1970 Documentary by Australian journalist John Pilger with interviews with disillusioned Vietnam conscript soldiers - part 1 part 1 - • The Quiet Mutiny (1970... part 2 - • The Quiet Mutiny (1970... part 3 - • The Quiet Mutiny (1970...
Agreed... It wasn't the fault of the soldiers... We never should have been there, but during that time, "we" actually trusted and believed our government... now we know better.
The Vietnam war was an illegal and immoral war . The Vietnamese didn’t want to be a French colony or an American satellite either . They wanted an independent nation .
It’s sad because there was a just cause as South Vietnam doesn’t exist anymore. Can you imagine if North Korea successfully took over South Korea? Many South Vietnamese fled to America after the war but I’m sure most would prefer to live in a South Vietnam.
Sure it's real, Adrian A. You shoot to survive, simple as that. Kill or be killed, just like the law of the jungle -- eat or be eaten, same thing applies. They want to kill you and you want to survive, and when you are frightened and think you're going to die, you WILL shoot to stay alive!
@@saucejohnson9862 North Viet Nam was going into the south and wantonly killing people right and left, backed by large communist countries. The NVA brainwashed the South Vietnamese people abused them, killed them, the ARVN had little experience that would counter the North’s military strength. An American input was clearly needed. JFK was the one who initiated our involvement in that war. He was concerned about communist Cuba and didn't want to see communist nations grow and spread to other countries.
I was in the infantry in Vietnam, 71-72. When I came home to the USA and got married, my wife put a stop to me eating cold beans directly out of the can. She civilized me by making me remove the beans from the can and heat them up in a pot on the stove before eating them. To this day, I still spread tons of mustard and hot peppers on my hamburgs and sandwiches. People who were in the field (down range or bush) will know what I'm talking about.
And your point really is....?? You shouldn't have been in Vietnam in the first place and writing BS comments about beans. I resisted the Draft in 1970 b/c I saw the utter foolishness of that war that year. Where was your head at in 71-72? Dreaming about eating beans out of a can?
I was 16 in '70....watching this thing come closer and closer to me from age 9, watching dead Marines piled on tailgates of APCs during dinnertime, watching the endless stream of bags and boxes coming home, waiting for the end, waiting for my number to come up in the draft, watching LBJ with " a heavy heart" committing 60,000 more to a war that could never be won, fueled by the lies of Robert McNamara, waiting for this government to retrieve its soul from the fucking gutter which to this day has never happened.
@@70stunes71 not just politicians, let's bea bit more specific.: Who denied covid's existence for 7 months? Who promoted nonsense cures for covid? Who promoted anti-vaccine information? Who claimed the election was stolen? Who claimed there would be a wall at the southern border? Who tried to overthrow the government January 6th? Who smeared shit on the walls of the Capitol building? Who started the Obama birther conspiracy? Who claimed China would pay tariffs? (they DON'T) Who wanted tariffs on "Canadian cars"? (Name one). Who has been denying climate change? WHO is driving the division you rightfully speak of?
You're foolish. Military people follow orders. Lay the blame at the intellectual inability of LBJ & RM + their micromanagement of the military. Military generals warned JFK, then LBJ to not get involved in a land war in Asia, dating back to JFK's gaining POTUS! JFK put the U.S.A. in RVN, JFK authorized the assassination of Diem (then JFK was himself killed 21 days later). So LBJ took over and RM, Sect. of Defense, played LBJ like a fiddle.
The politicians. Evil demons from hell. Their sons didn't die in vietnam they all ended up in the National Guard. A two hour meeting once a month and two week at summer camp. There it is.
My Dad was a LIFER… had 12 years in when he was wounded on his second tour with 5th Group , II Corp Mike Force, 1968. Retired in in 1985 with 29 years , 25 years on Airborne status, 20 years in Special Forces. So there’s lifers and then there’s LIFERS, there is a difference.
