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It's just further evidence that most people don't deserve the comforts they enjoy.

It's just not feasible! 🤷🏾‍♂️ and we are not ment to live on mars, God created us for the EARTH! That's it

Then there are the G0dd@mn @$$H0L3$ who think human space exploration is "unnecessary" because we can just send "robots" NO. The human race has an obligation to go to these places. It is NOT satisfactory to ONLY rely on robots.

Need to Take Care of Our Planet First!! Otherwise we will be just a Virus to whatever we find out there!! True!!

@@iamBlackGambit God doesn’t exist. 😂 Imagine still believing in a god in the 21st century

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We’re losing people here. right now my guy ….

Exploration is a given. The Chinese don't have a large enough rocket to put every aspect of a Mars mission in it. But it does have enough Rockets to do them separately. But then, China is not in a race.

I was going to comment something similar! So much revolutionary tech birthed from the space division. I wish more people could see all the positives out of it...

These anti-space fools will one day suffer the humiliation of being proven dead wrong

People don't realize how much technology we take for granted in our everyday lives is a product of warfare.

@@aliensoup2420 Just think how much more technology would exist if our focus was pure research with the goal of advancing into space, and exploration of the solar system instead of new ways to annihilate ourselves into oblivion along with this beautiful planet.

Dang 😮… that’s a lot of stuff !!

Try this. We can get to the Moon and back in less than a week. The roundtrip to Mars would be at leat 2+ years, if the people could have food and water for that time, and not get sick.

It’s less likely that you get shot on a road trip though.

@@wordwarrior2350 it's not a problem. 5 people * 10 liter a day * 730 days = 36,5 tons of water. 1 space ship can easily carry 100 tons to mars. (ofc you don't need that much water, because 80% of the water will be recycled.)

@@24AK Please think of it this way: You can´t even write a proper sentence with a capital letter at the beginning, the proper use of commas, and a period at the end, but you are a Mars, (With a small "m".), expert. By the way the round trip would take more like three years and there are other things like food and exposure to possible diseases, Etc. Did you volunteer? I doubt it. You have to get a HS diploma first, right?

@@arealperson641 Where did you get that information? Maybe if the road trip is through South America or Africa. Please try to get your facts straight. I would much rather drive from El Paso to Argentina than blast off on a rocket for a R/T to Mars. Ask an expert for the real figures. Give them my example. By the way, I can carry guns and bodyguards, actually two good looking women who love me, with bullet proof vests to Argentina and buy a bullet proof car. add that in Genius. NASA will prepare the way they do, so I can prepare the way I want to, right?

I know our species needs something to rally around

@@ClockMaster_3100 Thanks for the reply man.I agree.

Give it till 2030 people will be on mars probably

You think it would be amazing to watch humanity’s best and brightest die horrifically slow and painful deaths?

@@chikapunk4340No, they won’t.

@@shacktime why don’t you think so

Oh, I don't think you should envy them lol. I mean, c'mon, sure they got some cool moon landings but they got them in incredibly poor quality - plus, for 50 years, they never did it again. Also, you can observe that!! Artemis 3 is landing on the moon in 2025, sending 2 humans to the surface.

Optimus prime. 🤣

It needs to work first..... Stop dreaming

@@Batman-vr6jp this just the beginning or beta stage

If spaceX can land a 100 foot lawn dart from space on a platform in the middle of Oceane, don't you think they can make robots that can make mars possible?

That’s a much better plan but given how little atmosphere and gravitation Mars has people simply won’t be able to survive there. No magnetosphere, either.

the us public simply won't have the sustained support for space exploration unless they say China and/or Russia is also doing it (better when both are doing or have done it). Twisting the truth a little bit is a small price to pay.

@@xiangyuanpeng8120 That's very true - they come right out and say it in this NBC report. We would not have made it to the Moon if were not in a race with Russia. Now it's Mars, and we're in a much friendlier competition with China - but it's still a race. The US has experience, but China is a technological and manufacturing powerhouse, and is gaining rapidly. China expects to walk on the Moon by 2030. The next 10 years are going to be exciting times - US and China moonbases first, and then on to Mars.

​​​@@ianbruce9603 there is news recently coming out from SCMP china already in production in factory for their EXPENDABLE rocket to Catch up of SpaceX Reusable rocket capacity and building their own Constellation. So they already planned to make 52 rocket in a year. Mind you they are not reusable so it had higher cost and it seems China can afford that and their Reusable rocket technology was still in development so probably the reason for the factory meanwhile the building the Reusable Technology.

very professional comment,

Russians had successful missions to Venus!

true. evolution can be very fast sometimes. Doesn't always take millions of years to do it

@@ClockMaster_3100 Yep it can happen fast. There was a documented case this century when scientists were able to observe a new species of bird evolve. I imagine is a baby is born and raised in space or on mars it will have minor adaptations that make it better suited to survive there. When those people reproduce their offspring will have even more.

