The Problems With Final Fantasy 7 Rebirth 

...you monster.

Unsubbed 😞

Based pickles are pretty nasty

I take them out of my burgers when I forget to say no pickles

Are pickles in FF13?… is that why you won’t acknowledge it🤣

Easy to do, when you just make up a game like that. There was no Final Fantasy 13.

@@Bananahammock681”there is no war in ba sing se”

Good!

@@Bananahammock681 There is a real FF13, it's called Lost Odyssey.

Solo FF Tactics review when?

Someone is into single moms.

Hey there, Tim! I knew if I looked deep into the bathroom I would find your comment on a ProJared video!

No but have seen the cup noodle commercial

@@danielleon5928”I shall bring you Donbei.”

@@dablazingbryan5559 oh god its happening again

Remake Sephiroth when he sees Cloud.

Aerith: "shall I give you this chair?"

Yeah

HopefuIIy he gained some working consistently experience and we'll be having a lot of good content here in the future. (Cope)

I’d rather get more Now in the 90s. It was like my comfort food that I just kinda got used to being there, reminding me of all the cool gaming memories I remember living through in the 90s. I had gaming magazines back then and loved games, so the series was so perfect for me. A perfect hit of nostalgia, that for some reason stupid me just assumed would continue through 2029 so we could relive PlayStation, N64, Saturn, Dreamcast and more. The format for the show was so freaking cool. I hope someone else rips off the idea and creates something similar. It was just such a sweet trip down memory lane.

We didn't lose now in the 90s, it has its own channel now.

@@talktimegamers9184 they arent doing any more now in the 90s content, they're shuttering the channel because it underperformed and didnt make good money.

What’s wrong with the pickleverse?

Chadley constantly popping up was annoying, especially during that really weird Pickles mission

Wasn't it a pear?

The better scene is when Sephiroth turns Zack into a pickle for the the final boss and Zack yells IM A PICKLE CLOUD. IM PICKLE ZACK before doing his limit break

dude his combat lines

He basically like cloud in the first half, trying so hard to be cool but constantly failing at it. You can see the hint the he is faking the "wise" persona through all of it. And like you said, he still has those knowledge and he can be playful like changing to his "wise" voice like in the pirate sidequest.

@@staticbystandermark1 I'm actually curious about that. There is some optional content that's available before Cosmo Canyon that I didn't complete until after Cosmo Canyon, and he actually used his "kid" voice in those scenes. I wonder if they actually recorded 2 takes for if you complete that optional content before/after Cosmo Canyon?

​@bvoyelr Yeah they did record 2 different voices depending on where you are in the story.

@@bvoyelr They did that in the original game too, although obviously it wasn't voice acted. It also didn't make it through translation.

Wait. Do they really have a conversation about pickles or did you just say that for the joke?

When Barret mentions "all the pickles on this giant @&#% pizza" I was confused, but then I remembered that cactuars are really just abnormally large mutated cucumbers after all

Even if you’re not a fan of pickles (me, went with my family) there’s lots of great other stuff too!

You are in the projared time line

@@gregbrown6921As are we all

Accurate

Super interesting. I gotta try this sometime

It sort of works well in this game too. Aside from maybe in the grasslands which felt a tad too big for its own good for a first region.

I guess we're so used to hand-holding that we hold it against the game when it for a moment doesn't do so. Gongaga region is mostly jungle, I think it being harder to navigate is part of the charm.

Damn bro you’re right!!!! brings a different feel and keeps its exciting because you can’t wait to find a area and special items and equipment also keeps you very sharp it challenges you

They have the summon fat chocobo. so YES summon pickle.

Nah, I think Nanaki was just trying to sound cool. Like in the original, you kind of get the sense he’s older, until you go to cosmo canyon. Then you find out he’s actually like, a teenager. In rebirth when the girls ask how they look in their beachwear, his real voice accidentally slips out for just a moment. He was caught off guard lol.

I feel the same way. Just because a story is complex and convoluted doesn’t make it good/clever. Only reason I’m excited about pt 3 is the combat. If I were to play rebirth again I would completely ignore all the side content.

