The Real Commodus Was Even Crazier Than His 'Gladiator' Character 

Absolutely agree!!

Quintus to Maximus: I am a soldier. I obey. Maximus: Nothing happens to anyone that he is not fitted by nature to bear. A line that changed the history. And so much for Maximus being a simple mind.

Another proof that Maximus wasn't such a bloke was his last reply to Proximus, when Proximus declined to join the plot with the argumentation that he has nothing to gain from it. Maximus, before leaving turned and said: "He killed Marcus Aurelius." Few scenes later, we see Proximus drawing the wooden freedom-sword with Marcus Aurelius name engraved on it.

Absolutely hilarious. I laugh my ass off every time.

What is the 3 best lines then brother? Let us whisper…

Brilliant!

The real Commodus wouldn't have been a believable character.

@@tomcollins5112 Even comic book Joker would think this guy is way to insane.

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@@tomcollins5112 it honestly reads like a bible verse. His life reads like one of those verses about wicked men throwing themselves into wicked things. Dude wasn’t “insane”, he knew what he was doing, he was a sociopathic narcissist with a god complex. Psychologists and preachers both would have a field day picking his mind apart.

Nothing about that movie was accurate, they didn't even depict how the Romans dressed at the time. It's basically historical fiction.

I love his acting.

Every time I hear the name Caligula, young Malcolm McDowell's face springs to my mind.

It amazes me that movie pundits still laud Clockwork Orange, but immediately disavow Caligula as a 'legit' movie. Together they were the quintessential McDowell movies filled with dystopian insanity, sex & violence, but one was produced by the owner of Penthouse magazine, therefore regarded as illegitimate. It had Peter O'Toole, ffs. Yet Warhol gets a pass for Blue Movie. Pedigree and connections still rule the cinema world, not merits.

Being compared to Caligula usually means you're messed up on levels that have levels within levels.

And yet people believe in the bible... Messed up world isn't it.

@@Me-qp8vz seen you around this channel's other videos, you're a rude know it all wannabe so pipe down

Some movie critics would probably go as far to claim that these stories are poorly written, LOL.

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Me 2... Do you know the bible is a collection of books written by different people at different times? You seem to just constantly want to shit it on every comment and I'm curious if you actually know what it is from any type academic perspective.

Some of these folks must include things that never happened to appear woke. It's irritating.

@@olliefoxx7165you're sad

what is the name of the opera that plays at 2:37

@@gindyelgindy6786 no clue

@@gindyelgindy6786 it's Dies Irae. It's not from an opera, it's just a really old song about the end of the world. There's a couple different versions of it but the one by Verdi is my personal favorite

Yeah. So terrible father like that... and you turn out to be shiit

Also being a product of incest 😂 southerns kn this personally they tried to create the “perfect” man lol created a bunch of meth heads and school shooters

Free men could also sell themselves into slavery to pay of debts

You're describing a minority so small it is to the arena what non binary people are to the planet.

Um as a 10 yr gladiator in my former life this is incorrect

@@dcint6692 😆

@@dcint6692 😂😂😂

Amen to that! Good morning!

Indeed!💯

I watch it during my morning shower 😂

@@stonezone9689 that’s a weird wank

@@sueperb2452 what can I say he’s got a great voice

I'm English second language. Thank you for the word "serendipitous". I learned something new today.

You got a mountain for a face.

@@LOTW1 well, you’re doing an amazing job at English! I know people who’ve spoken it all their lives and they can’t speak or write it for shit.

The gods have such profound humor.

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It kinda ruins your day, yeah.

it was said in a sarcastic tone though

@@1ranjeeves21 I know, I was saying it as a joke as well

They really didn't take his feelings into consideration.

Fair. Lol

Narcissus might have been the "Joe" of ancient Rome

That myth doesn’t mean the same thing in Italy. My grandfather also had that name and it means more ‘appreciator of beauty’ in Europe

Stoicism is great for people but not for sons. Cold father is not fun

@@jjosa52 You clearly have no idea of what Stoicism is about. 😐

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@@JustMe-ob3nw You sure?

@@kylermatsuura7647 Didn't he put his wife to death because she thought he died and tried to make a new Emperor? Morality aside, that's going to mess up your kid.

Well that's because gladiator was almost entirely based on fiction...like every movie based on fact

Was gladiator marketed as non fiction?

