The Problem of Suffering: A Christian Response 

The last point, He walked among us. He knows our hurtings. He felt our pain. He feels *all* our pain. He knows our yearnings before we utter them. Glory be to his holy name.

Top-notch content. As a Christian who had once fallen away from the Faith and who is still skeptical, you are really helping solidify things for me. Your use of logic and reason is so refreshing.

I lost my baby girl today... I rewatched this, and this is very helpful. The Lord gave her to me, and the Lord took her away... blessed be the name of the Lord.

"Nothing is permanent in this wicked world, not even our troubles." Charlie Chaplin.

My grandfather died a few days ago and this really helps

I had a near death experience and absolutely left my body. I remember bits and pieces but one of the strongest memories was seeing an ocean of souls and being at full eternal peace aside from the fact that I should not stay no matter how much I wanted to. It really did seem more real than real. I think that’s because I was hyper aware of reality rather than limited to my bodies ability to perceive it. I told my family and they believe me but not because they just trust me. Also because I listened to their conversations while I was in surgery and repeated them back verbatim when I came out. Edit: I read the passage in Revelations about the ocean of souls AFTER seeing it in my experience. I cried when I read it because John used the same description I did because we saw the same thing and it’s the best way to describe it. So beautiful.

For twelve years I have been falling further and further into a world of physical pain as all of my sensory nerves are malfunctioning, creating 24/7 burning, stabbing, aching, tingling pains all over my body. My autonomic nerves, the ones that control automatic function, are malfunctioning as well. Ringing ears, burning eyes, dry mouth, diving blood pressure, digestive malfunction, urinary problems. Despairing of life has become a daily reality. I am trusting that God is working in all of this. Working something in me and in others. I am trusting in His promise of an eternity with no pain.

Really beautifully done. This one and the videos on heaven and hell would be a video I'd say every Pastor should play for their congregation.

I’m in between switching from night shifts to day shifts and I’m listening to this as I lay here not able to sleep yet. This is wonderful. Not where I expected to end up tonight, but glad I did.

This video and @Deflate's video response to Alex O'Connor's Animal Suffering argument against God act together as my new 'go to' resource for the subject!

"In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world" John 16:33

I had this problem in my head ever since I lost my grandparents. This helped me a lot. To be honest, I don't usually tear up while looking at videos but this almost made me break down. Thank you for this.

I suffer with schizophrenia and I’m getting tired of this mental illness

This made me cry (in a good way...I think?). I lost my cat about two weeks ago. She was only 10, and one of my main emotional anchors, so it was quite a blow. It's really nice to think that she's getting rewarded for her loyalty, and for all the love and support she gave me over the past decade (the finest milk - all she can drink). May she be safe and happy in God's arms until the day I get to join her.

"The Law Of Triumph" is absolutely fascinating. I can't overemphasize how important this is and will be in time! It ended very good!

I would argue that much of the gratuitous evil (natural disasters, disease etc) could be greatly reduced to negligible levels if humans had a Biblical worldview in terms of the use of their money and resources, in caring for others, in nations who were devoted to God and prayer, etc etc on and on. Even though these things don’t seem to carry a direct correlation to the evil free choices of men, I believe they are more intertwined than we often think.

"...there is something about life that the existence of suffering can never overtake". I like this one

I hate when animals get hit in the road 🛣️ and it breaks my heart that no one stops to help them. They suffered on the side of the road. Happened everyday. People say it's already dead so who cares if it's run over again? I cried when this happened. Animals and children are God's gifts to the world 🌎 people are Soo heartless when they throw away dead animals. My parents weren't animal lovers.

This is a better sermon than those at my own church! Keep up the good work!

This video has really helped me because I’m going through a tough time of loneliness. God Bless your ministry Mike.

I don’t understand why this video has got so few views! It’s one of the best, if not the best, on explanation of why God allows evil and suffering in this world. Well done Inspiring Philosophy!

