The Problem with the Ten Commandments - Bible & Archaeology - July 5, 2024 

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Agreed, Commandments of the Jungle much more preferable.

Only if you are brought up a fundie. Both fundies and atheists are dumb enough to think the bible is only literally

I agree completely that's how I became an atheist I was willing to die from my fundamentalist Christianity for 40 years but I never really went to church and didn't really know what was in the Bible Then after I moved to Oklahoma because it was more Christian and more conservative I wanted to get my kid in church before she became a teenager and we went to a free will Baptist Church for three years religiously (and they read all of the Bible they don't cherry pick) and I didn't realize 90% of that stuff was in there... and it led to lots of questions so I questioned my pastor and two other pastors in town and they couldn't give me sufficient answers which led me to a three year and well over 2000 hours of deep study of nothing but scholars from fundamentalist scholars to secular scholars And now there is no going back I know it's in the Bible , so I am always recommending people read all of their Bible

@@CommonSense_Skeptic you may no longer be a Christian but you are still a fundamentalist

I'm a living example of that. Time in the ministry, two degrees in biblical studies - the more I studied, the more the fatal problems piled up until I reached a breaking point. That was 34 years ago, and I've never looked back. Happy and free from Iron Age religion.

@@tombrower6544 where did you study? Was it a fundamentalist institution?

Which is what the First Commandment would do.

I'm glad you brought up your penal code example because that is a perfect comparison. If you were to look up the laws where you are for the use of force to figure out what you can get away with if someone breaks into your house and go by just what you read in what lawyers call the black letter law, without the necessary education to know the legal definition of certain words and without knowing case law on the subject, you're likely going to end up in prison. That's why the Oral Torah exists. The sages and Rabbis throughout the centuries knew that you can't possibly make sense of the Written Torah by itself without some way to sort out things that are unclear or contradictory. The notion that one can read and understand the Bible by itself, without any outside guidance, is a largely modern and completely mistaken protestant Christian one.

The human laws came from the Bible. Took christians hundreds of years to teach that commandment Alon. It didn't work and doesn't work in a "survival of the fittest " world but it became popular. No other gods before me. dictators, politicians, idols.......go against God to play one themselves

@@us3rG No, no, no, no. The Egyptians have law codes since around 3000 B.C.E. This is a full 1800 years before the Bible. King Hammurabi wrote his law code in stone some 600 years before the Bible. And different types of punishment for the individuals that hurt their group might have existed since before the Homo Sapiens appeared. You are about 100 years obsolete in your knowledge of evolution. Survival of the fittest individuals in a group is only a tiny bit of evolution. Survival of the fittest GROUPS is the real motor behind evolution. For example, the fittest individuals of every group of gregarious animals is in charge of protecting the group, and this means that the fittest individuals have less chance of surviving than the weak individuals that are permanently being protected. If you see a stampede of bison, for example, the weak females and calves are at the center, while the strong males are fighting off the predators at the edges of the pack. Also, we have evidence of old and disabled humans from 200,000 years ago or so who lived long enough to have their bones completely damaged. This can only happen if the weak are cared enough to survive while the strong do the dangerous jobs.

​@@us3rG how can you declare that human law came from the Bible. Didn't the Egyptians have a law against murder before Moses received the ten commandments. Isn't Moses' violation of that law one of the reasons that he fled Egypt?

@@davispatricks5453 Egyptian laws, that wasn't universal. Also even in Egypt it didn't apply to everyone

And that is where the names of demons and devils come from, other people's gods. Yaweh was part of a greater pantheon which included El. But yeah. Seems to be a recurring theme to demonize others and what they do as a core feature of a religion.

You could argue that it’s both. We single out this to show the cruelty of the Dionysian cult.

​@@samb55I have a great book on the cult of dionysus. A completely whacky crazy 'religion'. But very popular. I think they wanted to prevent the cult of dionysus from infecting the jewish faith.

You are CORRECT. I have a book on that religion.

Yeah it cant be about animal cruelty since the Bible is full of that

Remember. The confusion is intentional and that is the point. If people can be stupified enough eventually they will just give up and surrender.

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What? Can you be even more ignorant? God of the Bible refers to himself as "I AM", which means eternal source of all reality. Do you really consider yourself smart by quoting Bible verse out of context to build a strawman argument? Your objections are at level of a 5 year old.

Yeah, they did cover "keeping the sabbath holy". They asked about whether buzzing out of church, skipping the social to start fighting over a table at "Applebees" or getting home right quick to see the game were really what was intended?

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@@henryschmit3340 Only the man is made in the image of God, though most men have besmirched that image

@@ralphowen3367 For sure, and to their detriment.

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How do you know? Oh wait. You don't. I hope you get famous someday when reality matches up to your fantasies.

So, not like the slaves that are moral to have?

Woohoo! I'm worth as much as your house.

Weird af

Any time!

@@kenveum6456 Christians are righteous just as Jesus is--I Jn. 5:7.

He didnt say that, read the foodnote of that story

The urge to impose that "narrow fundamentalism" onto others is the greater problem.

Read that outside a public school or any government institution

No, because you let someone else work when you go to Applebees. It’s explicitly stated that you should take care nobody works

No, if we followed the ten loads of shite we wouldnt have art, sculptures, women rights and children rights

@@bluewater9795 The Gentiles which have not the law often do by nature ( not by keeping the ten commands) what is contained in the law-- that is, the spirit of it-- Read Rom. 2.

And what 10 commandments are you talking about. A large part of the video was that there are no “10 commandments”. I wonder if you watched the video, or just start spreading your uninformed opinion.

Saturday's and Sundays are mostly rest days

@@us3rG What decade are you fantasizing you're in?

