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The race for clean energy is gathering speed but who will win? | Counting the Cost 

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@KennyL1
@KennyL1 4 месяца назад
What race? China started on this clean energy development twenty years ago. While the west was labelling China as a big polluter, China was racing down the green energy path. The west was distracted by its own narrative about China's pollution problem and didn't watch what China was doing about green energy. It is a bit too late to catch up now.
@maggiechan33
@maggiechan33 4 месяца назад
Right.
@mandarinandthetenrings2201
@mandarinandthetenrings2201 4 месяца назад
Clean or Green Energy is Russia propaganda. They got Germany to spend over 2 trillion Euros in country that had very little wind or solar. So watch out know what you are talking about.
@ForbiddTV
@ForbiddTV 4 месяца назад
China is expanding nuclear and every part of its energy sector, including coal. They need more electricity.
@HellBot-gi5si
@HellBot-gi5si 4 месяца назад
Yes, but your forgetting it one the biggest burners of coal in world. Notice that China cannot use it's "Green Energy" for most it's cities. Geography is super important so if you live in Australia or the US State of Texas it idea to use "Green Energy". But if you live in Germany where they spent 2 trillion Euros on Green Energy and it only make up about 10% of their electrical energy then you in trouble.
@maftab3818
@maftab3818 4 месяца назад
Full support China ❤❤❤
@ingwoo861
@ingwoo861 4 месяца назад
Whoever wins this race is a win for humanity. We all win from this competition.
@cobracommander.1958
@cobracommander.1958 4 месяца назад
China already won why bother asking😂😂😂😂😂
@yetao5801
@yetao5801 4 месяца назад
Well, how would the self-proclaimed overlord, aka the US, react if we didn't pretend anymore?
@maggiechan33
@maggiechan33 4 месяца назад
@@yetao5801 The pretentious overlord claimed every Chinese product are both "a threat to national security" and "overcapacity".
@weetaoneo3081
@weetaoneo3081 4 месяца назад
Shhh… let the Americans think they winning.
@alko_xo
@alko_xo 4 месяца назад
Cheers 🥂
@Paul-yh8km
@Paul-yh8km 4 месяца назад
Iceland
@davidzhang6230
@davidzhang6230 4 месяца назад
Just about 10 yrs ago, China was in huge dilema between development and air polution and carben emissions. The fact is there's always a way out to solve problems by facing the criticising and focus on solving problems.
@maggiechan33
@maggiechan33 4 месяца назад
Agree. I was surprised to learn the Chinese people themselves, demanded the central govt address their old pollution problems, thus paving the way for a 'greener China'.
@maggiechan33
@maggiechan33 4 месяца назад
Clean energy is getting cheaper because of China's technological advances; or "overcapacity" as per the US.
@richdobbs6595
@richdobbs6595 4 месяца назад
Or China doesn't actually make that significant advances, but manipulates the market in a neo-mercantilist manner that screws over folks that actually look at the relevant engineering without factoring in government intervention. Because China's steel and aluminum is cheaper because of clean energy, and not coal.
@HellBot-gi5si
@HellBot-gi5si 4 месяца назад
Yes, but even China cannot do "Green Energy". You need to have the geography for such things. So places like Australia is ideal for "Green Energy" or the US State of Texas. But not necessarily place like China or even Russia where it very cold and dark most of the year.
@richdobbs6595
@richdobbs6595 4 месяца назад
@@HellBot-gi5si China has lots of locations that are suitable for wind power or solar panel placements. They are not near cities though. China produces much of the world's supply of aluminum and steel, so they should be able to use it to build HVDC powerlines, in which they are a leader in. Is it being used for green energy or coal fired power plants? They are a leading producer in batteries, but it seems like they need to get the higher value from exporting these as EV's, rather than employing them domestically as grid scale storage to make use of green power.
@maggiechan33
@maggiechan33 4 месяца назад
@@HellBot-gi5si You really didn't learn geography in school; time to go back to the classroom..