Man i loved this video so much, youtube recently recommended me Alex O Connor´s video on the problem of evil recently and i found it an interesting point of discussion, and the next day this video appears on my page haha, i loved the points and found them pretty interesting and in line with the nature of God, may God bless this chanel because it always allows me to get more knowledge on my faith❤

IP, Outstanding video as always. I feel like we Christians leave all the work for you but I have to say, we are really grateful for all of your videos. They are incredibly encouraging and informative. God bless you.

Great video! I was recently cyberbullied, and it really upset me because, up until that point, I had really good reactions from other people, and it honestly made me sad.☹️ Then, I watched this video, and it really helped cheer me up! Thanks a lot, Mr. Jones!😀

I’d put it like this, we as humans and animals are tiny creatures in an extremely dangerous universe. That fact that we are even alive right now is in itself a Miracle, having all the narrow but necessary factors to maintain life. Why don’t we expect suffering and some level of misfortune and give thanks for the life that we have and the one who sustains it?

This is without doubt the deepest and most profound explanation of this subject I have ever heard as a Christian and I feel blessed by it........Many thanks for uploading it . GOD bless and keep you IP. Grace and peace to the Christian family Gilly wife of Mark

Have we ever thought about the evils that God HAS prevented? Bad things that could have happened but because they never did we do not know about them. Consider all the times you may have narrowly missed death. Meditate on the many ways God has delivered you from evil.

This law of triumph really does seem to be embedded within our reality it's like reality itself represents God's victory on the cross

Revelation 21:4 is my favorite verse. & the first verse I ever use when speaking scripture to non believers

This has been one of the most beautiful videos I've seen. My uncle passed recently from a very painful cancer. A warrior til the end. May he be with God in His glory now that he wakes up from this dream. In which he touched many lives with his beautiful presence and attitude.

“He was despised and rejected- a man of sorrows, acquainted with deepest grief. We turned our backs on him and looked the other way. He was despised, and we did not care. Yet it was our weaknesses he carried; it was our sorrows that weighed him down. And we thought his troubles were a punishment from God, a punishment for his own sins! But he was pierced for our rebellion, crushed for our sins. He was beaten so we could be whole. He was whipped so we could be healed. All of us, like sheep, have strayed away. We have left God’s paths to follow our own. Yet the Lord laid on him the sins of us all. He was oppressed and treated harshly, yet he never said a word. He was led like a lamb to the slaughter. And as a sheep is silent before the shearers, he did not open his mouth. Unjustly condemned, he was led away. No one cared that he died without descendants, that his life was cut short in midstream. But he was struck down for the rebellion of my people. He had done no wrong and had never deceived anyone. But he was buried like a criminal; he was put in a rich man’s grave. But it was the Lord’s good plan to crush him and cause him grief. Yet when his life is made an offering for sin, he will have many descendants. He will enjoy a long life, and the Lord’s good plan will prosper in his hands. When he sees all that is accomplished by his anguish, he will be satisfied. And because of his experience, my righteous servant will make it possible for many to be counted righteous, for he will bear all their sins. I will give him the honors of a victorious soldier, because he exposed himself to death. He was counted among the rebels. He bore the sins of many and interceded for rebels.” ‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭53:3-12‬ ‭NLT‬‬ This was written around 700 years before Jesus came into the earth, yet it describes His life perfectly. "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have eternal life." John 3:16 God loves you so much and showed that by sending His Son to die for us so that we may inherit eternal life. We deserve hell but He gave us heaven through faith in Jesus. He took the punishment we deserved and by putting our faith in Him we can be saved. The Key To Eternal Life: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-uZdv-TtiMkg.html For evidence for Christianity and answered questions, check out ru-vid.com and ru-vid.com because if Jesus really rose from the dead it is the most important fact ever!

A drop of sorrow, in an ocean of joy. Great line!

"For now we see through a mirror, dimly. And then we shall see face to face."

This is by far the best theodicy for suffering I’ve ever seen. I’m very certain you just cracked it. Amazing job IP.

The irony is that this view on suffering is actually equally a secular one. Idioms like "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger" and "No pain, no gain" are widely accepted by theists and atheists alike because they communicate the very fundamental and objective truth that suffering promotes character building and wisdom. Thus, it's no surprise that "Our God is a consuming fire". Suffering is merely the fire of His holiness consuming our impurities and imperfections.

