The Psychology of Malignant Narcissists - People of the Lie 

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"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber barons' cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a hell of Earth. This very kindness stings with intorelable insult. To be "cured" against one's own will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals." The world of Demolition Man is run by malignant narcissists, where everything "bad for you" has been banned (or in the case of anybody who does not agree with this, has been forced underground). Not surprisingly, in real life almost all of these people that are trying to force similar "utopias" on the rest of us, are malignant narcissists incapable of seeing themselves as anything other than morally superior perfect human beings.

All of Western world, Middle East, etc. Corporations, governments, religions, including news/media/entertainment industries. Realize those celebrities famous or not all artists/musicians/actors/producers/directors/etc including religious leaders are these kind of people. #israel #palestine

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those are some big noses in the thumbnail, good job

I wonder if it was always like this?

Perhaps. It has been chronicled throughout history, during declines in empire especially. If so, one could wonder of the nature of the world in permitting the ascendancy of such psychopathological maligancy. Was and is this world purposed as an acid test that temporarily rewards broken narcissistic souls, only to be eternally condemned in the afterlife; as many religious beliefs posit? Perhaps again it is a cyclic pheonmeon, with narcissism coming to the fore during times of societal collapse, wherein constructive and decidedly virtueous actions become increasing more scarce and self-deification is engendered alongside technological advancement and displaced feelings of invunerability. @@sailingaeolus

@@sailingaeolus No it wasn't. The weak (narcissists) have inherited the earth.

The system is working precisely as intended. It rewards narcissistic psychopaths bc it was made by them for their benefit...

You are wrong. That the system is not foisted upon us. We are part of the building of these systems, either through action or inaction. Non-narcissists are 90% of the population, we have the power (over time) to change the systems but most of us are happier to drink beer and watch Netflix than fight for better systems.

Right. That's part of why Good ... Decent, Honest ... People tend to not do evil stuff: We know that we will always be caught and punished ... by ourselves. We never think in terms of "Nobody will ever know if do/did some bad thing." We will know ... and we know it. Good Note! ~TD, Boston

None are good

There is something critical missing from your analysis, I think. Evil needs to be healed. It flows from a wound that is being hidden and denied.

@@thenatureofnurture6336 Or else, if & when the wound is healed, all the foul, evil smelling puss and whatnot will at last cease to flow from the breach. I get what You're saying. At least, I think I do. Good Comment! ~TD, Boston

nice profile pic

Good advice. I usually leave or object when some one talks trash when the person isn't around to defend themselves.

@@akidodogstar5460 Leaving the situation is the smartest thing one can do. Don't object because there's a high chance you're dealing with a narcissist and objecting will just make you their next target. Don't try to reason with a narcissist - they are unable to understand.

Politicians

The second part is almost everybody, I bet even you.

@@akidodogstar5460 I go and tell the person who they were talking about.

1000% opened my eyes to see/recognize who im dealing with-

Me too. It’s a life changer

Same. But I think this is actually simultaneously more damaging for the general population. One it's incredibly unnerving the amount of dehumanizing language used against them and the scapegoating behaviour they engage with is now pervasive in all our society. 2. The implication of people being unfixable is a double whammy. BPD was this same concept and had the same unfixable stigma just a few decades ago. I'm not sure adding to that is the appropriate solution. It'll just tear society down more. OFC everyone Ironically is less interested in fixing them, or fixing themselves for why they are attracted to them, and more so just have severe contempt, it's an endless cycle back and forth I've found reading everything and learning about it all.

I agree 100%

And most are spiritually dead. They are actively hunting for the woke people. Not the ones with friends. The ones who blows the dog whistle on all of their sex acts against humanity. They don't like their real identity being exposed. They can get any new victims if the producers know they been sick.

100 % true

😢I agree this is why Black Americans should continue to pursue Slavery Reparations. The spirit still suffers TODAY

​@@CPT_Pepperslavery ended in the United States almost 200 years ago. The idea of reparations today is peddled by power-hungry scammers.

Narcissism is an adaptive trait in this culture... We become more and more like NPD every year.

Exactly. The U.S. is probably the worst of all!

.... unfortunately I feel that you are right but fortunately by you making a statement and me commenting on it show that we are not part of this even though we are surrounded by it❤❤❤

@@Flame-Bright-Cheer We are definitely a minority right now, but history shows us we always were and likely always will be. Best course of action is non-action. Don't involve yourself in their affairs. Stay away from them. People don't change because someone stood up to them or convinced them of anything. IF people change, they usually come to the conclusion on their own and perhaps with some form of divine intervention. Simply put, fear not, fret not. Let your light shine, but dim it before the profane. There's nothing darkness hates more than light... and violently so.

