The Real Brexit Debate 

How thoughtful of pro-remain Channel 4 to fill the audience with remainers.

Why not have a referendum to ask the people if they want another referendum?

My goodness. A second referendum with choice of 'Remain as member' or 'Remain as hostage in the backstop'. Are they nuts??

they should do a debate without an audience because then the viewers can judge their arguments on substance rather than on the number if claps they get

Need an actual EU-critical leftist in this debate - the only missing position on this programme as far as I can see.

This aged well 😂

Thanks for this amazing service you provided for people who follow the debate from abroad, I really appreciated it. Greetings from Italy

Nice one C4. Very good debate format in comparison to the normal drivel we get. This format is much more confrontational and gets into the nitty gritty details of each position.

IMHO, Jacob Rees-Mogg is the only person who came out of this debate not looking like a total fool.

The biggest problem with most of the MP's, they do not know how the EU operate and what their rules say with regard to any country leaving. The EU cannot negotiate with a member country while still in the EU. Therefore we the UK have to be outside the EU before they will negotiate with the UK. The only way we can have meaningful negotiations with the EU is to leave on WTO conditions or at least indicate we are prepared to do so on the 29th March 2019. All the nonsense spoken by Barry Gardener re -poverty and homelessness etc has nothing to do with the UK leaving the EU as they are all internal issues to the UK. The only way for the Labour manifesto to get any traction we have to leave on WTO terms. Caroline Lucas advocated that the vast majority of young voters were for remain -- various studies have shown that when asked most young voters were indoctrinated by their College/ Uni. lecturers in EU propaganda and actively discouraged from finding out about the leave campaign.

Have the referendum question in essay form and then have parliament debate each and every entry. Seems the most sensible thing to do under the circumstances.

James Cleverley saying "Backstop" so often reminds me of SNL's Darrell Hammond as Al Gore saying "Lock box."

She wants a people's vote that doesn't involve leaving

Talk about scripted. Only watched the first 4 audience members and its obvious theyre answers are scripted.

"The real brexit debate" Uhhh it's not a debate when eveyone in the audience is pro remain.

£7bn (after the rebate) is peanuts for what the UK got out of the EU. Largest case of self-harm known to the UK in recent history.

Hahahahahaha. So it's basically 3 against 1. Mogg is the only MP that actually wants BREXIT.

According to caroline lucas we should have another vote on the 1975 referendum first as i was to young at the time.

The People's vote are basically arguing no one read the terms and conditions. No we read what was on ballot sheet. DO YOU WANT TO LEAVE OR REMAIN IN THE EUROPEAN UNION. A majority said we want to leave.

1 MP from the Green Party in Parliament and yet she's allowed to bring her own audience with her..

No deal no problem

Jacob has once again proven he is PM material. If only his party had the spine to back him.

“On Tuesday night, a special 2 hour edition will cover the Brexit vote” Ha

Hi, Jacob Rees-Mogg is a superbrain, he paid his own way to Oxford University, he started standing up for himself aged 12, he's very happily married with 6 little children . He worked very hard to be able to afford to fund himself in politics to give back to people in the nation of Great Britain. He's our inspiration in our West Yorkshire family home. We love him! !!

Rees Mogg conducts himself perfectly in this debate. Waits his turn without interrupting, listens to the others, makes his point clearly without stuttering or histrionics. A real leader. He has the best understanding of the only Brexit possible, which is to exit the common market.

Caroline Lucas says BREXIT IS a project for the right, by the right. Does she even know what the EU is?

Caroline's referendum question: Would you like to remain or remain in European Union? A: Remain B: Remain

Well, this is outdated now... especially considering the whole “ON TUESDAY” at the beginning

Lucas we voted out. Peoples vote is lets rerun until we vote to stay. And what the heck do the greens care for trade and economics.

Well Done Caroline. The only person there who actually makes any sense at all.

I was actually impressed with this setup, c4 really managed to balance the screen time. I do think that the audience was a bit distracting, but other than that, a surprisingly productive discussion.

