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The Raspberry Pi 5 standard case and active cooler dont work well together. Didnt discover this until filming for another video. didnt see any mention of this on any reseller sites.
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@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
The case is meant to be a protective housing for use with a fan and/or heat sink. I've searched high and low and no where is it stated or mentioned that the active cooler works in conjunction with the included fan. Its one or the other. Most videos and reviews will state the active cooler is enough. however under demanding applications such as over clocking or running demanding applications for 3-4 hours or any length of time the cpu will be at throttle levels of 77-85. this has been tested with the active cooler within the case. Using it outside the case with open airflow will give you better temps. My stress test included several bench marks and ps2 emulation on the raspberry pi 5 which is one of the most demanding things you can run right now. you wont find this info anywhere because not many people have ran ps2 emulation or demanding apps for more than an hour or even while overclocked. im using the microcenter acrylic case from the pi4 with the additional. fan. my idle non clocked temps are 28 degrees. in over clocking and running ps2 emulation my temps reached 56 degrees. normal idel temp for a pi 5 is 45-55 degrees non overclocked. if I was not applying my cooling method with thermal paste I would have exceeded the thermal threshold. The stock case could have been designed for better air flow. Im aware the top comes off but you need an additional fan with the case to keep it cool. Especially under demanding circumstances which most customers have not ran. running a 15 second bench test to establish temps on a case means absolutely nothing. try 6-8 hours ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ruXQ4eYh4dA.htmlsi=xOoB6Fv5DFtgfF0n
@TylerDurden404
@TylerDurden404 8 месяцев назад
can you do a video temp test with -active cooler and case -active cooler and case (with the case fan maybe mounted outside of the case) -active cooler without case
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 6 месяцев назад
@TylerDurden404 i performed a test myself. I haven’t uploaded any test results or videos but it’s definitely nothing to be proud of. You definitely need to go with another option.
@ElsiervoDePeFKNerre
@ElsiervoDePeFKNerre 6 месяцев назад
@@TylerDurden404 eso sería un estupendo video pues son pocos los que los hacen diciendo la verdad pues muchos de ellos sólo muestran los artículos pues son auspiciados por su manufacturero y no dan una opinión real y menos hacen las pruebas pertinentes y lo documentan, sería maravilloso encontrar esos videos y así informarse mejor para tomar una decisión bien informada para que cuando nos decidamos por comprar ya saber estos datos y ir mejor preparado y comprar lo que de verdad funciona.
@formetoknow540
@formetoknow540 4 месяца назад
Thanks for the insight have u found a solution for a case that goes in conjunction with the active cooler?
@arcanethink
@arcanethink 9 месяцев назад
You have to pop out the transparent part of the case to use it with the active cooler !!! That's how it's designed !!!
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
We know and that’s not the issue as to why I made The video if u watched
@radu1006
@radu1006 9 месяцев назад
The clear part of the case comes off easily. The case comes with a cooler and a small radiator that you can use. You have to choose the bit cooler bought separately or the one that comes with the case. Pretty simple.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 7 месяцев назад
Well aware as mentioned in pinned post
@JazzTechie
@JazzTechie 9 месяцев назад
Yeah - maybe have a version of the case that just has a hole positioned directly above the official heatsink’s fan. Could actually cut some acrylic to make one, or even print a new top. Or include two more heatsinks in the regular kit lol.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
yup! it could have been designed to work with it and add more heatsinks in the original case which makes more sense. the other cases provide at least 3 heat sinks
@JazzTechie
@JazzTechie 9 месяцев назад
Geekworm has an “armor aluminum” case for the pi 5 that I like way better. The entire case is a giant active heatsink.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
i saw it. explain computers did a review. there temps r still higher than mine
@JazzTechie
@JazzTechie 9 месяцев назад
@@kiodiekin - he reviewed the “passive cooler” version (no fan). There’s “active cooler” versions that have one or more fans on top. Also geekworm, not geeekpi (two different places). Geekworm’s version has the better design - complete with an opening for pcie.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
@@JazzTechie I’ve seen both even on leepsp
@xforeverknightx
@xforeverknightx 10 месяцев назад
That's why they've made it so that the clear part pops out so you can use it with the active cooler if you want. That's how mines set up overclocked and hasn't gone above 55c (might get hotter when used for retropie)
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 10 месяцев назад
U need the fan for cooling as well.
@xforeverknightx
@xforeverknightx 10 месяцев назад
Updated my post to say it's how mines set up and never goes above 55c
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 10 месяцев назад
@@xforeverknightx weve been using retropie and temps r 55-68 especially with ps2 emulation. And temps rise.
@xforeverknightx
@xforeverknightx 10 месяцев назад
@@kiodiekin how did you manage to get retropie working I thought there where no builds yet.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 10 месяцев назад
@@xforeverknightx check my other videos and playlists
@vadergamer7722
@vadergamer7722 10 месяцев назад
Duck tape it!! 😂😂😂😂
@DavidHernandez-cj8kl
@DavidHernandez-cj8kl 10 месяцев назад
😅
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 10 месяцев назад
lol drimmel
@nana-te5bp
@nana-te5bp 10 месяцев назад
Bad design. no screws. im finding other cases online that has the correct design for use with an active cooler. why may the dumb decision for people customers not to use the active cooler with there protective case....