@HellBot-gi5si
@HellBot-gi5si 4 месяца назад
@@maggiechan33 Shall take you to school Chinaman. Ok, school is in session. You have vast deserts in China; however, you can't use them. A major city must be within 500 miles of the point you generate your electricity that is the gold standards electric line transmition. So Egypt can use Solar because of the Nile river has cities on both sides surrounded by deserts.
@nmew6926
@nmew6926 4 месяца назад
10 years ago and before, US embassy in Beijing daily monitor the air pollution index. The figures were always a bit higher than the official Beijing figures. Sincerely we Chinese people should be grateful for US pressure to the CPC government to improve the situation and the CPC government succeeded without compromising the manufacturing industry growth. China is fortunate to have the best government in the world, the CPC government. China is also fortunate to have the best opposition party in the world, the USA which force the CPC government to excel and perform at at 200% capacity. Unfortunately for India which now boast to have the most polluted cities in the world - is ignored by the US. No monitoring, no media reporting.
@HellBot-gi5si
@HellBot-gi5si 4 месяца назад
"Green Energy" can only be used if you have the right geography. If not you have to use coal, natural gas, or nuclear energy to generate electricity.
@G-ManWaseKasiInManchester
@G-ManWaseKasiInManchester 4 месяца назад
For the first time, I’m so proud of Kgoseintho Ramokgopa🇿🇦😀👏🏻
@omwoyojames6592
@omwoyojames6592 4 месяца назад
Which race,the one a developing country China won before we knew it.
@blackknight4996
@blackknight4996 4 месяца назад
What RACE? Why pretend? You know which country has dominance in all fields.
@unreliablenarrator6649
@unreliablenarrator6649 4 месяца назад
While Western countries danbbled in clean energy and talked the talk, China buckled-down and walked the walk, developing and buiilding-out infrastructure. No they have "over-capacity" that requires trade protectionism? Let's facd to, China will develop markets in he global south while Western countries slow-walk it raking in tax dollars for it's over-priced equipment.
@HellBot-gi5si
@HellBot-gi5si 4 месяца назад
Not really. When you look at China most of their cities use coal fired electricity. Sorry but this just propaganda. You should know better. "Green Energy" is ideal when you have great geography. So you live in a windy and sunny area. That is the US State of Texas. But if you live in China or Germany where you don't have a lot wind and in the winter time the Sun is blocked out then you out of luck and you just have to use coal or ideally a natural gas electrical power plant.
@harbinger6562
@harbinger6562 4 месяца назад
I say Global South will win❤️🇷🇺🇨🇳🦾😇
@NafoDato
@NafoDato 4 месяца назад
Then why are countries in the Global South demanding the Global North to pay to help them transition to green energy?
@blackknight4996
@blackknight4996 4 месяца назад
​@@NafoDato Because the North had polluted the world for 200 years ...
@beyondfossil
@beyondfossil 4 месяца назад
China is where the world put most of its manufacturing base since about the last 1990s. So it should not come as a surprise that China is ahead on renewable energy as well many other industries like automotives. Furthermore, the global "west" will have to compete to stay ahead like any other nation has to. The west may complain the game is "rigged" but remember the west thought they were taking advantage of China when they moved their factories there and then received cheap completed goods back from China. The game is not always fair, and the west has played the game too well and now realizing the game moved on without them. But that's not to say the west cannot compete. I look forward to seeing what happens next. With the highest population (along with India), the energy transition _cannot_ happen without China. This much is certain.
@richdobbs6595
@richdobbs6595 4 месяца назад
Yeah, but. China produces more aluminum and steel than the rest of the world, despite not having advantages for producing those commodities. They also produce the most investment in real estate that no one lives in. They've grown enormously in economics, but their people are aged and poor. Human societies are complex, and far away from any sort of optimum. If anything, China suggests that the energy transition will occur in the next couple of hundred years as human populations decline, either through sub-replacement fertility or through violent upheaval. I'm happy that I'm old enough that the fall won't affect me too much.
@sunnywu2464
@sunnywu2464 4 месяца назад
Counting the cost 😢 😢 ? China is already counting the profits 😂 😂 😂 . Ev, batteries, and solar panels : Money flowing into China.
