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The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism - Max Weber 

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@Sunfried1
@Sunfried1 Год назад
Regarding your example of the Asian work ethic, keep in mind that countries like Japan and South Korea have been heavily influenced by Confucianism and its work ethic which is traditionally interpreted in terms of diligent loyalty toward one's superiors.
@Capellofficial
@Capellofficial 3 месяца назад
Great point!
@mrkappas6146
@mrkappas6146 4 года назад
Nice podcast, I have really enjoyed it thus far, but I would like to make an argument on the last segment regarding the persecution(3 last minutes of the episode). It is very dangerous to justify a persecution, even more dangerous to say that they brought it upon themselves.
@beenasfarastodecidetouseve6733
@beenasfarastodecidetouseve6733 3 года назад
I liked this podcast, but found this part funny. Imagine applying the same logic to the countless Jewish persecutions throughout history. With the same logic: "how could everyone who persecuted them be wrong? What are the chances! They brought it upon themselves." Don't get me wrong, I'm happy to discuss when particular groups DO bring persecution on themselves. But I doubt these two would speak so openly about any other group that isn't Christian.
@JoeyAfrika
@JoeyAfrika Год назад
Another great video! Getting through the myth is amerikkka series. Can yall please repost the video on the trilateral commission? That was one of the most powerful video on RU-vid! Anyway Peace yall
@RevolutionandIdeology
@RevolutionandIdeology Год назад
We can't. They keep taking it down. It's here if you want: odysee.com/@RevolutionAndIdeology:2/the-trilateral-commission-and-the-crisis:c
@JoeyAfrika
@JoeyAfrika Год назад
@@RevolutionandIdeology thanks for the link. Just shared it with about 5 people. I think the trilateral commision took the crisis of democracy PDF down
@RevolutionandIdeology
@RevolutionandIdeology Год назад
@@JoeyAfrika It's on the Internet Archive: ia800305.us.archive.org/29/items/TheCrisisOfDemocracy-TrilateralCommission-1975/crisis_of_democracy_text.pdf
@GarySmith-vi9fi
@GarySmith-vi9fi 3 года назад
This podcast seems takes a Revisionist historical view of all the issues. It appears to repeatedly interpret Calvin through the lens of those who would take the most carnal position rather than those who reasonably assess Calvin in line with Scripture. This podcast seems to assume the former were not only the most dominant but the only position worth discussing. But I would think the theology of the Sabbath in relation to the importance of "rest" would be a an important part of the Protestant work ethic and would balance the position presented here.
@RevolutionandIdeology
@RevolutionandIdeology 3 года назад
"This podcast" is merely discussing the ideas of Max Weber.
@captainzork6109
@captainzork6109 2 года назад
Good points, I think
@Shindler39
@Shindler39 Год назад
Great point, the theology of the Sabbath and the importance of the day of the Lord is part of calvinism.
@bungalowlogic7676
@bungalowlogic7676 9 месяцев назад
Just read the book. Weber mentions the publication of the Book of Sports in the 1630s by King James I and Charles I which made allowances for leisure activities on the Sabbath Sunday. Implied is that it was decreed maybe as antagonistic to the strict rules Calvinists adhered to.
@Goofy8907
@Goofy8907 5 месяцев назад
36:15 there are no goats for chickens as "money" Have you not read Graebar?
@ArmandoPineda-fc1wl
@ArmandoPineda-fc1wl 11 месяцев назад
Talk about the looting of catholic monasteries.
@dougknibbe7053
@dougknibbe7053 Год назад
Anyone who is prideful in association with the doctrine of election has missed the point. The beauty of capitalism is that you benefit by serving others.
@RevolutionandIdeology
@RevolutionandIdeology Год назад
What flavor?
@reachvictoria3386
@reachvictoria3386 3 года назад
The level at which you misrepresent Calvinism/Calvinists is almost shocking. But based on the agenda of this channel is hardly surprising.
@RevolutionandIdeology
@RevolutionandIdeology 3 года назад
Be mad at Weber.
@reachvictoria3386
@reachvictoria3386 3 года назад
@@RevolutionandIdeology right. Anyway, I don’t recall saying anything about being mad, but if that’s your takeaway, fine. Like I said, the misrepresentation was “almost shocking,” but not really shocking, all things considered. The first commented (deleted?) was likewise not really shocking. This one wasn’t really necessary or relevant.
