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The Pyramid to Heaven | Lee Strobel 

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@Pamsgarden213
@Pamsgarden213 Месяц назад
Thank you!
@jojojo3411
@jojojo3411 Месяц назад
That so super clear. Thank you and God bless you Lee!🙏🏼
@flaminggmonkeyss
@flaminggmonkeyss Месяц назад
great message it was very interesting
@Someonebrew
@Someonebrew Месяц назад
Great message reminded me of cliff
@brandyrichmond5687
@brandyrichmond5687 Месяц назад
How can I join a life group online with saddleback church?
@kathysimonton516
@kathysimonton516 Месяц назад
He’s talking about the governments don’t want to tell us that Jesus Christ is coming 😅
@Someonebrew
@Someonebrew Месяц назад
So can i not watch online? Its kind of my only way
@kathysimonton516
@kathysimonton516 Месяц назад
Don Perkins gods abode Rick Warren if I could teach you one thing why god made you Lil Wayne Eminem drop the world song lil Wayne says I know what they don’t want to tell you 😅 At 1:52 I think 🤔 he’s talking about the governments don’t want to tell us all that Jesus Christ is coming back home soon 😅rossy mule my friend Ryan on RU-vid 😅
@kathysimonton516
@kathysimonton516 Месяц назад
Yes Jesus Christ is coming back home soon Nf oh lord Dax eturnaty Flame start over Big daddy weave I know 😅 Rossy mule my friend Ryan on RU-vid l Lil Wayne Eminem drop the world 🌎 lil Wayne says at 1:52 I know what they don’t want to tell you just hope ur heaven sent and he ll proff
@mtdouthit1291
@mtdouthit1291 Месяц назад
Habermas at 32:38
@wingzero7316
@wingzero7316 Месяц назад
I would believe in God any God and Religion if there was actually evidence. I been an atheist majority of my life but an uneducated none believer when I was younger who didn’t know anything about science and evidence against Religions/Gods especially Christianity. In 2004 age 19 I was going through a deep depression and I was given Lee Strobel books from deeply religious uncle. I fell for Christian apologetics and creationism because I didn’t know any better. Wasn’t until I researched science and counter apologetics for the first time i realived apologetics are liars. Lee Strobel and others like him lie for money, their arguments reinforced there no evidence for Christianity. Lee Strobel and other like minded apologetics use bible as evidence for the Bible, like the eye witness to Jesus resurrection, empty tomb and etc. with no evidence outside the bible supporting it. Even the exact location of Jesus tomb hasn’t been discovered, Church of the Holy Sepulchre, Talpiot Tomb, Roza Bal, The Garden Tomb, Kirisuto no haka, are popular beliefs of tomb location with no solid evidence for resurrection from any tomb. There are suicide cults like Havens Gate who castrated male members as a requirement to join. Most people in cult died from intentionally drinking poison for a lie (Doctrine) they deeply sincerely believed in, even the cult leader Marshall Applewhite believed what he preached, he suffered from mental illness. There other suicide cults to. Also none of the gospel writers were actual friends of Jesus, they were written in Greek decades even a century later as is the case of Gospel of John. Writers are anonymous who used the names of Jesus friends, wrote down the oral stories about Jesus, which was common among the minority of literate people/Christians at time period. There was a lot of different gospels written. I recommend you read Bart D Ehrman books to learn much more in-depth factual information. Even if they were eyewitness of Jesus resurrection, there are people alive today who claimed to have seen, big foot, fairies, space aliens and etc. if you unwilling to dedicate your life to people you can talk to today, why dedicate your life to claims of people who lived thousands of years ago? The old testament ancient Jews and modern day Muslims sacrifice animals to the Abrahamic God, God wants animal sacrifices which seems stereotypical satanic ritualistic. Was God unable to have come up with better options than animal sacrifices, maybe God has limitations which contradict with Gods attributes I get into later. Reasons for animal sacrifices is due to repentance for original sin caused by Adam and Eve bringing sin into the world which makes no sense. God created Adam and Eve without the knowledge of good and evil aka right, and wrong much like a baby understanding. God supposed to be all knowing, all powerful and perfect somehow expected adults with a baby like comprehension of right and wrong to obey him and not eat the forbidden fruit in which God created and placed in their midts (garden of eden). It like if parents placed a poisonous plant into theirs babies play pen and get angry their baby didn’t listen to them about not eating poison plant. Such parents deserve to spend rest of their lives in prison. Christianity is self refuting, Jesus and God supposedly one and the same, therefore God cannot be all powerful, all knowing, all loving, forgiving and perfect because God has limitations by not being able to just forgive humanity, instead God went through all the trouble of turning himself into a human in order to sacrifice (human sacrifice) himself to himself to please himself which we told is why Christians don’t have to commit animal sacrifices. God committed genocide, Noah flood, killing first born in Egypt including children, Sodom and Gomorrah and etc. In both old and new testaments are contradictory on lots of things example slavery. A lot of passages support slavery and some can be interpreted against it, no biblical laws clearly against owning humans as property. There no scripture in bible supporting democracy nor mention of anything similar to democracy, USA founding was a product of the secular age of enlightenment, a lot of the founding fathers were not even Christians example Thomas Jefferson was a Deist, read his Jefferson Bible. No scripture clearly supports child labor laws, no scripture supports women equal rights, No scripture clearly against child marriage in which was common around the world including in Christian majority countries for grown men to marry female children. I can go on and on. Your God probably doesn’t exist and your religion is bullshit. The bible doesn’t have timeless morality it a product of the time period it was written in and the good morals in bible are nothing special, majority of societies and religions around the world have laws against murder, it not unique to Abraham religions and predates them, it a natural survival instinct to not want to live in a society with rampant murders. Religion are all man made and humanity needs to move away from and all other dogmatism to including political dogma, communism, fascism and etc.
