The Problem with the Craftsmanship Skill in State of Decay 2! 

There are some side benefits not covered in this video like... building more arrows with craftsmanship or gaining 1 more labor. I didn't cover some of these features because... they're extreme side benefits that you'd never choose the skill for, and if the core skills aren't worthwhile, then the side effects aren't worthwhile.

Who needs craftsmanship when we have *ANIMAL FACTS*

yeah, I use the X3 repeating crossbow as go to weapon, so craftmanship is important, purely to make more arrows, otherwise it is a useless skill. If construction allowed you even to barricade the windows (like SOD1) or even better, remove permanent structures in the base so that you can build anything in the slots would make construction a valuable skill for all the different player styles out there.

Fox: who would use storage mods when there are such simple alternatives to your storage problems? Me: ha ha yeah, what idiot would waste mod slots like that? "looks back and forth nervously at my garden and bunk room with 2 ammo case mods"

As much time as you have put into SOD I would consider you a subject matter expert... Hopefully Undead will listen to your ideas..

Plot twist: Fox is a employee at undead lads and is working on Sod3 with these ideas

I alway thought it would have been neat if you could barter services for influence. Like what if you could help the other communities build up their bases as quests for influence. I always thought it was dumb that none of the enclaves built up their bases or recruited new people.

Construction improvement: it allows to get an extra slot in the base to construct one more facility. In some bases its a small slot, in others a big slot.

what craftsmanship is in SoD2 was more like a really rare trait in SoD1 (construction) and it was not bad at all in SoD1 for how rare it was not only it reduces the time to build something, in SoD1 whenever you build or did something within a facility, there was a chance that something went wrong (acording to Lilly) that meant, you have to go looting for an item, which will not appear in your storage or rucksack, because otherwise it will take quiet some time to get it done. with the construction you get a radio call, which basically canceld the looting. another good function they could add to Craftsmanship, the ability to customize weapons, like the cars (more durability, bigger magazine, stabilizing the weapon, add a scope to weapons without or upgrade álready build in) One thing i really wished they would finally add to the game would be a call-in option like you can do it for red talon soldiers and operators, but for the people in you Survivor Pool (those you keep after finishing the campaign)

Been saying this for a long time. Construction needs to give you the ability to build extras on to your base even if they only have a temp use and then you need to make them again. Example - Spikes to go along the walls of your base to help with zombie attacks.

We should be allowed to craft bounty weapons at the forge once we unlock them.

Engineering should be waaaaaaay better, if someone can make a highend sound suppressor from raw materials and machine tools, then simply slapping an optic on a picatinny rail, tightening some screws, throwing it in a vice and turning some dials so that the hole in the target matches the dot or crosshair is a non-issue. And honestly red dot sightings are the closest thing in real life to the snap ability, so any gun with a red dot should have the snap ability. The engineering skill should definitely be used to install sights and then you could have flip over magnifyer so that you have snap ability and zoom, and then improving shooting skills increases the number of snaps you can use. I honestly only train people to use gunslinger because of the snap, and I don’t even like any of the other shooting skills. My builds always go in guns ablazining with .22 because I always have an ammo press, any caliber other than .22 is using scavened ammo until it runs out and then it gets sold off first chance I get. The sustainability is the fun part of these games. I also think that you should be able to carry 99 .22lr rounds per inventory slot because when you think about it you can carry 99 “parts” which is represented by an icon of nuts and bolts, and if you can carry 99 of those then 99 .22 rounds wouldn’t take up much more space. Also, the freaking .50 should one shot a juggernaut. There isn’t enough skull thickness in the human head to just tank that kind of punishment. It what universe can something that reliably punches through 1/2 steel plate not punch through 1/4 inch of bone which is partially decayed?

Your right buddy, almost the only time I have a character with the craftsmanship skill is when I have a character with the Sewing 5th skill

I still like the idea of an armor plate too. It could be made at the forge and consume an item slot on the character using it, but it provides protection. A little bit of protection against zombies, but maybe a good bit against firearms, for combating other survivors.