@richdobbs6595
@richdobbs6595 4 месяца назад
Most of China's people are poor. Check out per capita GDP checking for PPP. It is logical that money should flow in, they are holding a yard sale.
@marlcastro4352
@marlcastro4352 4 месяца назад
Counting profits?😂 search where china is in the global economy? not even close to the top 10 even top 20!
@vsxtubex
@vsxtubex 4 месяца назад
For the sake of the World, lets hope everyone wins the clean energy race
@ForbiddTV
@ForbiddTV 4 месяца назад
Or let's hope we can stop them with their ruinables energy push.
@shuhel02
@shuhel02 4 месяца назад
07:30 did she say Gigawatts or Jigawatts? Reminded me of the scene from Back to the Future. 🤣
@Western_Decline
@Western_Decline 4 месяца назад
Race? What race? China is so far ahead.
@NafoDato
@NafoDato 4 месяца назад
So far ahead? China's still building coal power plants and is the number one customer and consumer of oil. Obviously not in a rush to transition to renewable, green energy. Meanwhile, in the U.S., the Inflation Reduction Act delivers hundreds of billions of dollars in funding for clean energy and the environment while creating hundreds of thousands of green jobs. The E.U.'s Net Zero Industry Act (NZIA) will boost domestic green tech production to producing 40% of its green tech equipment by 2030.
@NafoDato
@NafoDato 4 месяца назад
Might wanna put aside your clear anti-western prejudice and enter the real world.
@maggiechan33
@maggiechan33 4 месяца назад
@@NafoDato You are the biased one, existing in your comfort bubble: -For green energy, China has spent 676B, US only 303B -China is decades ahead, which is why the US has placed tariffs on Chinese EV (102%) and solar panels.
@maggiechan33
@maggiechan33 4 месяца назад
@@NafoDato China aims to be carbon neutral by 2050; they will reach their goal BEFORE 2050.
@maggiechan33
@maggiechan33 4 месяца назад
@@NafoDato CubicPV Inc in Mass, pulled the plug on it's "new" solar wafer factory. EnelSpA in 2022 decided to build a factory for solar cells and modules, but construction for said factory still hasn't begun. San Antonio's Mission Solar Energy wanted to triple it's manufacturing capacity in 2024, but the company hasn't begun ordering and installing equipment to boost output.
@1xm_mx1
@1xm_mx1 4 месяца назад
Clean energy comes at an environmental cost either before it is made (raw material extraction such as toxic metals such as lead, Mercury, cadmium, rare earth metals, etc.), or after it is used (disposal of equipment such as used solar panels and turbine blades, toxic metals, etc.), or both.
@TheRealSnakePlisken
@TheRealSnakePlisken 4 месяца назад
Somebody is paying attention to reality.
@YukFou1
@YukFou1 4 месяца назад
So does a coal mine or drilling for oil, we were happy to do that? Whats your point.
@1xm_mx1
@1xm_mx1 4 месяца назад
@YukFou1 the point is, "clean energy" isn't clean like the marketing makes you believe. It is a rich country's way of getting expensive energy that pollutes the poorer countries where the raw materials are extracted and the old solar panels and turbine blades, etc., are disposed of.
@musicalhost5755
@musicalhost5755 4 месяца назад
As an engineer. There is no race, I've worked on renewable energy. It all comes down to money, if it can be done cheaper that's the way that it's done. Everything else is politically inspired and driven. Everyone wants renewable energy but no one wants to see the device in their backyard...
@notheotherklaus
@notheotherklaus 4 месяца назад
I just love the irony of this Qatar based oil tv shows how important alternative energy sources are becoming.
@xyz-gn6xq
@xyz-gn6xq 4 месяца назад
Some countries are quick to criticize the polluters but are quicker to put up tariffs against green energy. To protect the globe, countries need to remove the barriers instead just generating hot air.
@csharpe5787
@csharpe5787 4 месяца назад
If you have any countries were actually racing though! Instead of spending money on making the climate worse, weapons and destruction.