Thank you. My cat was suffering terribly from multiple seizures. I wanted to curse God so badly because I felt why the hell would he allow such suffering to come upon an absolutely innocent creature. I'm more at peace now. Thanks.

Another great Treatise on Christianity. 😊👍 it takes a lot of courage in the modern age to put out videos like this, and lay bare your faith before others. I love to CS Lewis for this reason. And you use the same methodology uses, his very rational. Doesn't get into church Dogma, he just tells people how he personally sees his faith. And I am glad to see someone continuing on the work of Lewis. CS Lewis change my life and I know he's changed the world and his own way. Does Fireside Chats during World War II kept England strong and got them to the London Blitz and the second world war. I think these videos are necessary in the times we live. Pope John Paul once said "through suffering we can become better". When CS Lewis first turned atheism he used this quote at once my heart was. " broken and exalted" I think sometimes pain opens us up to God, because none of us can ever forget how much he suffered alone on the ✝ and the only thing that saw his mission through was God's love for him and his love for God

Thanks IP, I needed this. I know it's an logical response and not an emotional one but it still helped. I'm going through some really bad stuff now so if anyone out there was a good track record with God answering their prayers, I'd be grateful for one prayer for me too. Thanks everyone and if you are having problems now, try to stay strong, this nightmare will be over soon

Those are my favourite type of videos that you make! I love the ones of quantum theory and Christianity in general, like this; thank you for making it, looking forward to see this.

It was while I was suffering God found me.

If God Himself can literally come down and willingly get tortured to death, why should we as Christians expect to have easy and painless lives?

Thanks Michael. Just came from an atheist triumphantly claiming that evil disproves God so this helps. It also seems like so many people never mention the Christian story when addressing this problem.

This was great IP, I love your vids they’re so well put together keep doing this amazing work! You truly are inspiring

I cried the first time I saw this video. I needed to hear this.

It is impossible to comprehend joy and happiness without experiencing the opposite.

Because he loves our suffering immensely so much so he ensures we never escape it not even in death. Very loving to force suffering for eternity

He joined us in our suffering that we might join Him in His resurrection.

Had an Irish friend who said that they cry when a child is born into this world and rejoice when they leave it...

This is the ultimate example of having one's cake and eating it. You want to excuse God from any blame in creating a world where suffering must exist by saying he just created it and let it evolve, with some overarching “law of triumph” that we nevertheless must figure out on our own. But you also want you deity to be the Christian God who prepared a sacrifice for sins from the foundation of the world (Revelation 13:8). You cannot have it both ways.

Just wanted to thank you for making these videos. You are helping me strengthen my weakening faith.