Roger Davies: You are not the first one to utter those words, but it's been that way in ALL Wars, from the very first one. But, the more advanced our scientific technology progresses, the more damage our war equipment and ordnance will do. No country with any sense at all wants a nuclear war. The older leaders see that but the younger leaders do not. Hopefully they won't have to learn the hard way. (E.g., we could wipe out the whole country of North Korea with one simple bomb. And getting into a bunker 300' below earth will NOT stop our penetrating weapons of today.) Never push America into a war, for they will be sorry! Russia and China realize that, but the smaller communist countries don't seem to realize that. NK's KJ-u is very young for a leader, impetuous and daring, but it could be his undoing!)
I pulled my tour in 70 around the La Drang valley. I ran guns in Black Horse Air Helos. We ran missions everyday and were fired on everyday. I could really walk those 50s. Wild days. Nobody misses the rounds going close by or the shrapnel wounds but man flying and fighting was the $$$$. Don.t know how I made it. Only shot down once but we made it back to the LZ we had just dropped in and crashed there. Not injured and with a squad, pretty lucky.
I left Vietnam September 1969; the wheels were coming off; Drugs were use; racial tensions were at the boiling point; America's military was the closest to Anarchy that I ever saw.
Mr. Combs, in your opinion, what ended the war? Was it pressure brought to bear on politicians or was it the non-willingness of the soldiers, finally, to fight?
"Your" report about "the wheels coming off" was repeated by many. I ran a gauntlet of returned friends and vets I did not know telling me that I did not want to be involved with the ARMY and Vietnam, and I had a choice since the draft just ended. Final lecture came from a just returned US Air Force MP, he convinced me, and got me a job the next day.
Robby Combs WOW THAT HAD TO BE SCARY. BUT I'M POSITIVE THAT YOU WERE THE KIND OF MAN THAT NEVER EVEN THOUGHT OF PEOPLE AS THIS OR THAT. MY HAT OF TO YOU. AND I APPLAUD YOUR SERVICE AND ABSOLUTE GIANT OF A STANCE ON SPEAKING THE TRUTH. PEACE AND PROSPERITY TO YOU AND YOURS MY FRIEND.
I was there in 1966 and 1967. The animosity wasn't as harsh then. There was still hope. Hope that it would end soon. The drug abuse, the morbid hopelessness, that came a little later when it all lasted all too long.
Absolutely correct. What I heard in 66-67 was the joke "Sorry about that, chief." In 1970 what I heard wasn't a joke but a sad answer to any complaint: "There it is."
Wandering Soul was one of the most effective psy ops psychological operations of the war and warfare in general. It was designed specifically to use vietnamese traditions to create a conflict: Communist ideology (atheist) vs traditional Buddhist and others beliefs. That caused friction with political commissars,a true Communist wouldn't be unsettled by superstition ,get it? some stalinist brutal political correction then you have really disgruntled soldiers,baby...Modern psy ops do similar against Islamists.
Wandering Soul in addition played(not a pun) on high casualties (aerial bombardment & MACV SOG raids) suffered by NVA units coming South through the "Ho Chi Minh Trail" network of roads and trails from North Vietnam thru the Laotian and Cambodian border with South Vietnam...then some more at the hands of US ARVN ANZAC ROK firepower.
Hard to believe it will be 50 years this August 2019 since I arrived at Cam Ranh Bay. Just hours before I arrived, the 6th Convalescent Hospital at Cam Ranh Bay had been attacked by sappers. Aaaah, the memories. The first time I seen a porno movie. The first time I smoked a joint and many other firsts. I was an innocent, green, wholesome boy from the cornfields of Iowa when I landed. Not so innocent, green and wholesome when I left.
Thank you for your service. I worked under two Vietnam Vets in my life. They were my bosses and you better believe I did everything they told me to do. Number 1 I did and still do respect them for their service. But they would kick your ass real quick if you argued with them. -Civilian.
Something you should know: "John Richard Pilger is an Australian journalist, writer, and documentary filmmaker. He has been mainly based in Britain since 1962. Pilger is a strong critic of American, Australian, and British foreign policy, which he considers to be driven by an imperialist agenda. Wikipedia"
in country 9/66-4/68, started to reenlist until i saw our replacements.nope im goin home,then i found out how that would effect the rest of my life.i pray for my brothers!
Vietnam war was a very strange one. Kind of a changing gear of History. T'was my generation war and I as a Brazilian boy just could stare at the TV and think about all that great nonsense. It deeply affected me .