Actually Nero is a victim of Christian historical fallacy he wasnt bad but Caligula and Commodus were bad

I didn't see anything cold and calculating about his character. Just way more powerful than his subjects and infinitely more than the protagonists. He was an impulsive, hedonistic and insecure. Only thing they got right. But he was far more involved and capable in all the worse ways lol

Nero treated Xtians like any other law breaker but Xtians spun it into a story of persecution.

Sucks that there is literally no literature on her anywhere

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A female was in the Praetorian guard? That does not sound right.

@@gindyelgindy6786 Don't think it's an opera but probably part of a film score.It's very similar to the 1930's choral work by the German composer Carl Orff -called "Oh Fortuna' from Carmina Burana-a very popular piece that has been used in many advertisements though most people would know the name of it.Orff lived during the Nazi regime.

@@kaloarepo288 Yes I thought it resembled Orff's work a little bit. And yes he lived during the Nazi regime like Karajan, who is my favorite conductor.

The Golden Gate bridge is like the ship of Theseus in that it's had it's parts replaced so often it's practically a new bridge every few hundred years.

Yeah by Apollo

Pheonix was in good shape when he played that role. They made him cowardly more than wimpy, I’d say

In the movie Commodus was portrayed as a very fit fighter capable even of taking on gladiators (though he had Maximus nobbled, just to be sure). He was a wimp only in the psychological sense.

I mean he was athletic but I don't see how that makes him any less of a wimp. I've only ever heard of him fighting people who can't fight back, and animals that are either not dangerous or have been declawed.

Phoenix's Commodus was a thinly-veiled coward, but not a wimp.

Why?

@@laurat188 BC/AD is the correct way.

based

😅

Cannibal is likely an exaggeration..and Professors at Cambridge suggest people have also exaggerated somewhat about Nero and Caligula.

@@r0ky_M how can that be an exaggeration either he was a cannibal or he wasn’t

What?

Well there’s another thing. It was common for young boys to be raped by older men in that culture. Causing horrible psychological damage. And their condiments were cooked in lead pots. Leading to lead poisoning, one aspect of which is extreme anger.

I would think that's the curious draw they have. I bet there's a thousand kings that were boring and nobody even thinks about them at all. Viva La Extracrazy

Roman elites also love drank wine in lead glass. Explain why so many emperors just so erratic and insane. The only sane emperor was Augustus and he did not like drink wine like any other. He just drink spring water collected by his servants in wooden bucket.

Binge-worthy in no word, it's a marketing tool. -Peter Griffin

On Netflix- "Roman Empire"

Indeed he did...😏

Yeh 300 boys in an orgy sounds lit

Bad parenting are bad people

He wasn't a horrible father, in his writing you can see he has a lot of love for his children, such as always remember that they may die any day (most of his children died in childhood) when kissing them goodnight, and how important it is to teach with a gentle yet firm hand. Also he had his hands full with wars and plague and spent a lot of time abroad, he probably didn't have much time left to spend father-son quality time with him. Commodus just ended up being a very unfortunate mix of being a spoilt prince, paranoia due to his position as emperor, and a natural born idiot

I know hard to believe !! But women and children were chattel !!

@@huldrrrr9486 You make some fair points, there. I overreacted.

I think he was just Stern Because he wanted his son to be a good ruler.

Woof, that's crazy as hell!

Actually,Commodus did little to instigate Rome's fall.What he did do though,is instigate what was known as the Third Century Crisis - a period of massive political,economic and military instability. Bear in mind Commodus died in 193AD,the western empire dissolved in 476AD.You can see where I'm coming from...

@@richardscanlan3167 tru tru I fully agree tons of other factors that caused the fall of Rome

@@calcaleb7041 for sure. Barbarian migrations,plague,civil wars. Rome was a colossus - one single factor couldn't destroy it,but put together....

Actually many emperors were psychos not surprised it fell quite fast

The tops of the two towers are so far apart they are 2 inches far apart from the bottom because the Earth is round

Isn’t it similar to how the Nazis worship Jesus Christ yet, their hearts are filled hatred and cruelty towards their enemies, not to mention their philosophy that encourages them to enjoy war? Or how about the Americans who loved characters such as Superman and Captain America-who are characters that are not only patriotic but, stands for truth, justice, and freedom yet, how many times had the american government violated those things against weaker nations?

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@@gindyelgindy6786 I couldn't say for sure, sorry.

Yeah i mean Hercules did some pretty fucked up shit too...

@@Praskful A good point, but he did penance for it, unlike Commodus.