Yup thats what i wanted. Just the one Zack timelime. Was so excited. Then the multiverse deflated me

This is what happens when you give consoles an SSD. People forget what waiting over a minute in a loading screen was like.

@@JenovaGirzz Devs generally didn't make games that had so many quest completed/updated notifications back then either though. My complaint isn't about load time. It's about unnecessary pauses. If they don't utilize techs strengths (and limitations) appropriately, that's almost never a good thing. If you're trying to say those update locks are because of loading requirements, then that's an even worse standing for them lol.

yeah having to hear the world intel or quest completion jingle every single time gets old.

Some of this annoyed me too. But I will give the game credit for making it quicker to get on your chocobo than in ff16.

And those mog minigames, man sooo frustrating

He’s a tyrant!! He even soft locks the menu with his yapping

I even noticed that as other NPCs have binaural audio that faded as you walk away, Chadley's voice takes super long to fade out

I don't like how much Chadley is around in this. He's like the 10th party member that has everything you need to destroy anything in your wake but won't give it to you unless you go around doing tedious chores and errands, much like real life

Everytime I was in the simulator and wanted to change materia I gave up because you can’t talk to to him again until he finishes talking each single time you quit the simulator menu. I preferred struggling hours with the inadequate equipment than listening to him 😂

Even though I play board games in real life quite a bit, I usually do not like card minigames in video games. Even Witcher 3 Gwent was overhyped in my opinion. But Queens Blood worked for me big time, I loved it!

Devs legit made a Yu-Gi-Oh! level storyline for it and it’s good. Madlads

I wasn't in logic mode when I saw it, I was in shock, and was a little confused at first, but still saddened, only afterwards did I actually enter logic mode. I think I've cracked the code for what's going on in the ending, but we won't know for sure until Part 3, and also I think they're saving some of the stuff from that scene we didn't see/hear in Rebirth, but we did see in the OG, for Part 3.

This is why splitting to different parts is a really bad idea and just hurts more than it helps. Splitting it like this makes things confusing and convoluted with little to no answers, if it was a single seamless game we wouldn't have had this problem and the story would be much more coherent, it also doesn't help that the split makes the whole remake feels rushed.

@@TheCheeseMovesSideways The game would take forever to finish, take forever to release, and would be too big for consoles like this if it was just one game. And the split is actually more interesting because it opens up the possibility for MORE things to happen that didn't in the OG.

@@mariogirl8100 I didn't exactly say the split was awful but what i meant was the split hurts the story more than it does good. I know splitting it was necessary but still it doesn't really help much with the story imo

I know a lot of people were harping on the ending, but after rewatching it a few times… I’m honestly terrified for Cloud and loved it. Like it went from being bittersweet and a little sad to straight up dark as hell. At least if you consider the theory *its not Aerith* Game has small hiccups but overall an amazing game.

kinda hope Chadley call pickup is optional. so if we didn't pick up his call, he will send message for us to read it later. Just like in Yakuza.

Am I the only person that actually likes Chadley?

nah the ending rocked

Why is it needed? Red xiii's most endearing moments was with his older voice being a goofball. Things like the chicken quest and the boat appearance. His older voice would still work, he'd just be more vulnerable and naive. Which is kinda weird in the first place. Nanaki is the oldest party member. He's 48 in human years. You'd think he'd have some more life experience. He also biologically is a full grown beast. There are 16 year olds who have deep booming voices. I think biologically, Nanaki would have a deep voice still. Not sound a few octaves away from Simba.

@@blankempathy Hey I'm 22 male and I sound like a woman. I felt not thought, Felt that it was necessary. If you were to call me and I handed the phone to my mother or my aunt you could hardly tell a difference until Video call get pushed.

@@aaronammann4236 I mean of course it depends on a person's build and biology. You're probably not going to find too many 6'8" big dudes who have a high pitched voice. Considering Nanaki is the tankiest character next to Barret, he's probably biologically close to a lion or other big cat/mammel.

The only thing I liked about it was Barrette's response, otherwise it just turned him into a comedic side comment... I prefer him being mature or at least faking to be.