A few things I dont understand or more so a few concerns that I have are about those whom are deeply depressed concerning the suffering they have lived through and/or whatever outside factors that may be troubling them as well. From what I understand - many such individuals would likely scoff at the ideas presented here. However, from what scripture tells us, a radical transformation must occur for such people for them to change - and this is initiated by the radical transformation through Love. One of the ideas in this video is that we live in a dream like state. Also, John 3:16 tells us that God doesn't want none to parish. Given all this is true, why wouldn't Christ come down in a vision or perhaps a dream similar to how He did with Saul and let such people - whom are on the brink of suicide - experience His overwhelming tidal wave of Love and Joy - and be the radical Love that many such individuals need to change them - so that they may not parish and forever be lost to Him? Hundreds of thousands of people die each year due to suicide. Why wouldn't Christ pay such people a visit in hopes thet that will change them and save them from eternal damnation? Surely significantly less suicides would occur - and significantly more of these people would be saved and could preach their experiences to those whom were like them this saving even more in the long run, and employ in more soul building? Another one is why does Hell have to be eternal damnation rather than reincarnation? I understand that it would diminish the second chance given to us by Christ and that many would sadly just repeat the cycle over and over again - but surely if some in hell were given a new second or possibly a thrid life each with different circumstances than their original life they may likely choose to be with God? Another is that I disagree with what you said about how (something along the lines of) some suffering wont have lasting damage in the next life. But what about those whom, for example, have experienced tremendous amounts of suffering that psychologically damages them for the rest of their life? Suffering that causes them even more suffering in the form of night terrors, anxiety attacks, PDSD, etc in the decades after the fact? I've meet dosens of such people online over the last few years alone and they all have experienced tremendous amounts of suffering and are in positions where certain circumstances such as the environment they are in simply make it worse and they aren't able to get out of it. How can such individuals ever be able to accept Christ? I highly doubt telling them God allowed them to experience their initial suffering, as well as the decades of extra suffering on top of that, all for character development. When framing it like this, it almost sounds cruel if not somehow more than cruel. Though it is true that if they were to accept Christ, all such suffering would be like a drop in an ocean of love and joy - but the issue is that this scale of suffering greatly hinders their ability or desire to be with Christ in the first place. From there perspective, telling them all this wouldn't change them at all - if not make them resent God and Christianity even more (assuming they dont already). But what would possibly change them is a radical transformation through the radical Love and Joy of Christ. Which takes us back to the 1st issue... Why wouldn't Christ visit such people in a vision or a dream to help them when only Gods love can possibly change them? And the bullying analogy was quite poor imho, considering how any loving and protective parent would definitely confront the a bully that is picking on or beating up their child, confront the bullies parent/s, and/or confront the school. Not sit aside at home and do nothing or teach their children how to throw a punch or teach them what to say in order to confront the bully themselves just for the sake of character development. A parent stepping in to put a stop to a school bully doesn't deprive them of character development in the future, nor does in insinuate that the child will be babied from here on out. There are circumstances in which character development in needed and circumstances in which character development is unnecessary. A person suffering from PTSD and Depression from a terrible trauma from their childhood doesn't warrant any character development. A person struggling from financial issues because of an addiction does warrant character development because they need to move past their addiction so that they can put the money being wasted to good use. See what I mean? In certain circumstances, no character development or soul building is present. Thus the suffering is unwarranted thus unnecessary. I understand than the vast majority of suffering can/will result in character development, soul building, and development of virtues but there are too many examples where the suffering of select individuals is too great and they develop little no virtues from their suffering. As a matter of fact, there are plenty of people whom undergo the opposite of character development, soul building, and virtue development. Like a hard working man whom is providing for his family becomes disabled in an accident at work and experiences lasting pain. He's no longer able to work so he looses his job. With no job, he cannot provide for his family, and thus is no longer the provider of the family like he once was. Because of this, his friends and family simply pity him rather than respect him. And slowly over time he degrades and whatever virtues he once had have all diminished into vices. What about people like this whom experience a net negative in terms of character development, soul building, and virtue development? How can such a man deprived of all this develop anything virtuous or have the longevity or optimism to seek God given their condition? Had he not gotten injured, his character, soul, and virtues would've developed just fine with any regular challenges. If not, how does the need to be developed warrant this amount of suffering? Surely there are other ways in order to achieve equal or greater amounts of development that don't involve such amount of suffering? Just reading this I can see a few holes but i just wanted to play devils advocate for a bit. Hopefully you're answers will be as good as the video was ^^

I was just watching an excellent RU-vid Channel named "Philosophy Vibe", which though employing cartoon characters, is serious in its discussions without the ascerbic South Park or other popular cartoon vibe (or, for that matter, e.g., Dark Matter). It is an excellent channel which discusses metaphysical questions. One episode addresses the free-will defense. The conclusion was that although this satisfies anthropogenetic evil, it does not satisfy natural evil. It could be that this is a test, our existence in this reality, whatever it is, is ephemeral, and possibly a microcosm or simulation (not necessarily digital) within an emcompassing reality.

We persons value more what we have when we did not have it in the past, when it was hard to achieve it we enjoy it more, value it more, we are more happy

Once again thanking you in advance for when I share this video with friends and family

May Jesus Christ save us all.