@@Bitchslapper316 just look at the astronauts on the space station and how they change up there

@@Bitchslapper316 yea the only unfortunate side of that is that person would never be able to visit earth or any high gravity world because their bodies would be adapted to a low gravity environment. Well unless they can condition themselves

I agree. I don't believe we can just randomly go back and forth to different planets for long periods. We will mostly stay in the place we are adapted to live in. Martians may become a different species. We may even use science to change human DNA for life in space. It's illegal now but if China starts colonizing space with enhanced people, you better believe the US will follow suit to not get left behind.

True, the Starship test was a unqualified success. A failure would have been a big explosion on the launch pad.

They are still mad he bought Twitter and stopped the censorship of Americans. The left doesn't like Elon because he believe in free speech. Super weird how that works and how they try to make him out to be some crazy MAGA shill. Nothing wrong with MAGA but he isn't a republican last time I checked.

maybe you just learnt about it, but we learnt about Nerva in highschool in the 90s. It really wasn't a secret

Zero chance of that.

Space Shuttle Enterprise: 🗿

Hmmm 🤔

Among

Imagine how much more Musk could do if the Biden admin wasn't trying to ruin the guy due to a difference of opinions.

SpaceX is in the lead but the race isn't over. There is the moon, then Mars then martian colony. All are difficult. All are a competition. When this is done, there will be new races

Considering the amount of problems their raptor engines have, they are leading the back of the line. Every single milestone date they presented has failed.

@@rebelcrusader9973 What? no one comes close to Space X. Have you looked into the process they use? Not sure how they are leading the back when literally everyone even Chinese companies are just copying Elon's ideas.

​@Rebel Crusader He has high hopes, they are still doing a ton and having success. Raptors are getting better and most are not the newest models same as the ship. Give it some time, rockets are hard. Look at all the success Falcon has

How is that .5 can you explain?

@@azeem5471 The United States budget is 7 trillion dollars while NASA’s budget is 23 billion.

Also, the most serious large-scale Mars plans are not from Nasa but from SpaceX, which is paying from it's own pockets (mostly through monthly subscriptions of Starlink customers).

@@jwstolkaceX's Mars plan is stupid and they know it. They can't be serious when they show how to get to mars will require 7 rockets, one to land and 6 to store fuel - all because space x is using 100 year old technology. You want to go to mars you invent new engines that use new fuels that's what space x should be doing, that's what nasa is doing. A nuclear rocket engine can be used to travel back and forth between earth and mars for 20 years and make the trip in half the time, space x requires 7 rockets to get to mars and 3 to get back on each trip. And to do this Space X needs so much fuel that almost all rocket fuel the United stars can manufacture will need to be sent direct to space x

Yeah. They interviewed the son of the main scientist on that project and he claimed a different reason it was canceled. He said they developed a way to make cheap nukes very easily and they were afraid that tech would leak out. If true I'm guessing that is the reason fusion energy went from "10 years away" to 60+ and counting. The issue with fusion is creating the environment to start the reaction, the scientists at the time envisioned using mini atom bombs to create the reaction. That seems to have been taken away as an option.

I saw that being used before in the docu movie Evacuate Earth.

we arent running out of space, colonizing deserts, under the oceans and the poles would be easier than living in space......such an ignorant quote.

@@eabutler6861 Are you Stephen Hawking? I don't think so

@@justinratcliffe947 On Earth, ALL our eggs, literally, are in one basket - one KT sized asteroid (or nuclear war) away from extinction. The more we spread out, the greater our chance of surviving as a species. If the West gives up on Space - we can live under the thumb of the Chinese military space stations and lunar station, trapped on earth in a dystopian hellscape.

​@@justinratcliffe947 it was a quote dude... Like seriously... No one should have to say that to you. Lol

Running out of space? 😂😂😂 Drive across Canada ffs. We got space.

Lol why do you all buy this nonsense? They’ve been telling us we would be taking rocket taxis to space in 2012. They are lyinggggg. Every year they say ‘we are 15 years away’

Mostly successful😂. That “mostly” is doing serious lifting.

@@tatata1543 nah. Primary goal as stated was to clear the launch pad, and then learn from whatever happens next. That happened successfully. Nobody involved thought of it as a failure, other than a bit more damage to the launch pad than expected. But then the plans for a better launch pad were already in the works.

