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The Problem With Your Survival Kit 

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Is Dave Canterbury's 10 C's of survivability the right approach to building a survival kit? Let's find out!
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@michaelm.7382
@michaelm.7382 10 месяцев назад
I've skeptically followed you for a short while. Long enough to know that you really have no idea about what you're talking about. I unsubscribed from you today. Get off your keyboard and go to the wilderness and practice what you're preaching. As a graduate of S.E.R.E. AND SEVERAL SURVIVIAL CLASSES as well as an active member of our local search & rescue. I would put my "knowledge " up against yours anyway. You would get someone killed. And that CI background socks. Your clouds or trees aren't even moving even with all that "wind" in your microphone. 😂
@STOKERMATIC
@STOKERMATIC 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for stopping by.
@ddeeeerr6887
@ddeeeerr6887 10 месяцев назад
so why is there a shadow at , the base of the tree on the right every time he moves the shadow moves with him
@beachbumseaglass
@beachbumseaglass 10 месяцев назад
Well.... Bye 👋
@michaelm.7382
@michaelm.7382 10 месяцев назад
@@beachbumseaglass thank ya much
@michaelm.7382
@michaelm.7382 10 месяцев назад
@@ddeeeerr6887 computer-generated numbnut LOL
@MountainWild66
@MountainWild66 10 месяцев назад
Your really missing the point about the ten c. It’s not intended to be the entire kit but just a baseline. Dave carries a firearm first aid kit and food and advocates that people do. He has a pretty extensive radio setup and teaches how to use it. This list of kit isn’t supposed to be specific he’s just showing the products he sells as an example of what he means. He preached the ten c long before he sold the gear. I’m a fan of yours and his not a fanboy for anyone but he talks about the same things you re here. I live in the Rocky’s in a pretty remote area I’m a hunter and outdoorsman I carry the first five cs nd then some because it is essential to survival but it’s not the entire kit.
@bafumat
@bafumat 8 месяцев назад
You're.... BTW
@karlhungusjr1
@karlhungusjr1 8 месяцев назад
@@bafumat it's "by the way", by the way.
@allenwurl6245
@allenwurl6245 6 месяцев назад
Thank you for saving me from typing this 👍 It took some time to understand where the creator of this video was going and he’s not wrong but it’s presented as a brainstorming session instead of a finished educational product.
@MrJayharr58
@MrJayharr58 6 месяцев назад
@@bafumatreally? Mehhhh
@chrishall9208
@chrishall9208 10 месяцев назад
I like the 10c’s but I also would want to carry my IFAC. Because when you use a powder powered drill it is almost a necessity. And because you are using sharp tools and when in a dehydrated state you can make mistakes. Your thoughts are duly noted and I have my day pack and my Ruck set up to compliment these ideas. Thanks for your insights.
@braunwm
@braunwm 10 месяцев назад
Stoker, you made a lot of good points. One of the things I have done is sat down and read through various survival situations out here in the west, and what caused them, and what could have helped. The points you mentioned about IFAK, self protection, navigation, & comms (in addition to others) are exactly what I arrived at too. There are reasons people get into survival situations, so one has to think through these situations. Comms is such an important piece I always have 3 methods of communications - satellite, ham & cell. It's rare that I have cell service, even on some of the major highways one can go for miles without a connection. People rely on their phone GPS to navigate maps, but have forgotten map & compass navigation. Another thing I see is people don't know how to drive in off-road situations, or safely extract a vehicle with another vehicle. Unfortunately, people have died due to this. There's a lot to think about and the learning never stops.
@bele2.041
@bele2.041 10 месяцев назад
Stoker, your videos provoke alot of thought. Your experiences as you have gone through life provide some valuable advice. I especially like that you don't condescend us and talk to your audience like we're your peers and your just trying to impart some of your knowledge. Have you done a video on your most practical rifle setup, and if not, can you?
@BackcountryTripper
@BackcountryTripper 10 месяцев назад
I think the 10c is a good starting point for beginners. There is also the 10 essentials of backpacking out there as a guide. I agree with most points .The boom stick, that one is for a case by case bases for what situation your going into. Cheers, Dave.
@STOKERMATIC
@STOKERMATIC 10 месяцев назад
🥃
@jamesparker6383
@jamesparker6383 10 месяцев назад
A great video and I agree with ya totally on what you said especially about the IFAK. I always carry a map of the area that I'll be in along with a good compass and if I go hiking or camping alone I make sure my wife has a copy of the same map with a circle drawn around the area I'll be in, in case I'm late getting back, that way they will know where to kook.
@phoenixrising4073
@phoenixrising4073 10 месяцев назад
I never thought about giving my wife a copy of the map too, that is great advice. Thanks for sharing that.
@Swamp_Lad
@Swamp_Lad 10 месяцев назад
Great advice. My own starting point of prepping is to prep for scenarios that happened in the past to me or people in my town. I had plenty of times for example that roads to my mountain town were closed so my car has a good sleeping bag, isomat and some foood and hiking gear. That way I can choose to wait it out in comfort till roads are open or hike the last 7km hon rover the mountain pass as I have jackets, shoes and pack ready to go
@Seancmccormick
@Seancmccormick 10 месяцев назад
You raise some good points. I still see the 10C’s as a pretty good base for an outdoor kit though. Most of these guys think you’re targeting Dave, but I believe you’re really targeting us, and for good reason. Thanks for the info Top! ATB Sean
@brentwentfishing
@brentwentfishing 10 месяцев назад
You have spoken truth, Sean! WE are the target of this video, not Dave.
