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The Real Life Wilson Fisk 

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Wilson Fisk is one of the most terrifying villains in the Marvel universe. Good thing he's just fictional, right? Wrong!
In this episode of Out of Frame, we explore the real-life Wilson Fisk, a central planner from America's not so distant past.
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@sketchygetchey8299
@sketchygetchey8299 5 лет назад
Fisk vs. Thanos “You should’ve gone for the” (crushes head with giant SUV)
@YoYo-gr9es
@YoYo-gr9es 5 лет назад
*with THANOS CAR
@chrisallen9638
@chrisallen9638 5 лет назад
This made me laugh pretty hard. Thank you.
@littlen8279
@littlen8279 5 лет назад
or with that floating chair
@TiaAileen
@TiaAileen 5 лет назад
The floating chair yes😂😂😂
@mr.vargas5648
@mr.vargas5648 4 года назад
Thanos would win easy. Fisk may be strong but his not that strong.
@angelaphsiao
@angelaphsiao 6 лет назад
Makes you think about how Daredevil, who is blind, can see the beauty in the communities of Hell’s Kitchen better than Fisk.
@lashkaretoiba
@lashkaretoiba 5 лет назад
Angela Hsiao Does that make DareDevil the real life Jane Jacobs? 🤔
@manuelmadrigal3235
@manuelmadrigal3235 5 лет назад
Loki is the best
@TiaAileen
@TiaAileen 5 лет назад
A good guy that does good, and a bad guy that destroys the good? Didnt know thats what theyre supposed to do...
@sbyrstall
@sbyrstall 3 года назад
@Mackenzie Bauroth False, he only sees green.
@AnnaLVajda
@AnnaLVajda 3 года назад
Yeah I always liked he was blind. I really liked Helen Keller as a child too. Peoples other senses can be heightened to compensate. Daredevil feels more because he can't see he has sensitivities to tone of voice and things others don't. Fisk probably thinks of "beauty" as a distraction he seems very focused on the business end of things instead.
@Sewblon
@Sewblon 5 лет назад
You missed another parallel: The source of Wilson Fisk's power is his brain. He is athletic, but otherwise physically normal. He can do what he does because he understands how people think, how their institutions work, and how to use that to get what he wants. Robert Moses had a doctorate in Political Science from the University of Berlin. He used his intimate knowledge of law and governance to get elected officials to empower him without realizing the implications of what they were doing before it was too late. Someone being smart doesn't make them humane. Ask Dr. Mengel.
@willdgol7501
@willdgol7501 5 лет назад
Physically normal? He may not be a superhuman but he can pop a man's head like a zit with his bear hands with little effort
@danagray9709
@danagray9709 5 лет назад
@@willdgol7501 Yeah. Because he works out almost constantly. In the comics, he allows people to think he's fat when in fact he has only 2% body fat. He's built like a tank. Apparently he had a weight problem as a child, and in what would become typical fashion for him, he overcompensated to the extreme.
@dragos8839
@dragos8839 5 лет назад
@@danagray9709 2% bf means that he should literally be only veins and muscle there's no way anyone would think he's fat if he really was 2%bf
@Isaiah_McIntosh
@Isaiah_McIntosh 4 года назад
@@dragos8839 completely wrong bro. 2% bodyfat is dead. 3% is necessary for life in male humans. Search up Andrea's munzer a deceased bodybuilder infamous for his leaness who reached around 4%, he doesn't look like he has skin.
@dragos8839
@dragos8839 4 года назад
@@Isaiah_McIntosh yeah when you reach that level of body fat you'll most likely die. It isn't maintainable by any means
@damianstarks3338
@damianstarks3338 6 лет назад
You can't be the savior and the oppresser at the same time like Madame gao said. Love this video.
@devildavin
@devildavin 5 лет назад
i disagree, the same line i go with is "one mans freedom fighter is another man terrorist" so in this case one person's savior is another's oppressor, so yea, you can be both
@Rocmax417
@Rocmax417 5 лет назад
Damian Starks that reminds me of Wilson fisks’s speech about the Good Samaritan
@damianstarks3338
@damianstarks3338 4 года назад
Rocmax417 o yes that was fucking amazing.