@everton131199
@everton131199 Месяц назад
Hello, I'm not Native American (Brazilian if you want to know) I'm using Google Translate so I apologize in advance. You said a lot of things so I don't intend to argue about each one, I think your heart is honest in some statements so I'm willing to argue. Thinking that God agrees with you is really bold, thinking that modern culture is correct and that god should be a democrat, supporting feminism among other things seems a little incoherent to me. I think he is the wisest being in existence (try to think about this God for a second, ok, even if you don't agree). How would he think? He knows all things, why do his decisions have to be democratic and morally accepted by the 21st century? Another point of your argument: You are completely discarding the fact that God began the work of surrender 6000 years ago, in another culture (which by the way was not democratic at all), the bible begins 3500 years ago with the Hebrews who has very different customs and traditions from the 21st century, Jesus comes 2000 years ago in a very different culture. (ok I think you already understood my point right?). Now within your argument, there are democrats and feminists who are horrible people, the title of democrat does not make them better people, just as the title of Christian does not make anyone better, it is what you do or don't do that shows who you are . Having said all this, if you've come this far, God doesn't need you just as the water doesn't need the fish, the water extends its grace to all the fish but if some fish insist on jumping out of the water, is the water condemnable for that? However, we thank God that our water insists on reaching us and rescuing our hearts back to the water (I hope Google translated this parable well) To conclude, God IS! Love, but never forget, God IS! fair. (For philosophical purposes only... God is what he is, and it's not up to us to say what he has to be). As for the God who has sold you, I apologize in the name of Jesus Christ but truly, I tell you, the truth will set you free, seek and find, knock and you will be answered, open your heart and the holy spirit will fill you with the truest wisdom that comes from the heavens.
@wingzero7316
@wingzero7316 Месяц назад
@@everton131199 i never said democrat, i said Democracy. I brought up women rights, if you don't believe in women rights you proving my point, bible doesn't support women rights
@everton131199
@everton131199 Месяц назад
Oh, sorry, I think in the USA, a Democrat means something else. In Brazil, it is someone who supports democracy. As for women, there are several texts that support women. That was not my point. My point is that you are reading the Bible with the eyes of the 21st century. I particularly like the judge and prophetess Deborah, who was basically the second authority at the time. First God, then came the judge, basically the spokesperson for God on earth at that time. In other words, a woman as the maximum authority instituted by God, and yes, she had a husband. You can find more about her in Judges chapters 4 and 5.
@everton131199
@everton131199 Месяц назад
Hello again, I don’t think anyone is really bothered by the phrase “I apologize in the name of Jesus Christ,” but in Portuguese, it can sound like Jesus Himself owes someone an apology, which is not the case. What I’m trying to convey is that I am acknowledging the harm Christians have caused wigzero, and I am apologizing on behalf of the Christians who have hurt him, in accordance with the teachings of Jesus Christ. To clarify, when I say “according to the person of Jesus,” I mean: knowing Christ and His words; and by recognizing the person of Jesus Christ, walking according to His teachings. Declaring “in the name of Jesus” is akin to acting as Jesus would and making the decisions he would make. I hope this explanation is clearer. (I used chatGPT now)
@ReachingHandsuganda
@ReachingHandsuganda Месяц назад
Thank you!!
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