@@Seehart The launchpad was wrecked, they tried and failed to blow the rocket up after it went completely out of control soon after launch and now both the FAA and Spacex are being taken to court. Characterizing that as a “success” is Musk levels of spin. Ignore all the fanboys cheering like idiots and have a look at Musk’s reaction when it eventually blew up, that’s not the reaction of a guy looking at success.

Actual journalism, what a concept

Uranus has been deeply probed.

We cant just push a rocket deep in Uranus.

at this rate, we are not gonna see the manned exploration of the outer solar system until the late 21st century

It is your nature to be tribal. That will never change.

@@hawkdsl that is true

USA!

Yes, It -although sadly- makes you wish for a conflict for the sake of scientific innovation.

If we ever make contact with another species on a different planet, they won't care if we are Americans, Chinese, Russian or Irish. They will only see us as various types of humans...just as their race may have variations. So yes, to other species on other planets, we are one species. We are the ones who make the separation of various countries.

It won't be live though because of the light-speed transmission lag and we may not even have the interplanetary data bandwidth to do a livestream. We don't have it right now, certainly.

@@Andreas-gh6is if they gonna do this they gonna have to find away for technology to transmitt that far back to us if not then this iwill be known as a suicidle mission

Btw, SpaceX's "Starships", are simply conventional, liquid-fueled, chemical rockets, that explode quite often.

Sure thing, they haven't even launched yet. This is all such a pipe dream. But musk said it so here we are😂😂

@@joshlewis575 What are you on about, you might want to catch up, it launched over a month ago for it's first TEST flight...

lol. Musk is a product of zero % lending. his starships are just a con job.

@@rjswasand they still have 5-10 years of engineering challenges to solve. You’re obviously an arm chair aerospace engineer.

Hopefully it will be.

earth will always be more livable than mars.

Or, by then, he might say, "Earth? What a sh-thole!" (actor Ron Pearlman's line in the last "Aliens" movie).

A negative greeny no doubt ? So sad !

They haven’t done it yet but they want to! It’s called isam: in-space servicing assembly and manufacturing

For some reason Nasa has a really tight budget

Which is why that is the plan. It’s called Artemis

Any rocket scientist would look at delta-V instead of distance. If you take into account that Mars has a thin atmosphere that can be used to slow down, Earth to Mars only requires a bit more delta-V than Earth to Moon. I agree with sending help is easier when traveling to the Moon, but if you send 10 ships to Mars at the same time, there are 9 that can provide help. And SpaceX is planning to send not 10 but 1000's every time Earth and Mars line up. They won't be alone.

@@perspective8369 NASA's initial overall plan, anyway. I think we have at least a half or more century of (hopefully, largely scientific) business to do on the Moon, first, before we ever send actual people to Mars.

@@jwstolk How is it that Mars's very thin atmosphere makes it easier to slow down?

@@samr.england613 the drag slows it down by a lot

At my age, growing up with the original "space race" with Russia, it's hard to believe we still haven't established a moon base. We've spent the last 50 years stuck in low Earth orbit.

They have moon bases already lads. They are just drip feeding us

@@kenhoward3512 what's even more ridiculous is that we have had the technology to build one since the 90s

@@ClockMaster_3100 Even earlier. The U.S army had their engineers design and lay out the plans for a moon base that would house 20 soldiers and have a garage full of vehicles. The issue was the cost was enormous. It would have taken something like 100 saturn 5 launches.

That’s the plan with Artemis the current program

Bro that writers room called it

Yeah, my parents lived to see the first man on the moon, I would like to see another small step for mankind in my lifetime. Even if we can colonize the moon. I think Mars is a big leap. I feel if man can feel comfortable with commuting to the moon, it will make it better to go to mars. Cause I really would like to see the moon as a destination for civilization in my lifetime.

Way better than the one we got for sure. My little sister is 50 and no one has gone beyond LEO in her lifetime. They making a 4th season of FAM?

You jest now. But you're probably not far off the mark.

@@AntonioPerez-zk2mb Someone needs to start seeing obvious solutions. We need to go to one of the Mars moons FIRST! Set up a base. From there, we can have humans living in a protective area either dug in, or there may be depressions that can be roofed. Once that's done, we send in the Robots to the surface. The distance from Mars's moon to the surface at laser light speed would be fine for the teli-operators living on Phobos.

Correct. Mars 2 crash-landed on the planet (rover was destroyed), and Mars 3 ceased transmissions 20 seconds after landing (Rover was never deployed). China, however, nailed it on their first mission, so major props to them. Mars ain't easy. Mars eats landers for lunch.