I like pickle btw

I mean, it's actually not that close to the first part. But I think you'll be happy anyways.

Have fun!! still at Chapter 12 atm.

Oof, yeah. The moogle designs were not pleasant.

@@projared no. They just stare into your souls. I hated it. Also as for the RedXiii in the next game and his point. The GI and black materia. He promised them (lying) to give them back the black materia. But also swore to the party he'd find another way to release them. That will be his point in the last game. I think

Who gave these moogles teeth 😬😬

⁠​⁠​⁠@@projared I know. I did not like the way the moogles design looked at all, they went from cute and adorable to shocking and disturbingly staring into one’s soul. Big oof indeed.

Oh yeah as someone who plays FFXIV, the Moogles are fucking horrifying. I know they were trying to emulate the OG FFVII design but… god no

100 % part one before part 2 or you'll be sad just trust

@CastorGaming pretty sure the WRITER of the game isn't Nomura, but Kazushige Nojima. Also Nomura wanted a 1:1 Remake, but the OG director and now producer of the game wanted some changes.

Nomura is the art director and character designer. He's not the director/project lead or the writer. He's actually never been credited with writing a single thing. I'm not sure why people blame him for everything. He's not the person in charge of these decisions ever.

​@Kriizikaan He's the creative director lol. His name is at the top of the credits for Remake and Rebirth. He's literally said in interviews that he is responsible for the overall direction of the game

@@shiny460 Overall direction? you forgot the Writer and Scenario: Kazushige Nojima, and the original director and now Producer who has the final say and the one who wanted the changes: Yoshinori Kitase.

I kinda see how people think it's fumbled. To me, Aerith's death falls kinda flat because right after beating the Jenova monster, you suddenly go back to the Edge of Creation I think, have a battle with Sephiroth, and then Zack joins, and then Sephiroth transforms into whatever the fuck that was, and then that thing jumps in between realities that Zack and the party have to fight it as well... All of that gets your attention and Aerith's death feels kinda like an afterthought. I definitely would've left the Zack and Sephiroth Reborn battle for the 3rd game. That final tag team between Cloud and Aerith was awesome though, so I would leave it there. I honestly liked the final fight, but it is waaaaay too much.

@@martinaguiluz4063 I agree with the pacing of the final fights, but I think they also didn't want to play it super straight because they don't want to make it too obvious what's going on with Cloud. Also fun fact: Nojima actually wrote 2 additional boss phases for the final boss gauntlet that got cut because it was already too long.

Can’t wait for Eiyuden Chronicles. The game we waited four years for!

finally someone gets it!

Exactly and well said, but to be fair the ending requires some time to process to truly appreciate it (much like with Remake's ending). Personally I was left very confused when I initially beat it (something they clearly want you to feel), and it took a few hours of digging through stuff to realize the incredible set up it made. Just hoping they stick the landing in part 3.

@@oEXTRA for sure I agree with that. I actually didn’t like it at first but you REALLY need to process it and think about the decisions they made and WHY they made them. Some people will like the post ending processing session and some people won’t. I totally get that

Yes! Like with Remake, you initially have this confusion to the ending but then things make sense the more you sit and chew on what happened. I really enjoyed the Spoiler Review talks with Max and Easy Allies because it of all the details I missed while watching. Small things like Tifa being dead silent, Cloud being the only person without a limit break, *THE MUSIC* that plays when everyone is mourning but Cloud sees Aerith! My biggest hope is that they really nail the northern crater. It’s going to be one of the most important parts for the next game.

The ending expects a lot of the audience and I love that sort of 'respect' it has for the audience in that way - not treating them like idiots and feeling the need to explain everything on the spot. There is a healthy amount of ambiguity and I hope in part 3 they don't go the way of over-explaining every single plot point (Kingdom Hearts 3). I was kind of neutral on the ending at first, but once you 'see through it' it just gets better and better every time I watch it.

you should, but if you play rebirth , there is a button at the start up menu that tells you the story

TECHNICALLY, no. But in terms of story you will be really confused. There’s just so much in Rebirth that builds from Remake. You could watch a story synopsis but Remake is a great game so I’d recommend playing if you can.

