Some guys probably know this, but, most don't, in countries such as Russia, Belarus and Ukraine that is the only way to play airsoft, 95% of all teams do an impersonation of some unit, e.i. DEA quick response unit, Nicaraguan piranhas, taliban and etc. They take it very seriously, people or teams that don't do impersonation are called "pokemons"))) thats why manufacturer companies like G&G, ICS and Krytak and many others are not popular for having wrong markings on the gun. Oh and one more thing, they call airsoft-strikeball. Little fun fact about airsoft in other countries)))) anywho, love your channel, very positive, tons of interesting content and info. Regards from Turkey via Azerbaijan))))
totiksilkway Do they have people in Russia (mainly people from the caucuses) dress in their traditional costumes (cherkesska, papakha, gaziri etc.) and play like that in a team of some sort? As I’m a circassian from the shapsug tribe (living in America though) and have always been curious about people airsofting like that.
honestly it's way better than here. here in italy it's rare that someone would do impression kits and who does it usually looked down for it or it's straight up called an inept dumbfuck
ive heard of guys in the military blaming airsofters and the civilian gun owner community at large for increased demand/back stock on certain items (plate carriers, camo clothes, boots). Ive always thought that was an issue with the manufacturer and not the consumer because they usually have separate sales lines for military/leo and civilian markets. if by chance they manufacturer doesn't then its not our fault or problem.
Military guys don't seem the brightest. Increase in market demand causes higher production volumes thus lowering the price for production. Everyone benefits.
@@SpectreDM And America is capitalist. If civilians and military are buying up military gear, the manufactures better step up their game on production. Classic supply and demand
This was problematic for me when I built a Vietnam War kit for a themed game at my local field. I started the day with belt and suspenders, 3 ammo pouches, 2 canteens, butt pack with spare clothes, E-tool, bandolier, M1 helmet... and slowly shed things from my belt as the day went on. By the end of the day, there was a pile of stuff at our designated FOB that was basically everything I had ditched from my kit, and all I had on my belt was two ammo pouches and the canteens.
I'll never ever go reenactment, cosplay route again, for that exact reason. I want something that can play airsoft well. That's all I need. I don't wanna cosplay some military unit. I once tried doing a early 90s US solider with Alice Belt PASGT armor and helmet. It sucked. I was so uncomfortable. This was before I was in the military myself. After that time, I never wanted to feel those levels of discomfort in a hobby again. Short carbine guns and a light setup are the way to go for me.
Concerning S.A.S loadout or any other SF units for that matter choose different for every mission as far as I know. This is something organizers ought to be mindful of in my opinion.
I have dumped a hell of a lot of money into complete World War 1 and 2 kits. One of the most difficult to build is my People's Republic of China WW2 kit, all of which is original aside from a few repairs I had to make to fabric.
I don't unfortunately. Haven't had an opportunity to use it yet, there isn't much demand for Second Sino-Japanese war reenactments in New Zealand and I'm not one for taking photos of myself.
The only true impression kit i would like to to is a WW2 US 82 Airborne impression , because they liberated my home town during Operation Market Garden , but i would use it for reinactment dont think i'd dare use it for airsoft.
About sizes, it seems to be the opposite for surplus stuff. I run a Soviet Afghan war kit, and you can always find Afghankas in sizes like 46-3 or 60-6, but it took me forever to find a 50-4. (The first number is height and the second is waist/chest size.)
Most of my loadouts are based on "Futurizing" existing forces. I have a 2030 Bundeswehr kit. I also, out of sheer boredom, developed a Martian Congressional Republic Navy marine loadout (not the Goliath armored ones.)
Joanna Corvinus once i built a russian merc kit with multicam pants and a ATACS FG combat shirt tan body armour olive green AK chest rig and a opscore helmet
The only con about my outfit is that I can't wear it outside without being charged with hate crimes. I don't see what's the problem with a nazi loadout?
Juice. I don't get why people always call the cops on me when I wear my loadout! It was an Isis vs USA game. I was on Isis and copied the bomb vest loadout. Geez, my neighbors were ready to "Explode" when they saw me hold a full metal GBB ak-47!
Juice. The nice thing about the German army is that there are very few swaitcas (I screw that up, I know) in the uniforms. Only if you are doing political uniforms/body guard would you have a arm band and others
To be fair, Historical loadouts are way more functional instead of contemporary impression loadouts. I'd advise stay away from the special forces type stuff, just start with a basic infantry type impression. Great video, by the way!