Fox is absolutely right. Undead Labs keeps adding conveniences and catering to the inabilities of players who cannot be bothered to read a line of instructions to the point where the game is less than challenging, even nightmare zone seems to be a lesser challenge than before. I feel Sod 3 needs a different direction/management.

They need to fix acrobatics as well, the ‘upgraded’ roll is much worse than the standard dodge.

I love your videos man, keep up the good work

I just downloaded this for the first time and im loving it, thanks for all the cascade hills videos

Honestly, the only thing I would use craftsmanship for(as it is now) is increased crossbow bolt production but even then it's undermined by Sewing(which can be purchased via rare skill book) which gives you craftsmanship, additional health, and additional consumable stacks.

One function that I use frequently with Craftmanship: Convert Part to Material, yeah, that's the thing CNC cannot do at all There're times when Material are needed and I'm very lazy to look for such heavy rushsack of Material that are sometime hard to find, especially if I don't have a trade depot. So what do I do, yeah, build a Forge, and convert the part, it's easy to look for junk weapon, salvage them into part then turn them to material. And if your base are very limited in space, you need to build rebuild a lot when you need something, I'm do in regular basis to replacing the slot if there're something short. Like replace a till when you need fuel, replace kitchen if you want to craft food etc... so to me the final base is really rare cause I want to switch back and forth a lot, and that take material Not to mention with bigger base you will need more material to do maintenance. it's stress to just get them from looting alone so a stable income is needed.

Total agree with you I had couple idea for crafting/construction/metal work and the forge. Crafting: you be able to unlock the ability to make all produce in the game along side other skill I.e metal work for weapons/ medicine and gardening to make medicine/strong medicine. Or like you said add blue prints in the game to purchase from bounty broker. You could make that extra feature to the bounty broker the only place to buy or get rewarded blueprints, however I would add some extra to it you can find/get rewarded blue prints in the open world that can then be purchased from the bounty broker. Construction: should unlock all types of mods when combine with other skills like electronics/computer/gardening etc. You said about the skill to add mod slots to facilities that don't, what if you expand on that and add second slot to facilities however you put a large build time in place to build that extra slot I.e 2 in game days. Watch tower/sniper towers and built in version, like you said about these skills to build better defenses, you can use those facilities to do that adding extra mod slots to put your ideas about barbed wire , spike floor and armoured doors. I would also add extra shooting platforms around the wall. Metal work/forge like said above things should be unlock from blue prints and skills. So when you build forge/workshop you can make every item in the game weapons/mods. They should add tears to the forge so that in higher tears it would produce day random weapons/ building resources and mods.

Awesome ideas! Very well thought out. More in-depth mechanics and gameplay. I love the base defense ideas. That’s one thing I’ve really wanted.

We should be able to craft @all@ the things! But seriously, I like your ideas. Would be great to be able to scrap a car, so you get a real benefit from going out and bringing back cars.

I had a few ideas for construction along the lines of what you were going for but you took it and ran all the way home with it. Bravo man bravo

Git Gud Fox... you are definitely correct that "Construction" skill is currently bastarized, and not really worth anything once you have your base established. They really need to improve it or expand or, or even consolidate it with another relatively useless skills, so combine 2 or 3 skills into 1 valuable skill. Also 100% agree - would LOVE to be able to further upgrade & improve bases and base defenses. Would also LOVE if they created a map or base where we could build the ultimate end-game base, that has 6 large slots, 6 small exterior slots, 6 small interior slots, & 6 parking spots... with fully intact perimeter defense.

Great insightful episode chock full of excellent ideas. Loved them all. Comments about the game reinforced why I love playing it, for the base building and selecting the best skills for the way I play. Good job.

I'm loving the fact that you put time into paying attention to the faults and the advantages of this stuff however ignoring the size of the channel I dont think it will be ever changed since S.o.d 3 is on its way next year now.