Open World was easily the worst part of this game imo, HOT TAKE! While Gongaga being the worst and wasn't and didn't need to be huge. Gongaga was not a big area in the OG and should've kept it that way.

Nojima you mean. Nomura is not the director or writer.

@@Kriizikaan Nomura was the creative director of Rebirth and is overseeing the whole project.

Yeah can't wait to mourn Aerith three years after the fact. If they wanted to make you feel like Cloud her death should've been way more ambigious so you'd have a 50:50 split in the fandom. Schrödingers Aerith so to say. Instead we all know she's dead but get zero closure when the Investment in her fate is at its peak. The moment got ruined in my eyes.

​@@TheLastDaysOfSorrow yes it will be impactful 3 years from now when they include it in clouds trauma dump section and will have a big pay off. This team did a great job paying off stuff in rebirth that was set up in remake. Dont understand how people can have the same doomer outlook they had after remake when theyve proven they know what they are doing story wise with this game. You just want the death to be the low point of this game when the focus is clearly set to be clouds decent into madness being fully realized

@@im1085 sorry but I'm not dooming on this game. I really enjoyed about 70-80% of it, I'd say. I wanted to feel something else than confusion and frustration when Aerith died though. Especially after they needlessly padded out the last stretch of the game like that. I get the artistic choice they made - if it truly was intentional - that doesn't change that it completely ruined the emotional high point of the game. I also really don't get where you think they paid off what they build up in Remake? Remake left with the big promise/warning to not take anything for granted and that things would change. 90% of this game is incredbly faithful to the original and only the last 2 hours are really tackling the "elephant in the room". And all they do is doubling down on the completely laissez faire nature of the storytelling, giving reddit more food for conspiracy theories while undermining every aspect of narrative causality. What even does anyones death mean when Cloud can just "see" other universes? How is Sephiroth supposed to be threatening when he shows up every 2 hours at the parking lot to give Cloud a knowing nod. And most importantly: what is the ruleset for the multiverse/rubber reality mechanic inside of this narrative? Multiverse storytelling CAN be super interesting and rewarding when it is operating in a strict framework of rules. I don't see this here at all. All we have are interpretations and conspiracy theories. I expected Aeriths death to be the moment where the whispers- and "defying fate" theme would culminate. It'd have been pretty ingenious because this way they actually made the player question whether she's going to die and introduce the chance that she might survive. They basically made her Schrödingers Cat and the moment you lift the box it turns out there's just another box under there and another box and another box and then a final box with the words "got ya, play the third game!" pinned to it. Personally for me the stakes in the trilogies story feel completely hollowed out by this ending. Nothing means anything when you introduce an untethered deus ex machina. The third game could have Cloud, Keanu Reeves and Jesus fighting Jenova enslaved uber drivers in New York City so everyone gets revived and they could somehow make it work with enough rubber reality relativism.

@@TheLastDaysOfSorrow You have a fundemental misunderstanding of the "multiverses" here. Cloud cant just see people in other universes. The Aerith at the end isnt just a different universe that cloud can see. Sephiroth isnt actually in 90% of the scenes you see him in because thats all clouds mind playing tricks on him. The other "universes" are just the dreams of the dead in the lifestream that Sephiroth manipulates now that he has some control over the lifestream and is using them to create negative emotions for the brief time they exist to empower himself by absorbing them once theyve run their course. Materia is made from the lifestream with memories of the dead so of course "world" could be made from those memories if it could be manipulated. Zach coming back is the work of a dead Aerith who through her praying to the ancients has gained some ability to manipulate the lifestream which was shown to a lesser degree in TOA. Nobody has been revived or brought back from the dead. TLDR you dont understand the concepts of the game enough to comment on them

Same. Which is a shame, because a ton of it IS this perfect dream of a remake.

