The Propel Ruckus Experience: From Scepticism to Skateboarding Bliss 🛹💡 

Hey Mike. I've got the propel pivot gt 2 in 1. And it seems I've got almost triple the range on my board with street wheels. When I put on my 150mm wheels. The resistance is alot. No free rolling at all. And I only get 37kms on a battery. Do you figure the belts are too tight? I was running at the recommended 25psi. (But had a flat already)

@@yohvhThe polyurethane wheels are going to give you the best range for sure but if you’re looking for sort of a hybrid in feel and range have a look at Iwonder’s Cloudwheels Rovers 110s. They offer a Propel kit that I personally have on my own Pivot. Comes with bearings, speed rings, pulleys, everything you need to get setup and it’s a nice in between spot between PU and pneumatics. Low center of gravity, decent free roll, but softer than our stock PU wheels and many PU wheels. You may also want to contact Mad and have a look at the Mad wheels. People rave about them and I’ve seen several of our Pivot owners buy them and love them also.

@@yohvh Nah, nothing to do with belts. 150mm wheels are pretty small therefore the motors have to work harder and therefore your top speed will suffer. I made that mistake and went right back to stock wheel size. (I believe they're 200mm)

yes sir. A lot of bang for your buck

Awesome Pivot GT is a fantastic board, Yea this location is awesome just quite busy on weekends with walkers and cyclists

Thank you sir

Hmmm honestly for me personally I’d have to pick the N3 purely based on Range.

Have you received yours yet? I’ve been waiting 3 weeks and now they aren’t even responding to emails. The website is still advertising order today and receive by Father’s Day. I’m not happy at all with them or the customer service. They haven’t responded to my emails and I’m about to dispute the charges on my credit card!!! 😢😢😢😢😢😢

@@dailylife6935 it took five days to get a reply. The site said shipping from US warehouse. They replied it's being shipped from China so expect 35-50 days!!!! I would NOT have ordered if I had known that I'm so fucking annoyed

I even told them I was annoyed. They didn't offer a refund or any sort of like "hey for your trouble we will send an extra pair of belts" or something along those lines. I'm mad because i would've saved up more money over the time period and bought a higher quality board. Instead of buying a $1600 board I'd have ended up with a $2500-$3000 board instead. Luckily I still have an OG Zealot that works fine but damn am I bummed. Waiting that long is just unacceptable these days. They should send the boards to the warehouse then say they're back in stock. When they aren't they should clearly label it's coming from China.

@@RelativelyAttractiveMan Thank you for helping me out. Yeah it said 3-7 business days when I ordered it. I expected it way before now. It’s kinda shitty. So I have to wait basically 2 months for my board? WTF. I’ll never do business with them again and I’m definitely going to tell everyone online about my experience. Thank you again!

@@RelativelyAttractiveMan Update: My board just came in today! Of course I’m glad to have it but I separated my shoulder a week and a half ago getting thrown from my long board at about 20mph:( This board is amazing! It’s going to take a bit to dial it in and I will definitely never go over 20mph since I just got hurt and now realize that I don’t bounce off the ground the way I did in my 20s especially since I’m pushing 50:0

I got to demo it at esk8con and me and everyone else that rode it was trying to buy the used demo board on the last day, and getting a firm no.

Thank you sir ! Haha i wondered if anyone would notice the progress bar 😂

Glad it was his helmet visor!

Yea super annoying just glad it was me and not the board 🤣 The worst was the Backfire Zealot that thing sounds like a train from the 1800s

Get the atlas while I do like this propel ruckus, mind you I dont have either of the 2 I've only heard and seen good things from the atlas. If I was to get any all terrain setup it would be the atlas.

Yea spot on, down by the dog beach,

Even as a member of the Propel team I can absolutely understand the sentiment and to be honest, some people have been saying our boards have been over-engineered since we launched more than half a decade ago now. 😂Our loyal owners, thankfully, feel differently. 😂 But you’re certainly not alone in feeling this way! We get it. Our chief engineer used to be a member of the engineering team at BMW. He’s been part of PEV teams that won a red dot award. He’s always thought differently and set ambitious goals for us. In the automotive world what’s considered “normal” now was once a strange and unique feature debuted by a single company first. We see ESK8 similarly. We were considered over-engineered by some when we first launched AWD and removable battery packs. We were considered over-engineered by some when we launched the Endeavor series 3.5 years ago with a monocoque frame with a removable deck on top of suspension angled in a way nobody had done on an ESK8 before. Now, others are selling a similar angled suspension approach with similar upper and lower control arm approaches. Multiple times, throughout our history, we have broken from convention and debuted ideas that our loyal owners have enjoyed, and then other brands have debuted similar ideas afterward. Somebody has to put the R&D spending into this business to stop it from remaining stagnant and stuck on copying ideas Boosted debuted long ago. We’re proud to be one of the brands committed to doing so. 😊 As far as engineering goes though it is important to note that Ruckus trucks can function like traditional channel trucks in many ways even if the damper was removed or somehow knocked clean off. This is also why we want people to get their bushings setup ideally first. So that the hydraulic damping is the bonus. Not the primary.

Yea it’s a theme I like to see brands attempting. In a world with everyone brand has: 50s cells, 6374 motors, 120a esc it’s the “how” that can help them stand out

​@mikemenard4543 you guys have brought the freshest air to the scene with this one. I love customizability and tuning option. This one is amazing in my opinion.