Really cool ideas. I especially like the car stripping and base fence ideas. And what you said about the barbed wire also made me think of "basic traps" for defence in general. Maybe too big of an overhaul, but at least in SoD 3 it would be nice if there were a couple of places (or slots, or however that'll work) on the outside of your base for basic traps like 'makeshift spikes' etc. Nothing that trivializes sieges TOO much (say, doesn't do damage to Juggs and Ferals can easily get around them, since they are much more nimble). Could also be tied to construction and would add some flair, realism and further customization to bases. The way bases have these gaping holes in their security right now that apparently no one thinks to plug up is just not very realistic and as you said, you can still make all of these "not perfect". Too many bodies on the spikes = they are now useless and only funnel the enemies along to the sides of the trap, or even allow them climb over and scale the wall there now and so on. Technically, if done right, this could even make it more viable to play a smaller group in a smaller base (for roleplay, or to keep down resource consumption at the trade off of more risk / less bodies). All of these base ideas would even couple well with a more difficult healing system that actually makes you evaluate the risks of throwing yourself in direct combat, too.

The best reason for Craftsmanship is if you need Barracks level 2. Getting 6 beds from one building slot can be pretty important with certain bases. Especially if you're not using builder legacy and you have 5 outposts used up on power/water/fuel.

I almost feel the same way about Utilities. Yes it’s noice to build hydroponics, but similar to construction, once its built you don’t need it anymore. Not to mention that plumbing and electrical are completely negated by the builder legacy and there is no shortage of moral boosting facilities . No need for a latrine/still

I agree with all your criticisms except for one. While storing extra resources in a van is a viable gameplay method, it's also one that takes time. As a person with limited time to play video games, extra base storage for resources is something that reduces my need to keep track of and run back and forth from vehicles used for storage. Considering UL just increased base resource storage space across the board, it's strange they didn't do anything for Construction to make it more worthwhile.

I love the ideas you present. My favorite idea is in regards to vehicles. Normally you only drive one vehicle and use one or two for storage. Chopping them for mods would be fantastic and get rid of the 5 to 10 useless vehicles scattered throughout most maps. Adding a camper to a truck for extra storage would be outstanding. Since cosmetics seem to be a really big deal for a large amount of people why not add an ability to paint ANY vehicle ANY color with an auto shop? The existing solution to the bad Construction skill is the Fortifications 5th skill. Fortifications with the Hero Bonus"Careful Demolition" equals +3 mats and -2 zombie threat. These skills combined with a workshop and Red Talon Watchtower equals +4 mats and a -8 zombie threat. Keep up the great work and enjoy all of the SOD3 musings.

I feel that sod vids get more views then other vids

As info. You can store rucksacks in your locker instead of cars. Go to an enclave and trade with them. Hover over you equipped rucksack and you will have an option to unequip it into your inventory. If you have alot in your cars, enlist an enclave follower and bring him back to your base to trade to your inventory.

Yeah I had a construction character in my base for a while who really didnt offer much, I replaced him with a character with the Scrum skill and I got so much more out of him.

Dude you have some AMAZING ideas! Subscribed based on all the plot holes in the game. So articulated, I love most to these ideas

I agree with you about craftsmanship. The rest I have been thinking on the same lines especially a travelling expert on the lines of the mysterious trader, or, even an enclave specialising in building/architect etc. Security is another subject. I have even done a website with these on there and posted the link to Joe S, undead jawa. Website is now down as I am fed up with ul tinkering around the edges without doing anything. With you, you speak the truth in a stragt manner, no beating about the bush. Brilliant.

Free Building. Its the MOST IMPORTANT aspect for SOD3 ... If you have virtually unlimited space & room for growing a bigger community, denying people based on more trivial skills like cooking wouldn't happen because you can always explore building a new space for that person. This goes for things like projectors, training areas, etc. as well. You don't have to constantly be limited to what the game allows. Its more your own capacity & creativity to make the community work after becoming so large. Great video, I know this is 4 months behind lol

a character with this skill have no chance to get in my community. i missed my daily SOD2-Talk :-) UDL is going in wrong direction for a long time, they have a new fan-base, snowflake-players who wants a lot of cosmetics and an "i-win-button".