I've been thinking for some time that our life on Earth is a vetting process, to see who is willing and wants to serve/obey/love God and be with Him in eternity. Its a vague thought but it appears that way to me. Why would God want people in Heaven around Him that don't love or want to listen to Him?? Your comments about suffering are quite in-depth. Somewhere I heard (Ytube) a short blurb about why suffering on earth. It was so simple but so accurate and profound I forgot to bookmark it. But it basically followed the same pattern as IP lays out. From my own life experience...pain & suffering can serve a greater purpose, a purpose you can't even imagine at the time of pain. It may be to wake you up that you are mortal flesh. It may be to put you in a position to effect someone's life, as well as your own. As someone who suffers with chronic pain I have great empathy for those suffering. Its made me far more reflective on life, people, creation, universe, afterlife....things far more lasting than our lives on Earth. Without the pain & ailments I'd likely be doing things more for myself, being distracted by traveling or working extra for more money. Its a complicated topic that us mortal humans cannot comprehend. Bryan Melvin has seen both Hell and Heaven and has great insight about why God did/does what He did and is doing. His hell testimony will make your hair stand up. Certainly will get your attention.

I kind of feel like you missed the point of the argument to be honest. It's not so much that suffering is greater than a good God could allow so much as it is that an all powerful being wouldn't need to allow suffering period. If you are going to say that suffering makes us stronger that only makes sense if you are saying he deliberately made it so suffering is how we improve. It's not just that suffering is a thing but more that if there is a God that is wholly good then he would probably not make it so that horrendous suffering is how we advance. At least that was my takeaway.

From a Bayesian Theist.....in having seen thousands of people face death, I would humble submit for your critical assessment, that physics, neuroscience, and ancient intuition can greatly enhance the most important strength that we have...which is faith of course. If science can postulate the Big Bang started with a quantum fluctuation in the Quantum Void, then its logically consistent to think that in a nearly infinite time ago, a infinite intelligent form of consciousness could also have come into being. BEST WISHES

✝️ god has not forsaken me

As someone who has left the faith and will not come back, I will say this is an extremely well-detailed video. Amazing work!

I thought God was love... then I went to church

Also, as someone with PTSD I can say that horrible u explainable dreams and even reality shake me for days. Such dreams are so horrific and waking up does not dessipate them.

[Please disregard my name; I'm not trolling or seeking to offend, I just like the name Lucifer] This video is beautiful and made me think deeper. The analogy of the pains of childhood was powerful! When I was but a boy, I was afraid of the dark, thought my parents were being mean when disciplining me, or upset because of having chores. Now as an adult, I can look back and laugh at how silly I was---there's no monster under the bed or in the dark. How silly was I! Mom and Dad's scoldings were only preparing me, teaching me to grow into being a responsible adult. But in that moment, as a child, the fear and anxiety and terror I felt was real---real to my childish mind! The prison I was in was my own ignorance and limitations----not reality. When a I was a child, you couldn't tell me or convince me that there's nothing to be afraid of. My childish mind was having none of that! Now as a man, I clearly see and I laugh. So likewise it is with us with our Creator. In fact, the sheer magnitude and unspeakable depravities of this life can give us an idea---altogether faint---of the bliss in the life to come. If God is willing to allow humanity to rule themselves to such a degree and for the world to be as bad as it is----then how much our hope! If the evils of this world are momentary and light----then how far removed we will be from the sufferings of this life!!! The greatest of evils on Earth compared to Heaven's smallest good is reassuring. Our reward will be of such a magnitude that humanity's greatest evils and sufferings will be so in insignificant in our minds then. We, like the child who grows up, will look upon the pain of the past and laugh. There's no monster under my bed! How silly was I! I never had anything to worry about after all! How silly were we all!

I really appreciate how you manage to address the logic of the argument while remaining compassionate. When we endure suffering and feel God's love in the midst of it, it gives an understanding of the depth of His love that would not be possible without the suffering. That can change the heart and build the soul.

I would happily give up cancer research for no cancer.

I think this is probably the most difficult objection. The only way I have come to accept it is that our moral actions have some type of effect on creation and that is why there are all those natural evils, because our sins have polluted creation in a way and it affects the entire system.

