Dear ravi sir, i would like to tell you if you want to go through full military experience of operation blue star please bring "Lt gen kuldeep brar" , the operational commander of bluestar, he will tell you every detail of the operation and will also give you some bone chilling experience of 1971 war , please sir bring him on your podcast thanks you.❤
Naaah Brother… it will be a totally biased perspective, I’ve read his book Operation Blue Star nd it’s totally one sided perspective book… He portrayed himself a Hero , he might be for his platoon but in reality he just fabricated his own story with no truth
@KanwarBaltejSinghGill-gr5ch hid didn't potrayed himself a hero, infact what he was going on an annual leave but that time the army commander lt gen. Krishaswamy sunderji called him and made him the operational commander, if he didn't started the operation in next 1-2 days the punjab would be not in India, it was that any time punjab was declared to a khalistan
@@bkay8254 haa aab interview mai bol rah tha ki indra gandhi ki chaal thi tab kyiu ni bola ki Indra gandgi ne politics k liye kiyaa punjab mai khalistan ki mang hoti to armt itni asani se andr aa jati kyaa 😂 jagh jagh protest hote par aisa kuch nahi tha
Dont try to justify genocide of sikhs. Sant bhindranwale never demanded for khalistan. Blue star was all about genocide did by indian army. And KS brar is the biggest lier.
25.30 Conclusion: Bhindrawala never demanded khalistan..... Bhindrawala ne khalistan nahi manga...... Indra gandhi ne siraf ek election jeetne ke liye blue star kar diya....
Indira Gandhi had her own faults,no sensible person supports her,but it doesn't make JS Bhindrawale totally unaccountable. Aur agar itni hi khuddari thi to uss chor congress ko wapas kaii baar Punjab mein waha ki public kyun laayi?
@@navneetsingh9937 are bhai suni sunai bate mat kro ,pehle to ye study kro sant jarnail singh ji par koi FIR hui hai aur koi case bhi nahi sabit hua kisi hindu ko marne ka jin hinduo ko mara tha vo gorvment ne marvae the singho ke libas me apne bnde set karke taki sant ji ka nam laga sake lekin adalt me bhi proof nahi kar saki gorvment ,rahi bat sgpc ne unhe gurdwara sahib me therne diya ,iska matlab ap koi crime kro aur kisi bhi dharmik sthan me jakar rehne lag jao ,apko police batchit karke bahr lane ke ,apko bahr se hi golian marde aur bich me ane wale innocent logo ko bhi marde ye konsa moorkhta bhra canoon hai ,
Even him didn't tell the full story. KP Brar story is for government. No one wants talk about the real thing happened on the ground which lead this incident. Punjab Police was one of the main culprits. Why they allowed Nirankari to kill 5 peyars X 2 total 10 in his stsung. Why Nirankari torn apart Guru Granth Sahib & told his preachers that he was the real guru. And Indian govt & police put blind eye on every thing. Indira Gandhi was a arrogant lady., she can travel to Kashmir to meet Faruq Abulla but not to Amritsar for Sikh sentiments. Sikhs fought for India Independence more than any other race, but were treated as crap after Independence. Indian Govt. decided to take revenge on Guru Arjan Dev ji's saheddi day. Remember Akal That was made to counter currupt govt. of the time. In past, it was Mugals than British & then Indian corrupt politicians. Sikhs always work for humanity & fight for injustice. BTW Hindu people who got killed in Buses in punjab was killed by govt. personal in the attire of Sikhs. When I was in Kashmir from 1990 to 1997 CATS do the same kind of work. When I was citizen of India I cant tell. Now I am Merican & i don't fear govt. Bhindrawala never wanted to engage any Army personal, because he loved the army, but if army strikes backs as the puppet of Indra Gandhi then death before dishonor. His fight was against the corrupt leaders, police, and bureaucrats. See his BBC video tapes. Indian govt put an information blackout in Punjab. So, no information leaks to international media. Its damm political killing of sikhs.
One day Pakistan will also pay for the things he did in Punjab for his political gain. It was a movement against Nirankari baba, and Indira govt took side of him.
Make one thing very clear, for Sikhs Guru Granth Sahib is supreme. If some attacks on it. Real Sikhs don't care about his life. Sikhs killed Army General, India Gandhi but why not her grandkids, reason is we Sikhs are not criminals. Sikhs punished those who gave the orders, not the foot soldiers. When Ravna took Sita Mata to Lanka, lord Ram didn't kill the people of Sri Lanka.
I live in abroad, never seen someone gave money to talk about Khalistan. People say Khalistan because they want the Indian govt to react. If the Indian govt. is wise they start the talk with Sikhs about genocide. No one wants killing, and no one wants Khalistan, they want the Indian govt to say sorry for destroying our sacred place. But the Indian govt. will not do that because govt. want this issue for votes bank. Everything is about votes.