@@ryanpoe9791 Does a Narcissist leader manipulate the gullible masses ? Or does a Narcissistic leader give the masses exactly what they subconsciously lust for? This is not just a modern illness. When the crowd is given a choice to free Jesus the son of God or Barabbas the murderer the crowd shouts Barabbas.

They're literally everywhere now. Lol.

You normally meet them as your boss, your spouse or your parent(s) which makes distancing difficult or impossible, at least in the short term.

That’s because Narcissism is now a gender.

Jordan Peterson calls them Energy Vampires - which describes them perfectly. They only take and never give, so that is why it's so exhausting to be around them.

My relationship with a narcissist, and the subsequent education I got, as I was pointed in the right direction, toughened me up. Nowadays I could not care less about what someone calls me or might think about me. I know who I am, and that is all that matters.

Absolutely they are everywhere and they can't survive without us

Are you a woman? Cos I've seen a lot of dads that are way harsher on their sons than their daughters!

@@VishruthKumar.my mom kicked me out my dad took me in I thought our relationship will evolve I thought wrong the living household situation is worse yes dads are much more harsher

@@VishruthKumar. That's the americanized male. They pamper the female and use and discard the son. Female grows up and produces that inferior male. The cycle repeats. The Founding Fathers (the ancient Greeks) explored this and broke that cycle. It took hundreds of years for Father Nature to perfect this system. Since the "great enlightenment and the u.s.a., All of this is deteriorating.

psychopaths lack the ability to feel empathy but they are most often not predators.

@@allstarwatt7246 Nitpicking is one of the greatest logical fallacies.

@@allstarwatt7246lack of empathy for the pain they inflict but they have great empathy for reading others emotional states

Narcissists are also predators. They lay traps, they dress like lambs and talk like lambs to blend in with lambs, they will mimic their prey to make it feel comfortable.

Yup!!! Cowards

People in insane asylums usually are there due to issues beyond their control like schizophrenia or severe bipolar 1, schizo affective, brain trauma, etc. People who are in cluster B are usually in regular prisons or are politicians, businessmen, etc. the difference usually comes from their level of intelligence and money which keep them from jail.

I believe it. Being a psychopath doesn't necessarily mean you've done something to end up behind bars. My own brother is a narcissistic psychopath and I had to cut ties with him. He has no reason to be in a mental hospital or prison, but he's still got those character traits.

@@MyNextShotWontMiss Whatever you do don’t fall for someone who is like that. It will ruin you. They are the epitome of fake and callous.

Politicians, Religious Leaders, Police, CEOs, Billionaires. They have 4 to 10 times the dopamine in their brains than normal people, and they crave Social Dominance and Coercive Control like an addiction. It means they gravitate to the positions of power and authority like moths to the flame.

My ex and her mom and dad are narcissists they are some of the most evil people I’ve ever met the two faced kind nice to your face while planning your demise the hole time doing horrible things and not caring one bit hurting myself and children without remorse it’s a sad sickness I believe it’s spiritual and it’s generational

Don't jump to conclusions yet. There is a gross overrepresentation of Psychopaths in the corporate world, politics, etc. Narcissism and Psychopathy don't exclude one another. More often than not they come in a package together...

Even non-corporate businesses. I worked for a series of 'self made millionaires' whose self worship was a torrent wider than the Amazon.

Malignant narcissists are actually psychopaths.

HR

They are psychopaths

what an exhausting life he must've lead!

No kidding 😕

My adopted sister is molded from the same template. She destroyed a few lives and is forced to rewrite the aftermath, manipulating other’s perceptions with no regard to the dead or living.

Same with mine

That's not narcissism... Bro literally 100% of people did that up until maybe the 1960s when having manners, being presentable, and managing your image went out of style. Literally even the poorest people would manage other's perception by wearing suits, and not describing their problems to others. Now that seems like narcissism because it's become to commonplace to not have any tact or grace.

Floating to the surface like pieces of shit on water... yepyour right!

Alot of sheeple are obsessed by mobile phones,money,Internet, computers.

I always say the best and worst thing that has became popular in my generation (80-90’s kid) was the internet.🛜

It can be an accelerant, but no one is exempt from "the sickness". Including yourself.

It's like the Jerry Springer show. Ahha

Sounds exactly like my kids mother

That is one of the reasons these people are so dangerous. They are so much more deceptive because of that mixture of truth and lies. And they do whatever works for their own advantage, even if it destroys another.