@redryder8622
@redryder8622 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for not pushing a product;). This was a sincere video and is appreciated. I don’t know the percentage, but there is a group of people who take the 10c’s as gospel. In a clinical environment it makes perfect sense. Nature is not clinical. It’s fluid. You make a point that I think some people may miss and that is unfortunate. It was refreshing to watch. Thank you.
@meeshmeeshelle6326
@meeshmeeshelle6326 10 месяцев назад
I wouldn’t mind if he did push/promote a product. So long as it’s not the Chinese garbage where the SS rusts or the straps & seams bust loose or victims of human trafficking are producing it. There are some really great American companies producing quality gear where their business model doesn’t rely upon slave labor in order to lower the costs but everyone complains that it costs too much so they keep supporting China …and the cycle continues. All it takes is a commitment from more Americans to save their money & support American companies, and we can get back to a level playing field. United We Stand. Divided We Fall.
@benfoot4212
@benfoot4212 10 месяцев назад
Good stuff. I stop believing in Dave when he made his military claims of jobs he did that helped him become a bushcrafter(which he never attended). I went to those schools, they had nothing to do with bushcraft/survival. I have to agree, good info on what to take. Heard a guy say only take a band aid and Motrin and dump your IFAK's. I ignored him and a few weeks ago I used my extensive first aid kit when I stupidly sliced my finger open, ended in stitches. BTW, got your book, good stuff
@erolkavlakverizon6112
@erolkavlakverizon6112 10 месяцев назад
Thank you top for another outstanding video. You are absolutely correct about the 10 C's. They definitely are not all encompassing. All y'all stay safe. Hope everyone enjoyed Thanksgiving.
@James-dq3jo
@James-dq3jo 10 месяцев назад
I think the 10 Cs isn’t perfect but it isn’t the worst place to start Major needs are fire, water, shelter. If you’re injured, first aid. Food isn’t strictly necessary but 72h without any of it sounds pretty miserable, so throw in a few granola bars maybe. Signaling for rescue also a pretty good idea. If you knew where you were going you probably wouldn’t be in this mess so while that’s not a bad idea, is it the most necessary? Maybe stay put for a while? Most glaring omission is some kind of decent water purifier-practically speaking most water sources you are likely to find will be polluted and full of bacteria. Boiling will kill the bacteria but won’t remove the pollution. And what if it’s raining or you are unsuccessful in making fire, you still need water.
@victorchinchillvas
@victorchinchillvas 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for making us think, Stoker.🙏🏽🤘🏽
@tombarnard4414
@tombarnard4414 10 месяцев назад
It seems obvious you have not read any books or articles by Dave Canterbury. You have no concept of the 10Cs. The 10Cs is not a list of 10 items but a list of 10 categories of equipment. The concept was originally designed for bushcrafting and then evolved in to wilderness survival. The basic idea is that those categories are the MINIMUM to survive and not the only items to bring and meant to be the ONLY items. The first 5 are the hardest to recreate of of the landscape, Cuting, Container, Combustion, Cordage and Cover. PS: The 10Cs is an abbreviation not an acronym. An acronym is taking the first letter from a group of words to spell out a Word, just thought if your going to dis someone use the correct term.
@STOKERMATIC
@STOKERMATIC 10 месяцев назад
I’m pretty sure I mentioned them being 10 categories. Why would it be a minimum requirement to carry a needle? What’s your argument against food, communication, map, self defense, and not using a rag you used to filter water for dressing a wound? Appreciate your feedback.
@tombarnard4414
@tombarnard4414 10 месяцев назад
You really need to read Dave’s Bushcraft 101. It might change your perspective There is nothing in the concept to say you can’t carry additional items, ifak, food, blaster etc.. In Dave’s books, some videos and articles he talks about have those additional items but again the 10Cs is the MINIMUM not the ONLY items/catagories to bring. Do a little more research and you’ll see what I’m talking about. And by the way he was advocating the 10Cs before he was selling stuff.
@highchamp1
@highchamp1 10 месяцев назад
Thinking critically. As opposed to group think. Being grown up. As opposed to childish behavior. Stay STOKED
@dennisseverns4014
@dennisseverns4014 10 месяцев назад
I still do not use the terms Bug Out Bag, Get Home Bag, Bushcraft or EDC Bag. The kit term that I first learned other than a survival kit, was called a Get Lost Kit. I still pretty much carry a Get List Kit most of the time, when I go out into the woods.
@dennisseverns4014
@dennisseverns4014 10 месяцев назад
That get lost kit, from one of the books I had as a 13 year old, when I first started going out into the woods alone, started off with food and first aid items. Last section of the book, Complete Book Of Camping, was called "Plan To Get Lost" that is where I found that Get Lost Kit. All of my camping gear, back then, was items I found around my house.
@TylerNoble22
@TylerNoble22 10 месяцев назад
Talk about somebody missing the point lol. This man needs a backboard on his hat to catch the shit that flys over his head.