Bhindrawala just Indira gandhi servant...who try to destroy akali dal party and gyani jail singh help him... akali dal very powerful in Punjab and pakistan also want destroy Punjab because 1965 Sikh and Tamil people beat pakistan army...so Punjab broke win situation by pakistan isi... Christian missionaries also want setup in Punjab slowly..... haryana Punjab rich in food if you capture on him... money to mp seat.. because all leaders during 1976 time Narendra Modi to bajpayee hide in Punjab... haryana jaat gujjar baniya kill by khalistani bhindrawala and rape girls...stop bus... and newspapers owner kill...hindu vs Sikh jatt start...
Ex army head fake corruption case ... otherwise bhindrawala not powerful in gorila war...just kill in 2 hour...so some army officer also responsible for... Indira Gandhi behind fake corruption case..why bhindrawala with gun bomb in temple...where national flag not allowed..
Hello sir! I hope you are doing well Could you please create another with episode with Mr Ramesh sir I would be thankful to you for my entire life if you do so! Love your work! Words cannot be expressed how thankful I am!
Bhai last point id like to make 1. Bhindrawale may have been shaped by sardar kapur Singh born in Pak...Bhindrawale born in pro India Malwa, but his audiences were like influential sardar kapur s. & Hariana was not part of Punjab. It historically was jatland under Gokul haga. Britain put it in Punjab to administer Himachal had Sikh population that went back to Hinduism 1870s could be 28% of Sikh entirety dateline So map Pakistani ISI produce gives false account. + Instead Pak must give back Pak Punjab to manga Sikhs forced to leave there
Gurgaon, hisaar and one more dist was added to punjab by the british after 1857 revolt. Rest of the current haryana’s land was already either part of punjab or part of sikh rulers kingdom.
Sikhs lost their right on pakistani punjab’s land the day we chose to side with india believing on nehru gandhi’s false promises. Jinnah offered sikh more then few rights as well if we decided to go with pakistan but we didn’t. So onus is on india who back stabbed sikhs not pakistan because we never went with them.
Bhai none of this would have occured. Sikhs had 3 big Nanaksari saints last century dressed in white 1920s 30s who pushed number of Sikh farm community up by 1 5-th, It is said around same time other tribes who comprised in sikhism khatri kambo nai chimba went from 92% sikh 8% hindu to 30% sikh 70% hindu migrating further into india. Dalit samaj also somewhat distanced from Sikhism after ambedkar was insulted by head priest at akhal takhat 1927 So by 1984 what you saw unfold was hotbed of majha activity sat on borders. Ordinary sikh were not like that. Delhi sikh Ramgharia community protested to get taksali out of Temple. Akali dal representing South malwa largest num demanded temple be vacated. In my view bhiindrawales deep voice, knowledge of power play, knew how to draw majha crowd He could not have meant break up india as captain Harcharan Rode his own brother was indian army. It does not make sense. I find Sikhs unable to talk about 65 to 70% of their pakistan punjab landloss weird. 50% entirety left that to go india which was densely overcrowded. Creation of pakistan was biggest blunder in history. It could have been avoided. Kalat, kpk Gb should never have merged with west punjab but had that not happen pakistan could not form 50% Sikhs made to leave pak punjab for muslim leagues demand. It is huge thing sikhs lost 356 gurdwaras to pakistan...5 districts.. Hindus lost 42% lahore entirely distributed to pakistan. Congress also made mistake on 1946 round table talks with khidamtgyar pathan abdul ghaffar khan frontier ghandi, he wished to join kpk to india thru jk...no wish to join pakistan Sarjan Sarhali sgpc head at akhal takhat was approached by dr ambedkar 1930 to turn 60 mill dalit to sikhs He declined it.had that happened Entire west punjab would be today sitting with India not pakistan There would been no pakistan because kalat woukd be in baloch, kpk gone india or kabul, GB would be india Muslim leagues 1941 demand for pakistan would been outmanouvred. Dalit sikhs do not sit with 65% farm sikh fraternity. Most likely would have outreached to indian hindu dalits. Other segments of sikh religion today 27% khatri nai kambo ramgharia chimba saini ( urbanised sikhs) would have integrated further among hindu communities with a two way understanding. My personal belief only is congress could have handled it better. Captain amarinder singhs familys presence should hhave added counterweight to ghandis decision making. All they had to do was speak to captain harcharan singh rode to reign his younger brother in away from majha hardliners Isolate them, talk to them help them realise it was pakistan not india who took their land. Its misdirected in wrong place...india & hinduism absorbed blunder of 1947. Pakistan stole titles out of lahori hindus & majha sikhs. Pakistan should not be in existance. It is illegally created through stolen land. Jai Hind.
face it mature leadership is missing. They play roles for their own purposes. They can't have a interstate conference to update the procedures. There has been no discussion on anandpur sahib resolution
Even though real Justice was never done . Both side innocent people died. How long one has to drag this issue ? Accords were signed. When the party ruling that time , the PM of that party has apologized. What is end solutions ?