@KJSvitko
@KJSvitko 4 месяца назад
Population needs to be in balance with jobs, resources, nature and the environment. Having a bigger population in any country than the country can support makes no sense. Access to food, water, shelter, energy and jobs should guide population levels. The worlds population is still expected to add another billion people to feed, clothe and produce pollution. Humans are crowding out all other species of plants and animals. Education and birth control are key to reducing poverty and hunger. Having a child that you can not provide for yourself is cruel and irresponsible. We need solutions not just sympathy. Endless population growth is not sustainable on a finite planet. Every country needs to "TRY" to be more self sufficient. When there are not enough resources to sustain a population something has to give. Countries need to focus on quality of life for their citizens and not just quantity of life for cheap labor. Why import fossil fuels when wind and solar energy can be produced locally and solar energy can power electric vehicles. We need solutions not just sympathy.
@Paul-yh8km
@Paul-yh8km 4 месяца назад
Iceland are ahead of everyone. 89% non fossil fuel use for Total energy, not just low lying fruit of decarbonising existing electricity use.
@ForbiddTV
@ForbiddTV 4 месяца назад
Well Iceland is in a unique position to easily utilize geothermal.
@richdobbs6595
@richdobbs6595 4 месяца назад
Iceland is a modest size city with uniquely beneficial hinterland. Sort of irrelevant to the world. Not even Greenland has managed to exploit their similar geography. Of course, Greenland is a modest sized town.
@alexandertsarev410
@alexandertsarev410 4 месяца назад
"Jigawatt" from a "thought leader"... That's thick!😂
@davidanalyst671
@davidanalyst671 4 месяца назад
"the perversity of climate change is that when it doesn't rain, the hydropower doesnt make as much power" Shes not just stupid, shes stupid stupid
@santaclaus0815
@santaclaus0815 4 месяца назад
An economic boom in Africa could also weaken the migrant flows from there to Europe - if the African governments play along. So Africa could create incentives for Europe regarding investments or financial aid for green technologies if, in return, Africa will help Europe more with refugee flows. In principle, the 4 continents on the Atlantic should work closer together economically. This could also be a lighthouse project / kind of role model for good cooperation between poor and rich parts of the world. And economically it makes a lot of sense. They are neighbors after all.
@flutieflambert
@flutieflambert 4 месяца назад
Clean energy is mostly cheaper than fossil fuel, but adoption is slow because profit margins of fossil fuels are much higher- so adoption is being driven by capital rather than demand.
@ForbiddTV
@ForbiddTV 4 месяца назад
'Clean' energy is actually more expensive then fossil fuels. Ruinables are the most expensive, even more expensive than nuclear energy.
@volkerengels5298
@volkerengels5298 4 месяца назад
"Not fast enough.." - could after a while well mean "too late" 19:40 While Europe's air became cleaner, it became hotter in Europe. Aerosols reflect sunlight - thus cooling the atmosphere.
@Eduard.Popa.
@Eduard.Popa. 4 месяца назад
THE BEST ADVANTAGE OF THE CLEAN ENERGY is no more imports of oil and methane gas from Arab countries, Russia, Iran, USA, ... ALL COUNTRIES WILL PRODUCE THEIR ENERGY SO MORE MONEY in the pocket of countries and citizens. ❤❤❤
@KJSvitko
@KJSvitko 4 месяца назад
New homes need to adjust to the times. Home solar energy and battery storage are now more common. Electric vehicles are becoming more popular every year. Every garage should include a 220 volt outlet and electric vehicle charger. Every new home and business should install a rain water collection and storage system along with solar panels. Even in areas where rain is infrequent it is crazy to waste the little rain that does fall and waste it. We need to stop planting green lawns and switch to local native plantings around homes. It is crazy to plant lawns and build golf courses in dry desert areas. We waste too much water and electricity. the future is electric. Wind and solar energy along with electric vehicles are the future. Stop using fossil fuels. There is a climate crisis.
@Eduard.Popa.
@Eduard.Popa. 4 месяца назад
It's fantastic that this race is doing good for the humankind !!! The race of nuclear weapons on the other hand... Anyway, China is ahead, EU and USA are following, but India change idea and is full clean energy now.
@JamesLi-n4x
@JamesLi-n4x 4 месяца назад
More Competitions are need.