The best liars, the really dangerous ones take the truth and twist it just a little. So that it is not an obvious lie but something much more difficult to glean. But that was beautifully put to consider it all a poison.

Oh, I didn't know your were familiar with my mother lol Like. To a T.

@@user-gh9sm5dr8g Yes, hiding behind technicalities and literalisms.

It definitely is a way of thinking and I have seen it in groups, clubs, religion and job positions. It is a power struggle

More precisely, social media teaches narcissistic behaviors. Once adopted by normal self-conscious people, they develop cognitive dissonance because those behaviors go against the empathic person they are at their core.

Cultural homogenisation: remove belonging, promote narcissism and hedonism: maximise profits and compliance

That is an excellent point!!

I came across a video about New Age type stuff and they were talking about "NPCs" in the real world. I couldn't believe what I was hearing and the insane levels of narcissism it would take to actually believe a human being is an NPC in a simulation that you are the main character of.

The Kol Nidre.

It has always existed, just more disordered people who beget more disordered people.

I agree

WE LIVE IN A VERY SICK SOCIETY!! THE INTERNET HAS MADE THE MAJORITY OF SOCIETY OBSESSED WITH SELF!!🙂

Religions = politics = economy All of Western world, Middle East, etc. Corporations, governments, religions, including news/media/entertainment industries. Realize those celebrities famous or not all artists/musicians/actors/producers/directors/etc including religious leaders are these kind of people. #israel #palestine

​@@Aurora-uq5hm legalize psychedelics. Lsd has helped me deal with that a little. I still got much work, but I used to be very lost.

Agreed! It has been socially engineered from the top down.

And you know what they say about all that's required for evil to succeed...

That mimicking play is getting revealed. People didn't know they were supporting terrorism. It was just for fun and the image awards.

Cowards

Jews

@@HeyMykeeis for good men to do nothing.

Agreed. A great book that I came upon just when I needed the clarity it provided. Excellent book.

Thanks for sharing. Added to my list ✨

I still remember the story of parents with two boys, one shot himself, and the following Christmas the parents gave the other son the shotgun as a Christmas present. Dr Peck was horrified, he arranged for the poor boy to live with a kind aunt, and luckily, the boy was saved and got better. And the parents? They played innocent and ignorant: What boy wouldn't like such an expensive gift? I am still horrified. Still get goosebumps at the level of evil coming from these parents. That book is my Nr 1 book ever.

@@sissi8610 Wow, that is so cruel. Why would they do something like that. Did they want him to use it on himself too? How old was the boy?

I don't have the book anymore. From memory the boy was a teenager. Maybe 15? But I still remember Dr Peck asking the parents to come in for a talk. When he asked them, after a stunned silence, if it was another gun, or the same as the one used in the suicide, the parents said, same one. But they played stupid, and were quite clever at making excuses. But their trickery wasn't successful with Dr Peck. He retaliated, and basically rescued that boy out of the clutches of evil. The boy was covered in sores, from picking on himself. And after he lived with a kind aunt, those skin wounds healed, I guess he stopped "picking" on himself so much. I do understand such hidden, deceitful evil, my father was one of them. That's why I know it exists.

I hear you and I feel your pain. Been there myself Mother, siblings, two husbands and a fiance. It is a hard path and one where we have to acknowledge our traits and weaknesses and allow ourselves to heal. Blessings to you

God was the ultimate narcissist.

Unfortunately we figure it out too late in life

Society is cult like. Just look at the insanity of mainstream behavior.

That is how they, as I too understand, propagate their kind... Power for sake of power takes no prisoners and leaves who they consider 'the weak' in the dust. Pure evil. They never remove their masks.

I’m not sure if you meant physically or psychologically, or maybe both. Regardless, sorry to hear of your experience, don’t give up on the human race because you’ve been damaged by one.❤

Dont seek the good in others for hope, let yourself be the proof you need. If you are good, surely you can't be the only one. This is how i carry on.

There's still good people out here hun

@@nicholecornes1915 🎯Exactly! Never make the mistake to put all people in one pot.

You're older than 20 sweetie.

Which one?

@@unknowninfinium4353. People of the Lie by M. Scott Peck.

@@unknowninfinium4353 Probably referring to M. Scott Peck's "The People Of The Lie." The book is valuable, but it was published in 1983, 40 years ago. We are still awakening to the severity of pathology that results from trauma in childhood. Two quite revealing books about being human are "The Myth Of Sanity," by Martha Stout, and "The Body Remembers," by Babette Rothschild. Sam Vaknin, online, is exceptionally insightful regarding these issues.