@P6009D
@P6009D 10 месяцев назад
If I could subscribe 10 times to your channel, I would. The scenario is as follows: I am in the forest because of a social crisis. I have 10 things with me that start with the letter C. I'm frozen and hungry and everyone I meet has a bottle bag with 10 things in it that start with the letter C. Some of them know how to use a needle, but think that the compass is some kind of sundial. At this point, I just want to shout, Mom.
@brentwentfishing
@brentwentfishing 10 месяцев назад
LOL! 🤣 Well stated!
@Grizzly907LA
@Grizzly907LA 5 месяцев назад
I guess my Gerber strong arm knife won't cut it as a survival knife because its only 4" long ;-) I'm sure the bush crafters lost their mud when this video dropped. The 10 C's are good starting point, however some clarification needs to be put in there as well. We all need a contrarian. Stay stoked!
@rixsix280
@rixsix280 10 месяцев назад
This country is divided enough, we don't need our outdoors community being divided too.
@GLEN1061
@GLEN1061 10 месяцев назад
The 10c's was a marketing / branding strategy from day one!
@dez410
@dez410 10 месяцев назад
How when there are literally no products or brands mentioned in them? Just because I tell someone they should have shelter in a blizzard doesn't mean I'm trying to sell them a manufactured home.
@richardcreurer2935
@richardcreurer2935 10 месяцев назад
I learned about the 5 Cs and then about the 10 Cs a few years ago, and it made sense to a point. But it never covered everything you run into or have happen to you. So the more read and listened to people on social media the more I added to the essentials, just like you’ve spoken of in this video. I’m Canadian, you may have heard about the recent political kerfuffle about gun ownership up here. It, the nonsense about banning ownership of ‘boom sticks’ as you put it, doesn’t make much sense to me. I’ve camped in organized campgrounds and in the wild, I’ve almost always camped in the wild with a long gun of some sort nearby, never had to use it fortunately but it was reassuring to have it if it was needed. And that couple with their dog that were killed by the grizzly bear and other such stories that I heard of, from here in Canada, is why I always did so. To get back to the point, I’ve pretty much concluded that the 10Cs are just the basics for planning what to take with you when you step out into the ‘great outdoors’ and they’re not even the first or second considerations when you plan on what you may need, to be able to return home safely on any given day. I don’t always step out the door with an EDC kit to hand but I’m working at it, to have several kits set up to have at hand, when I do.
@PatriotsArk
@PatriotsArk 10 месяцев назад
Awesome video! bringing real life ,To survival. All these people that hardly can spend 1 night at campgrounds,Think they going to Carry a whole house to no where. You got me thinking about the China gear,Maybe them knowing how much we are in distress and see the massive increase of civilians getting survival gear or defense gear is a bad insight to our strength as a nation.
@brentwentfishing
@brentwentfishing 10 месяцев назад
🤔 I didn't think of that angle!
@blackmetalpaganbushcraft9542
@blackmetalpaganbushcraft9542 10 месяцев назад
Hey.....where the link.....in the description......😂
@leebratton7570
@leebratton7570 10 месяцев назад
Yeah to me the 10c's should prolly be more of an edc.The things at a minimum should be in your pocket or vehicle.Most of the components are pretty small.But stoke I'm curious to see what you would consider essential items.
@STOKERMATIC
@STOKERMATIC 10 месяцев назад
Covered it in the end of the video. 🥃
@runningman1156
@runningman1156 10 месяцев назад
Solid info👍👍
@ddeeeerr6887
@ddeeeerr6887 10 месяцев назад
"Panic In Year Zero " watch the movie . It was made in1962 Alot of truths . Dad got-it Son Got-it Mother was slow but she Got-it About Nuke` war
@jimmyfields5831
@jimmyfields5831 10 месяцев назад
Army of Darkness BOOM STICK!!!
@dangerousfarmer
@dangerousfarmer 10 месяцев назад
The 10 C’s are more 10 categories rather than a hard and fast list limited to literally 10 items. There may be only 1 item or there may be multiple items per category.
@STOKERMATIC
@STOKERMATIC 10 месяцев назад
Food. First aid. Communication. Map. Just a few thoughts.
@dangerousfarmer
@dangerousfarmer 10 месяцев назад
@@STOKERMATIC Agreed. It’s a good base to build on and add to but isn’t complete all by itself.
@grainplaner216
@grainplaner216 10 месяцев назад
Causing people who think to do so, keep up the good work .
@BlueJayWaters
@BlueJayWaters 10 месяцев назад
Boomstick huh? Would not have pegged you for an Army of Darkness fan. Groovy
@STOKERMATIC
@STOKERMATIC 10 месяцев назад
🥃
@jenniferbauman4802
@jenniferbauman4802 10 месяцев назад
Good video. The good old boom stick. Came from the movie. Evil Dead. Army of darkness. Be smart shop S Mart. Oh he did a TV show. Shit was funny. Good talk. God bless. From Glenn CATT. In Massachusetts.