@edge4367
@edge4367 4 месяца назад
Solar and wind is the future...energy..
@ForbiddTV
@ForbiddTV 4 месяца назад
Let's hope not. If we let the Greenies get away with eliminating fossil fuels we face a grim future of exorbitant electricity rates, energy rationing and massive rolling blackouts.
@williamwatitwa3534
@williamwatitwa3534 4 месяца назад
Mother earth will win.
@matthewStapleton
@matthewStapleton 4 месяца назад
As soon as she couldn’t pronounce gigawatt right I lost interest
@WNAZ-WALA
@WNAZ-WALA 4 месяца назад
We can also achieve. ...but how ????..??...?? 12:38
@ericmaclaurin8525
@ericmaclaurin8525 4 месяца назад
Who will win? Way to prove you don't even understand the subject.
@AskieFox-i2b
@AskieFox-i2b 4 месяца назад
Rising speed to clean energy but ends up not clean energy at all because the process is muvh worsy and dirty than coal and oil. Its polluting in some areas
@maggiechan33
@maggiechan33 4 месяца назад
Give examples.
@YukFou1
@YukFou1 4 месяца назад
Thanks for the useless comment user-sn2oq4qt7b
@zobenny8290
@zobenny8290 4 месяца назад
love China ❤ 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@eddyr1041
@eddyr1041 4 месяца назад
Humanity win
@tigertoo01
@tigertoo01 4 месяца назад
Jigawatts? What is this back to the future?
@marktrinidad7650
@marktrinidad7650 4 месяца назад
I thought the race is already over.
@rhetorical1488
@rhetorical1488 4 месяца назад
Thorium reactors. the rest is a pipe dream
@beyondfossil
@beyondfossil 4 месяца назад
No. The next 10 to 20 years are critical to avoid the worst of climate change. Yet it takes 10 to 20 years to build a single nuclear power plant from conception to grid power on! New nuclear is also the most expensive form of energy to put on the grid. The only pipe dream here is commercial nuclear power. Less than 1% of the world's land surface in current generation photovoltaics is enough to power all the world's grids. There is enough offshore wind to power the world several times over. How is this possible? Our sun is 99.9% the mass of the solar system and it delivers a mind boggling 173,000-terawatts continuous to the Earth. Or 1000W per square meter peak at ground level and it's always peak somewhere on Earth. All the combined fossil & fissile fuels on Earth would literally amount to a bucket in an ocean compared to the sun. Nuclear fan boys need to get down on their knees every morning and pray to the clean *fusion* power we get for free from the sky. The only thing that nuclear does well is keep expensive highly trained workers employed. Every dollar spent on commercial nuclear during this critical phase actually _delays_ the global energy transition. Fossil fuel strategist would do well to promote nuclear now as the delay only earns them more profit.
@beyondfossil
@beyondfossil 4 месяца назад
The only pipe dream here is commercial nuclear power. Less than 1% of the world's land surface in current generation photovoltaics is enough to power all the world's grids. There is enough offshore wind to power the world several times over. How is this possible? Our sun is 99.9% the mass of the solar system and it delivers a mind boggling 173,000-terawatts continuous to the Earth. Or 1000W per square meter peak at ground level and it's always peak somewhere on Earth. All the combined fossil & fissile fuels on Earth would literally amount to a bucket in an ocean compared to the sun. Nuclear fan boys need to get down on their knees every morning and pray to the clean *fusion* power we get for free from the sky. The only thing that nuclear does well is keep expensive highly trained workers employed. Every dollar spent on commercial nuclear during this critical phase actually _delays_ the global energy transition. Fossil fuel strategist would do well to promote nuclear now as the delay only earns them more profit.