Guessing People of The Lie

"People of the lie" by Scott Peck. Read it in the '90's. Difficult read bc of the examples of his practise with difficult children and their families. Guess what- there is no Evil children! Only grown ups that mess up and ruin childrens lifes.

That flat out IS the narcissist, they rally everyone against you , (they are ALL gas lighters ) they sabotage you at every opportunity and claim it's all a mistake or misunderstanding, and if you prove their dishonesty they change into the victim of your "hatred" by you, who have always plotted against them in the background. The psychopath on the other hand comes right at you themselves to destroy you.

The reason they're drawn to this state is because the state has the Monopoly on violence.

Reminds me of Nurse Ratchet from One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest

Using the state is violence

They ARE extremely violent. They shred peoples souls. A person with a broken arm has a clear and recognisable physical injury. A person with a mental, internal, emotional psychological injury is not recognised. There is a massive difference between mental illness and mental injury. Mental illness, such as someone with a personality disorder like a narcissist versus a mental injury in an otherwise healthy human being whom has been destroyed internally and now carries a psychological injury. Of course if that mental injury isn't attended to it can become an illness just like a untreated physical wound can develop sepsis or gangrene. Psychopaths, Sociopaths, Narcissists, Borderlines, Dark Triads can cause such life changing damage in a very short amount of time and there is NO protection in the law. Bullying is a lower form of non physical violent abuse that has lead people to suicide. Yet if the victim of bullying would smack the bully in the head with physical violence, that victim will end up in jail. And here's the kicker, the salt in the wound; that bullys injury, broken nose, cut lip whatever will be healed in a few days. But the scars, emotional trauma from being bullied may never heal and is completely invisible to everyone. And to top it off if society would say that bully deserved the smack down, the F**KING bullying would stop!!!

Yes, I hate our species.

Same here, Just be alone safer🙏🙏

@@chondominguez6995 How did you get to this place? Serious question

@@kimlarso it’s the stupid that they speak. A lot of people create their own drama. I find it very distracting. I’m trying to survive just like everyone else. I just end up losing focus. I’m often alone. That’s my preference. Last man on Earth type of existence.

R D Laing's books are also of great value, two of them in particular - 'The Divided Self,' & 'Sanity, Madness and the Family.' I, too, have never forgotten M. Scott Peck's book, 'People of the Lie.' I especially remember his piece about the parents of a son who had committed suicide with a shotgun; they proceeded to give said shotgun to another son as a Christmas present. It's one of the saddest, most chilling books I have ever read.

I totally belive it! I just got out of a narcissistic relationship, and I can definitely tell I I picked up on some traits. Doing my best to heal and self reflect.

Basically yeh.

Well even empathy has been weaponized when it’s used as a justification to reject truth…

@@casusolivas I could see that

How can you empathise with those you deem evil? I think this whole concept of “evil” needs to stop being flung around so loosely to begin with. If I put myself in the shoes of one of these kinds of narcissists, the things that I am doing which intuitively (and correctly) appears harmful for these “evil” people I have scapegoated, is actually an act of kindness, a gift channelled through me as a kind of holistic karma for their wrong-doing. This is the kind of mentality which seems to me to be a rationalising machine when an individual, whom isn’t psychopathic, willingly hurts somebody else. It’s as if there’s this scale of bad and good in their head, and for everyone else who doesn’t remind the narcissist of themselves, the scale is tilted towards “bad” as a default- for if they are not the same as the narcissist, then they clearly are not perfect. So no, I don’t believe it’s as simple as “empathy vs no empathy”- people with the ability to empathise don’t always do it as it takes up so much conscious energy, and those who do it rarely may still be extremely good at it. But what happens when empathy is used to serve their shadow, rather than to facilitate wellbeing in all the people engaged in that psychological contact?

Degrees. Not an either/or.

My sisters. My anger rages at their evil

Yes girl,channel the righteous anger into a powerful life force to protect and nourish yourself and create the best bull💩 detector you could’ve ever imagined. Hating what is evil keeps your own evil in check and inspires commitment to the truth and love 🙏🏻 I also thing we should educate the young ones in our life about the dark tactics of a narc. If feels like a duty of care at this point.

And you say this with CAPS 😂

They were just jealous. You were brilliant. I never even thought of that.

Black Sabbath or The Misfits? Or the film Summer of Sam?

Maybe the best book in all of America's history. Only Moby dick comes close (that book also has a narcissist or two in it).