@tykit9230
@tykit9230 10 месяцев назад
"If you're a crayon eater, this video might not be for you" says the crayon eater 😆🤣😂
@willisblevins4190
@willisblevins4190 10 месяцев назад
Nice one
@jimgam730
@jimgam730 10 месяцев назад
Army of Darkness. "This is my boom stick."
@glorybound7599
@glorybound7599 9 месяцев назад
Hang in there, Christ is coming back. We shall prepare, care for and defend ourselves as necessary. Unite with like minded individuals and keep the faith.
@arnsnicklefritz9634
@arnsnicklefritz9634 10 месяцев назад
You rock in my book. And that's far and few between Good Sir. May God keep and protect you and yours, in Jesus name. Padre PIO, and Mary, mother of God we pray. Ahhhmen/let it be done.
@cockamamiebumfuzzle9331
@cockamamiebumfuzzle9331 10 месяцев назад
I can solo overnight in the rain for months with just one set of mini Knapux pliers from temu 🤓
@mcashler2678
@mcashler2678 10 месяцев назад
The 10 c should never be your only options. To me they are a starting point to expand up on . A person should set up a day pack based on location,season and always have what they would need for 72+ hours.
@Stoney_AKA_James
@Stoney_AKA_James 10 месяцев назад
Exactly
@L8TrSkUmBaG
@L8TrSkUmBaG 10 месяцев назад
Who’s the tool that said the 10Cs are all you need? Dave C never said it in any video I watched from the guy. He did say 2 is one and 1 is none, recommending ya carry 3 different types of each kind. Why all the hate? Just because he sells chit? I got a Knock off Mora sheath on his website super cheap back in the day. Don’t need a $200 knife, but I think it’s fine if he has one for sale. Hope he sells all of them!
@jdam568
@jdam568 10 месяцев назад
I used the 10 cs to get through a very difficult situation, stuck on foot overnight in a storm in a wilderness area. I used that headlamp to gather wood to keep a fire going all night. I used that metal container/cup combo to keep warm liquid going. I used a 5x7 tarp as a wind/rain break. I hadnt planned on spending the night.. A freak May storm stranded me and my boat far away from any roads and my truck. I had a pistol with me, but i needed the other items way more at that point. Trust me, if your in a bad situation the 10cs can make all the difference.
@ericlivingston9903
@ericlivingston9903 10 месяцев назад
Hey Stoker, thanks for the video. As the Cs are concerned it’s actually 5 Cs of survivability and 5 for sustainability. In my opinion they serve as a construct to build on. They are as flexible as you are or want they to be. I’ve added other Cs like care and cartridges and comms, and calories. My opinion is survival requires some level of common sense.
@sokyoutdoors588
@sokyoutdoors588 10 месяцев назад
I think you look at the 10's with myopic vision. This kit is to be carried as a base that you fill out for whatever your trip to the woods is for.
@talljohn66
@talljohn66 10 месяцев назад
Your train has left the station. You are no longer on the reservation. Your can of spaghetios are empty. See psychiatric assistance.
@STOKERMATIC
@STOKERMATIC 10 месяцев назад
I’ve been told I’m not playing with a full deck.
@STOKERMATIC
@STOKERMATIC 10 месяцев назад
I’ve been told I’m not playing with a full deck.
@KiltPatrick
@KiltPatrick 10 месяцев назад
Literally everything you mentioned, missed the mark of the 10 C's. Cordage: Your static rope is cordage. Can you tie/lash/bind with it? Yep. Candling device: Youre gonna need to see at night, especially when it gets darker, sooner, at least temporarily. Flashlights work, headlights let you use both hands. Container: boiling is the CDC's choice when purifying water. You need SOMETHING to boiling water, but carrying water over distance? That 2qt is fine. Just know how to boil 2 quarts of water. Next youre gonna say you dont need a knife/axe/saw/machete, or Cover is too many items to count as a sincle C. Its a starting point. You need critical thinking skills to figure it out, FOR YOUR ENVIRONMENT. I live in Ohio. I can crawl a mile and a half with a broken back in ANY direction and get to someones house. Youre over thinking all of the wrong aspects, just to over think it.
@albertwells8393
@albertwells8393 10 месяцев назад
He's either a complete idiot or he's using Dave's name to clout chase and get more views. Probably both.