@damianstarks3338
@damianstarks3338 4 года назад
DevilJin ok thanks for telling me this.
@Snsodndjdold
@Snsodndjdold 5 лет назад
"There are people everywhere who believe that any action can be justified in service of their goals."
@sr.mental5876
@sr.mental5876 Год назад
“And because of their weight.” - Wilson “Kingpin” Fisk
@ethpling165
@ethpling165 6 лет назад
But did he crush someone’s head in a car door tho?
@feilvei4498
@feilvei4498 5 лет назад
The real question being asked here folks
@germx8047
@germx8047 5 лет назад
We will never know because elites like him will keep those stuff out of public
@Whateveridksomething
@Whateveridksomething 4 года назад
Well, I'm a guy with a lot of muscle...clearly, what kind of question is that mr ethpling?
@armandoosuna6525
@armandoosuna6525 4 года назад
I don't think Ive. Ever feared a Villain the way I fear Wilson Fisk. His scenes made my heart rate rise. The menacing of his whole persona. And I think the video here is right to say that he is more terrifying or threatening because of how real he seems. Most of the time the villain seems to be there just to let the super hero show off their skills/gifts. But not Fisk. This whole show so underrated. It's too bad I was one of the ignorant ones that doubted the genius of the show/characters. But also is very sad that this show was around when it was difficult to trust super hero genres such as X-men. I was tired of being disappointed.
@12brunni
@12brunni 5 лет назад
I'd say it's more that Daredevil cares about the people of Hell's Kitchen, while Fisk only cares about the place. I mean, neither Fisk nor Moses actually helped anyone as a result, they just created a nicer looking place.
@vyli1
@vyli1 5 лет назад
Moses did help him self ;o)
@losttriad
@losttriad 5 лет назад
Fisk did help keep the triads and the hand at bay
@JudgeFudge57
@JudgeFudge57 5 лет назад
Although everyone is grateful for it today. That's some shitty looking moral conflict here.
@AirLancer
@AirLancer 5 лет назад
@@JudgeFudge57 Define "everyone"
@JudgeFudge57
@JudgeFudge57 5 лет назад
@@AirLancer Locals and tourists that never knew anything else
@joeywheeler8576
@joeywheeler8576 6 лет назад
wilson frisk is way better then loki, he was a perfect villain
@thelittlepasty8360
@thelittlepasty8360 6 лет назад
Than*
@IndranilRC
@IndranilRC 6 лет назад
@Bill The Bull Gates no
@IndranilRC
@IndranilRC 6 лет назад
Compare between Kingpin and The Penguin instead. That makes more sense. Specially Gotham's Penguin. He cares about the city....
@WideMouth
@WideMouth 6 лет назад
Bill The Bull Gates Almost every villain has good intentions. It’s their *means* of attaining their goals that make them villains.
@SunsetBear
@SunsetBear 5 лет назад
under tale
@StarSage66
@StarSage66 6 лет назад
My take away from this is if we have real people like Wilson Fisk we need real people like Daredevil. I'm going to dress up in a colorful full body kevlar suit and fight armed criminals with my hands. Who's with me?
@yourarchnemesis8453
@yourarchnemesis8453 6 лет назад
I'll wear one to your funeral.
@kchishol1970
@kchishol1970 6 лет назад
Yes, when you manage to get enhanced senses, and become Stick's student, let us know.
@postshift19
@postshift19 6 лет назад
You forgot you also have to be a brilliant lawyer.
@louisduarte8763
@louisduarte8763 6 лет назад
Or be bitten by an irradiated bug. What's the worst that can happen?
@Barskor1
@Barskor1 6 лет назад
Just buy a .22 rifle and a scope make a suppressor and get trained on how to shoot in one day you can do more to fight crime than a city's police in a year.
@mattgilbert7347
@mattgilbert7347 5 лет назад
This is almost at the Stalinist level of evil genius. What a Will, though. A corrupted, flawed, morally blind Will . One has to admire the drive to the aesthetic, to the beautiful. But it came at too high a cost.
@scottt6457
@scottt6457 7 лет назад
I agree - Wilson Fisk is the "best" Marvel villain I've ever seen. This video was very interesting - even my kids wanted to watch it, and they mostly like cartoons still. It was a great teachable moment for all of us.