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 10 месяцев назад
U would think they would have added screws as well
@DavidHernandez-cj8kl
@DavidHernandez-cj8kl 9 месяцев назад
A little more effort and they could have designed it to work. I bet it gets really hot
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
Exactly
@ruirosado6289
@ruirosado6289 10 месяцев назад
Raspberry Pi has a RU-vid channel. You can get answers for some of those questions over there. The videos are a bit lengthy but i think that they're worthwhile. In summary, it's all about if you're going to use a hat or not. The new POE hat is 'L' shaped but other hats won't be. They say they know other manufacturers will make all sort of cases but they want peopple to have one more option. About the cooling, the heat sink you showed is really small, too small in my opinion, however, just to get things straight, usualy, only CPUs need cooling, unless some other chip has some issue like the USB controller on the Pi 4, or a power regulator overheats. What i mean is that we've been shoved with cooling solutions that are not needed in most cases.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 10 месяцев назад
👍
@successfulrepresentative6400
@successfulrepresentative6400 10 месяцев назад
I thought the same thing guess I’ll have to cancel one or keep the other. They look like they are suppose to work together. The case is suppose to protect it. Does look strange when they could have incorporated the design by making it sit higher for a custom fit
@DavidHernandez-cj8kl
@DavidHernandez-cj8kl 10 месяцев назад
Flawed design
@sml2238
@sml2238 9 месяцев назад
they do work together, you just don't use both fans together, you remove the case fan if you wanna use the active cooler. this is by design...as for people who just by the case they have a cooling solution. for those that buy the active cooler, you don't need the case fan. it's not very hard to tell that this was an intentional design choice or compromise not flaw. that's why the case fan/plastic is removable...
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
@@sml2238with demanding applications you need the additional fan and the case creates more heat issues anyway especially when over clocked. U won’t see many videos on this and that’s why I made this video. Under high use you will thrills even with the active cooler
@sml2238
@sml2238 9 месяцев назад
@@kiodiekin true. i just feel that those use cases are more fringe and those people would either mod the case, or get something more robust. i think the design is fine of the case for average use cases. it was a design feature/choice/compromise though clearly, not a flaw IMO was my only point. I just didnt feel the level of product bashing was deserved considering. but to each their own. cheers.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
@@sml2238 the product could have been designed to work with the active cooler. It gets hotter in the case and temps rise. It’s a bad design to even use in stressful or mediocre situations. Especially after a few hours. I’ve been testing high end apps and people are already throttling with no case and the active cooler
@KX2U
@KX2U 10 месяцев назад
They may comer out with an extension that goes in the middle to add room for both, or maybe someone will make a 3D printable one.,
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 10 месяцев назад
Hopefully. That would Make sense
@PiManiac
@PiManiac 10 месяцев назад
For very basic use, (No Overclock and nothing Stressful) that case is at least Cheap. Other than that, I find it one of the worst cases ever for Pi4 and now Pi5. Try a CPUBURN stress test and watch it throttle.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 10 месяцев назад
It’s already at 77
@austingarland8242
@austingarland8242 9 месяцев назад
I get where you’re coming from, but the official case top comes out specifically for use of the active cooler. If you didn’t buy the active cooler, then cool you got a single fan and heat sink. If you do buy the *upgrade* active cooler, there is no need for the single fan and you get the multi-chip heat sink. I do wish they had added a separate top in the box for use with the active cooler instead of leaving an open top.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
I’m aware of how the official Case works. But no where in documentation does it mention the active cooler can’t work with the case fan. Secondly it needs the fan for cooling especially inside the case you’ll see in my upcoming vids
@austingarland8242
@austingarland8242 9 месяцев назад
@@kiodiekin​​⁠hmm. I’ve seen multiple videos of regular case with single fan vs regular case with active cooler and of course active cooler wins. I’ll be interested to see what you come up with.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
@@austingarland8242 check My previous video on the pi case.
@Roy_1
@Roy_1 10 месяцев назад
A couple of other videos have discussed this. One guy modded his case with a clear top to work with the active cooler. Raspberry pi should have been much clearer with their info on this though. Obviously that's why they sell the active cooler separate. The active cooler is designed to work without the case, but you can use it inside of the case if you remove the fan.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 10 месяцев назад
ya the active cooler heat sink is pretty much a needed item for it. i mean its not gonna protect the pi at all. they need an official case designed to work with it. waiting on reviews is def not ideal when most of us bought it at launch. heres the option to my acrylic case. amzn.to/3TcAb1T my temps overclocked are 30 degrees idle max 53 at 3000! gpu 1000 mghz
@rosslomath
@rosslomath 9 месяцев назад
It was quite obvious that's why it was an either or, basically just use a pi 4 fan on the gpio and put the case fan on the outside... simples.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
@@rosslomath I already have a better solution and my temps r the lowest around at 28
@Razor_Burn
@Razor_Burn 10 месяцев назад
I can see your frustration as most of the videos only show the active cooler without a case but they did make a video about the new case which explains that the official case was designed to use the fan as improved venting and you can remove the clear plastic cover that houses the fan for passive cooling. A comment mentioned that the active cooler can be used inside the case if you remove the clear plastic but not recommended as they went with the metal heatsink + fan for better cooling which makes sense. The active cooler fan is rated to 50,000 hours of use so should see long life and I expect no different as it will get regular use since the thermals from the new chip aren't great compared to similar ARM chips. The case is also stackable so you can make a tower with a few PIs and the HAT can be installed on top or inside the case if you remove the clear plastic cover.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 10 месяцев назад
It’s not cool enough when u over clock. We’ve already over clocked retropie on this and people r reaching near thermals without a case with ps2 emulation. My open air case gets 28-53 degrees. The case is made to protect it. Although it adds heat the active cooler alone doesn’t provide protection. I just bench marked this and the temps were over 69. Not a good sign for long term use in a continuous fashion.
