense, the propaganda was "ahead" of the actual practice at the time, which was often conservative. Today it seems to be other way around.
@dougkehoe3758
@dougkehoe3758 2 года назад
Too bad we have to spell it out. Great job Vlad.
@patrickbrennan1523
@patrickbrennan1523 2 года назад
This is exactly what I’ve been trying to explain to people when it comes to psychological and information warfare but I’m not intelligent enough to put into words how it works. Great video!!
@grouchy88
@grouchy88 2 года назад
i heard the term 'confusion politics' floating around in regards to what surkow is doing in russia
@СпаркиСпаркиБуМен
Максим Кац? До свидания ...
@VladislavTurbanov
@VladislavTurbanov 2 года назад
Propaganda-propaganda-propaganda. This video is a propaganda in itself.
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 2 года назад
And does that disprove anything that he said?
@VladislavTurbanov
@VladislavTurbanov 2 года назад
@@baneofbanes well, sometimes it's about HOW you say it and in what PROPORTION the sentiments are presented to the viewer. Otherwise it's a manipulation of its own. And a rather blatant NLP in this case is clearly a waste of time for a truth-seeker.
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes 2 года назад
@@VladislavTurbanov well when you become a truth seeker instead of a bullshit peddler let me know
@sameaseverybodyelse
@sameaseverybodyelse 2 года назад
Awesome job man. Easy to understand and digest. I've started to notice that sense of being gaslit when listening to Poo-bucket and his mates. It led me to the unfortunate realisation that by simply engaging in conversation is not going to get anyone anywhere. I'm sure the powers that be realise this too and I'm hopeful they've got other plans to stop the murder, traumatisation and dislocation of the Ukrainian peoples.
@B.D.E.
@B.D.E. 2 года назад
Excellent stuff!
@Juan_lauda
@Juan_lauda Год назад
While I agree with 95% of this, removing the catalysing agent from the toxic brew will sure go a long way to stabilising the patient.
@doubleplusgoodthinker9434
@doubleplusgoodthinker9434 2 года назад
I remember visiting the USSR some years before it fell. The tour guide would regularly deliver lectures on how great the Soviet system was, when we could see from looking about us that it was not. However she was just doing her job and was quite privileged. Now we knew she was giving us a load of garbage. More importantly, she knew that we knew she was talking garbage. But we just went along with it. I asked a couple of questions, but they were just ignored or deflected. So I just played the game like everyone else. I did not want to make life difficult for the poor woman. It is quite insidious how it creeps up on you. I can remember her saying how much Lenin was " much loved by the people", because that is what she kept saying. I kept repeating it and you could see she was pleased. No mention was ever made of Stalin. She gave me a booklet about the Soviet government. Not a word said about Uncle Joe. Real alternative reality at work.
@roncollins1046
@roncollins1046 2 года назад
It bears mentioning that Ras-Putin's original training was not as a Party apparatchik but rather as a KGB counterintelligence operative. Something many do not grasp about the intelligence component of Soviet history is that to an increasing degree after the death of Stalin, the Party and the state-security organs (and especially the KGB) became two distinct factions working more against each other's interests than mutually upholding them, which fractured the integrity of the Soviet state as a whole to eventually cause it to self-destruct with the election of Yeltsin and the dissolution of the USSR. The Communist Party has yet to recover as a force to reckon with in Russia, as meanwhile the KGB and its intelligence infrastructure (which never gave a rat's ass about Lenin or the dictatorship of the proletariat, their God was Felix Dzerzhinski, and their mission was to protect the state, mostly by co-opting both the Party and the state into their own intentions), survived more or less intact. Bill Browder would have us believe that the current Russian state is best understood as a criminal enterprise, and he is correct in a sense, but without grasping the full magnitude of the longstanding ties and overlapping interests of the KGB and the ancient pre-Romanov Russian criminal underworld, it is difficult to understand that in Russia, organized crime, the state security apparatus, and the colossal propaganda-industrial complex are not just three distinct sectors with interests held in common. The State IS the mafia, yes, but the mafia is also the intelligence community, and the intel community is also the propaganda machine. They are indistinct and interchangeable, and no ideology whatsoever is required to hold them all in power, only chaos, confusion, fear, grudging obedience, and continuous self-preserving restraint. And cowardice: let's not forget this is a country where a young man's life is worth the value of a new substandard Russian car, and where a nationwide audience knows better than to call out the monstrosity of such a story. The chaos and confusion referred to here as the aims of Russian propaganda today, in my view, can be directly traced not, as our host would agree, to Soviet propaganda methods, but rather back to Soviet intelligence and especially counterintelligence operations during the Great Patriotic War. And we must acknowledge that, in Soviet terms of national self-interest, the US and Great Britain had been the enemy all along, and the short-term alliance with them was seen as much as a new field of opportunity to further subvert the capitalist west as it was a means to an end of defeating Hitler. Seeding all those enemies' camps with contradictory messaging, as well as co-opting high-ranking personnel of Germany and the Allies alike into absurd and self-destructive schemes they never knew were being orchestrated by NKVD agents, were never meant to convince the Nazis or the British and Americans of one thing or another, but rather to create rival schools of thought and competing hypotheses among the upper echelons of all their high-command structures, over what those damn Bolsheviks must be thinking. All the way through the farcical and futile 'Russian Collusion' media craze, I kept thinking, this looks exactly like what the Kremlin and its counterintelligence strategists must have had in mind: the American media embarrassing itself so badly with hyperventilative fanaticism all directed at delivering its one message of 'Orange Man Bad' for years on end, that in due course few could remember a time when American media could ever be taken seriously for anything but dutifully shouting hostile political jingoisms. The squandering of credibility indulged in by American media over the largely exaggerated, badly reported, and to a great extent fictitious, narrative about Russia stealing an election lent itself well to a new but already well-established internet-era form of addiction, otherwise known as 'virtue signaling.' And it was the explosive post-2016 expansion of virtue signaling itself, in whatever form and waving whichever banner, and the attendant divisiveness and polarization in American discourse which must have exceeded Kremlin hopes by orders of magnitude from the night Hilary Clinton lost until today, as the new political heroin for an era when everyone is carrying around a 24/7 syringe delivering continual fixes of web access in their hands, and can hardly resist playing with it, that has been the whole point of Putinesque propaganda. I wonder if it would not be more accurate not to even call it propaganda at all, but rather what it actually is: plain old KGB-inspired counter-intelligence. And it is frighteningly effective.