I have three primary loadouts. My main rn is US Army circa the late 80s/early 90s. Next is my modern German loadout, and third is my gopnik memelord loadout. I'm also working on a modern Russian loadout, but I can't be bothered to buy the stuff rn lol. I know everyone has a US army loadout, but everyone either has, like, Modern Multicam CoD heroman loudout, a Vietnam kit, or occasionally a WW2 kit. I have NEVER seen an 80s loadout in person, aside from mine, of course. And that really surprises me, because woodland/chocolate chip BDUs are dirt cheap, as is ALICE kit. And I just use an M16A1, with Scarface front end. So l naturally feel like a pretty special snowflake. Too bad it's like wearing an over in the summer lol. Also, I don't wear my US flag patch backwards, like the real Army does. I do plan on going into the Army after I get out of college, but I'm not in there yet, so I'm not doing it. As for the German loadout, I just like being different lol. I've gotten some flack, because I use an AUG, not a G36. Technically, German Spec Ops uses AUG, even though most people don't know that. It's just Flecktarn everything lol. It's all surplus, too. My gopnik loudout is just the woodland pants from my woodland BDUs, a grey sweatshirt, Adidas tracksuit top, balaclava, ushanka, and of course an AK.
Regarding impressions kits, more so for modern/current kits, since much of it is up to operator preference to what they use for the gear or is mission dictated, I've wondered why it is not as acceptable in terms of impression kits to stay in the spirit of what they actually do and build a kit that works for you in the same general parameters that the operators have to work in such as camo patterns or a few select pieces of kit.
Also as someone that was deployed and in the miltray i think it is important to consider that in the military that when it comes to gear we took what was issued if it was required for us to or if my sargent was going to yell at me if i didnt take it and if there was something on the market that worked better then what we issued we would totally use it. I'm just getting into the milsim and if you find something that works and is better then what is issued use it! Like as a wierd example we were issued iso mats i never used it cause i used a sleeping mat i got from a sporting goods place that worked way better then that dumb iso mat.
I agree with pretty much everything, I run a CPC and my gear is very similar to a Pararescue man's, except I run my team's camo and my PC is setup how I like it.
I do a late 1980s USMC FAST (Hell, you could even call it a DEA or USMS) loadout based off of a photo I caught of FAST in Panama utilizing a Colt SMG. I have a converted VFC Avalon that I've modified into the aforementioned gun. And while I'm all for people running how they want to, I find it a little problematic when people run a kit like a special forces loadout and don't take any liberties to make it comfortable for their using. I mean, as long as you're not slapping on farb to your kit, you shouldn't really have a problem with using period-correct items to make your kit easier to use for you. It sort of defeats the purpose of doing a Special Forces loadout but not wanting to modify it past what you've seen in pictures, you know, considering they're not exactly photogenic. tldr- pet peeve: people dont realize that compromise can exist within reason p.s. Panama FAST guy => scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/89f24ef3d25177eabeccfdd4eb44879e/5CD6EA44/t51.2885-15/e35/27574894_2090632357831478_6061331712409862144_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.cdninstagram.com&ig_cache_key=MTcwMjEzODcyMDg2NDc4MDc1MA%3D%3D.2
In September I wanted to do a PJ loadout but found it too restrictive because there was a lot of gear I wanted but wouldn't fit the impression. So I dropped the impression and just went my own way lol.
This vid is on point. I at the moment have at least three buffle bags full of gear,enough for 30people, ucp(mostly) multi,flecktarn,and usmc digi. Also uncomon/rarely seen stuff. I love the feel of finding gear at swap meets.
That's why I've decided to not go for impressions but instead go for an OpFor/East European Rebel/ Chechen Militia-direction since there are way too many dudes in Multicam Blufor SF-esque kits or RUSFOR kits and someone has to be the bad guys, you know? All you really need is a Chicom chest rig and an AK and you're good! :P
Can you make a video about military/sf veterans playing airsoft? I wonder what they think about it and how they see other players. Greetings from polandball.