That book was an experience for sure. 👍 The fact hits name is "Judge" always made me feel sick.

Yeah blinded by ignorance .

@@Pdrock2001Oh, the Judge is not ignorant. He is a very learned..."man", or whatever he is, in every possible field; per the book he "excels in shooting, languages, horsemanship, dancing, music, drawing, diplomacy, science and anything else he seems to put his mind to". But that's part and parcel of it. He pursues knowledge because he feels it gives him control, not because it's useful in its own sake.

Great book

I'm probably off base, but these people you call narcissists may also be pushing zest into life. For example I will play the fool, or the "heel", devil's advocate, clown, whatever just to stimulate people. And I'm not even an extrovert craving reaction, just fairly indifferent to others' validation while believing people of my pampered corner of the world need struggles in life. It's debate and dilemmas in good sport, though some fear my motive is to put them down.

No, I am talking about people who steal, lie, manipulate, no empathy kind of people. I like to have fun in life too but not at the expense of others. I think it all comes down to intent. If someone's intent is to hurt someone, that is not fun, that is evil @@pong9000

@taylorpresley4604, so you are saying you were the outcast in a family or narcissistic personalities, but if you are wearing the badge of honor, then I'm assuming you were fighting against becoming a narcissistic personality, then how did you end up with friends who were the same as your family, you have to have known that they were the same type of personality, I see people saying the same things about friends or relatives etc, so why didn't you avoid that in making friends, just Curious

Taylor Presley 4604 There's a saying that no good deed goes unpunished ! That said the Narcissist goes for the strong Person , the caring , loving , bright achievers ? Not the weak , you should be proud ? Imagine walking on stilts and looking down on others ! You would feel unsafe ! That's your narcissist ? Their empty and devoid of spirituality and goodness ! Wrapped up in self and money ? Which is never enough for them it's just insatiable ? There's no happiness in them because they loath themselves underneath ? Feigning they love themselves and this takes a great amount of energy And lacking empathy themselves cannot see others as humans who have emotions and feelings ? These are certainly the devils Children ? Of this I have no doubt ! Their dangerous People

I did not know the correlation between my friends and family until it was too late. Codependents are attracted to the familiar and we have a tendency to ignore red flags but I am much wiser now and much less needy @@Billnam691

What’s the truth?

Yes as step one, it irritates you and kick your ass, then maybe as step two...one can settle down with it. (makes you free)

First you are down - but then it is like a black shadow will be away. It gets better with time. Full acceptance is the key (and also the part which you have into that whole thing...).

@@Aisatsana1971National Socialism

@@-Swamp_Donkey- 👁️👁️

CEOs, and POLITICIANS top this list.

I’d worry more about the people that make laws to control your life than the people that provide jobs to other people

Yep, we as a society REWARD these behaviors, nice guys finish last.

' They' in the collective religious cults and instututions and 'societies' such as the Anglo/American... Pilgrim Society media deepstate,metastases.

@@akidodogstar5460 “nice guys” finish last because of being losers trying to please everyone, ending up not taking any risks or doing anything of value. That’s not a society issue

This is an interesting point.

Im starting to lose that empathy people don't deserve it.

@@sovereignsister I just noticed your name. I love it!

Constant injury in childhood more often produces the narcissistic traits. People don’t like to hear this but empathy created by constant childhood injury is also an affected and soulless trauma response. It’s not the “good” side of the coin. Those types of people are used and manipulated to cause UNTOLD damage to society. Coming into balance and alignment with truth is the way to health.

@@mkayokay3192 That's not with everyone I admit when I'm wrong but I'm stubborn and if I hold a view no one can change it but me. I do get intrusive thoughts but I don't take them seriously.

Yep, while the narcissism of the Right has currently become so obvious, the far Left is by no means 'immune' to the lure of 'Moral Narcissism'... aka, how your actions make you feel about _yourself,_ instead of in terms of their consequences for _others._

Claiming tolerance while being utterly intolerant...etc

The creator is very articulate, indeed. ❤

Your welcome kid

I share that feeling dude. Same feeling

It's called trauma bonding. Narcissists will give you all the attention and admiration they need to get you hooked. Once that's accomplished you will be utilised for their needs only. The bond has been created. When they see or sense your hesitancy, another round of ego building will happen. "oh you're the best, I couldn't do this with out you" etc and so forth.

One of the main reason why people in general feels attracted to narcissistic individuals is because we still need to know who is God and how his traits are. The more you know God the less you're at risk of being put under the "spell" of narcissistic behaviors.