@@ianbruce9603 China is standing on the shoulders of giants with decades of space advancements from different nations. Mars 3 craft was literally the first to land, give them a break. They had to actually invent this technology.

@@Michael-it6gb I don't disagree with that. And that said, Russia's Venera probes and landers for Venus were an unquestioned and unparalleled success - they just haven't had the same luck with Mars.

LOL

That isn’t taking into account Purchasing Power Parity which accounts for costs if labor, matériels, and utilities in different countries. With that it evens things out a little more, but the US is still far in the lead by spending and provides the vast majority of space services.

It's not 41 billion, it's under 20. You're counting space force and spending which is military and used for things like military satellites and LEO warfare. China and Russia also expend an enormous amount of resources on the same thing. They also don't disclose their expenditures on it.

@@Bitchslapper316 He pointed out the separation clearly I thought. His point was the total space budget, which naturally includes Space Force.

@@hawkdsl That's not a space exploration budget though. Space force deals with military satellites which are used to support the military on earth. NASA is space exploration. He doesn't know what other countries spend on military satellites because it's a military expenditure and they don't publish it. China has as many satellites in orbit as the U.S has so we can automatically conclude they expend similar resources doing it.

Imagine how much more would have been done if NASA hadn't wasted so much time and billions on "others" like Boeing failing to deliver all while Musk was well ahead. Biden didn't even invite Elon to the white house for EVs and Tesla is the best. They don't seem to like him. Also, the biggest issue the US faces when it comes to Tech/IP is CCP espionage. Chinese spies have already been caught trying to steal nuclear research secrets. The government isn't very good at stopping spies and the US loses nearly 1 trillion yearly in tech espionage. My fear is that we will develop everything just to have them steal it and pour billions more to make sure they win. Honestly, China has 50 hackers for every 1 in the west. They are bleeding us dry and unfortunetly some western companies just sell or transfer it over which is how they have caught up.

Without oxygen

It is

And they haven't even tried living under water yet.

No Plant Life 🌳

The thinking is, That humanity isn't putting all its eggs in one basket so to speak, if something were to happen to earth, Humanity wouldn't go extinct. Super volcano, Nuclear war, War, Pollution, etc

We know how to shield people from radiation. It shouldn't be an insurmountable problem.

​@@xChemistryFTWx And there's that Mushy Musk Mind "it's so easy!". The Joe Rogan Idiocracy is here now and

we routinely keep astronauts on the ISS for 6 months on end. Yes these missions are still in earth's magnetic field, but we do have a lot of expereince and data on long term effects of people in space, and through Artemis, we will get a lot of expereince with crewed exploration outside of Earth's magnetic field. The radiation is bad, but not nuclear melt down bad. Honestly, the largest problem we have is keeping astronauts mentally healthy through the mission's duration.

​@Java It is easy. Radiation shielding is well understood.

You forgot to mention how totally great for human health zero G is. The low gravity of Mars will work wonders for the health of the Astronauts. After a year of one third Earth gravity those astronauts will be in fabulous physical shape. I bet they will all be competing in weight lifting contests when they get back to Earth.

I dont think SpaceX were expecting to destroy it in a few minutes.

I agree, could be a worthy investment for the long term, but in the current context, it almost feels like a sideline to extend the time-clock further.

That's nonsense, Falcon 9 had a very streamlined development that used standard methods and designs, the only aspect of iterative development was the booster landing and recovery, which is something that's always secondary, after the two stages do their job and get payload to orbit, which is its base design and purpose. It had no failures in first flights, and I also heard that not only do none of the people working on Starship worked on F9 before, they never worked on any launch vehicle. These F9 comparisons that are propagandized everywhere hold no water whatsoever as they're nothing but false equivalence fallacies. Starship IFT was nothing but a failure to anyone who doesn't drink the coolade and knows their stuff. Like for everything, having a measure and a balance is key, and going all out on iterative development from scratch, making the core design is not looking good at all, they're going overboard with it. Even an ex-SpaceX veteran Ben Kellie called the flight crappy and a failure. There's a fine line between crappy and scrappy. The general management of this project has been inadequate, impulsive, and shortsighted. I predict it will end up either something unrecognizable from what it is currently and planned, or a total failure. Time will tell.

And you are an expert at WHAT? Making excuses for E. Musk?