The only person who is being honest here is Rees Mogg

Cadbury moved factory to Poland 2011 with EU grant. Ford Transit moved to Turkey 2013 with EU grant. Jaguar Land Rover has recently agreed to build a new plant in Slovakia with EU grant, owned by Tata, the same company who have trashed our steel works and emptied the workers pension funds. Peugeot closed its Ryton (was Rootes Group) plant and moved production to Slovakia with EU grant. British Army's new Ajax fighting vehicles to be built in SPAIN using SWEDISH steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in Spain with EU grant, rather than Wales. Dyson gone to Malaysia, with an EU loan. Crown Closures, Bournemouth (Was METAL BOX), gone to Poland with EU grant, once employed 1,200. M&S manufacturing gone to far east with EU loan. Hornby models gone. In fact all toys and models now gone from UK along with the patents all with with EU grants. Gillette gone to eastern Europe with EU grant. Texas Instruments Greenock gone to Germany with EU grant. Indesit at Bodelwyddan Wales gone with EU grant. Sekisui Alveo said production at its Merthyr Tydfil Industrial Park foam plant will relocate production to Roermond in the Netherlands, with EU funding. Hoover Merthyr factory moved out of UK to Czech Republic and the Far East by Italian company Candy with EU backing. ICI integration into Holland’s AkzoNobel with EU bank loan and within days of the merger, several factories in the UK, were closed, eliminating 3,500 jobs Boots sold to Italians Stefano Pessina who have based their HQ in Switzerland to avoid tax to the tune of £80 million a year, using an EU loan for the purchase. JDS Uniphase run by two Dutch men, bought up companies in the UK with £20 million in EU 'regeneration' grants, created a pollution nightmare and just closed it all down leaving 1,200 out of work and an environmental clean-up paid for by the UK tax-payer. They also raided the pension fund and drained it dry. UK airports are owned by a Spanish company. Scottish Power is owned by a Spanish company. Most London buses are run by Spanish and German companies. The Hinkley Point C nuclear power station to be built by French company EDF, part owned by the French government, using cheap Chinese steel that has catastrophically failed in other nuclear installations. Now EDF say the costs will be double or more and it will be very late even if it does come online. Swindon was once our producer of rail locomotives and rolling stock. Not any more, it's Bombardier in Derby and due to their losses in the aviation market, that could see the end of the British railways manufacturing altogether even though Bombardier had EU grants to keep Derby going which they diverted to their loss-making aviation side in Canada. 39% of British invention patents have been passed to foreign companies, many of them in the EU The Mini cars that Cameron stood in front of as an example of British engineering, are built by BMW mostly in Holland and Austria. His campaign bus was made in Germany even though we have Plaxton, Optare, Bluebird, Dennis etc., in the UK. The bicycle for the Greens was made in the far east, not by Raleigh UK but then they are probably going to move to the Netherlands too as they have said recently. Anyone who thinks the EU is good for British industry or any other business simply hasn't paid attention to what has been systematically asset-stripped from the UK. Name me one major technology company still running in the UK, I used to contract out to many, then the work just dried up as they were sold off to companies from France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, etc., and now we don't even teach electronic technology for technicians any more, due to EU regulations. I haven't detailed our non-existent fishing industry the EU paid to destroy, nor the farmers being paid NOT to produce food they could sell for more than they get paid to do nothing, don't even go there. I haven't mentioned what it costs us to be asset-stripped like this, nor have I mentioned immigration, nor the risk to our security if control of our armed forces is passed to Brussels or Germany. Find something that's gone the other way, I've looked and I just can't. If you think the EU is a good idea, 1/ You haven't read the party manifesto of The European Peoples' Party. 2/ You haven't had to deal with EU petty bureaucracy tearing your business down. 3/ You don't think it matters. OUT OF EUROPE we need to be out of it

Well that’s cleared everything up!!

I don't know much about Brexit or what is going on, but whether you stand with this James Cleverly guy or not, he wasn't treated very respectfully.

This is my second time watching this, absolutely rich entertainment.

I’m a European citizen and I am against a 2nd referendum and here’s why: We need people who are in it with their hearts in terms of this European project, especially in a world where we face threats from Russia, China and even the US. Don’t just stay because somehow now it’s just much more convenient. I wish the British people the best of luck for the future and although we’re not family anymore I hope we can still remain good friends!

who even cares what the green party has to say

The people voted for the UK to 'leave' the EU and the Oxford Dictionary definition of 'leave' is to "depart from permanently".

"Now, if you're tweeting during this debate" oh dear god...

We were given a choice, leave or remain, simple, public voted TO LEAVE, we must leave now.

Seems Mogg was the only one who knew facts .

Excellent debating and format.

The decision was taken in 2016. We were told it would be followed through. So, what's changed?

Well after watching this i want out on a WTO Brexit even more now!!!

Kylie Minogue!!! That came out of nowhere!!!

How do you have a debate between people who all want the same thing??

"Before we hear from the politicians, let's hear from the audience" ...could we not?