I don’t think I could compare the two and say which one is worse.

They all murdered, but if your successful at it you are remembered fondly.

Also it depends on the reason, if you are doing it it gain power or for Rome it's looked different then for entertainment. Like having another Son of Caeser, hurts not only Augusta but fractures the Empire.

@@mrhumble2937 There are no, GOOD heroes, in history. For example: Robert Baden Powell, founder of the BOY SCOUTS....and others. Persons' creating medicines/inventions of communication/Henry Ford/ etc all hi-modern tech stuff, electricity/ and founders/inventors......wood and forestry experts. Natural food persons'/doctors, etc. THE ONLY FAMOUS ones, are the ones which KILLED ALOT OF OTHER PEOPLE.......'' father knows best '' old tv program, is not accepted in todays' perverted /gender lost, generation. YOU are either MALE,..or FEMALE......any combination of medical doctoring procedures, cannot remove the xx and the xy chromosomes, in the DNA.....

sack wtf does that matter? If someone feels like they are either male or female then they have every right to be called what they want. If they want to be genderless then they can do that too.

@@AutonomousUltraInstinct69 You failed to mention Commodus killed people to maintain power.

It's just a specialized paranoia, and it's not paranoia if they're really out to get you.

@@shannonkohl68 Sometime you have it bouth ways - you are maybe paranoid + they are really aut to geth you. They are really there four times in the week to spay on you - but you see them every day - lol

Yet it's almost entirely fictitious

@Dan Stop lying we all heard you were crying at the end of bambi

@@SnoopyDoofie who gives a shit

What part of Gladiator made you cry?

True - I have watched that movie so many times that I know the dialogues as the characters speak their lines…I love it..

That would be so interesting

All monsters have a support system, those who benefit from evil will continue the cycle; we see it every day now... economy over humanity

# victim blaming.🙂 Seriously though, the citizens are helpless to who ends up ruling them. Especially in a monarchy or Empire. I would say the people who help the ruler rise to power or "advise" are to blame. However, I've seen in my own free democracy how people with power will quickly fire anyone who doesn't agree with them.

@@JustKrista50 It is offensive to acuse me of victim blaming. So the people that enforce the will of a dictator are victims? I don’t think so. It was Hitler who killed so many? As far as I know he was only a man… it was many other people that did his bidding. If one chooses to do evil to others because it is the safest thing to do it is not being a victim but a coward… Or because some beliefs again it doesn’t make you a victim. The victims are the ones that get killed at the hands of those people.

@@JustKrista50 Moreover…. Aren’t the enforcers of the king or emperor people? And most probably were mere citizens with families prior to do that. So not victims at all.

@@frgv4060 Well, you clearly didn't see that I was JOKING with the hash tag. Even though I conveyed that with an emoji. To take your first question: people in high ranks don't go unpunished. The soldiers, following orders, do. It's niave to think people should die in order to disobey their superiors. In that way, all the citizens are victims, not only the ones who perish. Again, I witnessed my own president hire then fire advisors who didn't agree with him. In a country where not following the person in charge means death, people fall in line. Even then, dictators kill advisors for suspecting they don't agree. It then becomes a matter of survival to "prove" your loyalty. You seriously can not underestimate the power of hate and fear. They are riled up to hate all people who don't follow their ideas and fear being called disloyal.

Love the book. My favorite part is The end.

Octavian became the first true Roman Emperor as Augustus.

Not too weird, I’d akin it kids born to extreme wealth or child stars . A lot of the times they grow up being very dysfunctional adults

@CCP Tube na she was a badass

Bet you can Google her statue. It's real important to Brits I think it's by London bridge or ......

That makes perfect sense when you consider that Stalin's hero was Ivan the Terrible, who was a similarly cruel and unhinged tyrant.

That was my question too.

Exactly! Im confused a lil bit

Is it because Irene gouged your friend's eyes out?

Don't look that up on a porn site. You'll probably be scarred for life.

@@danbrownellfuzzy3010 Ha! 😄

@@KingRumar It was a running joke with a work friend named Irene. It gave her a boost of confidence and made her easier to work with...and everyone learned some Roman history. 🤓

@@xunqianbaidu6917 So every emperor had a co emperor?

He wasn't close to the best emperor.That honour would go to Augustus,Rome's first emperor. Then you throw in the likes of Vespasian,Titus,Trajan,Hadrian,Aurelian,Constantine....

Not a coincidence, Westerner