I actually prefer having engineering skill first than automechanics cause it allows me to craft professional weapon attachments and other stuff especially having a warlord as a leader. Then i can demote that leader and try to upgrade all of my vehicles

Yep the new SOD 2 trailer looks great, I just hope it retains the core strategy and management elements. I think more of the fifth skills should be communal benefits.

Bases while making the game what it is, should be bigger part of it... I feel like customization is sacrificed for quote unquote game balance. Your whole concept of an evolution to the base over time is spot on and most of your ideas are in the game currently.

they should hire you as a consultant for game balance for the sequel IMHO I love SOD franchise and the dev team but I 100% agree with all of your critical feedback

I think another issue is that there's a hard cap on survivors you can bring in. So naturally we are excluding some fifth skills from the "meta." Craftsmanship isn't even in the top 15 skills and the hard cap is 9 with 12 being possible if you abuse the recruitment system.... lol

While we are wishing on a star how about giving construction the ability to upgrade bases? Add on a stairwell to the barricaded strip mall that allows you to add 2 or 3 more small facilities.

Personally I think they need to rework this skill tree. To get it more interesting I think devs should change requirements to build stuff. In order to upgrade any building you need a craftsman, like you can bee best surgeon in country but without required skills you won't build anything good. For construction specialization I suggest remove the upkeep of all buidings as a specialist will work on keeping it in working order and maby improving home defense (like adding more barbwires). Also it can work in tandem with Electrician specialization to make barbwire and parts of the fence electrical (to fend off weaker zombies). In recent update devs can add an option for crafters/constructors to fortify your outposts so they will have sige defence option (like for other communities) or make them unclameble for zombies. As for Metalworking we can transfer all the car armour and car repair kits to theam (as they are the toolmakers) and let the car mechanics to slowly autorepair parked cars and upgrade cars in autoshop.

I think the base defense ideas sound great. What seems more important is that devs sort the pc optimization issues over anything else first.

Love ur vids, helped me a ton. And ABSOLUTELY YES on every idea u stated. I can also imagine a dumbed down version of Fallouts base building, but like u said, attached to, or blocked behind those 5th skills. They could have some really badass base invasions with those beefed up walls, and/or traps etc.

Normally I’m not really on the same page as you with some of your ideas but you definitely hit the nail on the head with this one ( pun intended). I feel like a lot of the older mechanics of the game are kinda getting lost in all the updates they are doing. Like some of the Cleo weapon mods, one I liked was the tumbler cuz it made the .22 do a bit better damage and didn’t make more noise but now that they buffed all the breaks I feel like there’s no point to the Cleo weaponry.

Craftsmen negating materials cost would be a brilliant way to improve it. The gunsmith combo is also a fantastic idea as I currently only make it 6 days in NM due to lack of firepower vs. A random Jugg at my backyard.

Since the original game I've always wanted the ability to remove obstacles from the road. Maybe if you possess a tow truck ability or have someone with a demolition skill? Would also be nice to be able to build ramps and even small bridges to cross terrain that otherwise you have to go around.

I believe metalworking should be more focused around weapon passive effects. Like when hitting max metalworking you’re weapons have a honed edge or are heavier and do more damage. It would also be cool to see a daily parts inflow without any costs. Maybe like 20-50 parts a day for free with someone with metalworking. They also need to buff a lot of the weapons in the forge, the rebar blade is good but any others are kinda meh. So I think they should just make these weapons better or add entirely new weapons with unique effects.

I wouldn't say it's terrible, but it is definitely situational. I literally just started a brand new nightmare Zone prior to this video and I made myself take craftsmanship because I needed the barracks 2 because I don't have any computers skill or mods for outposts for beds, so in some situations, that skill can really come in handy

Wow, I got a new video already. I feel like a member of the community already.