It was the great philosopher some know as "50 Cent" who perhaps said it best, "Sunny days wouldn't be special if it wasn't for rain / Joy wouldn't feel so good if it wasn't for pain"

god created us here and allows us to suffer to build us into virtuous creatures? That means he can't find another way to accomplish that goal, which, by definition, means he is NOT all powerful

I hope there are animals in heaven. Will the rapture take animals too? I wouldn't want my cats to be left behind. Some people say that in case of rapture can I have your rolls Royce?😅

Great video . I struggle with this greatly. Like you said if God stopped every bad deed he would be overbearing God, but we see him interfering all the time in the Bible. Like he stopped Daniel from being eating by lions, saved the Israelites from pharaoh, but some kid about to be raped or the genocidal things you mentioned he just didn't wanna be overbearing. That's hard to swallow. Also little children getting killed or severely injured in natural disasters needed to repent, because natural disasters are God's way of bringing the world to repentance. I don't agree that is the reason. That's the same logic as if I get cancer or something it's God punishing me for being bad .

An all-good, all-knowing and all-POWERFUL "God" could easily have simply created the perfect happy eternity from the beginning. Nothing inthis video excuses "God" for not doing that.

This was a long awaited video.

When you are saved, the pain is meaninful, but if you are not, the suffering only a curse. The reply can only apply to the saved but not to most of people. This is one of the basic flaw of the Christian doctrines. There are more issues to this topic, and the answers here only be part of them. Worth lots of debates.

Perfect… just beautiful… thanks! ❤

Fantastic video! Love the law of triumph theodicy.

34:32 "... because there is something good about life that the existence of suffering can never overtake." And thus the Law of Triumph is caused by God, through Jesus, on the cross and through Jesus' resurrection. Therefore, we can always conclude that it is by the grace of God that we are saved, and this triumph always came from God's action, not ours.

Without suffering, I would not have found God and been saved. I do not think God caused, or put me trough suffering. But I belive he helped me make the best of what I faced. But I also belive he needed my acceptance to do so.

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:01 🌍 *People often leave Christianity due to the problem of suffering, questioning how a loving God allows it.* 03:38 🌌 *Christianity asserts an afterlife, so judging it requires acknowledging suffering's temporary nature and the eternal perspective.* 10:12 🍎 *The fallen state of humanity, choosing self-rule in Eden, is central to understanding natural evils and suffering in the world.* 13:12 💡 *Suffering itself isn't inherently evil; it can be instrumentally good for character development and soul building.* 14:35 ⚖️ *The argument from suffering assumes utilitarian constraints on God, but Christianity suggests moral goodness is tied to promoting virtues.* 19:44 🏆 *Introducing the "Law of Triumph," positing that suffering can be turned into a greater good through a process of soul building and virtue.* 22:21 📜 *Scripture implicitly teaches the Law of Triumph, suggesting suffering, when embraced in seeking God, leads to a triumphant end and eternal glory.* 26:49 🌍 *Suffering, as part of a world evolving on its own, contributes to the creation of unique and virtuous souls.* 28:01 🤔 *The soul-making theodicy argues that the specific suffering in the world is necessary for building great souls with virtues, and it surpasses the "billionaire analogy."* 29:28 🌱 *The concept of "triumph" suggests that suffering is turned into instrumental good for soul-building, akin to a parent allowing a child to face challenges for personal growth.* 32:01 🦌 *The intrinsic goodness of life may outweigh the intrinsic badness of suffering, illustrated by the dilemma of preventing animal suffering at the expense of the beauty and goodness of life.* 35:17 🌈 *Animals, on a Christian worldview, might experience an afterlife, participating in the soul-building process, and the end goal is their glorification alongside humans.* 38:20 🕊️ *Animals, capable of developing identity, could continue to evolve after death, participating in the ongoing process of soul-building.* 39:48 🤝 *In Christianity, God unites with human suffering, and the central tenet is that God, in the form of Jesus, experienced and shared in human suffering, challenging theodicy in the face of torture and murder.*

I really love this perspective about animals, never heard of it before and its definitely fascinating

Thinking about God and His ways of work is really mind-blowing and beyond comprehension... Thank you for the video! It's really profound and thought-provoking. Your videos are indeed inspiring-philosophy!

