The Race to Build the World’s Fastest Supercomputers | WSJ U.S. vs. China 

Wrong this supercomputer/AI will be used to get an edge in economics and military advancement. This will be the new nuclear weapon. If the people who controls the technology are dominant then chances are, they will use this to expand their agenda.

Unless they use it to build a homicidal AI. Which I wish was entirely a joke.

*What WSJ will not tell you is that China have not released their latest data for the last five years (which is deemed as classified as not worthy of frivolous "race" it is well known in Chinese internet Guess English speaking western people still have yet caught up :) ) that is why America machines were able to "catch up"* By the way, American installed chip ban and sanctions on Chinese companies working on supercomputing since early 2000s and space station since 1980s

cannot be achieved if one thinks the competition is to deter or even suffocate the other.

​@@TG-nx7xe you do realise competition is why you have smartphone or laptop.

I wouldn't be surprised if the size only increased linearly but the computation increased exponentially.

Hahahaha Lol HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA LOL LOL LOL LOL haha hahahaha! !!!!!!

moores law bye bye ):

Exactly! just like my personal computer ... 20 years from now! I hope.

If they want to play it close to the chest, that's fine. But don't claim the world's fastest supercomputer and then show us a pathetic blade with years old 8gig sticks of RAM...

@@iLink8 hahaha good

@@iLink8 I think you thought too highly of Chinese technology. The last I heard about it, they are salvaging chips from all sorts of devices with chip such as Apple II, Sinclair ZX81, Nintado, GamBoy, etc. So what you said is rather exaggerated. China still has decades to catch up to the US. So there is no need to worry about it.

i m sure if their scientists drink coffee at Starbucks, the US gov't would ban Starbucks from selling anything that contains water to the Chinese government.

Soon the US gonna get backfire for that

Chinese do not have any GPUs inside their domestically made supercomputers

@@napobg6842 Wrong. You can easily find Сhinese made GPU compute engines. And they developed them in only three years. Maybe that's why you've missed it.

@@catonpillow There are some but they are so weak that there is no need to even consider them

@@napobg6842 Wrong again. The chiplets made by Biren Technology(A Сhinese GPU firm) are comparable with Nvidia's Ampere flagship.

@@catonpillow They are not even remotely close to Ampere GPUs 🤣🤣🤣🤣

yup, those classic self righteous cxxt’s entitlement

Yeah , but why did America block them ?

@@mitchfukncanfield to try slowdown/hurt china research speed technology on respond of rising tension after Pelosi visit over Taiwan

@@mitchfukncanfield idk, same reason that America wants collab afterward?

Nobody acts surprise. The US wants China to use domestic chips as they will surely know the Chinese supercomputers are inferior to the American ones

Perhaps. Too bad for the world community that China is not more transparent about such things.

nice joke

That's what everybody's really worried about to be honest

It will be able to crack encryptions we thought were impossible

Quantum computers don't work how you think, they may be able to ease certain computations but they are not going to replace conventional computers.

@@zinjanthropus322 a QC would be crazy overkill for conventional tasks like email or word. the essence of encryptions are nothing more than very complex equations, a QC will be able to crack that mathematical formula AKA algorithm AKA computations relatively easily.

@@masterzen107 What I'm saying is calculations to do with a specific type of encryption are the only things quantum computers are known to be better at than conventional computers. In fact a new encryption standard is already being rolled out on conventional computers that quantum computers can't crack.

Correct, Frontier replaced them at the #1 spot.

BS, JAPAN is far behind china and USA, also japanese use US technology, its not japanese supercomputer, from chips and system, so called japan supercomputer are all US made

Nonsense, for the fact that the U.S gives others chance that they never get from others doesn't mean that they do not have their own quality home grown scientists, your kind of talks is what makes racist become even more racist to outsider, your comment is a total nonsense,now the U.S had opened their door to others to come and do their research, something India or China can never do, I respect the Americans honestly,cos many countries if they are like America will hide everything , and will refuse to share ,like the zchinese are doing,the reason why the U.s is cutting off ,the open door policy towards them,cos the Chinese are m3an and unkind.

So its the interest of US to keep India and other countries poor so that brain drain continue.. If you consider the post WW2 immigrants as foreigners, then the percentage is 99%

It’s an advantage, but also disadvantage: USA with a population of over 300 million, couldn’t produce enough talents from its own population. Now USA starts to have problems to accept new immigrants, even legal ones.

US strongest weapon is sanctions. It can be completely unprincipled and use them unilaterally for no reason other to hurt progress.

Too bad many of them go back to their own countries and compete with competitors in the US.

China quit the game just concerned about the USA's fragile heart.

Then why is cerebras not built for any supercomputer in any country if its way faster than 1 exascale?

Connecting their supercomputing Machine to a legacy machine isn't the problem. Their focus in designing the chip wasn't this be able to put it into any supercomputer that is already out there. The supercomputers that are out there are not equipped to handle the chip and that's not their focus, being able to stick their chip in anybody else's supercomputer. They're building their supercomputers that are more powerful leaving Legacy machines behind. Why doesn't Ferrari build engines for Toyota? How do you put a V12 in a Citroën 2cv? I am clueless to answer your question.

@@miyagiryota9238 the speed of their Andromeda computer has 18 zeros.

@@zAlaskaif its so fasr then why it not listed even in top 10

Sorry this supercomputer will only do 27 fps on Crysis.

@@mikelbrenn111 ahh bummer, I'll have to wait for the next super computer to come out then. I require a minimum of 30fps so I can turn on anti aliasing.

they laugh at our comment too as we do to see the super computer 50 years ago

Amazing how many people have no clue that moore's law is dead, and computers aren't getting smaller.

@@blakkwaltz there is a new technology called Quantum computer.