Like the idea of the car chopper the most. One thing I’m disappointed about is with the car upgrades. Some look so bad ass with the spikes or big plow in the front. I wish they were actually useable. I wish the plow would knock non freaks out of the way and the spikes would impair zombies when they try jumping on the vehicle. I get that cosmetics are important, I def appreciate them, but some functionality would be dope also. The new pirate outfit we got also, why not give a bonus when using swords or something. Idk just more ideas

In a nutshell, construction makes you the god of storage. Still pretty useless lol.

Good facility upgrade ideas. I’m tired of “new” weapons.

The only time where Craftsmanship is worth its place is on a Red Talon toon, where it also comes with +2 material/day and -2 threat (equal to a lvl 2 watchtower)

Build Turrets :) Move facilities. You talk about which slot you use for watch towers and sniper towers based on the view. So if you could move buildings so you get a stronger unobstructed view. The base in heartland is set up so you can climb to the roof of the building and the dinosaur beside the building. What if your craftsman could build connecting bridges so you could go from your tower to the tops of other buildings in your base. I used to think the zedbuster was the best anti-feral vehicle in the game because ferals would jump on the wrong part of the vehicle and disintegrate. The impaler is even better. If you could throw on spikes to other vehicles that would be cool. Add trunk slots. Throw a canopy on the pick up trucks to stop AI characters from hopping in the back...

Also wanna add maybe communications as a skill, maybe we are able to join the network, red talon, military etc. or allow us to recruit ppl from those factions for a shit done of influence or something. There’s so much more they can add and so much depth they can include. I pray they do. The blue print is here, wish they’d just go all in!

Your ideas for the skills were amazing. How have you not been hired by Undead Labs yet

I think they should make a system where you can change the 5th skill for a hefty cost. Though that isn't exactly fixing the problems, it at least allows the players to escape them. I can't tell you how much I hate getting a great survivor just to see a skill that I either already have or don't want! God damnit Sexting, craftsmanship, and most of all those dang partial skills!! Why are those 3 out of 7 skills even a thing??!

I a hundred percent agree there such be some underlying skills to the certain 5th skills. I love your videos and why Undead Labs hasn't hired you yet to just make the game better that's already a good game but to make it better than it already is.

I would love to see a video on what you consider to be the god tier 5th skills that you never go without.

I agree 200%! Also, on a side tangent, they ought to include clan affiliation more! Trade with The Network OR Red Talon! Benefits and Consequences! (How about that "computer" guy being useless after Lvl 3 ? How useful are drone strikes?)

It would also be cool to be able to build generic mod slots in allied settlements. Or maybe even going as far as building small facilities to eventually make an entirely self sustaining community. And to add a point about vehicle customization; even if they couldn’t make it as in depth as you’re suggesting, it would be cool if you could have either the option to put better armor on vehicles(like currently) or sacrifice the extra armor for some spikes or other offensive capabilities in order to be able to actually slam into juggs and do serious damage. I would love to have some crazy mad max cars with dead zombies impaled all over them.

I recommended a while ago expandable base borders where you can upgrade the size of the base by expanding its territory or making sub territories around your base and maybe it gives you more base slots for things

And if UL just 'doesn't have the manpower' for some of your very nice ideas, at the VERY least, as you said, if craftsmanship could delete or half the material upkeep cost, that would INSTANTLY make it not a throwaway skill. Having a community member who acts as a staging area is a game changer for the construction skill. Moreover, maxed out construction skill should offer the ability to create level 3 sheltered beds, giving 4 beds and a mod slot in a small facility slot but without the morale penalty of the Red Talon barracks. The art team for UL are already cranking out graphics for new weapons, just put up a couple of bunk beds with some set dressing and boom, there you go, level 3 sheltered beds. As for the forge, if the team can't 'afford' to create any new game mechanics, at LEAST have the forge passively generate parts or half the part cost for all part-consuming actions. Need to make some ammo? The part cost is now negligible, and it makes SENSE. If you have a forge, you could make shell casings out of practically any common metal if you had to, and since you brought up the Bounty Broker, here's my idea to add onto yours that would be less labor intensive for the dev team: Sacrifice any weapon to the forge and you can "Reverse Engineer" it so it can then be created at the forge, so if you have lots of materials and parts but not a lot of influence, you can make a bunch of Bounty Broker weapons and outfit your community with the good stuff. UL definitely had one idea of how to make the game and it ended up being something different than what they thought, but it's not too late to fix it.

