Thanks for that information. Conversions are pretty sophisticated these days. The sheer amount of stuff in the base vans and the conversions, really has bitten a chunk out of payloads though. Sounds like I am hard to please but this is my only bugbear with modern conversions, as compared with 20 years ago. Vans still try to get under GVW of 3.5 tonnes for licensing. The base vehicles are far superior now.