I think that you can apply the same thinking to knowing oneself. If one knows and oneself well, and loves themself with all their quirks, faults, gifts and talents, one is less likely to seek praise or refuge in the words or actions of another. Enjoy the day! @@RAFITAESTRADITA​

“We know why they hate us, we speak truth, justice and Royal obligations”

Try writing it alone so when they invade your privacy, set up their cameras, track your whereabouts, and IP address, and use their office AI mutts to see if that's your writing style they can know that it is you. Wire taps get snipped. Write it over and over so those assigned to watch you know you are talking about them. That way they stay up all night with you as they read their love letters they were so desperate for.

Propaganda and censorship - tools of all narcissistic regimes since time began.

Spoken like someone who has never directly said NO to a psychopath - and suffered the relentless shocking outcome of doing so.

She's not a psychopath. She's a narcissist. There is a difference. There is an argument she is Dark Triad, but the need for excessive admiration, the grandiosity, the entitlement and so on points to narcissism, When she stepped down, it was evident, very clear she was being forced to say what she said by her handlers. It was evident in her pauses, her micro expressions of disgust and many other instances that she wasn't burnt out. In short they embarrassed her on the world stage. That is a massive blow to a narcissists ego! A psychopath would not have cared, as they knew their next position. Adern is out of the spotlight now, a massive blow for a grandiose narcissist no longer the darling of the media and the people. Trump: high functioning sociopath. Hillary Clinton: FULL BLOWN PSYCHOPATH. Justin Trudeau high functioning narcissist. Whinnie the Pooh Ping: (China) Dark Triad. Putin: Dark Triad. Obama: High functioning narcissist bordering on psychopathic tendancies. Daniel Andrews: Dark Triad with high levels of narcissism. AOC: Borderline Personality Disorder I could go on and on with world leaders.

@@KarmasAbutch Victim blaming well done. Your IQ must be off the charts. When are you going to understand it's all rigged? We ELECT politicians but we don't get to SELECT politicians. What are you doing about the psychopathic LBGT agenda? What are you doing about the climate crazed cult? Well? Are you saying no??? Left wing, right wing, same coin and there is a higher form of government utilising that coin. WAKE UP.

Yes that woman is a narcissist alright. She proclaimed herself as the one source of truth didn't she? All while she enacted evil sanctions against her own people who had refused the bio weapons 💉

Professor Sam Vaknin is the person to follow on this... He will give you an in depth understanding, not just a surface level one

So if you consider these behaviors as a mental illness, what does that say about us as a society, since we handsomely reward these behaviors with money and power?

@akidodogstar5460 it says that exactly the people with those behaviors built this society and benefitted generations of the same, as they developed this power structure. Essentially, narcissists started it and psychopaths came in for the win

@@MattAngiono They didn't build it, they just took over the hard work of others via parasitism and deception, the same way they have always done.

You mean on a pedestal? I'm not trying to correct i genuinely don't know

@@GamerGod_99 Not at all ,ill correct.

Does your sin cause the deaths of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions....even one person? I believe we shouldn't confuse self righteousness with those that practice quiet introspection to improve themselves being observed as good and the wish for others to do good and offering advice or suggestions based on experience.

I found the practice of self-righteousness very apparent in the Catholic church growing up. Families coming to church on Sundays and holidays, pretending to be the best version of themselves, all the while they were sleeping around, abusing their children, alcoholics, etc. As I got older the hypocrisy was too much to handle.

SIN! WTF!

Buddy I hate to break it to you but having or feeling like you have narcissistic parents is nothing new

Lmaaoo yeah no shit, i never said it was dfid i 🤣🤣@@Skim_beeble7125

That's tough. It may feel like a reflex reaction whenever you're confronted. Stop, breath in through the nose, long and hard, then breathe through the mouth. Listen to what the other person has to say. Don't make excuses, paraphrase back what the person said. Check whether there is more they would like to add. Then notice how, miraculously, you're still alive. Then think about how you would feel if the tables were turned and tell the person that. Then feel it. But really, you must have some therapy, and I don't mean six weeks of it.

You can do better, but it isn't going to be easy... it'll be constant work for the rest of your life.

I have full faith in you!

If you are actually a narcissist it’s VASTLY more likely that you hope to learn how to manipulate people more convincingly now that so many people are aware of narcissism than how to be “a better person”.

​@@hmfogptditfThe truth comes out in the end, and with enough scrutiny towards one's own public appearance and careful consideration of the repercussions of supposedly 'hidden' antisocial behavior, things may come full circle and our narcissistic friend here may well enough become passable. Granted, we also must understand who we're dealing with here and realize that there are limitations to his insight that may thwart his progress, and likewise have enough patience to not hold him in perpetual suspicion - do that with literally anyone and you're certain to find a character trait or two that is "evil".