I thought 2 years ago I wanted to leave. but 2 years later having heard all the argument and debate...… we need to leave now. vote leave however many times we have to

I voted remain in 2016 but if there was another referendum I would 100% vote leave. I can't believe the attitude of politicians in westminster. We had a vote, the majority voted to leave, so let's respect the result and get on with it. We're a democracy. If all politicians just got behind Brexit, no matter what party or view, the process of leaving would be a lot smoother and a whole lot less complicated.

If they leave and in a few years decide that they want to rejoin the EU what's stopping that from happening?

I think we should have a revote for anyone who is asking for a revote... why? Because we didn't know what we were voting for until they got into office.

once again the only person making actual sense is Jacob Rees-Mogg

.... and about Gibraltar ..... ?

Is it acceptable to implement a massive constitutional change with a "mandate" from an advisory vote from nearly 3 years ago, the details of which were entirely unknown to the public at the time?

I'm only 8 minutes in but I'm guessing the results are as follows: 1.) Jacob Rees-Mogg 2.) Barry Gardener 3.) James Cleverly 4.) Caroline Lucas

Mogg is a boss.

Jacob Rees-Mogg for PM.......

I think it would be wrong in principle that we should have another vote that would include a remain option. However, I think it would be a player able idea to have another vote that would ask the question of what type of Brexit the people want.

Hey BBC ..Why arent you broadcasting the robin tilbrook case ???????????

I think people need to read this comment made by Tom Hulme. Cadbury moved factory to Poland 2011 with EU grant. Ford Transit moved to Turkey 2013 with EU grant. Jaguar Land Rover has recently agreed to build a new plant in Slovakia with EU grant, owned by Tata, the same company who have trashed our steel works and emptied the workers pension funds. Peugeot closed its Ryton (was Rootes Group) plant and moved production to Slovakia with EU grant. British Army's new Ajax fighting vehicles to be built in SPAIN using SWEDISH steel at the request of the EU to support jobs in Spain with EU grant, rather than Wales. Dyson gone to Malaysia, with an EU loan. Crown Closures, Bournemouth (Was METAL BOX), gone to Poland with EU grant, once employed 1,200. M&S manufacturing gone to far east with EU loan. Hornby models gone. In fact all toys and models now gone from UK along with the patents all with with EU grants. Gillette gone to eastern Europe with EU grant. Texas Instruments Greenock gone to Germany with EU grant. Indesit at Bodelwyddan Wales gone with EU grant. Sekisui Alveo said production at its Merthyr Tydfil Industrial Park foam plant will relocate production to Roermond in the Netherlands, with EU funding. Hoover Merthyr factory moved out of UK to Czech Republic and the Far East by Italian company Candy with EU backing. ICI integration into Holland’s AkzoNobel with EU bank loan and within days of the merger, several factories in the UK, were closed, eliminating 3,500 jobs Boots sold to Italians Stefano Pessina who have based their HQ in Switzerland to avoid tax to the tune of £80 million a year, using an EU loan for the purchase. JDS Uniphase run by two Dutch men, bought up companies in the UK with £20 million in EU 'regeneration' grants, created a pollution nightmare and just closed it all down leaving 1,200 out of work and an environmental clean-up paid for by the UK tax-payer. They also raided the pension fund and drained it dry. UK airports are owned by a Spanish company. Scottish Power is owned by a Spanish company. Most London buses are run by Spanish and German companies. The Hinkley Point C nuclear power station to be built by French company EDF, part owned by the French government, using cheap Chinese steel that has catastrophically failed in other nuclear installations. Now EDF say the costs will be double or more and it will be very late even if it does come online. Swindon was once our producer of rail locomotives and rolling stock. Not any more, it's Bombardier in Derby and due to their losses in the aviation market, that could see the end of the British railways manufacturing altogether even though Bombardier had EU grants to keep Derby going which they diverted to their loss-making aviation side in Canada. 39% of British invention patents have been passed to foreign companies, many of them in the EU The Mini cars that Cameron stood in front of as an example of British engineering, are built by BMW mostly in Holland and Austria. His campaign bus was made in Germany even though we have Plaxton, Optare, Bluebird, Dennis etc., in the UK. The bicycle for the Greens was made in the far east, not by Raleigh UK but then they are probably going to move to the Netherlands too as they have said recently. Anyone who thinks the EU is good for British industry or any other business simply hasn't paid attention to what has been systematically asset-stripped from the UK. Name me one major technology company still running in the UK, I used to contract out to many, then the work just dried up as they were sold off to companies from France, Germany, Holland, Belgium, etc., and now we don't even teach electronic technology for technicians any more, due to EU regulations. I haven't detailed our non-existent fishing industry the EU paid to destroy, nor the farmers being paid NOT to produce food they could sell for more than they get paid to do nothing, don't even go there. I haven't mentioned what it costs us to be asset-stripped like this, nor have I mentioned immigration, nor the risk to our security if control of our armed forces is passed to Brussels or Germany. Find something that's gone the other way, I've looked and I just can't. If you think the EU is a good idea, 1/ You haven't read the party manifesto of The European Peoples' Party. 2/ You haven't had to deal with EU petty bureaucracy tearing your business down. 3/ You don't think it matters. OUT OF EUROPE we need to be out of it.