@@chucknasty8090MacNamara tried to get Brazilian government involved in the Vietnam War cause that many casualties were high and I think he was right. Fighting Communism is our duty too. I would be glad to go and take my time for at the end Liberty is for us to keep.
When I was a Freshman in High School in 1970 my neighbor friend and I used to get a ride home from his cousin who was a Senior. That May day when we got into Rudy's car after school he was broken down crying. He was a tough, athletic kid and we asked him "what's the matter?" Well, he had gone home for Lunch and in the Mail was his Draft Notice. 2 Weeks later Rudy graduated and by Christmas of '70 he was in Vietnam. That day in Rudy's sweet Roadrunner was a wake up call to us "boys" that we were soon to be "men"... SO Young those Soldiers were that we sent to Vietnam.
I guess for what we had to endure as grunts I was extremely fortunate. My platoon leader had done a tour as a grunt, went back home, went to officers candidate school, came back as our platoon leader. I remember when his 6month tour in the field was done he refused to go to the rear. Said he preferred to be with us. He knew what the hell was going on, and deflected all kinds of bullshit away from us. Hell of a good lt. We bitched about being there, but there was nothing we could do about it so we just did the best we could.
The united Vietnamese economy stagnated after 1975 until some guy by the name Doi Moi instituted capitalist free market reforms in 1986, and their economy took off like a rocket. If the North Vietnamese had not fixated on "communism", if they had said "We want to unify Vietnam as a democracy" - hell, the U.S. probably would have shipped them a billion in foreign aid, and there would have been no war with millions of lives lost. Once again, yet again, it is "communism" that is to blame.
@@davesmith5656 Actually, the NVC went to us first. They wanted a capitalist democracy, but we told them to go screw themselves because we supported their French colonizers. Because the only guys they could get help from in kicking out the French guys running their country were the goddamn communists, communism is what they ended up with.
@@davesmith5656 Ho Chi Minh tried for several years to democratize Vietnam long before the conflict started. Some of his personal heroes were American revolutionaries. The French and the Americans both refused his attempts, and this eventually led to 25 years of conflict.... He found allies in the Soviets and Chinese. Close minded westerners could have possibly avoided this if they had listened to him.
@@xisotopex ---- I'm still ambivalent about the whole thing. I support our troops, even when they disapproved of the war. But I did not like that war, either. I'm leaning to the idea that Americans MISTAKENLY thought that communism was the central goal of the North Vietnamese. Apparently, the central goal was to unify all of Vietnam. That involved ending French colonialism, and the French appealed to the U.S., and the pizza hit the fan. The U.S. apparently, in that instance, should have told the French, "Sorry ... can't talk right now."
@@davesmith5656 I think nationalism and independence were the first goals.... there is still debate about how much was ho chi minh was a communist, or a nationalist.... many think he just took the most expedient path towards that end... of course the whole story does not begin and end with just him, their were others that were definitely more fervent communists than he was. a little bit of foresight of the west, would have gone a long ways.... of course france had to be pulled out of its colonialism kicking and screaming well past when they should have realized the correct path.
I lived it then an now a m 60 gunner to start with then carried a m16 then became a squad leader after 6 months .. the only guy there who demanded a m 14 to carry made it 11 months 3/1 first infantry 11th brigade Americal division or 23 infantry 1969 central highlands
I don't think it's such a silly idea. The last President and "Commander-in-Chief" who actually was a former commanding officer in the US army, was Eisenhower. Bush, he had a stint in the Air Texas National Guard and failed to turn up for service in Vietnam. In the US and in other countries, most previous leaders and army commanders had genuine service experience and a knowledge of the horrors of war. Maybe if Bush had served in Vietnam he would've thought more carefully about Iraq-Afghanistan.
Bush was strongly influenced by Cheney, Wolfowitz, Fleit, , and a host of other draft dodgers working at the Pentagon. Ironic that he would join the Reserves to avoid a trip to the Nam, and then activate thousands of Reservists and National Guardsmen to serve multiple tours in Iraq.
Hell the war in Iraq was planned and carried out by the bush family to take their oil production and pipe lines away from sad dam Husain after hessian kicked the bush family out of the country! To regain what they think is the bush family oil and production facilities in Iraq they had to destroy the World Trade Center and thousands of American lives in those buildings and aircraft! The pentagon was hit by a cruise missile not a aircraft , I assume to do away with officers who were going to expose bush and his murderous allies!