Sounds like my sister. She knows she’s screwed without my dad’s financial support.

You guys both sound pretty gay

@-Swamp_Donkey- word! At least I don't have a NAMBLA account like you do. You're probably all kinds of excited that shit libs call you people MAPs now! You're almost part of the alphabet mafia.

@-Swamp_Donkey- HA! No, I will not accept your hidden offer. Stay with your NAMBLA group. You walk them on leashes and lock them in your basement, don't you? Yyyyyyyuck!

naw wemon are the real narcs, not men these days, you were prolly overpowering the situation as wemon always do, and refuse to admit any wrong doing by yourself, you are the narc

This is my sister. We share our parents’ home. I’m waiting for God’s judgement & vengeance on her.

@@SunnyWithNoChanceOfRainit’s healthier to get a job and find another place to live.

Stay safe - one killed my husband!

@@fairliescott3073omg this scared me, my partner’s brother is like this, how did this happen to your husband?

I'm their dream girl. A real plush toy to poke at. It funny.

What is truth u only believe what your told

Who were you before and after?

I would dearly love to see my ex wife get mentally evaluated, she's demonic.

My ex was the same. Life destroyed... luckily I didn't marry him, he made me believe I wasn't wife material 🙄

Anyone diagnosed with a personality disorder from A,B,C is going to have a mix of triats or even comorbid of a personality disorders in the same or other categories.

That’s a malignant narcissist. Incarnation of pure evil.

@@aijazsiddique8713 - Oh indeed he is. Learned that after the MMPI was done. They’re diabolical.

Not true.. Your statement is because you're stuck inside your own box your entire life not a complete multiracial not multilingual never been living around the world all alone since childhood

Less new than you might think. Much of what we’re going through now was predicted by writers in the 1950s.

@@elementaryabuse-chan5763 agree, I’ve almost finished Rape of the mind, that’s an overall good dive into modern man right there.

Did the same for my best friend , gave her access to my house/food/life, gave her anything she needed, helped her so much and in all this time she was slowly poisoning my food until I became a vegetable, is a miracle that I've survived...

Jews

RACIST ​@@-Swamp_Donkey-

While prostituting their own funky ass. The audacity is real. But got the nerve to call itself a professional.

And military

And the federal government. I’ve never met such evil people in my life. It’s absolutely shocking and soul crushing.

The truth is mate, these people were already toxic to begin with. It's the normalising of this behaviour that has emboldened these people, especially women, to behave in such toxic entitled ways. Then add to the fact women have a safety net in nearly all aspects of society, the courts, the police, the workplace they need never look inward and consider just how sh**ty they are as people. This sort of attitude and destructive behaviour is not only lauded but actively encouraged. Women do not take accountability. Anger, for example is a perfectly healthy and normal emotion that every human being experiences, especially when we find injustice perpetrated. Yet if you display even healthy anger toward a woman in the work place, firm voice, clear boundaries, matching facial expressions, they will run to HR and say you were being aggressive. Nah, bish aggressive is me grabbing your neck and slamming your head through the plaster board wall.

That's usually the only conversation the simps engage In. They can't talk and the prostitutes talk nonstop about the same things. It's a idiot conversation that goes nowhere but to a dark room to hide the evidence of working nonstop.

Why? they did not give you enough pocket money? did not buy you a new bike?

My mother is a narcissist and sadly it seems i've adopted some of her traits (the ego centrism and toxicity for example). Now i am trying to get rid of these bad traits by actively observing my behaviour and with meta cognition. How about you? Did you adopt some their traits? It took until adulthood until i realized that she's a narc, i was blind to it being so close to her. Because generally people don't tell children: "your mother is a narcissist"...you have to figure that out yourself and doing the research yourself...it's tough...

@@romany8125 You dont even know! First wait till he explains it and dont judge to early.

@@A_Stoic still waiting... the suspense is killing me.

@@mr.nobody2244 Exact. Same. Boat. Once I discovered what narc even is and did deep-dives on the topic sooo much anger I carried around evaporated. It's all about maintaining now.

they deny, deny, deny and with much rage turn the blame on you! they don't stop there! they'll bring up things to throw in your face (from the past to the present), remind you how others hate you (lies) and then gossip to other family members about you. funny thing is, is that they do this regardless but anything new seems to excite them and they'll take the opportunity to murder you verbally once more. DON"T DO IT! you'll end up mentally and emotionally drained and second-guessing yourself. you'll be filled with rage for days which will manifest into physical ailments such as migraines, stomachaches, etc. keep your distance from these types (i have a mom and sister like this) as they will destroy you if you don't!