@hellothere4765
@hellothere4765 5 лет назад
The funny thing is Robert Moses is in the MCU canon. I recently saw an episode of Luke Cage and they mentioned him in a book someone was reading.
@dejected107
@dejected107 3 года назад
2 keys to a great antagonist; a good character profile and a display of their Talents and/or intelligence. Like Wilson Fisk, the Joker is a great example of this.
@dmc2925
@dmc2925 7 лет назад
This video was great! I thought this was a movie/show analysis channel. Took awhile to realize it was FEE!
@FEEonline
@FEEonline 6 лет назад
I assume that's a good thing? The way I look at it, the lessons FEE has always tried to impart are all around us if we know what to look for. What better way to explain some of our core values than showcase them when they pop up in culture? -Sean
@AdilMughal
@AdilMughal 5 лет назад
Would you believe me if I tell you that I didn't realized that until I read your comment. Lol 😂 😂 😂
@thenewadventuresofhenry6998
@thenewadventuresofhenry6998 5 лет назад
I'm from New York originally. We have a reputation for putting up controversial strongmen for positions of power. William Tweed, Teddy Roosevelt, Fiorello La Guardia, Robert Moses, Nelson Rockefeller, Mario Cuomo, Rudi Giuliani, Elliot Spitzer, Anthony Weiner, Michael Bloomberg, Andrew Cuomo and Peter King.
@mweissma
@mweissma 5 лет назад
That was really, really well thought out and put together. Thank you.
@shadfurman
@shadfurman 7 лет назад
Fuuuu... This is one of the best anti-collectivist anti-statist videos I've seen. The most convincing arguments are true with a rhetorical flourish. Brilliant.
@FEEonline
@FEEonline 6 лет назад
Thank you!
@Psy_Ro
@Psy_Ro 6 лет назад
Individuals coming together to shape their communities is a collectivist idea. That is the one central tenants of collectivist philosophies. And if Wilson Fisk is doing so in order to gain monetary gain for his private business, then the problem, besides that the state that helps capitalists gain money by hurting people of lower classes, is the capitalist gaining money by hurting people of lower classes. Robert Moses also removed people he accused of being communists from office. Painting him as a progressive is at least dishonest
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 5 лет назад
Rodrigo de Moraes Also, I hope no one comes away from this (albeit well-made) villain video and think Kingpin is good for just this rebuilding scheme. A cursory look unto the Daredevil comics or even the 90's Spider-Man cartoons will show you that Wilson Fisk has his fingers in just about every earthly criminal pie possible. That's probably why Frank Castle is still waiting for a better moment to kill him: killing him right now would disrupt everything.
@Psy_Ro
@Psy_Ro 5 лет назад
@@davidw.2791 true. Kingpin os the comics, just like in the netflix series, is basically involved in all illegal activities. However, contrary to the comics, netflix kingpin seems to be more, human. Someone who really thinks he is a force of good, as he himself tries to point out in the samaritan speech.
@davidw.2791
@davidw.2791 5 лет назад
Rodrigo de Moraes He really is. And season one was his origin story.
@enesballa2217
@enesballa2217 5 лет назад
4:33 translating into a MCU quote : "the hardest choices require the strongest wills"
@rkoh7695
@rkoh7695 5 лет назад
The difference between Fisk's and Daredevil's vision is that... Daredevil doesn't have a vision since he's blind...
@storba3860
@storba3860 6 лет назад
My favorite is Agent Orange. His character may be pretty motiveless but I love how evil he is. It takes an extremely evil character to make me cheer at getting his eyes punched out.
@registerdlj
@registerdlj 7 лет назад
Wow! Great video. Thank you!
@blakemcnamara9105
@blakemcnamara9105 5 лет назад
Robert Moses also contributed to the demolition of Manhattan's, as well as some of Brooklyns elevated train lines. While many at the time believed that elevated trains blighted neighbourhoods, it was in fact their demolition that led to the further concentration of poverty within New York City.