@@nsbd90now decade where people know mostly

@@us3rG When I was a child in the 1960s some stores would be closed on Sundays. But those days are long, long gone. Ridiculous to say weekends are "rest days" for any working person in 2024.

​@@nsbd90now How right you are. And it would be great if the Louisiana legislature was spending time passing bills that improve the material condition of the working class, instead of this silly virtue signaling bull which will not actually improve the quality of teaching and learning in public schools.

If you are concerned with skin you never knew Jesus

​@@us3rGsuper presumptuous of you to assert that someone does not know Jesus because they mention skin color in a comment. How does @markthompson180 statement tell you that they do not spend time with and commune regularly with Jesus. You cannot, from their statement tell whether or not this person believes that Jesus is Lord or tell if they believe that Jesus was risen from the dead. If they have done this then they have been accepted by Christ and you have the audacity to declare yourself the arbiter of whether or not someone has been received by Christ. Wow. Such hubris and pride.

​@@us3rG What's more, your attempt to make a person's political viewpoint or social commentary a measure of said person's spiritual status is the very reason why it is unwise to marry politics to religion.

@@davispatricks5453 nobody needs to know what Jesus looked like, nobody cares what any of them look like. Learn from what written and understand it, flesh means nothing. All these paints and statues are not even Biblical infact they are against the Bible. Orthodox does best with icons, they tell everything you need to know and little about physical bs. They also tend to be regional made by the people for the people, not international. In the commandments it states to have no image of God, yet the Catholics did and years letter it's reduced the true "image" of God , leading many away from "The man upstairs" They all have negative effect cause people like you focus on the wrong things. Your practically worshipping paintings.

@@davispatricks5453 nobody cares what Jesus look like, nobody cares what any of them look like. Study what is written and understand it. Paintings and sculptures are not even Biblical, they go against the commandments

The Book of the Dead (actually called the Book of Coming Forth By Day, by the way) was a collection of spells/rituals for ensuring a successful journey into the Egyptian afterlife. There is no definitive text of the Book of Coming Forth By Day, because the different social classes of the individual being buried meant that they would have a different afterlife, which logically meant that they required different spells/rituals for a successful journey into the afterlife. I can’t say if a specific part of the Hebrew Ten Words was part of a particular Book of Coming Forth By Day, because I haven’t read every version of every text. Regardless, it would be irrelevant if they did, as everything in the Ten Words is about living your life on Earth (remember, the Hebrew Bible doesn’t have an afterlife that is at all comparable with the Egyptian afterlife; the dead all go to Sheol & that’s it for the Hebrews) and everything in the Book of Coming Forth By Day is about living a successful afterlife and has nothing to do with one’s mortal life on Earth.

@@DneilB007 The 'Ten Commandments', attributed to the myth of 'Moses' were plagiarized from the Egyptian Pyramid Texts, also known as the Book of the Dead, which pre-date the 'Moses' myth by 2,500 years.

So you would be on the side of not putting them up in every school, right?

@@boogiesnookie7111 I am not sure what I would do. But people need to know that the Mosaic Law was not for the non- Jew, but for the Jew. Young are under the law of sin and death, but that consists of the Law of Moses and the law of nature. The latter is for the Gentiles. The problem is that those wanting the Decalogue displayed to the youth, likely do not understand fully what they are doing. Many Christians believe the law is still in force for them, which is a lie. Believers are under the law of Christ, and not O.T. law.

@@ralphowen3367 im not gonna read any of that and idgas about it, I just want religious shiet out of public schools

@@floptaxie68 Desperate situations (a complete abandonment of God and His ways In the school system) require desperate solutions ( the inclusion of God and His laws in the schools).

@@ralphowen3367 no, illegal

Yes it does. It is precisely designed to elicit covetous feelings and desires in people. And it works. Consumers want that new "must have" item.

Do you think pastors care about what the Bible meant in the time it was written? No, they read a book written by Jews in an unknown date, compiled by Catholics, around the 4th century, translated to Shakesperean English and apply that to a secular country founded in the 18th century with a 20th century point of view

God rested on Sabbath to set an example, not because God is tired.

@@us3rG that’s one reason

@@wafan13 we become slaves to that we spend all our time on, so we need a break, a day off. God isn't a slave to his creation, man shouldn't be either

@@us3rG yeah that’s another reason

I do what I fcking want to do with my weekend

I agree with your assessment on the motives of some in the Oklahoma legislature. However it is never a waste of time for Christians and non-christians to understand what Christians believe and why they believe it. these two gentlemen are helping educate Christians and non-christians about this important part of this belief system. For some Christians who listen to this conversation, they may realize that they have not looked deeply at what they say they believe. It might give them pause about supporting legislation that tries to impose this on others.

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@@nsbd90now 🙄 Mishlei 3:35

The people of the Bible were a bunch a weirdos

@@floptaxie68 🙄 The wise shall inherit glory: *but shame shall be the promotion of fools.* ~ Mishlei 3:35

@@TheZenGarden_ mish bolas

Where did you get your law degree?

Doesn't know what a strawman is. But you display an excellent example of a person who freely embraces willful ignorance.

@@nsbd90now Ignorance is what you see in a mirror.

@@este4955 The mirror is right next to my various diplomas: BA, MA, Ph.D. and late-in-life Assoc. of Science when I redid all basic math, sciences and then some. How 'bout you? Are you out of high school yet?

@@nsbd90now Diplomas in what? Gender studies? Hahahaha🤣 Not only ignorant, but also egoistic. it's really telling 😂

Atheism is not an ideology. it is a lack of belief in gods. These two do not mention gender fluidness as a part of their personal ideologies. They did not describe greed as good rather they pointed out the contradiction of opposing covetousness in the ten commandments while supporting an economic system driven by greed and covetousness. Going forward, please try to make your comments without bearing false witness. Thanks.