I had my own "Quiet Mutiny" in 1970. I proudly resisted Vietnam/Draft in 1970. Therefore I missed the utter BS that all these damn Vietnam videos represent. It was one of THE best decisions of my life. My adult children whole heartedly agree. Validation doesn't get any higher than that.
Thank you veterans, you weren't asked so much as ordered to go. The way you were treated after your honorable service were protests and worse. I remember you. My small war will never compare to what You did. I love you for it. And I will forever honor you, all that served in Vietnam. Thank you.
you think you had itso tough...think about all the soldiers of previous war...the didn't have quick medi-vac and resupply etc.and we weren't there for the duration...I was infantry, wounded and still feel we had it better than the men with frozen feet, no food and on and on.... .@j H
@j H neither groups are particularly heroic or worthy of praise for the most part, but they should at the least get free and good healthcare after everything they went through.
Yes you were all forced to go you all. came back heros those who did not come back were heroes also,my b came back to be treated like crap once in ohio his home state ,by a bunch socialists brainwashed brats who never had a bad day in their pathetic little lives.We thank you all for your service you have our respect + gratitude wwll generation was the greatest generation and you and all others are also,it is a shame that we cannot say that about most of our bumbling leaders who want to go. The way of socialist marxist agenda for which you all fought so bravely against which is completely against what the last four wars were against before that.
I was on holiday last year in Cambodia and Vietnam, talking to a taxi driver in Ho Chi Minh city the Vietnam war was mentioned , he said , and I qoute...'There was no Vietnam war, it was the American war'..unquote.
Cambodia still has communist ideation, they are not a country but a kingdom and they were under communist control but now claim to have a more fair political party. But MANY countries do not like to see America get in wars, because we usually have allies that we are supporting and often opposing countries hate the fact that America is powerful. We help our allies win wars. There are many in Asia who do not like Americans, which makes it difficult to understand why they flock here to live! But they do like a free country! (I am leaving this site now so won't answer any comments.)
Ive been to America, Ive also been to Cambodia and Vietnam, the nicest people I met were in the latter two, all three have poverty, the former is the least safe of them all, all three worship the $, inequality exists in all of them, the former has delusions of grandeur and the latter two are still living with the influence of the former.
Tell me Charlie, how do you feel about Pol Pot? Americans had nothing to do about his butchering those Cambodians. Then, tell me how you feel about the child sex trade in SE Asia? Those governments do very little to protect their own. You took a holiday, I lived in SE Asian for 6 months in a country with a very repressive regime.
I grew up on Pilger. I have followed and admired his gumption, to a point. The point in point being his now fully developed pathological hatred of the U.S as a thing.It's alarmingly apparent that Pilger's exposure to so much trauma, and probably unsupervised trauma at that, has had a massive impact on his nervous system and sense of reason. His increasing reliance upon Russia Today, Putin's puppet channel organ, is a testament to this notion. While he remains a decent man and a courteous one at that, with gems up his sleeve , 'tUtopia' being a recent one, i feel Pilger has made an unbreakable pact with dark forces, in the shape of Vladimir Rasputin Soprano. His frequent outbursts on RT might be a clue to the regularity of psychotic episodes, or other trauma-related reactions.
it seems he has rejected one type of imperialism and mistakenly accepted and replaced it with another type of imperialism. that which he espouses is no better than what he had rejected.
Charlie in the bush at 5:00 .Where they are?? no ones knows! But they are definately there. " Im stuck here in this room getting weaker....while Charlie is out there in the bush getting stronger.." - Apocalypse Now 1979 -
In any further wars all policy maker's children must be the first to sign up. Once the government has all their children enlisted they can ask for further volunteers.
I'm glad I join the Marines, we had I Corp to worry about, the Army had 2 Corp and down to the Delta, and being under the U.S. Navy was a big plus we were Fleet Marine Force, 3rd Marine Amphibious Force.
I was there in 1971. Camp Evans "Redskins" Company D (Attack Helicopter), 158th Aviation Battalion (Assault Helicopter), 101st Airborne Division (Airmobile). Go back there every night.