@Volker-Dirr
@Volker-Dirr 10 месяцев назад
@@kiodiekin If you run Intel or AMD CPUs with full workload, then they are even over 80°C and I run them many many hours over many years with that temperature. Some of them are even allowed to run at over 100°C.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 10 месяцев назад
@@Volker-Dirr those chips r made to run hotter even my x1 sbc can go over 105
@Volker-Dirr
@Volker-Dirr 10 месяцев назад
@@kiodiekin Yes, and the Pi chip is designed to run up to 80°C without problems and up to 85°C with reduced speed. Why do you think that the temp must be below 69°C? The design of the chip is up to 80°C without problems.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 10 месяцев назад
@@Volker-Dirr because this was only running for 5 mins and if I watch my other videos temps increase with demanding apps over time especially while in the case. Guys testing r already getting 77 degrees with the top off. And in some cases the fan doesn’t spin. And this is only after a few mins of game play
@jny78
@jny78 10 месяцев назад
Just take the piece off the top. It fits. I did it with mine
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 10 месяцев назад
yea but with ps2 and overclocking temps r still too high
@TylerDurden404
@TylerDurden404 8 месяцев назад
@@kiodiekin mount the case fan on the outside of the case..
@KX2U
@KX2U 10 месяцев назад
I ordered the active cooler and the power supply but I 3D printed several different cases in a few different colors. I will mount this under a shelf I have and connect ALL my ham radio gear to it with a 55" monitor. Looking forward to it being in operation.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 10 месяцев назад
Thanks I’ve got other videos planned 28 degrees is a big difference compared to 77
@frustratedalien666
@frustratedalien666 8 месяцев назад
They are not designed to work together but you do need the active cooler and a case, it can be any case, or else you risk shorting something out on the SBC. I've had that happen in the past and lost a Pi3b+. The case fan is nearly useless, though, so you definitely need the active cooler or a huge hitsink. I've seen an all aluminium case that doubles as a passive heatsink which works well as long as you have good contact between the aluminium block and the processor.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 8 месяцев назад
Oh of course I have an open air case with fan and the active cooler. So far every case I’ve seen traps in heat the thing that people haven’t shown is heat rising. I don’t recommend enclosed cases especially for sending situations or overclocking. We’ve had guys reach 77 degrees already with active cooler
@JohnathanNichols
@JohnathanNichols 10 месяцев назад
Take out the clear plastic piece works perfect.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 10 месяцев назад
I’m aware
@srvuk
@srvuk 10 месяцев назад
More evidence of a rushed release. Costly for the customer too. You should provide a kink to the clear open case option.
@successfulrepresentative6400
@successfulrepresentative6400 10 месяцев назад
That makes better sense
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 10 месяцев назад
amzn.to/3TcAb1T
@Tamtudy
@Tamtudy 9 месяцев назад
my case came with plastic screews, but they did not fit inside the holes of rp5. it was official set mind you
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for sharing
@Volker-Dirr
@Volker-Dirr 10 месяцев назад
In my opinion the missing screws are perfect. My smartphone, remote control, ... have also no screws and they never opens by chance, even both accelerate sometimes pretty strong. While my pi never accelerates. So I can't see why screw should be added for the case. Maybe if you are installing the Pi on a ship that is running through a storm in the sea, but i guess those guys know how to fix items on a table. hmm... maybe If you want to attach it up side down under a table, then screws might be in fact nice. On the other hand in that case you probably also fix the cables and fixed cables are already strong enough to hold the Pi. I am using the Pi with the official case only. Also under heavy work load (a few days with 100% on all cores) and that is working fine if you don't add the top-cover. I didn't tested it in the summer with top-cover yet, but currently it is fine. The active cooler looks like a nerd item, like guys that use an "normal!" PC with water cooling, even air cooling can do the same. If you only do "normal" office stuff only (Like writing documents and sheets) you even don't need to cool it at all.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 8 месяцев назад
👍
@jeremiahburton6902
@jeremiahburton6902 7 месяцев назад
I saw another video where they easily popped out the clear section and fan, do it will work with the active cooler. Looks like it was designed that way
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 6 месяцев назад
👍ya but I listed my issues with it in the pinned comment
@CubeDude02
@CubeDude02 8 месяцев назад
It was very obvious from looking at these two that they dont work together. Idk how you didnt figure that out yourself. Yes, bad designed case. But. Do some research of what youre buying and you wont be dissapointed.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 8 месяцев назад
It wasn’t obvious because it’s not mentioned on any site when I got this months ago. These had just came out and there’s no mention of it on any site at the time. Secondly there’s no mention of the active cooler maybe not being efficient alone during over clocking and high end use
@KG4JYS
@KG4JYS 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for the vid. Mine just showed up and I bought both the case with fan and the active cooler. Found this vid because I was wondering what the F.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 8 месяцев назад
Sweet. What projects are you working on
@techexpedition
@techexpedition 7 месяцев назад
Raspberry Pi 5 official Case is just garbage ! Pi 5 Case is just cooking my Pi 5 😖Really poor design & im Really disappointed :( wish I saw your video bit earlier before buying Raspberry Pi 5 official cooler + Case
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 7 месяцев назад
yup. what programs were u running and what temps did u hit
@techexpedition
@techexpedition 7 месяцев назад
@@kiodiekin right now iam using it as ADSB Flight Feeder ✈️ which runs 24 X 7, talking abt temperature it was 70° C and climbing so i decided not to use official cover
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 7 месяцев назад
@@techexpedition that’s what I was trying to warn everyone about at the time I was running heavy, and the PlayStation 2 emulation, which is a very demanding process and basic attempts for even some of the other dads in the community were already getting close to throttle speed and open air not inside a case. So when I bought this case and realized, I cannot use an additional fan alongside the active cooler already knew it would be a problem, considering it would be trapped inside of a case circulating heat with no proper airflow. It just really made it strange for me that they would design something like this for a unit that needs full protection at lunch. This was the only option, and it’s not suitable. I’m sure at the time I was the only one with proper development running applications were as other people were running bench test, which would last between 5 to 20 minutes.