@JAB671
@JAB671 10 месяцев назад
Just to put a few things out there, the person who mainly advocates for the five Cs and the ten Cs has himself said that those things are just a core kit for folks to add to as/if their needs dictate. Basically he doesn't say those things are all you ever need to survive. Instead he seems to be saying that having those bases covered will greatly increase your chances. He has often talked in his videos about using those items to turn a possible survival situation into an inconvenient/uncomfortable camping situation. He also says that each 'C' isn't necessarily just one item. You might have a headlamp but also a couple of small candles for light and to maybe help start a fire. For cutting tools you might have a fixed blade, a Swiss Army Knife (which he carries), an axe/hatchet and a packable saw. He has shown that he carries three Bic lighters in addition to ferro rods, etc. and says that in a bad situation he will use the Bic every time. Because he apparently does a lot of hunting and trapping he often shows having a shotgun with him and has several videos centered around single barrel shotguns. I think he just can't push firearms too much because of RU-vid and the nature of his channel. Where I agree with you 100% - and it isn't just him but a lot of folks talking about setting up wilderness emergency kits, get home bags, bug out bags or whatever - is food. The attitude a lot of times is, "You can go three weeks without food," and I say, "Like hell I can"! For one thing I know how hungry you get when you do hard, physical labor even in a controlled environment (not that I do as much of that as when I was younger) but I also have non-insulin dependent blood sugar issues. He has talked about taking food rations when he plans to be out for a few days but few people seem.to see the value of a summer sausage, some hard cheese and crackers in a pack at least. I don't do a lot of hardcore, back country activities but I make sure I have some kind if food/snack or something even on a day hike because you never know. A basic IFAK is something else that a lot of folks seem to think is not important. I agree with you that it is - especially if you are going to be using sharp implements like knives, hatchets, etc. even just camping and not in a 'survival scenario'. He does sell branded merchandise but I have no problem with the guy making a living. He doesn't say that if you don't have equipment with his logo on it you are going to die. In fact, he has done 'common man' videos where he talks about alternatives or ways to pick up gear on the cheap. Anyhow, I don't know the guy, haven't taken any of his classes and don't want to come off as thinking he can do no wrong or that his way is the only way. I do feel.like he gives good ideas and info pretty much for free and has been doing so on RU-vid longer than most so I just wanted to put those things out there in the interest of fairness.
@turnipvolume4789
@turnipvolume4789 10 месяцев назад
Ummm. Heres my comment. Call me crazy but your looking a tad drunk to me man. I never did subscribe and looking through the comments i can see i made the proper decision. I guess that frees up a slot for another perspective in a most very serious subject 👋
@robertbrannan9375
@robertbrannan9375 10 месяцев назад
When you say "they really dont mean a bic lighter" who exactly are you referring to? Because dave says 3 bic lighters..
@angryshrub1
@angryshrub1 10 месяцев назад
Are you looking for a Harry’s Razor sponsorship? Love the critical thinking about the “Holy Grail” of survival. I’ve always been irritated by the stretching of “C”s. Candeling, cargo tape. Nobody says that. Maybe design a Stoker “F” kit. Firearm, fire, food,first aid, fermented beverages, etc.
@angryshrub1
@angryshrub1 10 месяцев назад
Looks like you ruffled some feathers. Maybe it needs to be the 13 “C”s. Condescending, criticism, and competition? I think the outdoor market is plenty big for more than one philosophy, but when you threaten the bureaucracy of what is currently out there, you’re going to get some drama. SRO has built a business off of the 10 “c”s and sells a lot of products because of it. You challenged that with some different thought and ideas. I think you both have offered great value to the community. In the immortal words of Rodney King “Can’t we all just get along?”
@MrJayharr58
@MrJayharr58 6 месяцев назад
@@angryshrub1I think this was the most dead on comment in this entire thread! Well articulated. That’s pretty much how I feel. Only other thing is somewhat questionable is the gear list requirements on the classes. In the early years there was a lot of flexibility, however recently many items need to be purchased from SRO. Not all. Many other survival schools aren’t gear heavy like SRO.
@rrock7497
@rrock7497 10 месяцев назад
Dude you obviously have no concept of what a concept means, the challenge of working a system within a system would escape you . Your inability to leave your political jabs and random opinions or mini rants out and stick to an educated factual display to support your cause and raise a better system to mind. It becomes obvious you're poaching view hits in using someone's well thought out practiced functional system name . Which in fact is not exclusive but rather inclusive of said ten c's to "better effect your chances of survivability " in a 72 hr scenario or beyond. To carry things that are hard to recreate in the wild. The education behind that system and the man behind it has Cleary said through thousands of elaborate and sensible dialog checks in his school and videos that it's a mindset and system he uses. Go get educated then try to educate.
@jeremys9601
@jeremys9601 10 месяцев назад
If you can’t survive 3 days without your radio, your fishing kit and gps, you probably just need more training.
@billypoulin-lariviere1021
@billypoulin-lariviere1021 10 месяцев назад
The 10 C's are just the base of any pack or survival kit. I like to throw a basic 5 or 10 C's kit in every pack i build no matter the purpose IE our baby essentials bag.
@scotbotvideos
@scotbotvideos 10 месяцев назад
This reminds me of that scene in There's Something About Mary when Ben Stiller picks up the hitchhiker who talks about the 7 minute abs.
@Dee-tx7ej
@Dee-tx7ej 10 месяцев назад
You should read John McCann or Ron Hood's stuff. That's where the 10 C's originated from.
@Jaden48108
@Jaden48108 10 месяцев назад
Dave Canterbury would be the first to admit the 10Cs are not written in stone. They are 10 separate but interlocking categories to enhance survival with each having redundancies to accomplish a minimal life-preserving system over a relatively short period of time. What people do above and beyond that is totally up to them for their situation. Here's Dave Canterbury himself explaining it in detail: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GRr2V5LkrhQ.html and yes, it does counter your argument, but by the man himself.
@marshallwebb7050
@marshallwebb7050 10 месяцев назад
I think Dave coined the 10 C's for beginners looking to build a small survival pack, but if you look at the totality of what the pathfinder mindset offers, they use way more than that. Could you survive with only the 10 C's and the redundant C's? yes, but it's always helpful to have more gear. Good video though
@280zjammer
@280zjammer 10 месяцев назад
Actually, the ten c's are just the required equipment to attend the Pathfinder School of Survival. They are intended to teach a very specific set of skills. It's more about curriculum than a basis for a kit.