I agree on Universal Credit it's nightmare waiting to happen but Caroline Lucas is living in dreamland

Odd don't you think that COMMENTS ARE DISABLED on BBC.

Still clueless the British politicians. You have been giving a very generous opportunity to stop the madness. Stay in the EU and work with us. Greetings from Denmark.

Caroline seems to have a very strange vision where young peoples votes count more than older persons. How peculiar that she claims to be a democrat, but is the least democratic on the stage.

Well, the Tories lost that one, and the Greens want a referendum without a no-deal option, which defeats the purpose of a democratic vote. Between Labour and Mogg, I'd have to say Mogg puts the best case.

how to guarantee or understand the economy of UK return to be good level after brexit ?

Any further referendum has to be done in two stages : in the first stage , all 3 options must be offered , no deal / Mays deal / no brexit , the second stage is a run off between the two most popular first round choices .

I've changed my mind from remain to leave.

If Tories failed to negotiate a batter deal, Labour would fail too because each one of them is weaker than the other.

Brexit means Brexit.

what's the name of that woman from the greens?

Caroline why would the UK vote out and then vote for a vote???? 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

Caroline Lucas keeps talking about the young people. Tell me how is the EU helping the youth of Greece, Spain, Italy, France? All have high youth unemployment.

I am really worried: will we still be able to buy BOVRIL??

"I'm not advocating rat hairs, by the way " --quote of the night goes to Jacob Rees Mogg!

Way to stack that audience with remainers typical channel 4 🤦🏻‍♂️

CLEAN Brexit, please! May’s deal is tainted by capitulation. We cannot Remain after the EU has treated us so disgracefully. The best workable Brexit is the clean approach, or a renegotiated Canada+++. Norway is bad. May’s deal is bad. No Deal is better. Rees-Mogg’s vision is better still.

Isn't it funny that when he asked the first 4 in the crowd they were all of the different opinion.

I'm gonna come out and say that a glaring reason people don't want a second ref is because people who were locked out of the vote (17 year olds) can now vote and most leavers are now... not able to vote...

We voted for Brexit. It must be delivered.

C4 mmmm A nice hand picked crowd i see, you end with the Losers Vote panellist and those audience opinions at the end, how weak & that stooge that had the final word, i actually laughed out loud.. The Stage was complete!... so obvious you should be ashamed of yourselves. Well if anyone didn't know the Channel4 position, we do now!

Outrageous there are no subtitles channel4 - pull your socks up!! Sort it out. Now. Please

This is not a debate, it's a performance.

Getting Mogg on was probably the best thing C4 has ever done. He stands alone. A giant amongst mere men.

well rehearsed audience would never have guest didn't know channel four done such good comedy.

No representation from Scotland nor with Westminster’s third largest party. This is a disgrace - I think this just highlights how insignificantly we’re being treated.

Why are there so many green beans in the audience 😂

JRM is the only sensible mp on the show who knows what he's talking about.

Tories are finish but Labour is still dreaming of unicorns, sleepy leadership. Poor old Barry just give up and go back to sleep and leave the grown ups to deal with Brexit. Is there any person awake in Labour who can lead this party?

wow this has not gone down too well has it

I hope I can watch debate that only one debater speaks at a time.

Ah its no big deal, this brexit thing will be done easily. Remainers maybe exaggerating ?? Mmmm 6 years later 😄😄

Jacob is the only who speaks the truth

If peopledidnt know what tbey voted for the first time how are we supposed to understand the new " peoples vote"

As an outsider, I found Barry from Labour more interesting. But I can't tell if his new deal project is plausible.

I give 2 years after Brexit for Scotland to become an independent nation....

Let the country be 4% poorer, at least we can have a country a voice and a democracy. Plz dont pis* me off

Shall we have a referendum whether to hold another referendum?

24:00 how will Great Britain be a better/stronger negotiator than the EU? How can a single player be stronger than a team?.