@bgfearness
@bgfearness 4 месяца назад
In my case you can remove the component with the fan, so i can use it with the active cooler. Just remove the original fan and the case should close.
@kapucynator
@kapucynator Месяц назад
exactly... lol
@DM00SE
@DM00SE 8 месяцев назад
I got mine to fit. Just took off the small fan and clear plastic. Looks good.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 8 месяцев назад
👍
@mitchec100
@mitchec100 9 месяцев назад
Err. The clear plastic with the fan pops out so you can put the top on. All that being said. No screws and the top doesn’t click to the base securely. With a bit more thought they could have designed a nice case with a bit more room to allow for a pi hat to fit a nvme drive at no extra cost.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
I’m aware it pops out that wasn’t the full point. Ya they should have thought it out better cause it’s useless for overclocking trapping in heat
@simonhooper2458
@simonhooper2458 9 месяцев назад
For the overclocking you are doing you may be better looking into a peltier cooled heatsink, if using an external power source for the peltier works for you
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
28-53 degrees im fine. but thanks
@Irrespons
@Irrespons 8 месяцев назад
Just pop the clear part with fan away right? Seems like a no brainer.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 8 месяцев назад
Well aware my pinned comment mentions the main issue
@andrewd4906
@andrewd4906 10 месяцев назад
No case use the active cooler. If you use the case no active cooler, use the included fan. Easy. You can unclip the clear tray with the fan on it if you want to use the active cooler in the case, although it's the most expensive option.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 10 месяцев назад
U need an additional fan and something to protect the pi. Temps get high active cooler isn’t enough
@andrewd4906
@andrewd4906 10 месяцев назад
I have a Pi5 in the case just using the fan, I didn't fit the tiny heat sink and it runs quite happy during normal use. I think if you overclock then cooling could become an issue and the active cooler would be the best.@@kiodiekin
@rarara109
@rarara109 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for the video! It was very helpfull!
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 8 месяцев назад
👍
@CaletoFran
@CaletoFran 9 месяцев назад
Why didn’t you pop out the CLIP-ON case fan, it does work. You need to pop the case fan out though. How did you miss that?
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
I didn’t that wasn’t the point of the video as listed in the comments
@nargalda773
@nargalda773 9 месяцев назад
Whole video looks like failed IQ test, or people just dont read fck install guide
@TdogThePog2015
@TdogThePog2015 4 месяца назад
use the turbine case problem solved edit: just remove the fan on the top too if you wanna keep the case
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 4 месяца назад
😎😎👌
@seanriley8523
@seanriley8523 9 месяцев назад
Just got mine this morning and I fully agree with you. Nobody has mentioned that this is the first raspberry pi with an on/off button but with no access to it.
@simonhooper2458
@simonhooper2458 9 месяцев назад
The button can be accessed on the case. The power light is also a button
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 8 месяцев назад
The power button thing has been mentioned before.
@infidelgermany
@infidelgermany 9 дней назад
They were never meant to be used together. Hty go into detail on this, on the official RPi RU-vid cahnnel. The video title is "Designing a bespoke case and cooling for Raspberry Pi 5".
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 8 дней назад
@@infidelgermany ya that was never mentioned at launch
@infidelgermany
@infidelgermany 8 дней назад
@@kiodiekin In any case, I think it's kinda overkill, to have the case fan installen, when you already have the cooler, or viceversa.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 8 дней назад
@@infidelgermany​​⁠it gets really hot when running demanding apps and there’s no air flow def not overkill.