@Darknessfalls003
@Darknessfalls003 2 года назад
Most of the techniques you explained I've seen in the Western world, Europe does it more tidy than the US Eventually you should pick which government's goal seems better to you
@smthing_likethat
@smthing_likethat 2 года назад
make same video about western propoganda and hypocrisy
@_loss_
@_loss_ 2 года назад
I kinda see parallels with the "love Lenin more than your parents" here in Sweden. Most of us legitimately trust the government over our parents.
@algreen1231
@algreen1231 2 года назад
Please answer...how much CIA payroll?
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
Millions
@algreen1231
@algreen1231 2 года назад
@@VladVexler Thanks, I was sure of that. Regards
@eumefmeauh6193
@eumefmeauh6193 Год назад
Super video!
@ret4350
@ret4350 2 года назад
I asked a 24 year old co worker several weeks ago. Who is taking a psychology class this semester, what she has learned about Putin and Russian politics. She said who is Putin. US high education.
@JeanLucPicard85
@JeanLucPicard85 2 года назад
Well explained.
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
Thanks
@maddoo23
@maddoo23 2 года назад
The second greatest trick the devil ever pulled - He convinced everyone that the other side is the devil.
@ucantgetuson
@ucantgetuson 2 года назад
im russian and im scared of people who believe in all of this shit and calmly watching this disaster saying there's no war
@НиколайТрушников-х4ц
Really cool vid, it's obvious that you are deep in the topic:) As a russian person myself, I wanna add a bit about aim#3: probably even bigger goal for propaganda is not only cause an overreaction (which looks like cytokine storm during covid), but to show the biggest 'outliers' from western political scenes to the russians and say: "we've told you that this barbarians in the west are awful, here are some proofs". Unfortunately, only several percents of russians were abroad and saw the reality by their own, just 'cause Russia is in fact a poor country if you exclude Moscow, SPb, Sochi and Kazan'. Hope the regime will fall soon (ha-ha, I'm still naive), and hope the war will end asap. Glory to Ukraine, Live Belarus and Russia will be free.
@mariajade3750
@mariajade3750 2 года назад
Russia is rich, Russians are poor:)
@al-Assas
@al-Assas 2 года назад
The way you use metaphors so liberally, confident that they will clarify instead of obscure, it's amazing. I gained 5 points of IQ from watching this. Also: this is a very important video.
@niciesman1419
@niciesman1419 2 года назад
As a tyrant I'll take notes
@mcfireballs3491
@mcfireballs3491 2 года назад
Finally, I've been waiting for a video like this since the beginning of the war . Why does it only now pops up, meh YT. Thank you for making it, and Slava ukraini
@jonjon3829
@jonjon3829 2 года назад
i prefer putins propaganda to western propaganda.
@jonjon3829
@jonjon3829 2 года назад
@zbek you literally described the whole west
@KomeRad
@KomeRad 2 года назад
You seem like those XX western fans of Soviet Union, consuming the ideology of a country, without dealing with it's reality.
@dancer.tribal2175
@dancer.tribal2175 2 года назад
Thank you for your work, Vlad! Спасибо!
@edwardbond7035
@edwardbond7035 2 года назад
The best lies always have some truth in them, but toward your point of view.
@solanjedere
@solanjedere 2 года назад
Have u seen American movies? They portrait Russians like the bad guys. Actually everyone is the bad guy and Americans come to save the world. They never talk about the invasions and coupes they promote. Eating their side is just disgusting.
@namedperson1436
@namedperson1436 2 года назад
Propagandist spreads propaganda about Russian propaganda. Anyone who watched to the end just got dumber. Thank you RU-vid for another great recommendation.
@400grvodki2bokalapiva
@400grvodki2bokalapiva 2 года назад
THIS VIDEO TO THE TRENDS
@kdubs9111
@kdubs9111 2 года назад
Meanwhile in Yemen…
@evryatis9231
@evryatis9231 2 года назад
Says the propagandist. We see nothing but propaganda here.
@Corporatizm
@Corporatizm 2 года назад
This is the most clever video I've seen in a while. And I do watch science and geopolitics. So much truth in there.
@AntiAzovIndividual
@AntiAzovIndividual 2 года назад
Oh so there isn’t Ukrainian propaganda? Wow, not biased AT ALL huh?
@timgels2918
@timgels2918 2 года назад
What a great video. More people should see this
@VladVexler
@VladVexler 2 года назад
Glad it was useful
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