@marshallwebb7050
@marshallwebb7050 10 месяцев назад
@@280zjammer yeah I could see that.
@MichaelTravis12c27
@MichaelTravis12c27 10 месяцев назад
The first C of survival on RU-vid, stoke Controversy! lol there are few better ways to do that than to Contradict a popular survival personality. Love the channel!
@johnnylangley7023
@johnnylangley7023 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for your common sense approach to survival!!!!
@thomas-i5o7h
@thomas-i5o7h 10 месяцев назад
I have always felt that the 10 C's as people like to call them are just rudimentary basics to get one to thinking about what might need to be carried to help keep your behind alive for 24, 48, 72 or however many hours when it hits the fan and you gotta go find someplace to get away from it all until things start to calm down.
@urielmartinez2161
@urielmartinez2161 10 месяцев назад
Yup a base. A really good starting point too
@maccabeus-everydaysurvival5828
@maccabeus-everydaysurvival5828 10 месяцев назад
Good stuff... alot of bs in the echo chambers
@donwest600
@donwest600 10 месяцев назад
Good food for thought. I am amazed at how much has changed over time, growing up if you had a trapper or stockman knife, were appropriately dressed for the weather, canteen and lighter you were good to go.venturing farther add map and compass and sewing kit. I often wonder if the all things tactical mindset today we have not complicated things.
@STOKERMATIC
@STOKERMATIC 10 месяцев назад
Indeed!
@ellanvanninbushcraft8388
@ellanvanninbushcraft8388 10 месяцев назад
I actually agree with everything you have just said. How do people not know the basics of survival ability . Fire, shelter, water, food, first aid and self defense. The royal marines have a saying, Travel lite, die at night. Also, what you said about the shemagh. It’s so true. I always have a mil bank bag to filter water then boil it. Great video. Take care. Craig.🇮🇲🇮🇲🇮🇲
@KirstenBayes
@KirstenBayes 10 месяцев назад
Yes! I get very frustrated by the 10Cs. Folks can get hold of "Freedom of the Hills" (US) or "Hillwalking" (UK) books for 10 or 20 bucks, both of which have proper kitlists (that, by the way, have saved my life a couple of times when weather has gone south). Alternatively the USMC has free downloads MCRP 3-02H Survival, Evasion and Recovery, as welll as FM 3-05.70 for pure survival training. The latter document has a decent kit list to get started. Here on RU-vid, as well as this lovely channel, Andrew from Ranger Survival shows you how it all goes together, and Gruntproof gets into it too. It's all there for people.
@ifyoudontfailyouarenoteven6210
@ifyoudontfailyouarenoteven6210 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for the reading recommendations. Really appreciate it :)
@ldtexas1648
@ldtexas1648 10 месяцев назад
YEP!👍
@JosephAllen-d2e
@JosephAllen-d2e 10 месяцев назад
That's funny because Andrew promotes the 10 c's.
@KirstenBayes
@KirstenBayes 10 месяцев назад
@@JosephAllen-d2e his Lost Hiker Survival kit and SERE kit videos are nevertheless very good.
@lordfairfaxpreparedness
@lordfairfaxpreparedness 9 месяцев назад
It's pretty clear that you just have an issue with Dave Canterbury. The 10 C's are a basic CATEGORY of items that can assist in basic survival, not a be all, end all specific list of items. Dave himself and many of his instructors carry BIC lighters. Calories, Communications, and first aid are additional items that can be included. It's NOT just 10 items, it's a beginning, not a be all end all list. IF you actually watched any of Dave Canterbury's videos OR videos of ANY of his instructors, you would know this.
@RobertGeorge-l2i
@RobertGeorge-l2i 9 месяцев назад
Lost a lot of respect for you after this video. Stop trying to nitpick his system apart. You know what you’re doing, Dave does too. Trying to promote your channel by putting his down is stupid.. 10c’s are GUIDELINES.
@MrJayharr58
@MrJayharr58 6 месяцев назад
Oh man this was so funny, good to see your dry humor side. Glad you said it. I mean look at the heat lists to go to the classes for just the “basic” every year it changes. Im a contractor and throw construction grade materials in the Home Depot husky 4 mil bags but those aren’t good enough for the class!! Need to be 6 mil. I think many people that left you bad feedback are missing the point of your argument . Lastly, the two biggest items being recommended are the helikon tex swagman roll, and the mora garberg. He is a brand ambassador to both!! Hear me out , they are awesome I love the garberg, and the swagman roll. However, when it’s kinda constantly implied and always on every class list it makes you think about intention. There are multiple intentions is all and as long as people can have some critical thinking and awareness of that, great! Great video man. This must have been at Randles property. Looks like it from his vids.