@roysutton577
@roysutton577 7 месяцев назад
I commented to Eben and the engineers that the case falls apart which is handy if you need to press the power button from the inside. They blocked my comments. Clearly modern designers don't know how to put a hole to insert a tool. Great video.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 7 месяцев назад
Wow thanks for sharing
@liilaalee
@liilaalee 8 месяцев назад
Sorry if I missed it on the video, but is it possible to use the larger active cooler and the case if you remove the case's cooler? Also is the plastic where the case's cooler is connected removable? I mean the light/white/a bit seethrough plastic.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 8 месяцев назад
Ya this case just presents too many issues I made an update about it in my newest video
@hipsterisonfire
@hipsterisonfire 8 месяцев назад
Just didn't do enough research. The active cooler works with other cases. But this case is meant to work in lue of. Thats why the active cooler is sold separately.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 8 месяцев назад
Please read below and pinned comment. There’s been enough research
@Btree33
@Btree33 4 месяца назад
My active cooler constantly runs smh. My pi is a brisk 95 degrees though lol but how do I stop it
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 4 месяца назад
95 celsius?
@polar315
@polar315 5 месяцев назад
So I am not going crazy. Got mine today and was thinking how on earth does this fit? Waste of a case. Thanks for the video!
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 5 месяцев назад
👍
@adamharcourt7696
@adamharcourt7696 7 месяцев назад
It’s either/or. Not everyone uses the case so they opt for the active cooler. The case fan easily pushes out anyway and the active cooler is much better at cooling.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 7 месяцев назад
I’m aware of how it works
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 4 месяца назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ruXQ4eYh4dA.htmlsi=xOoB6Fv5DFtgfF0n
@lostinwriting
@lostinwriting 7 месяцев назад
Keep scratchin' 😊 you saved me $10
@formetoknow540
@formetoknow540 4 месяца назад
If so please could u tell me thanks in advance
@ElsiervoDePeFKNerre
@ElsiervoDePeFKNerre 6 месяцев назад
Saludos camarada, llegue a este video pues iba a comprar ambos pensando que se podían usar juntos y al buscar en las siete tiendas que raspberry pi foundation muestra en su página oficial como los vendedores autorizados en Estados Unidos pues sólo en uno de ellos me percate que al añadir su bundle pues si escogía el case no te dejaba añadir el activate coler y eso me creo suspicacias y vine a RU-vid a buscar y por eso estoy aquí viendo tú video el cual admiro mucho a los que crean contenido y hacen estos reviews que si de mayor conocimiento que esos canales que las compañías les envían los productos entonces su reviews no son imparciales y no soy de suscribirme a canales pero con este video y los detalles que nos brindo pues si me suscribo. Saludos desde Puerto Rico.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 6 месяцев назад
gracias por ver mi video y suscribirte. Agradezco que mires. Tuve el mismo problema cuando recibí este caso. es mal publicitado
@simonhooper2458
@simonhooper2458 9 месяцев назад
best option is to use the case fan and buy 2 more cheap heatsinks. The original cooler is designed to be used either open or with any case and can be used with the official case. The original cooler in the official case with its fan removed is slightly more efficient than the case cooler fan and quieter. The case cooler is better if 2 added heatsinks are used. The case cooler also allows the potential to put small heatsinks wherever you want on the board to seperate the heat sinking per part or use one large low profile heatsink to pull the heat. Depending on how you operate the pi, different solutions may be more applicable. For something like astrophotography, where the pi is mounted to the telescope outdoors and where fan vibration can ruin long exposure shots, these options are great. The original cooler inside the case will most likely be the best option.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 8 месяцев назад
Best option is my open air case
@simonhooper2458
@simonhooper2458 8 месяцев назад
@@kiodiekin For your indoor use yes. For outdoor use not so much ;)
@CVRJM
@CVRJM 10 месяцев назад
This short shows you that you can remove the fan on the Pi5 official case. ru-vid.comcurly1UNaSs
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 10 месяцев назад
Removing the additional fan doesn’t keep temps low enough for overclocking and ps2 emulation that’s the whole point of this video
@CVRJM
@CVRJM 10 месяцев назад
@kiodiekin I'm personally more than happy that it improves overall emulation on the systems the Pi is currently capable of, along with better arcade emulation and Sega Saturn performance. With the occasional Wii and Gamecube title thrown in. Even with O/C speeds and the best optimisation available, I can't see PS2 emulation being worthwhile, as you need a pretty beefy PC as it is if you wish to run the likes of GoW 1&2 and GT4 at good speeds. Though it does have a lot of cool, obscure budget titles to enjoy.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 10 месяцев назад
Check My Playlist
@Simcore999
@Simcore999 9 месяцев назад
My guess is It's for the versions Without the heatsink and fan
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
It has one
@Simcore999
@Simcore999 9 месяцев назад
@@kiodiekin They build the cases before new models come out
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
@@Simcore999 what do u mean
@Simcore999
@Simcore999 9 месяцев назад
@@kiodiekin I think it's made for the pi4 or if you remove stock heatsink and fan
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
@@Simcore999 this is made for the pi5
@kleve2770
@kleve2770 4 месяца назад
Just remove the transparent part where the fan is placed. No worries
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 4 месяца назад
👍
@robertl6711
@robertl6711 Месяц назад
cant you use the GPIO pins for 2nd fan?