I’m former navy, played with several other sailors back in VA, and the field we played on had members from all branches plus the coast guard and LEOs. We’d steam roll some CoDsofters then 5minutes later get rekt by legit SEALs. As long as you don’t take the game too seriously most veterans are indifferent, but if you’re rolling a spot on SEAL impression and walking into a quiktrip for a monster they’ll probably make fun of you.
john p.jones some guys in my platoon (Army Caisson) just started playing around VA, Ballahack has like every branch there makes for some really fun games
Wanted to do Marine Force Recon until I realized I just liked desert MARPAT/ green flightsuits with coyote plate carriers looked cool. Wanted to do Spetsnaz until I realized I just like how a GORKA suit looks. Wanted to do MARSOC until I realized I just liked M81 Woodland. The only impression that Ive been consistently working on has been the support class from Battlefield 4 (which a CIRAS with a bunch of M60 pouches is not the most practical thing for field games) and the only other one Im close to finishing is a black hawk down ranger (tho getting an m16a2 will be a pain). The only impression I could see myself doing in the future is a 1980s VBSS Force Recon loadout, surprisingly easy, its just USGI jungle boots, chocolate chip BDUs and a 1970s airforce survival vest, the only expensive part is the airdeck crew helmet.
Update if anyone was wondering on my battlefield 4 support class setup. Almost done, mostly just the helmet attachments and some auxiliary stuff like VIP lights. However the one thing I have never been able to find for sale anywhere is a Petzl Tactikka XP headlamp, much less one in tan. It doesn’t look like any other headlamp available and I’ve yet to find even a Chinese knockoff of it.
Chinese PLA kits are actually decently cheap, cheaper than a russian kit. You have to shop on Taobao, only thing that is difficult to find is a Type 97, I was lucky enough to get a type 97b. Could do Chinese PAP and use a basic M4 as photos of them using basic AR's have been seen.
I know this is an old video, but one point I think is important that I haven't seen any one say on any other videos. Real people in the actual military can buy and use gear that they have bought on their own. So just because you like a set up that isn't completely made from issues gear, doesn't mean it's now inaccurate, it just means it's inaccurate to the ISSUED gear.
Well, it's about fun and not as much as reenacting, isn't it? As a medieval reenactor I know how things get quite a expensive price for an item you simply NEED to have to be authentic but yet for airsoft I feel it simply is not necessary. Take the gear of most of rebel/insurgent/militia forces as an example. Sustaining yourself while supporting others on the field can really be way easier, simple and probably as effective in much simpler way than carrying whole USMC impersonator gear on your back. Also, we're talking about few days of game at it's maximum, not a whole guns blazing conquest where you actually need shotload of equipment due to manevuers or possible isolation.
a friend of mine want me to start airsofting and as i already got my paintball gear so my style is dark camo pants (south african railway police) and gray ore desert shirt and if its cold a heavy used distressed black old hoodie so i guess my style lies more to the desert/mercenery/post apocalyptic i think.
i do Siege cosplay and only recently i got into airsoft.. so i pretty much got everything close in terms of looks. Still skeptical about its performance on the site
I'm in the us army but for airsoft go for army ranger impression i don't wear the patchs cause i find it disrespectful cause i didn't earn them. I don't look down if someone who does. i only have a problem if said person tries the clam they earned them when the haven't i view it as stolen Valor. i do wear patches i wear what i have earned if i decide to wear patches.
Technically wearing patches that you did not learn in military service is federally legal. It goes the same for outfits that have name and rink. But I'm not a veteran I think it's ok on the airsoft field myself
My unit reenacts gulf war and earlier 82nd airborne living history and static displays. We wear patches, especially for the events with big veteran turnouts. We square away perfectly and they always appreciate it and feel honored. Patches really depend on what you're doing. Don't wear them out to McDonalds and don't have a trash uniform, it just looks disrespectful. I was in the military, but not the 82nd, I just represent it in a way that does them justice. Also, I look 20 years too young to have served in the conflicts we reenact (I'm in my 20s)
Maybe this is because I was blue water navy, but basically as long as you’re not claiming to be or have been in unit you, when you never were uniform, patches whatever.It’s a tribute to that unit. Didn’t earn it, don’t claim it.If you’re doing a real good SEAL load out good for you. Personally because I had the opportunity to be some of those guys if I wanted I just prefer to go with African bush war merc/PMC style type look...or at least that’s how I fancy it lol
If the current US army and navy went back to the height of the Roman Empire, with enough fuel, rations, and munition to Kee things running for a while, how long do you think it’d take for them to conquer the entire world? How many casualties could we expect?