@rogerjensen5277
@rogerjensen5277 10 месяцев назад
This video seems like a 19+ minute 'bitch' session! I'm not saying that you'll all wrong but I think that if you dug a little deeper that you would a better opinion of the 10Cs. As I see them, they are a starting point not a end-all-to-be-all. Dave Canterbury often stresses the need for adaptability and yes he carries an IFAK, food, shotgun and lighter(s). Even the best hunter and/or fisherman and/or gatherer gets skunked sometimes and Dave definitely knows that! A scarf may not be the best bandaid but it's far better than nothing to stop the bleeding (which is kill you faster than almost anything, except bullets), the point is that common items can have many uses! The 10Cs do have the potential to help you fend off a bear; the knife can be used to make other weapons like spears or bow and arrows or even a club, the ferro/lighter can help make fire fairly easily. Fire can fire harden the tips of spears and all animals (except young children) have a fear of fire, a torch can be the best defensive weapon against a bear! Predators are not usually looking for a fight, usually just a meal, preferably an easy one! The show "Alone" deliberately sets up their 'survivors' to fail mainly because making professional videos/shows are quite expensive, in the millions of dollars so the longer the people 'survive' the more it costs to produce the show! Seriously, anyone deliberately going into a situation like the show 'manufactures' wouldn't be carrying 60 pounds of camera gear, or be limited to what equipment they carry (as long as they can physically carry it) or the area that they survive in! It's a show, Hollyweird! Having said all that, I still enjoy your videos, thank you!
@a.j.taylor4401
@a.j.taylor4401 9 месяцев назад
I enjoy your content but i think you missed the whole point of the 10 c's. You obviously havent watched much of Dave Canterbury's content. If you have then you would know the 10 c's arent 10 items, they are 10 categories of items. They are a base line to build your kit. Dave has preached this for years. It doesnt mean you should just carry 10 items. Its common sense. He has said this over and over. And as far as having links to items in his store, i see nothing wrong with someone trying to be profitable and supporting they're family. This is the united states of America after all. This video really rubbed me the wrong way.
@tonyrockhill3318
@tonyrockhill3318 9 месяцев назад
This doesn't sound really objective. It sounds more like you're just bashing and being bitter. Your mention of "commifornia", multiple mentions of sales links and obvious distortion of how the 10's is intended all make me think your advice is for purposes other than to be truly informative.
@viper071
@viper071 10 месяцев назад
Stoke - you seem upset with something, can you just come out and say what your problem is?
@dangudgeon3833
@dangudgeon3833 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for your service. Stick to your skill set, maybe cut back on the commie tears and stop riding someone else’s content to get views.
@protect.live.survive.4177
@protect.live.survive.4177 10 месяцев назад
I love crayons 😂😂😂😂
@jeffreycompton5748
@jeffreycompton5748 10 месяцев назад
Did Dave hurt your feelings lol
@christophersteingart2237
@christophersteingart2237 10 месяцев назад
I've seen some good videos on this channel, however on this one, you're making much to do about nothing. Anyone interested in preparedness and survivalism, already know better. This could have been a brief video for newbies who don't know better.
@dougcfrary
@dougcfrary 10 месяцев назад
You are fin nuts if you ask me. Just sayin.
@jimhamel7864
@jimhamel7864 9 месяцев назад
I watched to hopefully learn something from you. Sadly disappointed!
@llCarnivoreBushcraftll
@llCarnivoreBushcraftll 10 месяцев назад
What’s the first things they teach at any bushcraft and survival training? 10Cs. Dave Canterbury explains why what and how’s of the 10Cs. This guy just contradicted himself throughout the whole video! Well played Stokermatic! You know how to get audience engagement! 😅
@aaronsemasko9281
@aaronsemasko9281 9 месяцев назад
For someone who constantly mocks having links in the description, you sure have a lot of links in your description.
@thevirginiabushcrafter8833
@thevirginiabushcrafter8833 10 месяцев назад
WoW, so, so, sooo True. Thanks for Sharing. I have to watch this again, like "Right Now", and I am.
@bushcraftingterranaut4755
@bushcraftingterranaut4755 10 месяцев назад
Its obvious you don't understand the 10 C's concept. Nobody is saying you can't take an IFAK or protein bars. Use some critical thinking.
@STOKERMATIC
@STOKERMATIC 10 месяцев назад
If I find a video that suggests the 10 Cs THE way to build a kit, but they get it wrong - do you post critical remarks? Or is it just on videos that offer some criticism?
@bushcraftingterranaut4755
@bushcraftingterranaut4755 10 месяцев назад
@@STOKERMATIC you are criticizing a concept that you got wrong. So the answer is yes to both. I also have to wonder if you only made the video to stir controversy for clicks.
@llCarnivoreBushcraftll
@llCarnivoreBushcraftll 10 месяцев назад
@@bushcraftingterranaut4755 100% he did. He’s playing the algorithms and laughing all the way to the bank. For a dumbass, he’s a genius.
@killjoy8914
@killjoy8914 10 месяцев назад
If it's made in China and sold in America does that make it a Chinese American . Man you went off the YT survival community Script ....nice.
@mikec.8556
@mikec.8556 10 месяцев назад
Not really and the instructions are written in chinglish.
@gud2go50
@gud2go50 10 месяцев назад
Looks like your trying to pick a fight with Dave Canterberry. If you are, then you loose dude. 10 C's are a general guidance. All the things you point out to are trivial. Don't be like that Army man. Come on!