Omg, never ever expose a narcissist! I have done it on multiple occasions thinking I was exposing darkness and it has costs me just about everything but my life.

Been there done that; nearly been destroyed

No it doesn't. It happens in and at every level of society regardless of your labels.

This Is true. They love to switch records so the healthy can appear crazy when they go to demon court. That's why they love tech and their government jobs. Can't tell them No. But God Is doing a new thing. They will love it. Everything together ❤️

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Omg you described it so well. I used to describe it in terms of energy. Like negative energy and positive energy. Malignant narcissism is negative energy and they feed on our positive energy. When you enter their negative energy field you can sense some discomfort.

Do you have a sense of self? If so, you're not NPD. They don't have one. We are all tending more towards narcissism these days in this society because it's advantageous. But you don't have to be... Look up Professor Sam Vaknin for the best info on the issue

I like the way you've personalised a broader universal truth rooted in a lack of identity. This is the result of the decades-long culture wars, facilitated and accelerated by the digital age and cultural homogenisation. When someone doesn't have a deeper sense of commonality, what is left?

what does that mean, to have a sense of self? @@MattAngiono​

@@Em-mr6wu to have a coherent understanding of who you are... Traits, characteristics, etc. Narcissists lack this. That's why they can seem to be different people depending on the situation. We all have some variation depending on the situation, but we still have core values, beliefs, patterns of action, etc

@user-ot9es1vv5b it's interesting that individualism has resulted in so many fewer people having a true sense of self... We need BOTH community and identity. Now, it seems most of us still argue like these are exclusive of each other... It's pretty f*ed!

Sounds like nonsense to me, but I may be misunderstanding this quote. People are alive inside- even those who may bore you do so for a fascinating reason, it’s just up to you to reach out and engage psychologically with them on a deeper level. People, in my experience, generally cannot wait for somebody to reach their hand out to invite them to perform the much needed self disclosure of how they *truly* feel.

I agree there is nothing necessarily wrong with someone if they are boring or less open. What Gurdjieff is warning the reader is not to assume everyone has the same state of consciousness as yourself. Put it this way do people come into this world with a Soul or do people come into this world to develop a Soul. @@Aisatsana1971

@@Aisatsana1971 They are biologically "alive" but soul dead. Non player characters.

@@reesedaniel5835 again, i think this is nonsense.

Yo, me too

@@ottomusprime5028 Nice. Care to chat and share ideas?

Do you follow Professor Sam Vaknin? You really must if you don't want to fall into poor understanding of narcissism... The internet is riddled with bad takes

@MattAngiono Yes. I am familiar with both his book and YT channel. He has quite a handle on the subject.

That's why u don't act nice when u meet them big mistake, come off genuine so then they either accept u, wanna save you or run away. When u put on the nice person act they try to poke holes in it subconciously once they find a hole confirms there belief that there betrayed nd the person is rlly evil and then in turn they want to punish you for the betrayal

@@frcomet5009 Yeah because apparently they think if someone is nice, they have to be nice forever by default or be punished.

@@clintonalver2715 that's 100 percent it they have an unrealistic fantasy of a person who gives them what they want whenever they want. Nd alot of guys nd some girls when they first meet someone put on that act, but as time goes on u grow tired of it because that's not ur real personality. Nd u feel like ok bet I got this person I can get comfortable. Nd so when the mask slips they feel tricked nd get extremely defensive bcuz in there mind LOVE is someone who is basically like there magical genie, it's never good to make a girl FALL in love with you. Even though that's what men think they want. But when she's IN LOVE with you it means you entertained her to much to often. Now her expectations are high and she will expect even more out of you to stay in love. If u stop performing she will start falling out of love nd become resentful/ vengful. When u fake who u are due to fear of losing the person or being disliked by your peers ur dancing with dragons. Just a matter of time before it burns you.

​@@frcomet5009Dancing with Dragons. I like that. In my day, we called it "Holding a Tiger by the Tail." One slip, and you're dead. ~TD, Boston

@@tdesq.2463 I like that I never heard that before ever with all the knowledge I have. Thank you for sharing that Ima start using that one.

Enough with the "privatio boni". Your metaphysics is one-sided and divorced from reality.

"Goodness" by itself has no meaning or value without its polar opposite "evil", and vice-versa. It's yin-yang.