Ankle or heel spurs were very helpful back then when avoiding the draft. If you mixed up right and left foot then you simply said "on both". If you came from the right class you joined the Texas Air Defence etc. As a Congress lady said back then "Join this airforce to protect Texas from Oklahoma." Fifty thousand young working class men and students came home in body bags from a country they would be hard pressed to find on a map. Truth puts fiction in the shade.
I turned 20 in 1970. Celebrated it in the Central Highlands of VN out of Bong Son/Pleiku/LZ English. My birthday came and went beyond the date for 2 weeks before I realized I was a year older. A letter from home that reached me 2 weeks after the fact had reminded me when I was wished, a 'Happy Birthday'...That is how I remember being 20. God Bless all those who served, WELCOME HOME!
I was a combat grunt that served with the 3/506th airborne in 1968. Our morale was good. I did not experience the bitterness the grunts of 1970 talk about. We beat the enemy during the Tet Offensive. My squad leader, Stephen Cook, has written a book, "Don't Cry For Us, Saigon," which is well worth the read. He gives an accurate assessment of the war that we won. It was the South Vietnamese army and the traitorous politicians with their news media that lost it two years later after our military left. Any bitterness I have encountered from the "Viet Nam era" grunt usually comes from a "wannabe" syndrome. Only one out of twelve soldiers out of the 2.7 million whoever was even in the country during this ten-year war ever saw any combat. Journalists were limited to how far they could go into the unsafe zones. Another factoid: there were more volunteers for Viet Nam than there were for World War II.
McSorley makes a great case in his book "A Better War" that, like you allude to, the war was won largely by 1970 after Abrams took over. The VC were decimated by Tet and played little part in the VN's government in 1975. The NVA after disastrous miniTets and the Easter offensive, only gained the upper hand over the ARVN after the US left and they were incredulously allowed to remain in SVN according to the Paris Peace accords. I appreciate your service, Currahee, especially your time in Vietnam. I was 1-506 (Korea, 1994).
Surprising as well cause it's a special report by the Mirror who've become a rag of a newspaper. Surprised they could afford to send a Journalist to Vietnam to be honest
Most of the walking in the jungle was blindly walking thru heavy brush vines and tall grass and walking into an ambush. This was pure and simple stupidity.
The infantry game plan was to find and kill the enemy. When they weren't grouped for an attack, the enemy laid low, dispersed in small groups in the jungle. We usually went looking for them in company-sized operations because we wanted enough troops to secure a landing zone. A large group is noisy, somewhat clumsy, and as fast as its slowest people. The enemy usually had lookouts. They knew the terrain, and they could guess where we were going. The element of surprise was usually on their side, and it was their option whether to set up a large ambush, to completely disappear, or to leave behind a few well-camouflaged snipers hidden in the trees. In that scenario, the enemy was placing only 2 or 3 snipers at risk, while 70 or 80 U.S. infantrymen were vulnerable as sniper targets. If there were sniper casualties, the enemy could try to up the ante by waiting around to see if they could hit the Dustoff choppers or disappear before artillery rounds or gunships arrived. It was the enemy's home turf, and we didn't have much choice but to fight the ground war on their terms.
God bless ALL our men who serve, they are ALL valuable no matter how menial or high-ranked their job is, all are needed and when you lay down your life for your Country, there is NO separation of how important you are from any other warrior!!
But 1967 was not 1970...even Stone has admited that the level of morale deterioration was not like the movie,an artistic license.... it depended when where and what was your unit about,this was the period of Vietnamization,troop withdrawals, combat action declined by disengagement and by (N Vietnamese admition) high casualties and supply disruption after the Cambodian Incursion
The lack of change between troops then and now and how they look is just wild man. You could tell me this is from Afghanistan and I wouldnt even doubt it.
We've learned. Blame the U.N. because no other nation will do the dirty work. DT's correct re: Afghanistan, Iran, et al. We have no choice if you want globalization. First Bush put us in support of global economy. EU didn't do their military commitments so we had to take up the slack. We need to get out of the U.N. - make them move to an African Republic. I hope I live to see that happen; laugh, laugh, I think I'd die!. BTW, JFK put American forces in RVN to prove to Khrushchev how tough JFK was. The administration for the effort was SEATO. JFK authorized the assassination of Diem and Diem was murdered 1 Nov '63. 21 days later JFK was murdered. LBJ was POTUS. LBJ kept RSM as Sect. of Defense. Neither was intellectually qualified for their job. But, you see, no person is qualified for POTUS. We just have to play the hand we're dealt.