@Moodboard39
@Moodboard39 10 месяцев назад
@@reachvictoria3386did he really or u just blaming
@Alex-zl5ht
@Alex-zl5ht 5 лет назад
0:00 prelude- Martin Luther ect. 16:10 Max Weber 17:50 economic traditionalism 19:40 economic rationalism 31:00 work 52:50- 53:40 Weber's parents 57:00 persecution? Calvinists
@Maxito1275
@Maxito1275 5 лет назад
I love you
@ashleywest7046
@ashleywest7046 2 года назад
Your amazing
@robertbergdahl
@robertbergdahl 9 месяцев назад
John Calvin held the inverse of capitalism. His view on usury would prohibit the rise of a commercial banking class and absolutely prohibited interest on loans to the poor, which would have been most of the working class population of all Europe. Capitalism rises from the civil nation state and empire, not the church. Nationalized greed not individual works of piety. Way too simplified theological history in this episode. Jesus cleansing the temple of moneychangers proves the theological point. Protecting the poor from the business class is required for the christian. Chicago School be damned! Frederick Nymeyer, John Calvin on Interest, Progressive Calvinism , vol. 3 (1957), 55.
@CBlade0
@CBlade0 2 года назад
Excellent episode to be sure. From breaking down his arguments, it really sounds like his conclusion is a series of inferences, not actually stated by leaders at the time in any way, or without sources.
@RevolutionandIdeology
@RevolutionandIdeology 2 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@Goofy8907
@Goofy8907 7 месяцев назад
For such a long episode, it would be been awesome if you initially explained what "selling indulgences" and "purgatory" even is I had to search to figure it out, which is fine But it would've been nice if it had been explained I did not at all know it was a thing It is truly crazy and again shows all the contradictions with hierarchical institutions as well as how their defenders are completely unaware of how messed up they are while blaming others Anyways, great episode once again
@waywardgeologist2520
@waywardgeologist2520 7 месяцев назад
50:13 because “you don’t work, you don’t eat.” As for the vacant house, it’s someone’s private property, not yours, not mine. If a person wants their own house let them do like I did build it with their own hands.
@JoeyAfrika
@JoeyAfrika Год назад
44:00 is everyone really a capitalist? Can you be a capitalist if you don't own the means of production?
@RevolutionandIdeology
@RevolutionandIdeology Год назад
Good philosophical question...though things have become more diffuse since Weber's days. The answer is complex (and thus one way capitalism perpetuates itself ideally).
@waywardgeologist2520
@waywardgeologist2520 7 месяцев назад
50:49 it isn’t. The question should be why are they homeless? They are in control of their own lives and what choices have they made? Probably bad ones.
@waywardgeologist2520
@waywardgeologist2520 7 месяцев назад
49:00 Jesus did it because it was being done in the Temple, God’s house, not specifically the act.
@waywardgeologist2520
@waywardgeologist2520 7 месяцев назад
49:35 strange left out China.
@ArmandoPineda-fc1wl
@ArmandoPineda-fc1wl 11 месяцев назад
Luther decentralized religion.
@bille6428
@bille6428 3 месяца назад
Just wish there were more commercials breaks
@RevolutionandIdeology
@RevolutionandIdeology 3 месяца назад
Lol.
@waywardgeologist2520
@waywardgeologist2520 7 месяцев назад
51:09 no, those who have certain things worked hard for them, spent time and personal energy to obtain things, practice frugality, and avoided destructive devices.
@JohnSmith-vm8rx
@JohnSmith-vm8rx Год назад
“Marxism teaches us that history is not meaningless. The present situation is not an expression of the madness or the inherent wickedness of men and women. The great philosopher Spinoza once said: “neither weep nor laugh, but understand!” That is very sound advice, for if we are not able to understand.” - Alan Woods, What is Marxism?
@ChicagoTurtle1
@ChicagoTurtle1 Год назад
Wait. First printing press was invented in Korea? It seems like even before that, it’s China or Sumer.
@PL-jm8ew
@PL-jm8ew Год назад
Wow, these guys have no understanding of Protestantism.
@Moodboard39
@Moodboard39 10 месяцев назад
Different topic
@09diz
@09diz 4 года назад
faith in currency is way older than the protestant movement.
@09diz
@09diz 4 года назад
i cant believe! you´re blaming vanity on calvinism? like it is some sort of a branch of it.
@09diz
@09diz 4 года назад
status is a biological pursue.
@RevolutionandIdeology
@RevolutionandIdeology 4 года назад
Good talk
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