I run a us army impression, is it the most practical? no the helmet weighs a ton along with the armor, which is hot here in florida, but then again if i just cared about effectiveness i would run an aeg with high caps and no chest rig or anything... so i find impressions to be just fun....
Patches:........Would it be the same argument if we used US and you use UK insignia. It introduces fresh argument. But, as you say, there are alternatives. Using morale patches and mock military offers more than enough. Having said that I was questioned on my first game by a Royal Marine due to my surplus UBACS with full colours. The clothing comes from the municipal tip, the lads at the barracks next door bin loads every week (location my secret!) Either way the Commando took me under his wing and taught me incredible stuff. (reckon he took pity on the elderly retiree with the lost look!!)
See, I dont do full, exact impression kits. I do loosey goosey impression kits. It looks the part and is as accurate as possible, but only had what I need. Also, I think the impression community is toxic as fuck. If you don't have real stuff, they look down on you. My kit is a mid 80s US Army Infantryman. The ALICE gear apart from the belt is original surplus. The woodland top is Croatian, but it's a direct copy of the US BDUs so I don't care. The pants are civilian. The helmet and cover are repro. I just tell people that I don't want it to be 100% accurate, and it never will be. Because I'm just not enough of a loser to dump 1000+ into it. I do it because it's fun, and it looks cool. Airsoft is basically just a fashion show where we shoot at each other.
Wanted to do MARSOC inpression, fell off the train just at the moment I bought 6094 in multicam..I saw just few guys running those.. And when they were running them the ran coyote brown.. 😂😂
My thoughts on the patches you were taking about. I'm a veteran from a very proud unit and when it comes to airsoft I don't wear any of my old units patches in my airsoft gear. But I have seen some players wear the unit patch. It's a coin toss I think. If your wearing you problem think the unit is cool and that's why you got it. If a vet ask you why are you wearing that tell him. But if you upset a veteran by wearing it than be respectful and take it off. Death from Above
I think it's perfectly fine as long as you're doing it as a cosplay replica Soldier theme and not trying to play like you are an actual veteran. When I play I use current Army ACU uniforms.
Well there is a field fairly near me that has WW2 days, I really want to build a kit for that, also I have a general interest in war history, so it would float 2 balls for me at the same time.
Real SF operators use their gear to accommodate what they feel is most convenient. Like number of mag pouches, how many pouches they have. Real SF guys also try to keep their plate carriers as light as possible. As long as someone uses the right camo, and same companies in the the actual SF gear list then you're fine.
Only Military uniforms that are "serialized".i.e. actual MILITARY use, the military can sell serialized gear to the different polices but they can pretty much whatever they find/buy, in fact 5.11 it's a top seller
impression load out…my real world gear that i wear everyday…real ballistc plates, rewal ballistic helmet, train like its real ...scaring the wife…old vet. Seal kit=playing in a black wetsuit with goggles and scubba tank/was very hot and hated it.
Jonathan Devora Here you go; JG m4 $110 Polarstar jack player kit $355 Dye I4 from HopUp $70 3000 psi tank $30 Then just wear clothes you already had lol. That's how I started.
I mean with the whole patch debate I don't see why you can't wear like a rangers tab with your impression kit as long as your not claiming the ranger title but at the sams time I can understand why a ranger would be pissed to see u wearing a ranger tab it's something they earned and had brothers die for its not unreasonable but I'd say just like if your going to do it make sure it's in like the celebration fashion yk like your celebrating this elite warrior unit and there accomplishments and sacrifice to out nation cuz like if your just wearing a unit patch for ur weekend skirmish I could see why it would piss a veteran off
I'm in the same boat Eric. I love looking to shots of active military for inspiration on gear layout and how they run things, but unless the event calls for an impression, I hate having my options limited to such a drastic degree. That and, if I'm going to be buying legit gear, it better double for use with real firearms on my part as well. Though maybe that's just me pinching pennies.
I like loose impressions. I purposefully don't do exact impressions, because almost every pic of every soldier is of that one particular soldier and his/her needs in that specific operation. I look at the standard issue gear, and wear as much of that as I need for airsoft. For example, I run a US Army Infantry Rifleman Circa 1989/90 impression kit. I have more or less everything, except the PASGT vest. Because that's a shitload of weight and a lot of heat for pretty much no advantage in airsoft. Yeah, I'll pass on that. Call me a poser or whatever. I'll be laughing when you have a heatstroke and I don't lol. Also, those people who get pissy at you for buying from greyshop are just losers lol.