Imagine if craftsman forging armor for your character? Like the mechanic armors the vehicle. Or armor your base. Spikes. Something.

The things you've talked when the you compared SoD with others zombie games, you really understand the game. In SoD twitter, there are people asking for pvp and even battle royale in SoD 3. These people are crazy, SoD is about survive the apocalypse...

Soundproofing should be an aspect of craftsmanship and also reinforcing the base doors or fence like you said or create barbed fence to damage zombies over time.

Spot on. I actually don't think i ever recruited anyone with a Construction skill. Not sure if i have one in my pool either.

I personally think that youd do well as a game developer You seem to know what your doing And you come up with some awesome ideas. All of these ideas are things that sound like they would be awesome as hell in State of Decay

I like the gunsmithing idea but I think it be cool if it let you mod/upgrade the weapon for example make and ar into the raider version or the 1911 into the full auto version. Most of the those weapons descriptions already mention how crudely modded the weapons are

I used to thought Construction would be somewhat important because like you said, someone with a knowledge of repairing, maintaining, and building a structure going to be somewhat important in a world left in ruins and you're going to rebuild it. Metalworking is ok-ish for Mastercraft weapons but it been render obsolete when UL introduced the nonsensical Bounty weapons. I can't believe many advanced facilities don't even require a knowledge of Construction. Tier 3 facilities should require Construction instead. You just can't fully utilize tier 3 facility without a specific knowledge. And maybe, Construction should give a discount on daily upkeep since you have a guy know how to maintain your stuff now.

The only thing it would be cool for is if you have 100 fuel storage you can get it to a point where you are gaining more fuel then you spend a day and therefore you can be that town or maps fuel supplier much like there are the alcahol Stiller's or doctor groups

Yeah you are right i never realized ive never ever chosen someone who has craftmanship

Very well thought out ideas. Undead Labs should hire you

This is the kind of suggestions I wish the modding scene was full of, rather than mods like "no plague juggs" and "player invincibility" with the occasional good overhaul.

I was hoping just for smarter ai for the zombies. But damn your right only time i really car about craftmenship is when im playing dread zone.

The problem with the management layer in state of decay is that it doesn't matter at all. I've spent a lot of time theorizing and min-maxing in this game, but at the end of the day it really really really doesn't matter what you choose.

I like the idea of needing construction to modify bases in any significant way. Any ol putz can drag a Bowflex into a room and call it a home gym or line up some bottles and call it a shooting range, but to build kitchens or workshops or upgrade basic planters into a multi-tiered garden paradise with a veranda? That takes skill. If I had my way with more active enemy enclaves raiding the base and outposts, the Craftsmanship goobers would be very helpful with repairing damaged walls and equipment. I never use a Forge. The weapons are lame but I'm okay with that. In my experience, weapons made at someone's home hobby forge don't hold up as well as a knife made by professionals with professional equipment. I understand that some artisan weapon engineers can do better than mass produced alternatives, but they're so rare that I wouldn't expect to find one in an apocalypse, especially if the forge was built by a random collection of putzes with a duffel full of duct tape. If weapons were scarce in the game the forge would make more sense, but I'm content with the Workshop add-ons. The closest thing I'd take for any kind of weapon smith would be adding nails or barbed wires to bats. Any kind of buff to weapons could be done at the workshop. I'm also a fan of removing the Staging Area and having a Construction worker passively speeding up base building and reducing the cost of materials and parts used by base features. Personality traits like "OCD" or "highly organized" can increase storage space by virtue of some people organizing oft-used materials so that they don't get lost, stolen, or wasted. Part of upgrading your base's clinic, for example, involves unpacking medical supplies and making them readily available. Having loads of sutures, saline, and pressure bandages doesn't mean anything if they're in a box that is under two other boxes somewhere in storage. Space for medical supplies should increase as the clinic is upgraded with new shelving units. I do like the mini fridge add-on that improves with power, assuming you don't have a better add-on. Hopefully SoD3's snow/weather mechanic requires more fuel to keep the base warm. That might make larger storage capacities more relevant in an effort to stock up for the winter. A game mechanic that I think could be spread to all of the professions are bonuses to profession-related weapons. Craftsmen should get Ease of Use and Durability bonuses to claw and sledge hammers. Carrying those weapons shouldn't impose the normal weight/encumbrance penalties because they're so comfortable with those tools. The same could be said for the kitchen knife and cleaver for those with the Cooking skill and wrenches and screwdrivers for those with the Utilities skill.