30:25 भिंडरांवाले टैंक के गोले से नहीं मरे थे, वे तय शुदा समय पर अकाल तख्त से बाहर आकर निशान साहिब के पास मारे गए थे कुल 13 गोलियां लगने बाद , पोस्टमार्टम रिपोर्ट चेक कर सकते है आप।
I think the golden temple operation was a badly planned operation made at the spur of the moment. Whoever finalised the army taking action against bhindrawale was not a cold blooded thinker. Otherwise special forces would have been used or intelligence operatives to surround and infiltrate the golden temple and capture the govt's opponents within the temple. It was an emotionally charged decision making process at delhi. The lack of meticulous planning at army hqs or at western command and the state police headquarters showed in the results obtained. Basically it was a comedy of errors. A series of events happened and were mismanaged. Though everything is in the past, i would say there is something to learn from it for the home ministry and defence forces of india. Since the defence ministry is not a professional organisation its no use including it in the matter. The bluestar operation was carried out with brute force, at the spur of the moment and in a rushed manner. The next operation at the golden temple was better planned and executed
Sanatan and Sikhi is not one under Sikhi everything comes. Get your minds cleared on this. Had it not been for hindu caste society divisions india would never have been a slave. Hindus are not trustworthy same as muslims.
Ravi bhai. There is another angle ti this before khalistan created. Maharaja Ranjit Singhs corporate face was hindu muslim sikh..but In order to achieve militaristic expansion he relied on his hardcore khalsa army remnants of 12 misls reshaped from Tarna Dal Buddah Dal Nihungs India. He also recieved help from kashmiri pundits who looked at future to decide good time & day. His army sealed off western passes of todays Pakistan Punjab & Persia through a set of bunker posts. When Britain took control 1847+..They open border posts to let migrant persians in to baby boom with local shia women. By 1941 muslim league west british india demanded pakistan.in lahore session. Britain hastily agreed pressurised by potential German ww2 looming in a deal muslim league would send soldiers to europe. 1946 jinnah calls daybof action targetting sikhs & hindus. 1947 pakistan created with nearly 70% of ranjit singhs landmass, muslim league activists rioters target sikhs forcing 50% of entire sikh populace with hindus to relocate to india. Leaving behind 356 gurdwaras Both hindus & sikhs owned 42% lahore outright. All gone. Technically legally landmass of ranjit singh ( pakistan punjab) should either have been transfered to Buddah Dal Tarna Dal India who sacrificed from 1700s for it, or given to Captain amarinder singhs dynasty as thats where ranjit singhs 50% bloodline came out of. The baby boomer persians who entered British India had destsbilised setting of India For sikhs stopped nadir shahs forces coming in. Now their sitting closer with reduced landmass It would diplomatically resolve lot of issues if a way could be found to send the west majha sikhs back to west punjab pakistan as rulers. Its a win for them. Its win for india whos resolving a difficult situation it got given by ratcliffe line. Neither indias hindus nor sikhs were treated with respect when the muslim league took land. India unfortunately had to face not only burden of that conflict, but sikhs from there were reeling not knowing how to react. That led to generations of trauma. But thankfully the sikhs who it affected began to change, most are clean shaven jatt sikhs who tactily understood seperate religion into a weekend compartment, weekday study achieve, friday night sing putt jatta de, but never mix all 3. They 65% have a timeline fulfilment which is non polithcal. To nurture ability in their group, singing, business, sports, being best at everything competing, outdoing their ownself..they plan to keep migrating west. A tribe among them ranked number 2 aluwalia, a very dense concentrated dna will go south india to understand sit with hindus subject to racism.. as aluwalia transition from title building to soaking up humility. But for likes of amritpals im afraid thatbis twisted dna on timeline.. they not understanding what happened. Sant bhindrawale was a malwein. His region pro india. He left there to meet majha opposite. It was politics. Not religion.
If Indians are repenting upon blue star why the government killers of India govt are alive running around enjoying life why can’t they punish them up to down why Russian were involved why model was built and army practice before the real temple why is that it was pre planned and congress won the fruits maximum power gained
I would say the whole system of having Rs 60000 crore elections every 5 years led to the politics behind operation bluestar and its aftermath. The notion of democracy as the best system of governance in a superlarge country like india is one of the best examples of stupidity. Firstly we follow a sham democracy in the sense that the electorate in a parliamentary or assembly or city or panchayat constituency does not select its own candidates because of the laziness of the electorate or/and browbeating by political groups. Then there are various matchfixing issues in the electoral process by the middleman conducting the elections from the scrutiny/rejection of the nomination papers to the electioneering to the counting and declaration of votes. Not only the 1st middleman ie the eci but also the 2nd middleman ie the supreme court or high courts don't work impartially in a a timebound manner in case of electoral malpractices or allegations by the vanquished or the citizenry. The cost of having untrained gaggle or mob of people who change partially every few years leads to severe repercussions in the management cost to the nation where even simple mistakes at the minister level have caused gargantuan losses and steadily declining governance. The steadily increasing inflation, increase in politically motivated false cases against opponents, increase in criminals as political representatives, increase in number of ministries and minister equivalents and other malpractices have to be factored in for evaluating the democratic process vis a vis other forms of governance like a monarchy or dictatorship practiced in the west where a coterie of courtiers run the govt thru the backdoor
Sab kuch karti government he hai. Fir dusre religion and dusre desho ko blame karte hai.. Aaj kal log samjhte hai government kaise conspiracy rachti hai