@JoseMorales-lw5nt
@JoseMorales-lw5nt 4 года назад
In an unfortunate and tragic side note regarding the case for eminent domain: the original World Trade Center. For the office complex that eventually housed the Twin Towers to be built, an entire neighborhood was demolished. Once called Radio Row, this neighborhood contained some structures that dated back to the Civil War. Relating to the correlation between Fisk and Moses, another duo could be added to the list of real life villains. In this case, brothers.... David & Nelson Rockefeller. In post-WWII NY, David ran Chase Manhattan Bank, while Nelson Rockefeller would become governor of the state. This combination of financial and political powers was enough to get the Twin Towers built. Yet, like every great facility built in New York, they came at the expense of the poor and many non-whites formerly living there. Truth can be stranger than fiction 🇵🇷🇺🇸😊
@Adr1an511
@Adr1an511 5 лет назад
After 3rd season of Daredevil, i agree Kingpin is an amazing villain
@wurzel9671
@wurzel9671 5 лет назад
he was amazing in season 1 and 2 aswell, what do you mean
@spencergsmith
@spencergsmith 4 года назад
Wurzel he was amazing in season 1, season 2 he only cameod in one or two episodes (but was still great). However, season 3 he was taken to a new level. He was incredible. He became the best villain in all of the MCU at that point.
@MichaelADoesIndeedHaveACat
@MichaelADoesIndeedHaveACat 5 лет назад
Wilson Fisk and Daredevil make a fantastic analogy for the opposition of Communism and Capitalism.
@themk4982
@themk4982 5 лет назад
While I really loved Kilgrave from Jessica Jones I’ve got to agree that Wilson Fisk is the best villain in the MCU, though damn it Kilgrave is a close second. This is a great video, it’s great seeing this show analysed. I love this show but I’ve always found it tricky to describe what I like so much about, this has definitely helped and for that I thank you.
@ShortSight32
@ShortSight32 6 лет назад
My top 5 Personal biased favorite marvel villains 1. Doom 2. Kingpin 3. Juggernaut 4. Crossbones 5. Apocalypse
@damianstarks3338
@damianstarks3338 6 лет назад
Xavier Abello nice choices.
@ComicBookGuy420
@ComicBookGuy420 5 лет назад
Venom substituted for Doom and you got my list
@UkuleleVillain
@UkuleleVillain 5 лет назад
@@AtracBreezy for no one knows what is best for you except your mighty sovereign.
@muserussell2377
@muserussell2377 5 лет назад
Magneto
@willdgol7501
@willdgol7501 5 лет назад
Y Crossbones ? His a high tier henchman
@Seth0067
@Seth0067 5 лет назад
Hi Sean: Caro's biography is one of the best books ever (monumental in size, befitting Moses and Fisk). The greatness of the book is in its way to present a more balanced view of Moses, warts and all. This nuance is of course lost when you compare him to a comic book villain, but Vincent D's Fisk works so well because you can wrap your head around Fisk's humanity and even has you rooting for him in some situations. "In order to make an omelette you need to break a few eggs" is a good counter to the video's takeaways (no, they really shouldn't be broken in car doors). Many governments today are simply unable to do infrastructure work because there are SO many interest groups to consider - the Pacific NW is a good example as the smallest environmental impacts can paralyze an project for years. NIMBY is now the rule rather than the exception and it seems the pendulum has swung too far the other way (but always in the favor of the moneyed parties, that hasn't changed)
@Seth0067
@Seth0067 5 лет назад
Oh, and great video!
@dovidgutwein2731
@dovidgutwein2731 6 лет назад
Wilson Fisk in the Netflix show is my favorite villain of all time!!
@adman1381
@adman1381 6 лет назад
In the comics, Wilson Fisk should win an award based on Robert Moses...
@damianstarks3338
@damianstarks3338 6 лет назад
Adam Langfelder true.
@louisduarte8763
@louisduarte8763 6 лет назад
Last I heard, in the comics, Fisk ran for mayor of NYC, and won. And with Matt Murdoch now working in the DA's office...
@damianstarks3338
@damianstarks3338 6 лет назад
@@louisduarte8763 you are right this has happened in the comics.
@vitdmilk5466
@vitdmilk5466 5 лет назад
Seems the best villains in marvel have the most realistic motives. (Thanos, Fisk, etc.)