This has to be one of your greatest videos yet! The depth here is amazing! I genuinely thank you for this video, as it's very comprehensive, enlightening, and hope filled! If I may ask, what are the top three-five books you recommend on the topic?

wow, you spent alot of time and effort on this! This is amazing! very good editing and very very good information! God bless you brother !

The dream analogy reminds me a lot of the Spanish play from the 1600s "Life is a Dream." By Pedro Calderón de la Barca. I highly recommend this work for any Christian. English translation can be read online for free.

5:05 the intent here was to be logical yet the only way to logically ensure any goodness is to presuppose that eternity is real. Something which cannot be known on this side of it. Further, should the soul be sentenced to eternal punishment, then all the “temporary” pain just makes an appetizer out of suffering. You think it’s bad now wait until you suffer FOREVER.

This is epic content

This was absolutely incredible. Thank you so much for this.

Atheist: God allows evil and suffering, how can he be any more evil than that? Calvinists: Hold my beer!

Great presentation! This is some high level thinking alongside educational visuals, really this is worth more than any college course on philosophy.

Amazing and really informative video. Absolutely loved it

I want to shed happy tears after watching this video. Thank you, Michael Jones.

So good! Yet, I don’t understand how libertarian freedom requires macro-evolution to be true for God to give it. On other things...that little dude practicing Muay Thai was awesome

“I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” Mark Twain

I often wonder if mind-at-large experiences our joys and sufferings, since our minds are processes running inside mind-at-large (which is obviously God). I believe He does. I believe every sorrow, every tear, every wound, every thirst, every hunger, every last sigh, is an experience God can relate to, even before He experienced it in flesh in the person of Jesus, but specially after He did. How could we point our fingers at Him for our suffering, when He went through the cross? And went through it for our sake? We could not... all glory be to Him.

God bless you IP

Think of a child who has suffered rape. Think of the death of a loved one, cut down before old age. Think of all the wars that have ever been. That is the result of sin. All the hatred, cruelty, and disease in the world are daily reminders of how much we need him.

On Dream: Dreams are amazing. Im lucky where I do dream quite frequently. There's a weird effect where if awaken in middle of the night, chances are much higher we dream more. I used to set an alarm to do this, and it absolutely does. I've had life changing dreams. They help direct me. He mentioned we are confused in dreams. Sometimes, but I think there's something like "fake memories" we have in dreams for the dream to take place. Otherwise itd be always confusion and/or chaotic. Lastly, it seems consuming alcohol or weed for some strange reason, greatly reduces or even blocks out dreams.

Comment Section Athiest: " Let's see, I could watch the whole video and carefully examine all of this man's viewpoints in order to get a grasp of his argument and then respond respectfully to those points if I don't agree with them. However, what I think I'll do instead is stop five minutes in and write a short hateful comment insulting the man's intelligence and faith, writing something like, ' God isn't real lol.' or, ' You're full of crap.' This will definitely show that I'm more rational and intelligent than this silly Christian and will definitely not show that I'm some angry, arrogant child who's mad at Christianity because my mom forced me to go to church one Sunday."

Blessed are those who mourn for they shall be comforted - Matthew 5:4. To all of you who mourn i will pray for you, i lost my cousin back in 2019, she was stillborn, but she is with The Lord our God and i take comfort in that. Glory to Jesus, Glory to our King!

Assume that there’s an afterlife, then assume that Adam and Eve really did happen, then assume that pain in and of itself isn’t bad if there’s a “good” reason for it, then assume that good isn’t what we think but what God thinks, then the atheists stupid argument from suffering really does seem to fall apart, doesn’t it? Christianity isn’t a thing that’s supposed to work on real world logic but on its own inner logic. Basically, *it* works only if you consider *its* worldview which states that *it* works.

Suffering is part of our choice through rejection of God. When we accept him and Christ as our personal Lord and Savior, we are freed from suffering. Yes, we will endure trials and tribulations, but what is a small amount of earthly pain compared to eternity in the presence of God? For me, nothing on this earth will ever be enough to sway me from that eternal promise.