Quantum computers aren't magic. They will only make some calculations faster. You obviously don't know what you're talking about.

lol you mean what China steals? they are nothing but robots without imagination.

competition is always good

The only effort china does putting into technologies, is copying everything from other countries.

Easy when you aggressively steal technology, research and ip

sanction of China clearly show China is about to surpass USA in technology.

@Edwin Brace They are trying to take over the world.

Because China says one of its main goals is to build a military that can crush the USN so that China can do whatever it wants without being bothered with the World Order that among things forbids countries from - Forcibly conquering other countries for the purposes of ruling them and taking their resources - Blocking shipping lanes by claiming maritime territorial rights beyond 12 miles from shore - Raiding fisheries in other countries' protected economic zones China wants to overturn the World Order based on International Rule of Law because as China becomes economically, politically and militarily powerful, China sees no reason not to exercise that power to take what it wants anywhere in the world. International Law is the main obstacle to China's ambitions and is doing everything it can to eliminate it. The basis of USA foreign policy is that International Law should govern behavior not whoever can be the biggest bully. The USA is protective of the World Order because it protects the intreest and rights of every country big or small, strong or weak. China benefitted from the World Order when it was weak following WWII but now believes it has every right to take what it wants now that it's stronger.

@@tonysu8860 America wants to take the world's resources at free will too ! You do realize the U.S and China need each other to thrive. When one thrives the other thrives. A good example is how the Chinese economy is suffering right now. This has caused supply chain issues in the U.S and prices are going up because of it

That comment is kinda lame considering China is going above and beyond to steal everything they can.

做中国人真恶心。

No

It sounds like AMD had 7nm fabricated chips for this project. I can't see how China can compete without using a ton of western tech to even enter the convo.

And your evidence for your claim is?

Can you explain like further. I'm too dumb to understand. Like what is smaller scale that you mentioned?

just keep deceiving yourself. if you are reasonable enough, you should know by now the reason US Sanction China on sell of microchips is due to their competitive edge. they are about to leapfrog USA.

looks like no one knows what you are saiding

It has a peak power draw of 40 megawatts.

@@blakkwaltz $79 Celeron n4020 get get same answers as supercomputer? :)

As of now the US and China are the only 2 nations working to achieve that first. In the US we see the actual work. From China mostly words and claims

Lol US is a failed state now... can't compete so banning everything. This shows how insecure US is

You think that the US can't compete with China in technology?

​@@ulikemyname6744 obviously they can't... they're so insecure nowadays that they keep banning every competitor 😊😅

@@rohitsinghyxrs I think it is very very logical. After all China is not just banning but also limiting what the competition can do in their country. On top of that China is actively stealing and subsidizing their own companies which is very unfair practice especially the stealing part. As for tech, despite all the IPO theft, China is yet to match the Americans. The US companies still dominate most of the tech fields. China is suffering immensely from the bans as well.

​@@rohitsinghyxrswell ban them to keep them away from you! It's not designated to stop them, but rather slow them down! It's actually pretty smart amd China would do the same if it could!

What is the name of the Japanese supercomputer?

Fugaku the Japanese supercomputer is rated at 400 petaflops. This is frontier rated at over 1000 petaflops it's much faster than fugaku.

They used to dominate back then when they were the few countries that produced their own domestic computers.

they used to but given how fast microchip advancement happens, it becomes very difficult to hold that spot for long

@@Vapor817 Yeah, but the WSJ made it a China vs US thing when it'd have been more informative to compare the state of the field at the time the vid was made.

the video is only 6 minutes long and can be played at a faster speed. maybe you're just slow.

@@deforged I posted two minutes after release. If you sped it up that quick you didn’t catch the content.

@@dannhatesusernames exactly 🤣. Why it's not useful to argue on RU-vid

The architecture of these super computers is actually quite simple so no way near AI so don’t worry.

How do you know that? Have you asked a computer whether it has conscious thoughts?

Who cares

@@subasthapa4839you it seems lol

Doubt it, If they take this long to “catch up”

@@jtgd only the Dutch has the lithograph technology....China has being regularly beating other countries in top supercomputers for quite a while until Summit took back the top spot thru sheer brute force

Considering China is like 10 years behind in chip architecture so I very much doubt that.

@@jtgd actually, SMIC (Chinese semiconductor manufacturer) had being making 7nm chip since last year via packaging, using older lithography equipment. But more than that, you are assuming that supercomputer architecture somehow predicates on design of semiconductor chip. Supercomputer design has more to do with computer design. Semiconductors are only one small facet of overall computer design.

@@napobg6842 Correction 2 years.

@Nonsense User 1 china born chinesse and india born indian in team US vs 2 india born indian (working in chinesse company ) and mainland chinesee...

Don't be happy..... He's just an employee and probably media spokesperson.

typical brag love Indian.

Not even at the lowest settings

My bank tell me NO long time ago.🙃

Shadhguru who?

He too is an Indian

@@d_reeves1133 Sadhguru, is an Indian yoga guru and spirituality mentor.

Very easy. It is because China wants to get food by stealing the food out of other peoples' tables.

@@napobg6842 their tables have been burnt and destroyed by the alleged victims who also happen to be the biggest stealers of all time. I assume you have no problem with that

@@rongarcia2128 Elaborate because you literally said nothing

Why? You are watching a video pertaining to AMERICAN supercomputers. Learn *OUR* terminology. Why should we have to cater to irrelevant measurements? Except for science (because science uses metric system *ONLY*)

Exceptional.

brain drain def happens for china also, the US is benefiting from the worlds talent.

@Bruhhh Channelchinas research is severely underfunded, research institutes are state controlled, opportunities are very limited compared to the US.

@Zaydan Naufal when last time u heard balkan BUSINESSMAN