@BW-dg4gn
@BW-dg4gn 6 лет назад
Loki was overused
@damianstarks3338
@damianstarks3338 6 лет назад
Ben Wilson yeah but I still like him.
@Mmiiccaahh
@Mmiiccaahh 5 лет назад
your profile picture brings back so many memories, i had it like 6 years ago
@danagray9709
@danagray9709 5 лет назад
Loki was a poorly written, one dimensional character played in mediocre fashion. He was so predictable that it's actually unbelievable that Thor keeps falling for his BS.
@gideonjones5712
@gideonjones5712 5 лет назад
I don't think I would even put him on the list of best MCU villains. Not because I don't like his character, but because the direction of his development made him much less of a villain over time. In his first appearance? Bad guy. In the Avengers? Still bad guy, but actually less of a main antagonist in the grand scheme of things, being Thanos's puppet. In the second Thor movie he becomes less evil and just more chaotic. And by the end of Thor Ragnarok he finally seems like he's redeeming himself from his old edgelord trickster days. I mean he dies in Infinity War trying to save Thor from Thanos. Not something he would have done in the earlier films. Maybe he was overused, but at least all that extra screen time gave him more character development than many other MCU villains get.
@somethinsomethin7243
@somethinsomethin7243 4 года назад
I think that we all have a little bit of Wilson Fisk in us. The word Bureaucracy comes from the French word Bureau which means desk. It literally means government from/by the desk. I think bureaucracy is specifically the necessary Evil the founding fathers were concerned with. Organized yes, capable of great feats possibly, but tyrannical always. I think the incompetence and ineffectiveness of bureaucracy has obfuscated the subtle but very dark and real evil that lies beneath. We see glimpses of this whether it was the failures to fix the levies in New Orleans, the way the Federal government treated Indians, or the way a banking institution collapsed our economy. (Multiple times)
@SaulOhio
@SaulOhio 4 года назад
Fisk's morning ritual of making omelets ties into this ends and means issue. "You can't make an omelet without breaking eggs". Fisk is willing to break eggs. But human lives aren't eggs.
@SpiderandMosquito
@SpiderandMosquito 5 лет назад
1:36-1:57 "Sound like anyone we know?" Me: Judge Doom
@Iron-Soul
@Iron-Soul 5 лет назад
Wow!! That was deep. Thanks for sharing.
@AngusStewart01
@AngusStewart01 6 лет назад
I never knew about that guy thank you man
@TOAOM123
@TOAOM123 5 лет назад
"Whos the best villain in the marvel cinematic universe?" Big Wheel
@goji253
@goji253 5 лет назад
Batroc the Leaper, no contest. The only way he could have been better was if he also had that amazing, not at all stereotypical french villain mustache.
@HBomb157
@HBomb157 4 года назад
The SUV
@Flome810
@Flome810 3 года назад
@@goji253 Lol no
@frankm.2850
@frankm.2850 6 лет назад
They should make a crossover episode where Detective Goren ends up interogating or at least talking to Wilson Fisk for some reason.
@adrianvarela8890
@adrianvarela8890 4 года назад
Excellent!!! nicely done. I learned about Moses.in the process. Thank you
@Agent969
@Agent969 5 лет назад
In my humble opinion, the marvellous portrayal of Wilson Fisk is a big reason why Daredevil is currently my favourite superhero TV show bar none.
@nightbeezer
@nightbeezer 7 лет назад
This is gold, thank you!.
@damianstarks3338
@damianstarks3338 6 лет назад
bluejay couldn't agree more !
@SonicHaXD
@SonicHaXD 5 лет назад
This is even better after watching Daredevil Season 3 XD
@Illuminatic
@Illuminatic 5 лет назад
Completely agree with your opinion
@yorktown2541
@yorktown2541 5 лет назад
Dude this video is fantastic
@thelonerider9693
@thelonerider9693 4 года назад
Imminent domain is one of those powers that I do not think people expected would be abused when created. I think what people forget is that like every other government power it is supposed to be exercised within the framework, context and constraints of the constitution and the bill of rights.
@mosesblack8946
@mosesblack8946 5 лет назад
Well thought out and informative analysis!