I think most people that say this are overstimating a lot how good the OG story was. I am playing the og for the first time now, 32 hours in, close to the end. Yeah, the story IS pretty good, especially toward disc 2 (which remake and rebirth are just disc 1), but a lot of characters development are close to non existant or just when it is their region, after that they stay silent, mostly because you dont have a full party following you. The remake series do so MUCH MORE for chatacter development and for the world that it is insane. I meam costa del sol in the og was just.... some 3 boring screens, cosml canyon too. Amazing for that time I am sure about it, but not as good as in reamake series

@@abraaomitichon7868 I'm all on board for more inclusion and development, especially for character stuff. My issue is the core plot has a whole other layer of Kingdom Hearts-esque timeline nonsense that A) requires a deep familiarity with the original; and B) is used to justify retcons and twists that aren't satisfying for the sake of cheap drama. Things like mini games, further development of the story and characters, even major changes to the side or main stories are all perfectly acceptable, and probably necessary for a good remake, and tell the story better. The problem is that they instead chose to add a whole meta-narrative about fate and timelines and stuff, so the internal plot of the world takes a back seat. They introduce an alternate universe version of Zack where he survived, before his character and death were even introduced into the main story, which is supposed to be a twist reveal about Cloud's repressed memories. Cloud saved Aerith, but then the timeline changed and she's dead anyway, so why invest in any of Clouds actions or successes when it can be instantly undone for cheap drama?

That is a good point, but unraveling that all on top of literally 7 different multiverses and Zack stuff…. Was just too much…. No game ending should need a 45 min youtube vid to explain it

I had a different take -- I think his psyche is straddling two different realities. One in which Aerith lives, and one in which she dies. She obviously died in his "real" world, but if I had to guess, she'll interdimensionally travel from a doomed world to this one at some point in the 3rd game. Come to think of it, they did follow Zack's world in which Cloud and Aerith survived, so yeah, I bet they both hop into the different reality before the meteor hits their world.

There are way too many different theories already. I for one think that Cloud is seeing multiple realities overlapping, one where Aerith lives and another where she dies. Mostly because he sees meteor (from Zack's timeline) in the ending and all of the other characters don't.

​@ridderbanaan I think it's a mix of the 2. Cloud is insane and he's making it seem like Aerith is still alive but in the moment I believe Sephiroth succeeds and as soon as Cloud saves Aerith, one universe merges with another in which Sephiroth kills Aerith making Cloud's attempt pointless. Of course Cloud goes absolutely insane at that point. He just saved her but Sephiroth won anyways so he's actively rewriting his memories as the world's merge.

​@@gregbrown6921I think it's OK if an ending makes you figure out and sift through it. I wish the rest of the game parsed out the ending bits in a more concise way but the devs obviously threw it all at the end so you can figure it out by the time Part 3 comes out. It allows for the game to remain in conversation for a while after its release.

It’s in the game and takes up a massive portion… I guess the optional content can be as dogshit as it wants and as low effort as it wants since it’s optional.

Yes! Loved the gameplay and music, loathed the needless stuffing and plot changes. Fucking crappy side characters and PLOT GHOSTS

Thats exactly what the optional side content is in this game, same activities copy pasted from one area to the next, maybe a different mini-game injected into one of them but still essentially doing the same bloody thing over and over again. Actual character related side quests can be good but the open world related activities are all done in Ubisoft openworld game design philosophy in mind. It is so tedious and at one point I said screw it all and b-lined my way through the story and had much better time after that.

@@MaaZeus That is disappointing... They should have lessened them and just kept the good ones.

That feels like my problem with tears of the kingdom as well not just because of the koroks either

I agree. If they put a part one on PS4 and not the other parts that's just scummy

@@zeebooboo9663ps4 is old as fucking balls dude. It’s 11 years old in fact. Deal with it.

Ps4 is an outdated system they aren't making games for it anymore.

@@EvanFarshadow thing still runs on an HDD😭

the PS4 is 11 years old. This is the equivalent of wishing mid 2005 games had made it to PS1. You're gonna have to move on at some point, no one is gonna wait for you.

I was curious about doing all side quests in 0 then realized I’d actually have to learn how to play Shogi and Mahjong decently.