I always enjoyed fortifying my outposts in the original game. It would require too much work to implement, but I would like it if Construction allowed fortifying outposts and Engineering allowed us to trap them (similar to the original game).

All these ideas sound like a lotta work, but the work would be worthwhile in the end

Awesome job! Love these ideas

What do y'all think of the scouting skill now that the update allows you to see all of the loot in the houses much easier??

I love how there was so little video to show off craftsmanship that fox had to move on to showing Dead Island

I agree about the gunsmithing part, and maybe you could find gun blueprints in gun shops maybe.

This is the same attitude I have towards influence. There is no point is saving it. If you don't spend it, it's worthless. Buy outposts, buy bases, buy supplies, buy community members. Resources are valuable BECAUSE they are USEFUL, so find a use for them.

Git Gud Fox. As always, I appreciate your deep down analysis of State of Decay 2. It’s not something many RU-vidrs do with video games. I am curious, If you are experiencing a lot of game breaking bugs since the last update? If so, what are your thoughts on how the game has become increasingly more buggy? I only say this because I have had so many game breaking bugs in may main community. For example, I received a mission were the bounty broker asked to join my community. I declined, yet he still showed up in a leopard suit like a boss and joined anyways. He is invincible and cannot be exiled. Also, I went to complete the last mission for the trader legacy and the enemy attacking enclave ran the opposite direction. When I followed, the game stated “leaving mission area.” Game is almost unplayable and I am on Xbox.

So true! I agree wholly! just noticed this video was 2 years old. Did undead labs ever did anything to the forge or 5th skill traits?

I hope devs are taking notes for state of decay 3

Yeah I never understood why they gave us a base with that amount of fuel storage. It makes no sense. I would have liked an outpost that was a garage where you could store your vehicles. That's the storage that we needed.

You got some great ideas. If undead labs doesn’t get to implement them,it could be some damn good mod ideas

Is it too weird to say I like your voice? You just have a good voice for video discussions like this, and honestly I just think your voice is really cool Again, not trying to be weird 😂

I was just thinking with a finite number of community members 9 is it? I would rather have 2 members with chemistry or medicine then 1 with craftsmanship. So then I'm thinking what if craftsmanship allowed you to expand your community because they're making more space and then SOUNDPROOFING. Why in the hell isn't soundproofing or zombie threat reduction tied in to craftsmanship or engineering or construction. Hell zombie threat reduction all by itself could make this an awesome 5th skill

For all of the reasons you stated, Craftsmanship is bad. I won't auto disqualify someone if they have it, so long as I have my main bases covered. I don't mind craftsmanship being bad, but I would like the forge to make better weapons also for the reasons you stated. I think it's probably extremely hard to balance a game like this, and more hardcore players like you and I can get pretty annoyed that it isn't exactly the game we want... but it's also pretty damn close to the game we want.

Its amazing to me. I really enjoy this game, but while playing it, I always have this underlying feeling that they could have done more. My feelings are usually selfish though? Like, I wish I could build more outposts/expand my base more, but I know the game isn't really balanced for that (I just want something to look forward to after I've moved into my "final" base)

Fox started preaching! UL you better be listening!

I agree with all of that, undead labs should hit you up for sod3