@haqon8310
@haqon8310 3 года назад
when he said he was a power broker it made me giddy for the possibility of kingpin to be the power broker in FAWS
@tomcarpenter7821
@tomcarpenter7821 2 года назад
Here in Florida where I live, we have something very similar. The Dixie Mafia doing exactly this shit through a big front company.
@Ozzdo
@Ozzdo 5 лет назад
Excellent video. Great summation of Moses' influence, both great and terrible, to New York.
@kennethfernandez544
@kennethfernandez544 5 лет назад
This was really nice, great job.
@andrewlim9345
@andrewlim9345 4 года назад
Thanks for the history lesson. Might watch Daredevil one day.
@MalachiCo0
@MalachiCo0 Год назад
The stuff where he forced people out of their homes was sad. But ngl, the part that made me hate him was when you said that he was the barbaric swine who destroyed Penn Station. Gosh I'm mad now.
@Tragedyval
@Tragedyval 6 лет назад
kingpin is a great villain, but the true no 1 comic book villain is still joker from the dark knight 2008 though i still love this explanation, i learned a lot from this.. thank you !
@stoned466
@stoned466 6 лет назад
Good video, I really enjoyed this.
@damianstarks3338
@damianstarks3338 6 лет назад
stoned466 me too.
@MalaysianChopsticks
@MalaysianChopsticks 6 лет назад
Am I Wilson Fisk playing City Skylines?
@blackshard641
@blackshard641 5 лет назад
LOL. I literally thought about this game while watching the video when he mentioned skyscraper apartment buildings.
@Shubham94
@Shubham94 6 лет назад
shared it on my facebook page..will try to share via more means...will tell my author to write an article on this in my site too , very nice job
@yodaheabebe3756
@yodaheabebe3756 6 лет назад
Incredible.
@OUTSIDER40
@OUTSIDER40 5 лет назад
Good job 👍
@reesepacker7983
@reesepacker7983 5 лет назад
Fisk seems like he could easily fit in both the Marvel and DC universes
@xaxaxaxaxa6945
@xaxaxaxaxa6945 5 лет назад
My top 10 Personal biased favorite MCU villains 1 Thanos 2 Wilson fisk 3 Loki 4 baron zemo 5 obadiah stane 6 alexander pierce 7 iron man 8 Erik Killmonger 9 hela 10 Jigsaw
@ComicBookGuy420
@ComicBookGuy420 5 лет назад
Unfortunately marvel still hasn't put netflix's vision of daredevil on the big screen, give the people what they want, great video
@richardsmall2855
@richardsmall2855 5 лет назад
According to a Marvel, the top three most popular villains are : #1 - Red Skull #2 - Magneto #3 - Dr. Doom Kingpin is only #8 and Thanos is #6. Dr. Doom is consistently regarded as the most evil villain in all of Marvel purely for his accomplishments, dialogue, and what he's done to members of the Fantastic Four, Avengers, and S.H.I.E.L.D.
@jasonb97
@jasonb97 5 лет назад
Thats why I prefer Marvel Comics over DC comics... Marvel always deals with real world problems and takes place in our world... Always gives you the idea that these adventures might be real... DC has good characters and good stories, but personally I read them as fantasy novels most of the time (Batman has some very good comics and so does Superman when Lex Luthor is the villain)... Btw, very good video, great job!!!
@derekharp2805
@derekharp2805 5 лет назад
Using modern pop culture as tie in to individual liberty and property rights is very smart. Well done..
@frankm.2850
@frankm.2850 6 лет назад
All the best fiction is based in reality. Still, its more than a little freaky knowing that a guy like Fisk actually existed.
@TiaAileen
@TiaAileen 5 лет назад
Wilson Fisk and Daredevil are doing what theyre supposed to do..Theyre representing their characters very welll..theyre doing their job
@josejuancf1799
@josejuancf1799 5 лет назад
The actor is outstanding!
@thealgerian3285
@thealgerian3285 5 лет назад
I think it's a bit worrying how people think they need to go back to the black & white era to find people like Wilson Fisk. As if there weren't people just as bad and corrupted in today's political system.
@reeceytaylor
@reeceytaylor 5 лет назад
3:20 i like the emphasis on kingpin. the show never actually namedropped him (at least not in s1, i haven't watched s3)
@nicolinrucker5181
@nicolinrucker5181 5 лет назад
the means create the ends.