I received a phone call once, somewhere around 4am and it was 'Wondering Soul". Didn't know it by name till years later but it scared the hell outta me and the alcohol from the night before didn't help none neither. Nope.
Artem Morozov I am not American, I'm British, but I have several friends and acquaintances who were in the invasion of Iraq in 2003 and the occupation afterwards. I also have a friend who fought from a PB (patrol base) at Nadi Ali in Helmand Province in Afghanistan, and also a friend who was based at a FOB (forward operating base) in Sangin District Centre and also Nahr Saraj in Helmand Province. I have been told just how dangerous and vulnerable the outlying patrolling troops are, in comparison to the rear area HQ and depot/logistics/admin/etc in the rear areas. (ps I noticed that you mentioned the 'sandpit/sandbox' which is also what the British troops call Afghanistan. I have no personal experience but I have heard some interesting and almost unbelievable from the 4 lads who I know who did serve in Iraq and Afghanistan.
I feel sorry for anyone conscripted to go to war, anyone that enlists knows the dangers and chooses to risk it, they have a choice, conscripts don't....
The draft has been over for 37 years! There ARE NO MORE "conscripts" except career military (lifers) because anyone in the military later than 37 years ago, has JOINED of their own volition!
@@LSPD1909 Who's OP? -- we did not listen to the whole tape above. Doesn't matter, it's a valid point that needs to be considered, especially by anti-VN War dissenters! No one wants their loved ones to die in war, and certainly solders don't want to die in war either, but soldiers deserve our support for their presence in a war, whether we agree or not. True that the draft ended in 1973 and the VN war did not end until 1975, but there WERE conscientious objectors in that war who did not wish to fight, and were given jobs in many other areas OUTSIDE of field combat.
@@MJLeger-tz4so I don't disagree with any of that, I never alluded that I did. "OP" means original poster. Many Conscientious objectors still saw combat, many draftees weren't objectors but still didn't want to see combat. I don't think anyone here would not support our troops, but, We all joined for different reasons and accepted that we may not live to leave, no hurt in telling the truth.
Fuck war, it's a mess. Imagine living thinking it's your last day and you're in their doing something you don't want to do and you can die any moment - might as well not be born at all
Lot of changes to the 16 after 1970. Crime lined barrel, forward assist and even different twist rate and ammo grain weight. Just when you think we have learned...we end up in another war lasting over a decade and another getting close to two decades.
@@stonebay2111 The forward bolt assist was on the 16s that we used when I was in the Army in 1969/1970 but was useless in clearing a jam. I always had to break the rifle down and field strip it to get it to function, until the next infuriating jam. The brass blamed us for not doing proper maintenance on our rifles.
@@evaabdullahi5240 It never jammed or failed for me, and I fired thousands of rounds. We NEVER had a moral problem either. We got tired, lack of sleep, but that was about it.
Sham Timothy... You are so right! I served in Southeast Asia for almost 3 years, and in military for over 8 years!! And I did it for my great country that I am so proud of!! But our leaders usually betray us!!
Im glad i wasn't born when this war had occured. This was a war that was uncalled for. Didn't people notice that the only country who took part in this war was the United States. I am proud for Canada to have not taken part in this bloody massacre of a war.
BeyondChange Canuck, your wrong mate Australia, New Zealand, South Korea, Thailand and the Philippines all were involved too. Australia had a full taskforce of 3 Infantry battalions, 3 squadrons of SAS 3 artillery batteries, field squadrons and construction squadrons heavy armour ( Centurion tanks) and Cavalry ( light armour M113's ) and a Training team as well as a large logistics base and hospital at Vung Tau starting with one battalion in 1964 and ending in 1973. I served with 7th. Battalion of The Royal Australian Regiment as an Infantry Rifleman conscripted by a lottery draw at 20.