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Hi mate Steer clear of the wasp and the titan (both use poor quality metal) Both Ruckus and Endevor are nice boards What’s your budget ? And weight I’ll recommend some others

@@scottdaviesyoutube I wanted to keep it under 2k but I've really been leaning toward the gt gear drive which is just over that but not by much. I weigh 150lbs. Thanks for the fast response. I would appreciate any info that could help.

If price is not a factor and you’re waiting until next year you may be interested in waiting for the Ruckus GT which will be priced considerably higher than our $1499 Ruckus here but add one of our largest battery builds ever. The battery and range will be absolutely huge. Something to keep in mind.

Hmmmm it’s a tough one Both are very nice boards, The Ruckus can carve a little tighter and with its 12s4p is a bit lighter But the Nomad Elite has a lot more range and a fair bit more power off the line.

​@@mikemenard4543If your statement is true, I sure hope the deck's cooler system plays a large role too!

Scott might be asleep due to time zone differences but I can help explain some of the main differences from a technical perspective and perhaps Scott will share his own personal thoughts and preferences. The Pivot has FOC 2.0. FOC 3.0 on Ruckus is much improved in basically every way that matters. It’s our smoothest FOC ESC ever and I say that as someone who pushed ownership to add a second ESC to the Pivot line in part because I personally felt we should have it. You can adjust each of the 4 speed modes’a top speeds, acceleration curves, and current. You can control the amount the board decelerates when you let off the throttle. You can customize the colors of each of the 4 speed modes. We have a hall sensor switch over when anything abnormal is detected to reduce potential for any kind of esc error lock up. The Pivot has traditional double kingpin trucks. Great for carving and mobility. The Ruckus has channel trucks with hydraulic damping. These can provide DKP-like carving and precision but have improved trail ride characteristics due to being channel trucks. The hydraulic damping acts as both a safety feature when dialed in correctly to give you a tool to regain stability when a wobble first begins (it can’t stop a sway feeling or wobble trigger from terrain or human movement from occurring in the first place but is there to help you recover once one does) and to give you some fast change characteristics for specific ride scenarios you want to try and then switch back quickly via the dials. The Ruckus also has our next level of BVR flex. Pivot was gen 1 and was mostly focused on vibration reduction but Ruckus flex is much more dramatic to the extent of minor shock absorption properties. It’s closer to being in the middle of Endeavor shock absorption and Pivot vibration reduction. Ruckus has our latest remote with color screen, 30% more battery life and improved plastics and throttle response. Note: You can also buy this remote and pair it to your Pivot. The Pivot is more mobile to pick up and carry and also has a sleek, traditional unibody look and more wheel versatility. Including PU wheels. In conclusion, the Ruckus does share similarities in some carving and maneuverability and battery cell and configuration with our Pivot GT but it has several notable technological and deck features to it and the two boards are pretty different when you compare their various strengths and price differences.

​@@mikemenard4543will the pivots esc be upgraded to the standards of the ruckus? I heard that the pivots esc is the typical twitchy ling-yi esc like always. It would be nice to have the customizable setting on the pivot as well as the new remote that's on the ruckus.

@@daflip1500 The first Pivot launched with the racing ESC of FOC 2.0 and yeah it was still twitchy for some. Others loved it and compared it favorably to a turbo in. A car that once mastered was super fun. I had both and personally prefer the comfort esc release. It’s smoother than the first one was. At present the next board scheduled to get FOC 3.0 is the eventual Endeavor 3 GT as the top of the Endeavor line.

​@@mikemenard4543so the pivots esc is smoother ?

So its smoother now?​@@mikemenard4543

One of our key innovations within Channel truck design was our addition of a third bushing for increased turning precision. Some channel trucks have a sloppy large dead zone near their center point. In video game design the customization options for controllers has never been larger because advanced gamers want to be able to dial in their precision to their unique characteristics and preferences. ADT was made with a similar mindset.

Yea experimenting is key 🔑

Touch wood, Never ! Those paths are quite busy so never really a opportunity to settle for a sun bake 😂 🐍 🐍

Scott may not have but I have a few times . Luckily have seen from a distance . Don't want to run over then . If your wondering where the track from the big bike oval to Minnippie park . Twice near the driveway too the parking area .

Man I had drama after drama with that The production board will/ is great My pre production just keeps giving me issues Not QC just things that changed from mine to production boards

@@scottdaviesyoutube I saw the original video, so I know about your pre production board esc's cable attachments not being the same for the gear drive and mass production boards. I just thought Meepo would have at least loaned you a belt driven board that you could test the gear drive with by now (after removing the belt drive of course😉). The thing is all the good reviewers are gone. I got in during the peek in 2018 or so and almost everyone disappeared from regular testing by late 2022. Hardly anyone respectable are testing e-boards anymore.😔 Daniel Kwan pops his head up from time to time. I know Ronnie Sarmiento injured himself (not on an e-board) JohnPaulYT dropped off the face of the Earth over two years ago; your countryman Jay Boston is gone. Almost all the old familiar faces are gone. I guess other things in life caught up with them, or they burned out.You're one of the few left. ☹

@@arrow1414 yea Meepo did send me me a new esc but their cables were too long and it looked stupid and was not a true representation of the stock board, I will test their gear drive soon on the voyager X As for the old school reviewers, yea it’s sad they all dropped off / slowed down, the new batch are doing a good job (some of them) I just love making videos so much. Even when I try and slow down I get the itch to make content 😂 Thanks for watching and supporting all these years it’s been a long journey!!

👏 👏 🎂 thanks as always James !