@Philboshaba
@Philboshaba 5 лет назад
Wow... Knowing this completely changes the lens through which I view this villan. I loved him, the only thing I liked in daredevil... It is even as if Marvel is then saying "if only the blacks had a white savior back then..." It feels slimy but also unlikely. I guess taking on the macropolitics of the villain would have made the storyline too big.
@ngocquenguyen1561
@ngocquenguyen1561 6 лет назад
This actually is happening in my country, with rich men being support by power of government forcing people out of their homes with minimal compensation and the people don't have any means to even question them. It goes like this: the government tells people in the neighborhood that they have a reconstruction plan for that area, so it's the people's responsibility to comply. They get a minimal compensation money and being offered a new place with higher price, so they actually get in a big debt while being forced from their original homes. After several years, the "reconstruction" plan turns out to be government lending out that area to some high power corporation with n times higher price than what they compensate the people, and the corporation uses the area to build high end apartment buildings. So the "plan" is meaningless, while people are forced out of their homes, get a new one with with a big out-of-nowhere debt in their lives, government as the middle man takes money from big corporation while compensate people with minimal amount, and corporate transforms the area from low price living area to high price living area.
@Zoetherat
@Zoetherat 5 лет назад
Of course, there are also authoritarians like Lee Kuan Yew who actually did improve people's quality of life. Whether centralized power is good or bad depends very much upon whom the recipient of that power is.
@FEEonline
@FEEonline 5 лет назад
Of course... If you are the beneficiary of power, you will be better off. It's just that 1) there's always a way more people harmed than helped in the long run, and 2) power can always turn against you. As for Lee Kuan Yew, Singapore is an interesting case. Mostly it succeeded by reducing power and the imposition of law against people's activities and becoming one of the most economically free countries on earth. But where power was still concentrated and used - mostly for social control - it was and still to some extent is very abusive. Publicly caning people for litter, for example, isn't a great look for any society.
@Zoetherat
@Zoetherat 5 лет назад
​@@FEEonline Economically, he did create a very business friendly environment in which behaviors he desired were motivated by incentives. However, in order to do that, he needed to have political and social control, and he attained and maintained that control largely thru authoritarian means. Threatened by Communist popularity? Purge them. Threatened by ethnic tensions? Use government intervention to reshape housing and force ethnic housing integration. In this, he's very similar to Fisk and Moses. He too believed that the ends justified the means, and directing where people could live and the layout of his city. However, unlike Moses and Fisk, he's judged positively because his outcome was a positive one.
@NOONE-bs5zh
@NOONE-bs5zh 4 года назад
you are fucked if that person if the person in power happens to believe in Lamarckism and decide to grow crops in Siberia and these kinds of misjudgment happen everywhere since the person in power isn't gonna be chosen for their knowledge of evolution economic etc... and the consequences of these mistakes aren't localized but universal (everyone suffers it) and are kind of inevitable then there is the lack of consequences for these mistake since obviously, Stalin isn't the one who is gonna starve in the case his action happen to cause famine and there are vicious incentives you aren't really incentivized to make better living condition have better service etc... you are incentivized as a person in power to keep the power even to the detriment of other people these somewhat coincide in a democracy (make things better for the one who votes us or lobbies us) but in an authoritative system these things are the farthest apart see NK
@louisduarte8763
@louisduarte8763 6 лет назад
My takeaway is: learn some martial arts, design a cool costume, and take to the streets to whup ass how you see fit. Nothing can possibly go wrong with that.
@loveone789
@loveone789 5 лет назад
oh you meant marvel cinematic universe, rather than the entirety of the marvel universe. Galactus, Thanos, Dr Doom, Green Goblin, Dr Octopus, Magneto, and the Red Skull are pretty great villians
@heroic-manrhoden2650
@heroic-manrhoden2650 3 месяца назад
If Kingpin AKA Wilson Fisk was a real person, I will fight that big man 😤
@marcusanark2541
@marcusanark2541 3 года назад
Kingpin and Bushmaster are the best!