BeyondChange huh? What about Australia? New Zealand? Singapore? Mercenaries from plenty of other countries? I know you think the USA was the only country because that's your American propaganda at work.
Cough it up: Not the entire US. Only the corrupt politicians in Washington working for multi-billion dollar corporations snatching up natural resources & making sure they're turning a profit.
John Pilger was a great Australian journalist, always an intellectual, well researched, and told it how it is, or was. Pilger most often reported the truth that the politicians did not wish for the man in the street to know. You do not get that type of reporting today. I grew up in Australia watching, listening and learning from fine reporters like him as a young adolescent while at school. It taught me to question the spin given out as mainstream news.
Do a search for "wandering soul tapes" or "Operation Wandering Soul". Basically it was psychological warfare used to scare the NVA and Viet Cong out of the war.
My dad was are air Cav Army how do I find out about my fathers combat situations?? World War II Korea Vietnam... Any help would be appreciated when feel free to discuss more later
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Difference is, the Vietnamese were fighting in their own country to free it from foreign invaders, they fought the French they fought the Japanese and the Chinese before..... Today they are a Proud Nation and humble People.
I remember recording some of those PsyOps tapes in the resording studio at the Ft Benning Infantry School's recording studio. I thought it was nuts then and I was proven right.
I left on September 21of 68 and man we're still engaging the NVA.No, regrets or talk about the war.This people that caused the problems were rear MF.They had nothing to do but get in trouble and do drugs.Yes that's all the difference in the world.The army of today is mechanized, no more KP. So just like the nation it's going to the dogs. This soldiers live in a fire base and go out in patrols.Life is easy for this soldier.As,you heard say they are fighting the Viet Cong. This soldier is not the grunt.The Grunt,as I have explain before is the soldier that lives under the jungle canopy.He has no permanent place to lay his head. He humps the mountains everyday of the 7 day week. He makes a perimeter everyday and digs a fox Hole.The Grunt is an animal full of anger and ready to fight,so he can rest.The soldier gets up before the sun.He recovers all his stuff and is packed and in line.The line goes up a mountain,so your body is always bented forward,cuz the tilt of the mountain.You hear the grunts (noise ) of the soldier shifting the weight of his rucksack to match the tilt of the mountain. All day you shift the rucksack weight for better position better foot traction going up the mountain. For someone to sit on his ass in a fire base and go out,once in a while,can't call himself a Grunt Grunt is only for killers,sufferers of thirst and hunger.
Firebases were not technically the front lines, but you sure could get sapper attacks, rocket and mortar rounds incoming and the threat of being overrun.
Served with b- btry 1/77th 1st Cav. One of the units that created FSB Snuffy early in 1970.Later opened up FSB Ilingsworth nearly got overrun April 1,1970.
Hi I'm from Nagaland. Land of hills and forest which is famous for flora and fauna. I was born in rural area but now I'm in capital pursing my studies and career I don't know much history but by watching this video i can easily understand why America lose the war. They're trained for jungle but Vet Kongs were born in jungle N the battle was in jungle. I don't know how i got this video recommended but thank you❤
"conscript soldiers." Threatened with prison if they didn't go. Sad they went. Even more sad what they wound up doing. But ... they had a choice. A grim choice. But still ... a choice.
I was a Navy Corpsman with the First Marines Division and none of us wore love beads or had long hair like the Army people in this article. We were there to fight a war and that's what we did and nobody died on my watch.
Bill Clinton, George Bush, & Donald Trump appreciate your sacrifice.... oh wait... they don't give a fuck about you or your 80 thousand dead Brothers. But at least Wall Street made money 💰
The average age of US Vietnam vets was several years younger than prior wars. Fewer soldiers were from high income families. Illegal Drug use was higher than any other US conflict. More officers were killed by their own troops than any other US war. Since; US use of conscripts has been curtailed in favor of a "professional" that is long term hired soldier. Hence few American youth today have any kind of national service or exposure to the real world outside their immediate cyber world resulting in a mis-oriented and immature perspective on the world. The resulting potential trends are clear.
you men I have respect for. My grandfather was a World War II medic. D Day. I spent time in Iraq and Afghanistan 2002 to 2005.Marine born hard. We gotta wake folks up and let money do their on fighting.