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin Месяц назад
It can with an additional fan which I currently use on my open air case. But not with the official case
@Brottuss
@Brottuss 8 месяцев назад
if you use the Active cooler, you have to remove the fan module from the case.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 8 месяцев назад
I’m aware that wasn’t the point of the video
@floodo1
@floodo1 9 месяцев назад
just take the clear plastic AND the top off
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 3 месяца назад
Read pinned post
@paulwyand6204
@paulwyand6204 7 месяцев назад
The clear section pops out and the case will close over it.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 6 месяцев назад
Well aware it’s still a bad design
@TheOriginalMacOS
@TheOriginalMacOS 9 месяцев назад
you can snap the fan part of the case off to make room for the active cooler as shown in this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-J9cqMyxV_m8.html
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 7 месяцев назад
Well aware as mentioned in pinned post
@orfeous
@orfeous Месяц назад
You are not supposed to used the heatsink with the official case. You put a smaller heatsink on the SOC. With the Waveshare POE HAT G it works great with official case as it were designed.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin Месяц назад
If u read the pinned comment it’s not suitable for demanding applications and can cause throttle
@orfeous
@orfeous Месяц назад
@kiodiekin if you also watch some videos with temperature stress tests you can see that that the temps are quite the same with and without the active heatsink. :) so.. no issues there :)
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin Месяц назад
@@orfeous um ok lol
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin Месяц назад
@@orfeousyour joking I’m sure
@orfeous
@orfeous Месяц назад
@kiodiekin no I'm not, youtube do not allow me linking the video url here I'm referring to
@ruthmcveigh8903
@ruthmcveigh8903 5 месяцев назад
you can pop the clear part of the case out you know? i did it and i have the active cooler in the case
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 5 месяцев назад
well aware read pinned comment
@ruthmcveigh8903
@ruthmcveigh8903 5 месяцев назад
@@kiodiekinoh right
@rampagescar8203
@rampagescar8203 8 месяцев назад
U can remove the transparent window.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 8 месяцев назад
Well aware
@rampagescar8203
@rampagescar8203 8 месяцев назад
@@kiodiekin just wanted to make sure, I was also was trying to find better way to get things done so i stumbled across your video
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 8 месяцев назад
@@rampagescar8203 no prob
@formetoknow540
@formetoknow540 4 месяца назад
Has anyone here found a case that goes in conjunction with the active cooler
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 3 месяца назад
the new argon cases have 1 built in
@formetoknow540
@formetoknow540 3 месяца назад
@kiodiekin ohh alright thanks so much
@formetoknow540
@formetoknow540 3 месяца назад
@kiodiekin Argon NEO 5 NVMe Case yes I've ordered on as the cooling is better then the official active cooler 😎
@srdcro
@srdcro 9 месяцев назад
Just remove the fan with that clear plastic on the case.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
Not that simple
@srdcro
@srdcro Месяц назад
@@kiodiekin Why not?
@DivisionStreetDrums
@DivisionStreetDrums 4 месяца назад
The clear piece pops out.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 4 месяца назад
Well aware
@HermesFibonacci
@HermesFibonacci 13 дней назад
I thought the same but i got this case, the Hailo AI Kit and Berry Pi5 and it all fits in the case, with this fan and heat sink.. So it does fit, and you are wrong. Actually if you use a tweezer or knife point there is a lip on the inenr transparent plastic outer shell on the inner side. You can remove the fan and you can also remove the lid of the case, and remove the fan. and then it fits.. Derrrrr...
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 10 дней назад
It’s not suitable if u follow my channel and read my pinned comment
@bwuepper439
@bwuepper439 8 месяцев назад
I had a different issue with the official Pi case. When the Pi5 was seated in the case and I plugged in the official power supply I received a message indicating there was insufficient power being received to power all of the ??? devices. When the official power supply was plugged into the Pi5 when not in the case, this message didn't occur. I wondered if the official case needed a slightly larger hole for the power plug. Just FYI.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 8 месяцев назад
Weird but that shouldn’t cause an issue
@markmngoma8977
@markmngoma8977 9 месяцев назад
I just made this mistake man
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
What mistake?
@moe3060
@moe3060 5 месяцев назад
look like a rpi 4 case,
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 5 месяцев назад
👍
@marcoguzman2111
@marcoguzman2111 5 месяцев назад
its only 10 dollars
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 5 месяцев назад
👍
@Lost.911
@Lost.911 9 месяцев назад
Hey, you are supposed to remove the fan from the case, for it to be able to be used with the active cooler. I am still waiting for my raspberry pi 5, but you can look in LivingLinux's video from a month ago, where he removes the fan from the case to use the active cooler.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
I’m aware of that. But I need an additional fan to keep it cool and nowhere was it mentioned that u can’t use it with the active cooler.
@leodsouza5272
@leodsouza5272 6 месяцев назад
The case design is a flaw
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 3 месяца назад
yup
@Gunham20
@Gunham20 9 месяцев назад
Uh the active heatsink/fan is for if you don't have a fan. You obviously wouldn't want two fans right inline with each other. No one is talking about this because its assumed knowledge
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
And yet I have the coolest temps for the pi5 at 28 degrees while overclock and running the most demanding apps . U can’t have assumed knowledge when full development hasn’t taken course and higher app running consuming power hasn’t even been ran or tested. I’ve done those tests and I’m speaking from an informed position. So no it isn’t obvious
@SonuKumar-fn1gn
@SonuKumar-fn1gn 2 месяца назад
Very good video.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 2 месяца назад
Thanks for the visit
@SonuKumar-fn1gn
@SonuKumar-fn1gn 2 месяца назад
@@kiodiekin welcome 🤗❤️
@joshlaw2273
@joshlaw2273 8 месяцев назад
that part with the fan on the official case can pop out so you can remove the fan, and pop the rest of the case on it. it is not that hard...and t he active cooler does a better job than that one heatsink and fan combo. there are many options, but not everybody buys the active cooler, and the case coming with a heatsink and fan is good because than they have a cooling solution better than no cooling solution...