@ScarrVett
@ScarrVett 5 лет назад
So that's why the beach is called Robert Moses
@teriyakigringo
@teriyakigringo 5 лет назад
Anybody else see the irony in his name? Dudes last name is Moses and caused an exodus of the poor and weak from their homes.
@budgetpcbenchmarking4823
@budgetpcbenchmarking4823 5 лет назад
Great video.
@basedbattledroid3507
@basedbattledroid3507 5 лет назад
Real Daredevil would have to be my manger from the Seeing Eye Dogs offices. Minus the suit and equipment, double times the cool heightening of non-visual senses.
@olebrian7019
@olebrian7019 5 лет назад
I'm so glad Vincent got to show his true worth in the role of Fisk. Up until Daredevil, I just knew him as the fat guy who shot himself in the head in FMJ.
@tsabatrobbani7456
@tsabatrobbani7456 5 лет назад
Please do Punisher!
@ThatVenomousCat
@ThatVenomousCat 5 лет назад
Yep, from what i have heard. He made the Dodgers move to Los Angeles, where in the process of building the stadium they kicked an entire community of poor people out of their homes.
@Veela666
@Veela666 5 лет назад
*who's the best villain in the MCU?* That would be Framework Fitz.
@ezekielwootton3403
@ezekielwootton3403 5 лет назад
Thank God we have men like Robert Moses.
@SirLurkington
@SirLurkington 4 года назад
So basically, the ends don’t define the means. You said Fisk and Daredevil want the same ends. But have different means. Couple that with the general notion that encroaching on individual rights and liberties is bad, the right means becomes crystal clear.
@benedictkiswanto4692
@benedictkiswanto4692 2 года назад
Hulk is not a villain. Because his true self, Bruce Banner, is actually a good man
@stoned466
@stoned466 6 лет назад
I liked your video a very good history lesson.
@raul88.88
@raul88.88 5 лет назад
He's a PONTIFEX !
@erictbrown1
@erictbrown1 6 лет назад
I agree and great video
@thelittlepasty8360
@thelittlepasty8360 5 лет назад
Wilson Fisk and Thanos are the GOATs
@joemadden4160
@joemadden4160 5 лет назад
I've made a video on the evil man Moses on a computer made in a factory in China using corvee labor(pittance slavery) where they have suicide netting so the rest of you can watch this video on a cell phone made using rare earth metals dredged from the oceans, causing devastating damage to the environment. But Moses was a super villain.
@elliotness11
@elliotness11 5 лет назад
Subscribed
@horrorknight3096
@horrorknight3096 6 лет назад
Kilgrave?
@damianstarks3338
@damianstarks3338 6 лет назад
Horror Knight another awesome m.c.u villain along with cottonmouth from the first season of luke cage.
@sernoddicusthegallant6986
@sernoddicusthegallant6986 6 лет назад
cottonmouth was an interesting character but he posed absolutely no threat to luke which really took from his effect from the show
@GigaChadh976
@GigaChadh976 6 лет назад
Nope.
@Veela666
@Veela666 5 лет назад
On retrospect kilgrave isn't that great of a villain. He's a winny little ten year old that never grew up.
@sernoddicusthegallant6986
@sernoddicusthegallant6986 5 лет назад
@@Veela666 that was sorta the point of his character, he was a manchild because his powers meant he never needed to grow up so he didnt but regardless i think we can all agree that he was still a more interesting villain than the ninja dude from iron fist S1 (i dont even remember his name)
@zlovebae6679
@zlovebae6679 5 лет назад
There is only two different thing in this world. Those who like to grow faster by force and others who still live in fantasy world. In the process of Wilson Fisk changing his world, Daredevil took credit by playing vigilante. Wilson Fisk is the reality and Daredevil is fantasy world.
@sharondastarr9692
@sharondastarr9692 3 года назад
Fisk is not the other one only villain of the Marvel cinematic universe there’s other villains from the Marvel universe like green goblin in the punisher whatever it is for people to join us one at Vons of the marvel to it of the season of how to University
@malcolml309
@malcolml309 5 лет назад
Actually, the Dodgers, we're already in Los Angeles by the time Shea Stadium was built.
@bosswerdos
@bosswerdos 5 лет назад
His voice sounds cool
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