@beyondfossil
@beyondfossil 4 месяца назад
The only pipe dream here is commercial nuclear power. Less than 1% of the world's land surface in current generation photovoltaics is enough to power all the world's grids. There is enough offshore wind to power the world several times over. How is this possible? Our sun is 99.9% the mass of the solar system and it delivers a mind boggling 173,000-terawatts continuous to the Earth. Or 1000W per square meter peak at ground level and it's always peak somewhere on Earth. All the combined fossil & fissile fuels on Earth would literally amount to a bucket in an ocean compared to the sun. Nuclear fan boys need to get down on their knees every morning and pray to the clean *fusion* power we get for free from the sky. The only thing that nuclear does well is keep expensive highly trained workers employed. Every dollar spent on commercial nuclear during this critical phase actually _delays_ the global energy transition. Fossil fuel strategist would do well to promote nuclear now as the delay only earns them more profit.
@beyondfossil
@beyondfossil 4 месяца назад
The only pipe dream here is commercial nuclear power. Less than 1% of the world's land surface in current generation photovoltaics is enough to power all the world's grids. There is enough offshore wind to power the world several times over. How is this possible? Our sun is 99.9% the mass of the solar system and it delivers a mind boggling 173,000-terawatts continuous to the Earth. Or 1000W per square meter peak at ground level and it's always peak somewhere on Earth. All the combined fossil & fissile fuels on Earth would literally amount to a bucket in an ocean compared to the sun. Nuclear fan boys need to get down on their knees every morning and pray to the clean *fusion* power we get for free from the sky. The only thing that nuclear does well is keep expensive highly trained workers employed. Every dollar spent on commercial nuclear during this critical phase actually _delays_ the global energy transition. Fossil fuel strategist would do well to promote nuclear now as the delay only earns them more profit.
@rhetorical1488
@rhetorical1488 4 месяца назад
@@beyondfossil lmao. even your god gretta is on record that there is no climate crisis. your knowledge of outdated tech is passable but no one is talking candu reactors for the last 30 yrs
@jamesdean433
@jamesdean433 4 месяца назад
Jigawatt? Whattt?
@Zeneroth
@Zeneroth 4 месяца назад
China already won by a country mile, which kind of is a good thing for the world really, since the way they produce things it just drops the overall cost of all green products signifiantly for consumers (ex. EVs, batteries, solar panels). Unless you live in the USA I guess lol, since they just raised tarriffs on all those products EVs 100%, 50% solar panels, 50% on semiconductors. The hipocracy is amusing, on one hand all these 1st world countries say we need to get to net positive on carbon emissions on the other hand you make the products why more expensive to buy, as a Canadian really Canada doesn't do this. Clean energy companies aren't just going to pop up in the US like you think they are because of this.
@themdr00
@themdr00 4 месяца назад
👍
@BinSun-wq8kv
@BinSun-wq8kv 4 месяца назад
Why not invite China experts on it?
@richardlee4763
@richardlee4763 4 месяца назад
Because it is a propaganda mechine
@SANN-1969
@SANN-1969 4 месяца назад
Some times human worry and think too much, make use of AI and Robot to build environment, heavy products, cleaning and products and foods fabrication why not, money is not a problem if authority are not greedy from ownership
@harbinger6562
@harbinger6562 4 месяца назад
Good morning ❤️🇶🇦🦾😇
@richardlo4867
@richardlo4867 4 месяца назад
Take a guess.
@MsArgentana
@MsArgentana 4 месяца назад
migrating BIRDS DYING .... all over where there are such engines
@Nine-Signs
@Nine-Signs 4 месяца назад
I can assure you the ecological loss from the massive over consumption of raw resources in order to sustain capitalism's demand for perpetual growth is doing a damned sight more damage to bird populations than wind turbines thrown up in effort to slow the damage we are doing to our climate on behalf of capitalism via turning those perpetually growing raw resources into perpetually growing goods and services in order to realize capitalism's demand for perpetual growth of profits at 3% global average per year which = a doubling in consumption of energy and materials every 33yrs post circa 1750 to date.
@Paul-yh8km
@Paul-yh8km 4 месяца назад
There's a thing called technology and human innovation that prevents this. An example is real time bird migration tracking which can be used to stop individual turbines as the birds pass by and start up again once the area is clear.
@MsArgentana
@MsArgentana 4 месяца назад
@@Paul-yh8km HOPEFULLY
@Rocky-m2c8z
@Rocky-m2c8z 4 месяца назад
God bless Israel 😂😂😂
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