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 8 месяцев назад
I’m aware of how the case works that’s not the point of this review you should read the Pinned comment
@1x2ai
@1x2ai 9 месяцев назад
You don't need all 'three' (two actually) and is common sense. The active cooler with heat-sync already has a fan and you can either remove the cooler from the case or use another case :))
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
That wasn’t missed
@1x2ai
@1x2ai 9 месяцев назад
@@kiodiekin I have the same case with the active cooler and works flawlessly removing the case cooler cap. The case alone with the cooler is too weak for high loads the CPU heats but still working fine just that a little more hot. There is a video somewhere here around RU-vid with a benchmark with what we have and also the heat-sink case.
@gabtar54
@gabtar54 9 месяцев назад
30 seconds to see the problem, 10 seconds to pop the clear insert with the fan out. Problem solved.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
2 seconds for me to know I didn’t watch the video with the issue being I’m trying to protect the pi and keep it cool as possible because the fan is needed with the active cooler.
@JamesKehoeDO
@JamesKehoeDO 9 месяцев назад
Also the Pi5 with the cooler attached doesn't fit in the case. The plastic push pins protrude too far through the board for it to sit in the case right. If it sat in the case right you could remove the clear part of the midsection but it sits to high and case will not close.
@sml2238
@sml2238 9 месяцев назад
it does fit in the case, you need to push the back part with the SD card under the little plastic clip/ridge and then seat the I/O ports, and then it will seat pretty firmly in place with no obstructions. i have 2 and they fit perfect.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 7 месяцев назад
Well aware as mentioned in pinned post
@michaelcloutier2225
@michaelcloutier2225 9 месяцев назад
To answer you the case has a fan and HEAT SINK so if you don't get the active cooler you have better cooling(very good of them except for the only one HS. It actually need 3 more not just 2. The USB chip also get hot) and if you did a little due dilagance you would know that for those with the active cooler, you can completely remove the translucent fan holder insert. This was A VERY WELL THOUGHT OUT CASE. There are and will be many better but at release this is a very flexible case for the two primary use cases. See this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vYUF1H-_7TQ.html I'm waiting for the official PCI hat and a case that is designed for that like that GEEEK PI case but whit 2 fans on top.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
Thanks for checking it out. If you did some due diligence and read the comments I know exactly how the case is designed to work. The problem is the pie five gets really hot even with the active cooler. You need a second fan, and lastly, keeping it inside the case, rises very fast, especially for demanding applications.
@jbc8220
@jbc8220 8 месяцев назад
I ordered the same set.😢😢
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 8 месяцев назад
what happened
@jbc8220
@jbc8220 8 месяцев назад
@@kiodiekin I removed the fan and the cover that comes with the case.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 8 месяцев назад
@@jbc8220 ya I’m aware of that but it won’t fix the overall heat issue as heat gets trapped in it. U need a second fan In addition to the active cooler. U can possibly still reach throttle temps
@PlXELPUNK
@PlXELPUNK 8 месяцев назад
Take the entire, cloudy clear piece out along with the fan in it. Voila! Enjoy.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 8 месяцев назад
lol read below and pinned comment
@curtishorn1267
@curtishorn1267 9 месяцев назад
You can use the case, just pop out the fan assembly from the case.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
I’m aware of that but it doesn’t fit the bill for running demanding apps and generating heat in a small enclosure
@JanBajanaPersonal
@JanBajanaPersonal 6 месяцев назад
If you look closer on Raspbery Case you can easily remove the transparent part of the case together with the fan. In that case the Active Cooler nicely fits in.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 6 месяцев назад
If you read the pinned comment that wasn’t the point of this video
@JanBajanaPersonal
@JanBajanaPersonal 6 месяцев назад
@@kiodiekin Comments are to the video. But it does not matter. Those parts are two optional parts. Depends on your computation load the active cooler is not required to buy.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 6 месяцев назад
@@JanBajanaPersonal they are both needed, especially if you are running demanding applications most of the videos prior to mine we’re not used under these proper circumstances doing a five minute bench test yields no results. I’ve tested this from anywhere 2 to 8 hours under demanding situations in the temperature to just continue to rise. If you read some of the other comments, they’ll notice people eventually ran it to some of the same issuesalso at no point in time when I bought this was an advertise that you cannot use both
@thomasburns6666
@thomasburns6666 9 месяцев назад
The fan and the clear plastic part is REMOVEABLE.....