@wolfgangkranek376
@wolfgangkranek376 10 месяцев назад
10 c's - because they come from Chyna... 😅 The main problem with the 10 c's may be that they are based on a bushcrafter's mindset.
@scottfergusson8411
@scottfergusson8411 10 месяцев назад
I have known way to many people that have all the toys but …… have NO knowledge of how to put their gadgets to real practical use. I have told them many times to get ( at least ) in the back yard and PRACTICE ! Knowledge is the true weapon/tool ! Who would last longer in most situations???? Cody or Dave ? Cody for my vote. Electrolytes !!!!!!!!!!!!!! I carry salt/minerals… game changers !!!! If I can comfortably carry it …. It’s coming with me… Better to have it and NOT need it than to need it and NOT have it… as my great grandpappy used to say.
@scottfergusson8411
@scottfergusson8411 10 месяцев назад
@@alfanika2934 You don’t know shit
@scottfergusson8411
@scottfergusson8411 10 месяцев назад
@@alfanika2934 can you make a weapon without knowledge? Can you get yourself at of a bad situation without knowledge? Can you procure food in the wild without knowledge? Can you win a fight without knowledge? And on And on And on Have fun in your mom’s basement! 60 year old retired Marine Been around the block multiple times. Been there done that .
@scottfergusson8411
@scottfergusson8411 10 месяцев назад
@@alfanika2934 that was a good one ! You win 🥇
@Thatsmisteroldguytou
@Thatsmisteroldguytou 10 месяцев назад
Army of darkness. Broomstick from that movie.
@mikec.8556
@mikec.8556 10 месяцев назад
That’s it !
@d3vildog
@d3vildog 10 месяцев назад
“Shop smart” Boom Stick was made in Grand Rapids, MICHIGAN. Army of Darkness great movie!
@steveb8001
@steveb8001 10 месяцев назад
You obviously know your craft, but you might be taking the 10 C’s too literally. It’s not meant to be anything more than a starting point that is to be tailored to specific needs. In fact, the 5 C’s and 10 C’s, in my estimation find their root in Bushcrafting which is more focused on being mindfulness of the adage, “the more you know, the less you need.” It certainly does not mean that you’re limited to the 10 C’s. Nor are paracord, bankline and rope all mutually exclusive items that you have to choose between, you can certainly bring what you need. I find it’s a positive mental thought process that can assist in thinking through your gear. I’m actually more focused on thinking through shelter-fire-water-food-med-nav-signal, that I am on the 10 C’s. But your point is well taken, the 10 C’s are fine and dandy until shit goes sideways. I hope that novices don’t think the 10 C’s means that you can’t build in redundancy. You should have the ferro, the lighter and matches; not just one or the other.
@BBRWild
@BBRWild 9 месяцев назад
Good and very useful video !
@recondo4u
@recondo4u 10 месяцев назад
Damn Straight Bill! Also add another “C” and that would be conditioning (Fitness). Your S.E.R.E , SURVIVAL SCHOOL trained ass will die if your body can’t handle the situation. Knowledge, Fitness, Tools and application of each! You keep doing what you’re doing Brother!
@dogmom6010
@dogmom6010 10 месяцев назад
Hey don't forget to ask Mr c to wear a condom it better be in your daily carry
@OregonMike
@OregonMike 10 месяцев назад
Wait a minute! Your not trying to sell any thing? I think this violates you tube's terms of service. 🤣
@STOKERMATIC
@STOKERMATIC 10 месяцев назад
🤣
@BargerD92
@BargerD92 10 месяцев назад
In my opinion this is a very poor review of the Ten C's. It literally seems like you Googled the list and ran with it without any further research.
@steveworden3109
@steveworden3109 10 месяцев назад
Nice green screen
@STOKERMATIC
@STOKERMATIC 10 месяцев назад
😂🤣
@PreparedPathfinder
@PreparedPathfinder 9 месяцев назад
I have long thought the same thoughts about the 10 C's mate. For those who keep stating it's a baseline, how about having some more relevant categories in the baseline? Like Med Kit, Defence or Comms? Also Navigation would be more suitable than a Compass. Cotton Bandanna, Cargo Tape and Canvas Needle are BS.
@Tsmace33
@Tsmace33 10 месяцев назад
You said alot and nothing at the same time. Go back inside.
@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival
@FloridaBoyBushcraftSurvival 8 месяцев назад
Jeez, such haters. Love it brother, great video...keep it up. Most of these idiots posting wouldn't last ONE night in the wild, but to actually go out in the woods would require them to leave their moms basement and do something lol. If we weren't on opposite sides of the country I would love to do a trip with you.
@jesseja1883
@jesseja1883 10 месяцев назад
Dave Canterbury is a proponent of Bic lighters. You have misconceptions about 10 C's.
@YeetCheif
@YeetCheif 10 месяцев назад
It’s your humbleness that will help you prevail….. and doing and instructing while doing … keep it up brother your awesome
@arthurlambart7115
@arthurlambart7115 9 месяцев назад
This is a comedy channel right.
@GalenChock59
@GalenChock59 10 месяцев назад
I use the 10 C's just as a base starting point but I customize my load out based on what I like to use. I always carry most of the 10 C's in my EDC but my other packs supplement what I carry.
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