@@wordwarrior2350 and I suppose that you have extensive knowledge about rocketry, in particular SpaceX and the Starship development system. I guess you know better than the Whole of SpaceX because you’ve watch a few notable televised NASA missions. What they described is what has been observed and communicated by SpaceX and the community of people observing them from the start of the program. This is exactly what was expected by the hardcore space nerd.

spacex is gonna go bankrupt before they ever get to mars, probably the moon.

Musk is CLOWNSHOES 🤡🤡🤡 LOL

It would be cheaper and easier to build a bunker habitat on the south pole that would survive virtually anything short of an asteroid directly hitting it.

​@@Andreas-gh6isI agree. Mars is a dead world.

This is not possible. Even if you built a dome, the quality of life would be terrible.

@@basketballbicker8933 still better than anything on Mars. It's way cheaper to bring in construction materials so you can basically construct any kind of building Humans already spend their time in. The sun can even be used as a direct heat source, as well as indirect. Of course, the quality of life may be a little less. Better than no life at all though, and the point of that habitat is to survive when the rest of the Earth is unsurvivable....

@@Andreas-gh6is I agree. If we have to live in a dead world, better it be one we are already on and have infinite knowledge about.

Yep. They always put their lives on the line to go to space. We need explorers to push the envelope.

If you listen to Nelson continuing his demonizing every single success in Chinese space program, you think it is possible?!!

competition is natural, it is impossible for all of us to work together in harmony.

Yes, I totally agree with Mr. Dreadstone that competition is good and natural. I'm just so sick and tired of constantly hearing someone(Nelson) demonizing someone else's effort in space. You can call them competition if you like. Russians and Chinese are humans too. Why is their effort always considered evil and military-related and only the effort of NASA is considered benign, innocent and for the good of all human kind?!!

It's always in the 'future'!

Hi Reverbex. I assume you're the one that gave me a thumbs-up. Musk and all who follow him are either stupid, or just naive. It's so sad. Even NASA is duped by Musk. None of these milestones is going to happen in the claimed timelines that these people are saying.

this guy knows what's up, based megaproject enjoyer

I feel like an artificial magnetic field for a planet isn’t quite realistic is it? I mean right now, like next few decades. I certainly hope we do something like that one day. I think it was kurzgesagt who did a video on terraforming mars

welcome to year 3023

@@finn54123 It's actually not that hard (Diameter of Mars is smaller than Earth) It can be done with existing superconducting technology and powered by solar. About 4 or 5 loops of wire around Mars can make a small field that is sufficient. Try making a compass an you'll find out that Earths magnetic field is actually also very weak.

Phobos and Deimos are just a few km wide so there is not much mass to catapult into mars

Well your gonna have to wait!😅 😂

They just need to focus on building larger space stations in a ring configuration and spin THEM instead of all these bonkers ideas about terraforming environmentally hostile planets and other objects.

what's funny is that is actually a viable thing to do. it provides natural protection from radiation.

@@AntonioPerez-zk2mb I mean cant you just build a Oniel cylinder within a long asteroid and spin the asteroid

@@ClockMaster_3100 Just build a station that you can engineer specifically for habitation with built in life support features throughout its superstructure. It's more cost effective and easier to do from an engineering standpoint than trying to stabilize and hollow out some asteroid. Just think about it very thoroughly.

@@Zarkiola at least it’s not tax dollars this time

@Zarkiola millions. Billions is when congress and the public cancel the program because they do not understand the reasoning behind it and how it all works. A rocket is a few million dollars. A program is several Billion.

Fission ?

@@ClaudiaMitchell-jn7fw A different engine that alters the particles in its core in order to make gravity not a problem, remove strong vibrations, and a safer and faster launch. It's just an opinion, happy day.

@@LL-bg4vl Something internally spins so fast, it eliminates gravity ?

Quit day dreaming

Lava tubes are all over the planet, just waiting for us. No need to live in cramped spaces. They are Huge!

Yes, or perhaps just grab headlines and run away with the money bag (subsidies included)

@Carl Weezer again are we waiting for?

NASA is afraid to fail. That is why each experimentation and research takes decades even though it should only take a few years if they become very aggressive. Any failure especially loss of life could cause more decrease in the NASA budget or worse ordered cancellation of a project or NASA itself by the government. And the anti-NASA politicians will have a field day if ever something life-threatening incident would happen to any of NASA's projects.

Let's shoot for both

When basically every astrophysicist agrees that the best way to get to Mars sustainably is to use the moon as a jumping off point, what makes you so much more informed than them?

A corporate controlled mars colony? Sounds like science fiction? Not for much longer.

There's going to be all types of colonies on Mars. Whether corporate, government, or even religious, it's going to be there on Mars.