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
Please read the other comments and watch the full video
@mikefiatx19
@mikefiatx19 9 месяцев назад
Remove the fan that was free with the case. Takes 2 seconds. Get over it.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 9 месяцев назад
Watch the video and pay attention
@RetroGamer_George
@RetroGamer_George 7 месяцев назад
Its not rocket science, the fan supplied with the case clips off.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 7 месяцев назад
It’s not rocket science to read a pinned comment
@garethharris5110
@garethharris5110 10 месяцев назад
Are you thick remove fan from case
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 10 месяцев назад
The point is to use the fan with the case because it doesn’t keep it cool enough. Especially enclosed
@robertl6711
@robertl6711 Месяц назад
Bro it seems like your assuming a lot.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin Месяц назад
In what way?
@TimNorman-y7l
@TimNorman-y7l 7 месяцев назад
You are not supposed to use both.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 7 месяцев назад
Ya found that out after I purchased it
@caleb7475
@caleb7475 10 месяцев назад
You take the clear part out and don't use the case fan. It's one or the other.
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 10 месяцев назад
I’m aware of that. But this pi needs the fan and active cooler to keep it cool and have decent temps
@Coyotehello
@Coyotehello 8 месяцев назад
Dude you are hilarious. You should just know what you are buying. Make sure you do not put diesel in your petrol car and go blame the car manufacturer. Well no. That is a bit dumb. If you use a passive cooler on the chip you can use the case fan. If you decide to have an active cooler you do not also use a case cooler. It is very clear. So that rant of yours is at best "illogical''. You just do not understand the difference between active cooling and a passive cooler with a case fan. Your best solution is to understand what you have instead of thrashing what you do not understand. LOL
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 8 месяцев назад
😂 you should prob read my pinned comment before trying to clown someone
@KaliL-x7h
@KaliL-x7h Месяц назад
NO its NOT very clear they do NOT mention on either product page this will NOT work together, even mention the opposite?! SO WTH?! SKU: 1749017 Original Raspberry Pi Product. Temperature-Controlled Fan, Delivers up to 1.4CFM of Air Flow. Comes With Aluminium Heat Sink !!!!!!Compatible With the Official Raspberry Pi 5 Case!!!!!! You will ONLY know AFTER You BUY it, its BAD design!? Also WHY NO screws provided?! 🤬 I'm "sorry" BUT ANY Fan is ACTIVE Cooling! FYR 😜 Any cooling system that uses fans is considered active cooling. Here’s a detailed comparison between active and passive cooling: Active Cooling Components: Uses fans, pumps, or other mechanical devices to move air or liquid. Efficiency: Generally more effective at dissipating heat quickly. Noise: Can be noisy due to the moving parts (fans, pumps). Power Consumption: Requires power to operate the fans or pumps. Applications: Commonly used in high-performance computers, gaming consoles, and other electronics that generate a lot of heat. Passive Cooling Components: Relies on heat sinks, thermal pads, and natural convection without moving parts. Efficiency: Less effective than active cooling for high heat loads but sufficient for low to moderate heat dissipation. Noise: Completely silent as there are no moving parts. Power Consumption: No power required, making it energy-efficient. Applications: Used in devices with lower heat output, such as some laptops, tablets, and smartphones.
@MrRHeath86
@MrRHeath86 10 месяцев назад
This video is pointless. The design of the case is fine. Its allows you to remove the fan and have the active cooler. Or, you can not have the active cooler, have the case fan and your own heatsinks etc. All this is clearly explained in the literature or websites selling the Pi5 and its accessories. Having watched a good few of your videos, its quite clear that you have an agenda with RPi, and are consistently negative about their products without sound reasoning.
@adamstone2003
@adamstone2003 10 месяцев назад
😂 Kio is a dev of the product and is honest about his reviews. Your problem is is your use to paid people getting crsp for free and always remaining positive. For a man you claim is negative he sure releases a lot of stuff that adds to there bottom dollar and retro gaming. What have you ever provided? I’m sure many other consumers are having the same issue. You must be apart of the get along go along gang.
@DavidHernandez-cj8kl
@DavidHernandez-cj8kl 10 месяцев назад
I’m honestly thankful for it. You aware Kio is one of the guys who brings retro gaming to the pi right. With effort as his community would be months behind any development. Him and supreme had retro gaming working 8 months before anyone else. Maybe your just not use to transparency. Or are you a vendor who doesn’t like the simplicity of well thought out arguments. @mrheath how can an active cooler protect my pi??? Silly I have to ask this question since that’s not the purpose of it.
@nana-te5bp
@nana-te5bp 10 месяцев назад
Anyone who complains about a person who spends there hard earned money to support and grow the community is a self righteous individual. Butt hurt about a product review that makes sense. I guess your calling the rest of of idiots as well for making the same honest mistake that wasn’t advertised at stores or other websites
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 10 месяцев назад
Everything here isn’t gonna be too your liking. I know how to read and haven’t seen this issue listed before buying. If a company is making mistakes it should be discussed. Your sound reasoning doesn’t make any sense👋 you feel it’s pointless because you’re close minded and short sided and don’t have anyone else in mind other than yourself. If it has been mentioned by others take this advice. Maybe it really is an issue and should be corrected and not swept under the carpet or whatever else is comfortable for your ears
@successfulrepresentative6400
@successfulrepresentative6400 10 месяцев назад
@mrheath86 Someone whose never contributing anything chiming in. Your thought process needs examination
@International_Criminal_Court
@International_Criminal_Court 2 дня назад
What are you doing man?!
@kiodiekin
@kiodiekin 2 дня назад
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